Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Marcus Daniels]

How about $10 a gallon gas and $2000 / month rent?  I'd settle for that.

On 10/11/18, 12:14 PM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" 
 wrote:

Thanks, Barry, 

But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of sin, 
and if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier State of 
Grace.  I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in Berkeley.  That's 
what gasoline SHOULD cost.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, thanks 
to inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.

--Barry


On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:

> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal 
> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's 
> time to suck it up?
>


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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Gillian Densmore]

Hmm question for nick to consider: how reliable are they now?

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 2:12 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> Late to the party here, but here is my perspective: the apparent speed of
> laptops I've upgraded has increased 5X or more just by changing the old
> spinning hard drive for an SSD. This mostly shows up in startup and
> shutdown, and launching programs. Some of us love tinkering with stuff and
> making it work better, but I'm unfortunately not in a location to be able
> to physically help.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:25 AM Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old and] I
>> was running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard machine
>> offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering how
>> people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger hard
>> disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud storage
>> is not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte sized
>> USB drives and running software from them or telling some software to store
>> to them?  How’s that work?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Gary Schiltz]

Late to the party here, but here is my perspective: the apparent speed of
laptops I've upgraded has increased 5X or more just by changing the old
spinning hard drive for an SSD. This mostly shows up in startup and
shutdown, and launching programs. Some of us love tinkering with stuff and
making it work better, but I'm unfortunately not in a location to be able
to physically help.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:25 AM Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old and] I was
> running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard machine
> offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering how
> people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger hard
> disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud storage
> is not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte sized
> USB drives and running software from them or telling some software to store
> to them?  How’s that work?
>
>
>
> Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Nick Thompson]

Gary,

 

My first job was as a copy boy at the San Francisco Chronicle for a dollar an 
hour.  Our two bedroom cottage was 75 dollars a month.  

 

Do you remember when we waltzed to the Souza Band? [My wasn’t the music grand!}

 

While I am wasting your collective time, can anyone explain why, having deleted 
over 5000 messages from my outlook, and emptied the deleted items file, and 
restarted Outlook, and reloaded my C: drive, I have LESS space on my hard disk 
than before?  

 

Yeah.  I know.  The rest of you have day jobs.   

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

  
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 2:02 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

 

And doggone it, I really *should* be back working in the gas station like I did 
in High School, for $2 an hour.

 

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:14 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Thanks, Barry, 

But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of sin, and 
if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier State of Grace.  
I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in Berkeley.  That's what 
gasoline SHOULD cost.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com> >
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, thanks to 
inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.

--Barry


On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:

> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal 
> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's 
> time to suck it up?
>


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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Edward Angel]

I would have grabbed the gas station job. I spent a summer working in a 
warehouse for $1 hour (no benefits too). My boss’ boss, recognizing what I good 
worker I was, tried to get me to not return to Caltech and keep working in the 
warehouse. After all, my direct boss was making $60/week after 20 or so years.

Ed
___

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> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:01 PM, Gary Schiltz  wrote:
> 
> And doggone it, I really *should* be back working in the gas station like I 
> did in High School, for $2 an hour.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:14 PM Nick Thompson  > wrote:
> Thanks, Barry, 
> 
> But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of sin, and 
> if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier State of Grace. 
>  I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in Berkeley.  That's what 
> gasoline SHOULD cost.  
> 
> Nick 
> 
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group  >
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
> 
> This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, thanks to 
> inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.
> 
> --Barry
> 
> 
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:
> 
> > I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal 
> > injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's 
> > time to suck it up?
> >
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Gary Schiltz]

And doggone it, I really *should* be back working in the gas station like I
did in High School, for $2 an hour.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:14 PM Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Thanks, Barry,
>
> But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of sin,
> and if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier State of
> Grace.  I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in Berkeley.
> That's what gasoline SHOULD cost.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> MacKichan
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, thanks
> to inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.
>
> --Barry
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> > I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal
> > injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's
> > time to suck it up?
> >
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Nick Thompson]

Thanks, Barry, 

But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of sin, and 
if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier State of Grace.  
I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in Berkeley.  That's what 
gasoline SHOULD cost.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, thanks to 
inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.

