[FRIAM] Desktop GIS: Mapping the Planet with Open Source Tools

2008-10-27 Thread Owen Densmore

GIS being a hot topic, I thought I'd pass this along:

This just shipped:
  Desktop GIS: Mapping the Planet with Open Source Tools
http://tinyurl.com/6kuzy2
  Book website: http://desktopgisbook.com/
  Author's blog: http://spatialgalaxy.net/

.. which is a good companion to last years:
  GIS for Web Developers: Adding 'Where' to Your Web Applications
http://tinyurl.com/6q3vvc
  Book website: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/sdgis/gis-for-web-developers
  Author's website: http://www.davisworld.org/

-- Owen




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Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread Phil Henshaw
Glen,
>From a whole systems view 'peak oil' is part of 'peak everything'.   'Peak
everything' is also synonymous with 'diminishing returns', or 'natural
complications' or 'limits of development'.  I think with the present
collapse there is now more time to worry about global warming, sort of, and
certainly less money.   Thinking about whether growing as fast as we
possibly can until we run into something to stop us means running into what
will stop us as hard as we possibly can, may be more important.

The phenomenon of natural limits is really about how our economic system as
a whole can substitute nearly anything for nearly anything, and so...
equalizes the resource pressures on everything.  That's a very telling
principle when you learn how to apply it.   That's why the increasing
difficulty of finding new core resources; food, fuel, water, space of every
kind, is happening simultaneously.   

The problem with limits is *never* (well 'almost' never) the quantity.  It's
really the complications and the resulting increases in unit costs, their
declining material ROI's.   You can always find more resources for more
effort, but there is a price level where there is no profit in it.  You can
cross that unexpectedly, say due to unexpected new complications, and
trigger market flight.   

If you look at the commodities curve, for example, you see we first had a
20% per year increase in raw material costs for food and energy, for the
past 6 years, and now have a collapse.   You could ask why the physical
system didn't respond to create supply to lower the price.  There was some
'sticking point' and then the speculators jumped in because the needed
increasing supplies were not materializing.   Maybe the whole system reached
the point where the physical complications reduced the total physical return
on investment too far.   
http://www.synapse9.com/issues/92-08Commodities2-sm.pdf or .jpg

That idea is not proved by the graph, just suggested.  What is provable is
that persistent declining ROI's (like how much water the effort to get water
uses) as we now see for all resources will eventually cross the whole system
profitability thresholds.  Whether people see them coming or can explain it
is not the first question.   You just 'half answer' it at first, asking
whether the kind of effect we should see fits the general picture of what we
are seeing.

Phil Henshaw  


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of glen e. p. ropella
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:36 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come
> 
> Thus spake Jochen Fromm circa 10/26/2008 07:25 AM:
> > http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/the-true-crisis-is-still-to-come/
> 
> I'm currently reading "The Deep Hot Biosphere" and Gold presents a
> pretty persuasive argument that the hydrocarbons (oil, methane, coal,
> ...) we burn for energy are not (mostly) fossil fuels.  I'm still too
> ignorant to have my own opinion on whether the hydrocarbons are
> [a]biogenic.
> 
> But I wonder how you guys think abiogenic origins of hydrocarbons would
> affect "peak oil"?  On the one hand, if oil is percolating up from deep
> sources, although still finite, the estimates of the total amount of
> oil
> we can exploit would rise significantly.  (And much of the peak oil
> problem would be solvable through new technologies for getting at the
> oil.)  But on the other hand, our burn rate, being exponential, will
> eventually outpace production rates, despite advances in extraction
> technology.
> 
> Does that mean that the peak oil argument is essentially unchanged
> regardless of whether the hydrocarbons are primordial or biogenic?
> 
> (I know it's reductionist of me... I'll say a few Hail Marys in penance
> ... but I'd like to separate the peak oil issue from the global climate
> change issue and focus solely on peak oil and the origins of oil... for
> now, anyway.)
> 
> --
> glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Grappa Wireless Internet

2008-10-27 Thread Don Begley



On Oct 26, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

Robert Holmes wrote:


Charming people but their internet service sucks. My connection  
from them is currently running at about 300K instead of the 1.5M  
I'm paying for ($70 per month).
I'm on a similar Motorola 600Mhz System run by the San Ildefonso  
corporation Tewacom.com and have a similar experience (paying $60/ 
month).   My service varies from 0-1.5M with ~.3M typical.   I get  
almost total dropouts for minutes at a time.  They continue to  
insist that my service is symmetric but it is rare that I get more  
than 50% of download on upload.   I use: http://speakeasy.net/speedtest/ 
 most of the time.