--Barry


On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:

> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal 
> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's 
> time to suck it up?
>


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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Barry MacKichan]

This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, 
thanks to inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, 
“dimes”.


--Barry


On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:

I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal 
injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's 
time to suck it up?





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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Gillian Densmore]

As to size vs speed?that's a great question!to be honest I'm curious as
well .
Size for me and as importantly as you point out finding things is important
as well.

Not to pry might help to know what you do mostly.
For example I am moving from a ton of computer gaming to auidiobooks and
watching pulpy fun to. And to do some audulting .
So being able to write thing is n Google's cloud or old school faxing
without a a d headache  ocaiocioly Skype Google Hangouts. Etc is a big
thing.

Fir you if your big stuff is reasearch writing, and review then maybe a
large disk vs fast one might help.
Can't make good suggestions without knowing what you fo though.:-)😁


On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 11:22 AM Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Thanks, everybody.  I now think I understand what is happening: the demand
> for speed in hard disks has overtaken the demand for size.  Or to put it
> another way, for most of you, you will gladly accept the added cognitive
> burden imposed by having two hard disks in return for the added speed
> provided by a smaller internal ssd.
>
>
>
> As to my present situation, I am beginning to have a Dark Suspicion. It’s
> just not right for somebody whose computer use is as primitive as mine to
> be using up so much HD space.   And as fast as I clear space on my hard
> disk, it get’s used up again.  I am wondering if some program isn’t
> gobbling up space fast as I can free it.  I found about a gig of old
> I-tunes pod casts tucked away, and have been trying to beat I=tunes in to
> submission.  Are there other places to look for misbehaving programs that
> are piling up garbage in large stinking plastic bags on my hard disk?
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:44 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
>
>
> Nick these all sound like pretty good ideas.  To me it seems like their's
> always some need to get a pretty good sized hard drive. FWIW I didn't guess
> right for my computer. I thought 1 terabyte would be plenty. I am wrong.
> As to the cloud. Yeah I don't know. For back up? It's pretty good. I just
> think it's about the right thing for the job.
>
> I don't know if anyone else has suggested this: ram; Windows eats
> surprisling large amount.
>
>
>
> Question: do you particularly need or really want to stay with a laptop?
>
> HP isn't all that good of a computer company. Just my experience it hasn't
> been all that good since...forever at least the 90's and really since the
> 80's I'd say.
>
>
>
> My brother (Tim) a while back got a think pad. At the time seemed to like
> it. I don't know  what their like now.  Anyone have some opinions their
> anygood still?  I thought his wife
>
>
>
> The reason I suggest thinking about a desktop. Is it might be a lot less
> hastle to get a good hard drive and ram.  Plus installing them is not at
> all straitforward even at a shop with a ton of equipment. experience. I
> have done it with a hand me down from owen(dad). But let me tell you on the
> apple it was not that straitward and seriusly had a few moments: Oh fuck
> please tell me that dropped screw didn't hork something up.
>
>
>
>
>
> I totally agree with the SSD(their really big thumb drives basically)..and
> I didn't know that a 500 gig  one is about 90.. that's awesome !
>
> .
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:01 PM Roger Critchlow  wrote:
>
> I think getting the largest SSD you can afford is a good idea, 500G SSD
> internal drives are around $90, a terabyte is less than twice that.  Get a
> laptop with a small SSD in the best technology and have someone swap in a
> bigger and badder drive.
>
>
>
> Just don't lose the laptop.  My dad spilled orange juice into his laptop
> case once on a visit, never did find out why he was travelling with it.  Or
> maybe you should just do that first and solve all your data storage
> problems up front?
>
>
>
> Micro SD cards are great, but I can't find any of mine other than the one
> that's plugged into my laptop.  And the slots tend to be all connected with
> USB 2.0 buses last time I checked.  Which I had to do by bench marking the
> same card in a USB 3.0 adapter vs the builtin reader slot, because no one
> specifies how the built ion SD card interface is provisioned.
>
>
>
> -- rec --
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:42 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <
> alfr...@covaleda.co> wrote:
>
> Marcus idea is good. During years I have been using a cheap Chinese SD
> card as main drive using LINUX OS running on an old tiny laptop which lack
> of a mechanical hard drive. I have just updated to a newer Linux
> distribution and I also installed Dropbox there, so I always bring my
> important files. These days you co