If there is something inherently limited in these systems, I'd like  
to understand it.   I don't like pestering people trying to do  
their job (TewaCom or Grappa) but I also like getting consistent,  
expected performance.




Out in La Canada Wireless land, we are blessed with a core of  
volunteers who keep the wireless system running. You get DSL to 12MPBS  
performance depending on the calls on the pipe at a given time.  
However, I've never seen anything above 3MBPS and suffer pauses if not  
dropouts upon occasion.


As best I can tell, radio systems suffer two inherent drawbacks:  
first, they are shared pipes so performance degrades with use. Second,  
they share their channels with other radio-based systems including  
your neighbor's home wireless network. That seems to create packet  
drops and degrade performance significantly.


Thus, in LCWA's network the line-of-sight to my radio server crosses a  
heavily congested area with a number of units on the same channel as  
LCWA and I get lots of packet drops. Other users who don't have the  
interference don't have the drops and enjoy blazingly fast speeds.


The problem can even sabotage the network. I have friends on LCWA in  
the Madrid area. A while back there was an unidentified radio source  
in their area that brought their connection down after a few minutes.  
It went away when LCWA moved its signal. (This is from memory so don't  
quote me on the particulars but it's pointed in the general direction.)


Bottom line: LCWA's volunteers get plenty of exercise figuring out  
where the interference is coming from. That assumes the member has the  
right equipment and it's properly configured in the first place.


-d-


Also because of the location of their radio towers (Santa Fe ski  
basin) their service gets even worse during the winter. Last winter  
they ended up giving everyone a rebate on one month's fee, though  
personally I'd have rather have the up-time than the cash.
I'm one mile from the TewaCom Xmitter and I get little if any  
weather-related problems, but do seem to find dropouts and I seem to  
need to reboot the 600Mhz modem somewhere between several times over  
a few days to only once in a month.


As soon as my contact expires, I'm transfering to Qwest, who have  
just started offering DSL in my neighbourhood.


I switched from 1.5M (nominally down) Satellite WildBlue (56k up)  
which was *never* down but averaged .5M down and .05 up with lots of  
lag. WildBlue also had monthly quotas (not sliding) which did not  
support iTunes-class downloads on a regular basis.


Previously I was on dialup which I rarely got higher than 28K  
connection with effective speeds of maybe 50% of that.


I think Wireless on this scale makes most sense only when there are  
no other choices.  If DSL or Cable come available, I think they are  
a better answer.




Robert

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:10 PM, peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://grappawireless.com/about.html

Anyone in the group have any experience or comments on these guys

( : ( : pete
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[FRIAM] Topic: My other computers're at Amazon - 11:30, Oct 29, 624 Agua Fria

2008-10-27 Thread Stephen Guerin
A nice talk by Roger on Wednesday:

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Topic: My other computers're at Amazon - 11:30, Oct 29, 624 Agua Fria
conference room.

A short presentation on how to get an AWS account, pick an image,
start an instance, configure it, run it, recover the results, and take
it down again.

If someone could bring a headless NetLogo behavior lab project, then
we could run it as an example.

We're going to stick to the basics.

Discussion continuing at El Tesoro over lunch.

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[FRIAM] Fwd: sfx This Week: Whiskey & Water, Fritos & Music

2008-10-27 Thread Don Begley
Paul, Kim & Rich have been very patient as we've rescheduled this  
event a couple of times. It's going to be worth the wait, so please  
come Wednesday night.


-d-

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Subject: sfx This Week: Whiskey & Water, Fritos & Music
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This week @ sfX:

Wednesday, October 29 @ 6:00pm
Whiskey's for Drinking

Friday, October 31 @ 7:00pm
Max Music Joins Frito Friday

All programs at Santa Fe Complex · 632 Agua Fria · Parking via Romero  
St. For more information, call 505/216.7562 or visit sfcomplex.org

Support sfX

Help achieve our vision of a community studio by donating,  
volunteering or joining sfX. Click the PayPal link below to make a  
financial contribution to sfX. Click here to learn more about joining  
or volunteering.



Keep current on events and projects at Santa Fe Complex:

Whiskey's
for Drinking (Finally)
Wednesday, October 29 6:00 pm

After delays for presidential debates and visiting lecturers,  
sfComplex practitioners Kim Sorvig and Paul Paryski are joined by  
RiverSource's Rich Schrader for the second Santa Fe Complex blender on  
water issues.


Sorvig and Paryski will present a broad analytic perspective of New  
Mexico's limited water resources and how they are managed--or,  
perhaps, mismanaged. Schrader will explore online portfolios for  
citizen-stewards to tell stories of place, health, and restoration of  
ecological function and form. Click here for more information.


Max Music
Joins Frito Friday
Friday, October 31, 6:00 pm
Frito Friday steps into electronic experimentation with music, coding  
and fun. Food is provided, donations are appreciated. It's a great way  
to unwind from the week at our weekly casual get together.


SFMax Users Group Begins
Interactive music finds a home at Santa Fe Complex with SFMax: a Max/ 
MSP users group for experts, novices and anyone who is curious about  
merging traditional and contemporary music. Beginning this Friday,  
October 31 all things MAX will be discussed including: MIDI control,  
audio processing, video processing (Jitter), interactivity (sensors  
and device control), Max resources on-line, third party externals and  
applications (performance, video, installations, etc.).


The group will meet every other Friday. Each meeting will feature a  
presentation by a group member or invited guest followed by Q&A and  
open discussion. Mark it on your calendar; contact Philip Mantione for  
more information. Wikipedia has this summary of the Max environment;  
to learn more about Max, visit the website of Cycling74, the company  
behind the software.




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Are you working on a project that fits the complex? Would you like to  
volunteer to help us with our events or publicity? If so, call us at  
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Come Visit Us

Santa Fe Complex is located in the Railyard Art District within  
walking distance of the hotels, restaurants and shops at the plaza  
downtown. We're housed in two facilities, the project space at 624  
Agua Fria and the work space at 632 Agua Fria.


The conference area contains meeting rooms and facilities for short- 
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access, working facilities, a coffee lounge and work carrels for  
laptop users.


While there is parking at 624 Agua Fria, the Romero Street parking lot  
is more conveniently located for the 632 facility. Romero St. is an  
old-style Santa Fe ox-cart road just east of the 624 driveway. Follow  
it until it opens up to two lanes and turn hard right into the parking  
lot for 632.


Here's a map to our location, a representative shot showing the  
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Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread Eric Smith
Hi Glen,

Regarding the Thomas Gold book, I have been urged not to take it
seriously by geologists I trust.  I also do not have the expertise to
enable an informed opinion of my own.  They seem to suggest, however,
that Gold purposely ignores (a lot of) evidence that works in favor of
the conventional (post-colonization of land by plants origin) view
rather than his own.  His thesis apparently was given a hearing in the
community for a while some time ago, and when he simply ignored
questions about other evidence rather than answering them, the
community finally got tired of him.  So he did what any of us would
do: publish it in a book. 

We have also had a lot of people through the Institute, and I have
seen some up at LANL, to talk about peak oil.  Apart from one
oil-industry spokesman at a LANL meeting, none of them has expressed a
serious reservation about the peak oil extraction rate estimates's
being roughly right.  The issue being that the energetic costs of
extraction (no matter how they come to be priced) become limiting on
the value of getting to oil, considerably before even the currently
estimated reserves are "fully" exhausted.

I have the Gold book, too, and need to read it at some point, because
there may still be correct claims about the pervasiveness of bacterial
and archaeal life well into the crust, which I would care about for
other reasons.

Eric




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Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Jochen Fromm circa 10/26/2008 07:25 AM:
> http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/the-true-crisis-is-still-to-come/

I'm currently reading "The Deep Hot Biosphere" and Gold presents a
pretty persuasive argument that the hydrocarbons (oil, methane, coal,
...) we burn for energy are not (mostly) fossil fuels.  I'm still too
ignorant to have my own opinion on whether the hydrocarbons are [a]biogenic.

But I wonder how you guys think abiogenic origins of hydrocarbons would
affect "peak oil"?  On the one hand, if oil is percolating up from deep
sources, although still finite, the estimates of the total amount of oil
we can exploit would rise significantly.  (And much of the peak oil
problem would be solvable through new technologies for getting at the
oil.)  But on the other hand, our burn rate, being exponential, will
eventually outpace production rates, despite advances in extraction
technology.

Does that mean that the peak oil argument is essentially unchanged
regardless of whether the hydrocarbons are primordial or biogenic?

(I know it's reductionist of me... I'll say a few Hail Marys in penance
... but I'd like to separate the peak oil issue from the global climate
change issue and focus solely on peak oil and the origins of oil... for
now, anyway.)

-- 
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[FRIAM] Probability space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2008-10-27 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm reading through the interesting book on statistical mechanics and  
computation mentioned earlier on the list:

http://n2.nabble.com/Re%3A--WedTech--A-Winter%27s-Read-td1369555.html

So I found myself brushing up on probability theory, and was amazed to  
see what all has gone on since my earlier (like 1960's & 1970's)  
reading!  The most fascinating point is that measures and sigma  
algebras have crept in as a way to better qualify and understand  
"events" .. which I always understood to simply be any subset of the  
sample space, Omega.  Nope.  For many probability spaces, not all  
subsets qualify as events.  Here are some pointers:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_space
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_space
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
I particularly like this from the first reference above:
  "A probability space is a measure space such that the
   measure of the whole space is equal to 1."
Sweet!