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

[Nick Thompson]

Thanks, everybody.  I now think I understand what is happening: the demand for 
speed in hard disks has overtaken the demand for size.  Or to put it another 
way, for most of you, you will gladly accept the added cognitive burden imposed 
by having two hard disks in return for the added speed provided by a smaller 
internal ssd.  

 

As to my present situation, I am beginning to have a Dark Suspicion. It’s just 
not right for somebody whose computer use is as primitive as mine to be using 
up so much HD space.   And as fast as I clear space on my hard disk, it get’s 
used up again.  I am wondering if some program isn’t gobbling up space fast as 
I can free it.  I found about a gig of old I-tunes pod casts tucked away, and 
have been trying to beat I=tunes in to submission.  Are there other places to 
look for misbehaving programs that are piling up garbage in large stinking 
plastic bags on my hard disk? 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

  
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:44 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

 

Nick these all sound like pretty good ideas.  To me it seems like their's 
always some need to get a pretty good sized hard drive. FWIW I didn't guess 
right for my computer. I thought 1 terabyte would be plenty. I am wrong.  As to 
the cloud. Yeah I don't know. For back up? It's pretty good. I just think it's 
about the right thing for the job.  

I don't know if anyone else has suggested this: ram; Windows eats surprisling 
large amount.  

 

Question: do you particularly need or really want to stay with a laptop? 

HP isn't all that good of a computer company. Just my experience it hasn't been 
all that good since...forever at least the 90's and really since the 80's I'd 
say.

 

My brother (Tim) a while back got a think pad. At the time seemed to like it. I 
don't know  what their like now.  Anyone have some opinions their anygood 
still?  I thought his wife

 

The reason I suggest thinking about a desktop. Is it might be a lot less hastle 
to get a good hard drive and ram.  Plus installing them is not at all 
straitforward even at a shop with a ton of equipment. experience. I have done 
it with a hand me down from owen(dad). But let me tell you on the apple it was 
not that straitward and seriusly had a few moments: Oh fuck please tell me that 
dropped screw didn't hork something up.

 

 

I totally agree with the SSD(their really big thumb drives basically)..and I 
didn't know that a 500 gig  one is about 90.. that's awesome !

.

 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:01 PM Roger Critchlow mailto:r...@elf.org> > wrote:

I think getting the largest SSD you can afford is a good idea, 500G SSD 
internal drives are around $90, a terabyte is less than twice that.  Get a 
laptop with a small SSD in the best technology and have someone swap in a 
bigger and badder drive.

 

Just don't lose the laptop.  My dad spilled orange juice into his laptop case 
once on a visit, never did find out why he was travelling with it.  Or maybe 
you should just do that first and solve all your data storage problems up front?

 

Micro SD cards are great, but I can't find any of mine other than the one 
that's plugged into my laptop.  And the slots tend to be all connected with USB 
2.0 buses last time I checked.  Which I had to do by bench marking the same 
card in a USB 3.0 adapter vs the builtin reader slot, because no one specifies 
how the built ion SD card interface is provisioned.

 

-- rec --

 

 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:42 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez mailto:alfr...@covaleda.co> > wrote:

Marcus idea is good. During years I have been using a cheap Chinese SD card as 
main drive using LINUX OS running on an old tiny laptop which lack of a 
mechanical hard drive. I have just updated to a newer Linux distribution and I 
also installed Dropbox there, so I always bring my important files. These days 
you could buy 1024 GB SD for less than 50 US dollars.   

 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote:

If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:   
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374

Marcus


On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson" mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Thanks, everybody.  