This is fascinating .. yet more unification within mathematics.  Great  
fun to see what all's gone on since grad school.  Hopefully this will  
help statistic crawl from its grave of the law of large numbers and  
the central limit theorem into the light of far more sophisticated,  
cleaner mathematics.


-- Owen




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Re: [FRIAM] Subject:Grappa Wireless Internet

2008-10-27 Thread peter

Thanks Steve / Robert

And everyone who has responded directly   It would seem that they are 
using Motorola Canopy 800 system.


In Rio Rancho our company did a bunch of tests with various 802.11 
variants and even up to 802.20 Wi-max ( also FOS laser ) and we found 
some really curious issues with wireless up here in this part of NM such as


1. The faux adobe coatings on the majority of homes had chicken wire 
over the drywall and exterior coating to bond the plaster. This created 
a de facto Faraday cage effect and necessitated the use of a receptor 
booster amplifier as the only means of signal stability ( Best place for 
signal input device was on the roof structure about 4 feet above the 
roof clearing the up stand wall )   Attempts to use these buildings as 
reflectors ( Pool table type )  also fails for similar reasons. ( 
Different building structures perform better but you have to know that 
in advance )


2. Line of site target accuracy issues and echoing was prevalent on all 
wireless systems except FOS with huge loss of signal ( The signal bends 
and warps in atmospheric changes )


3. Weather related issues (  also seasonal ) affected all systems and 
deteriorated service by some 40 - 60%


4. No company at that time had run pre service due diligence ( In all 
seasons ) and none had mapped good / average / poor service areas  ( 
Azulstar only tested the signal to truck mounted antennas with good line 
of site to the service transmitter no more than 1 mile from the central 
site and not to the customers service point - hence they went out of 
business when it did not work )


5. No system could demonstrate good symmetrical performance average was 
( performance quoted to actual = Down 60% --- Up 20 - 30% )


6. Security issues were noted on all systems and interception of both 
down and up was fairly easy with open source products


7. Multiple issues where noted with signal interference between 
especially around electrical power high voltage transmission lines ( 
this rocketed in winter rain and adverse weather conditions and it would 
seem that the magnetic field of the lines shifts in bad weather and even 
sunspot type phases )


All the above basically means that the field crews that support wireless 
must be constantly adjusting the system parameters to make it work an 
expensive proposition.


The added point is that once the issues are understood you can boost the 
service in huge ways ( Including compression bursts and bit torrent type 
support ) especially if you are using the system to monitor the system 
and set realistic goals and know the type of service that the customer 
really wants.


Curious to get comments and further feedback

( : ( : pete

  




Subject:
Re: [FRIAM] Grappa Wireless Internet
From:
Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:18:43 -0600
To:
The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 

To:
The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 


Robert Holmes wrote:
Charming people but their internet service sucks. My connection from 
them is currently running at about 300K instead of the 1.5M I'm 
paying for ($70 per month). 
I'm on a similar Motorola 600Mhz System run by the San Ildefonso 
corporation Tewacom.com and have a similar experience (paying 
$60/month).   My service varies from 0-1.5M with ~.3M typical.   I get 
almost total dropouts for minutes at a time.  They continue to insist 
that my service is symmetric but it is rare that I get more than 50% 
of download on upload.   I use: http://speakeasy.net/speedtest/ most 
of the time.


If there is something inherently limited in these systems, I'd like to 
understand it.   I don't like pestering people trying to do their job 
(TewaCom or Grappa) but I also like getting consistent, expected 
performance.


Also because of the location of their radio towers (Santa Fe ski 
basin) their service gets even worse during the winter. Last winter 
they ended up giving everyone a rebate on one month's fee, though 
personally I'd have rather have the up-time than the cash.
I'm one mile from the TewaCom Xmitter and I get little if any 
weather-related problems, but do seem to find dropouts and I seem to 
need to reboot the 600Mhz modem somewhere between several times over a 
few days to only once in a month.
As soon as my contact expires, I'm transfering to Qwest, who have 
just started offering DSL in my neighbourhood.


I switched from 1.5M (nominally down) Satellite WildBlue (56k up) 
which was *never* down but averaged .5M down and .05 up with lots of 
lag. WildBlue also had monthly quotas (not sliding) which did not 
support iTunes-class downloads on a regular basis.


Previously I was on dialup which I rarely got higher than 28K 
connection with effective speeds of maybe 50% of that.


I think Wireless on this scale makes most sense only when there are no 
other choices.  If DSL or Cable come available, I think t