In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80 year 
old is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard drive, stuff 
on  a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a ticket for 
disaster.  So also is a system in which every where I go, I have to carry not 
only the laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing eighty-year-olds don't 
need (as you will s

Re: [FRIAM] SSD drive(s)

[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez]

There is rare hybrid  technology that combines SSD with a mechanical disc.
Both in one for device. Theoretically the idea behind these technology is
to boost up performance and increase storage capacity in one device for a
lower price compared with a "pure" SSD . In ebay you find it between 50 -
90 American dollars around  for one TB sounds a little more affordable.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Thanks Roger!
> That's great to know! And thanks. I'll check out amazon, and add one to my
> wish list.
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM Roger Critchlow  wrote:
>
>> Gil --
>>
>> I find these amazing prices by searching Google and Amazon for internal
>> SSD drives.
>>
>> I've been running ubuntu on an SSD drive for several years, it's never
>> noticed.
>>
>> -- rec --
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:51 PM Gillian Densmore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Qqu 90 bucks! man I think even i can afford that!
>>> Holly shit that's awesome roger!? where do you find those.
>>> Are those combatible with Ubuntu...if you even know that is.  Before the
>>> mods (probably steve or whoever) say: uh seriusly dude? and at what time?
>>> I love ubuntuu for a lot of reasons...gaming...not so much--thought
>>> kinda moving away from that.
>>>
>>> Roger, or anybody know if Ubuntuu works with them?...
>>> My current drive is bing a bit weird even with ubuntuu. So I'll probably
>>> need to get a new one eventually. I'm think if I'd be doing that anyway
>>> just to get two one for windows for games or what else sucks ass to get
>>> wine working with it.
>>> And use a regular dumb ass drive for ubuntu., unless it works with SSDs
>>> now. Didn't about a year or so ago.
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] SSD drive(s)

[Gillian Densmore]

Thanks Roger!
That's great to know! And thanks. I'll check out amazon, and add one to my
wish list.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> Gil --
>
> I find these amazing prices by searching Google and Amazon for internal
> SSD drives.
>
> I've been running ubuntu on an SSD drive for several years, it's never
> noticed.
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:51 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Qqu 90 bucks! man I think even i can afford that!
>> Holly shit that's awesome roger!? where do you find those.
>> Are those combatible with Ubuntu...if you even know that is.  Before the
>> mods (probably steve or whoever) say: uh seriusly dude? and at what time?
>> I love ubuntuu for a lot of reasons...gaming...not so much--thought kinda
>> moving away from that.
>>
>> Roger, or anybody know if Ubuntuu works with them?...
>> My current drive is bing a bit weird even with ubuntuu. So I'll probably
>> need to get a new one eventually. I'm think if I'd be doing that anyway
>> just to get two one for windows for games or what else sucks ass to get
>> wine working with it.
>> And use a regular dumb ass drive for ubuntu., unless it works with SSDs
>> now. Didn't about a year or so ago.
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] SSD drive(s)

[Roger Critchlow]

Gil --

I find these amazing prices by searching Google and Amazon for internal SSD
drives.

I've been running ubuntu on an SSD drive for several years, it's never
noticed.

-- rec --

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:51 PM Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Qqu 90 bucks! man I think even i can afford that!
> Holly shit that's awesome roger!? where do you find those.
> Are those combatible with Ubuntu...if you even know that is.  Before the
> mods (probably steve or whoever) say: uh seriusly dude? and at what time?
> I love ubuntuu for a lot of reasons...gaming...not so much--thought kinda
> moving away from that.
>
> Roger, or anybody know if Ubuntuu works with them?...
> My current drive is bing a bit weird even with ubuntuu. So I'll probably
> need to get a new one eventually. I'm think if I'd be doing that anyway
> just to get two one for windows for games or what else sucks ass to get
> wine working with it.
> And use a regular dumb ass drive for ubuntu., unless it works with SSDs
> now. Didn't about a year or so ago.
> Just a thought.
>
> 
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