Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Richard Clark 

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On 06/giu/05, at 22:46, bobgir2004 wrote:

I've always been struck by the fact that in Europe, the land of  
high
taxes and "socialist" entitlements such as universal "free" health  
care,
relatively inexpensive (as compared to the U.S.) university-level  
education,
etc., many of things that are genuinely "free" in the U.S., such as  
free

internet access at libraries, some coffee houses, etc., are strictly
pay-as-you-go.

My favorite pet peeve is, in all but the biggest international  
hotels in
major cities, the refusal to turn on the air conditioning or heat  
until a
set date.  Weather unseasonably cold?  Too bad:  you have to wait  
for the
"official" beginning of winter before the heating system gets  
turned on.


The other one is those timer switches on hallway lights that  
light your
way to your hotel room only if you sprint all the way.  Try  
walking, and
you'll do the last 30 seconds in the total dark, feeling your way  
along the

wall to what you hope is your door.

Roberto



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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread bobgir2004 
> Nothing is free in Italy, we also pay for the air we breath.
said Richard Clark

I've always been struck by the fact that in Europe, the land of high
taxes and "socialist" entitlements such as universal "free" health care,
relatively inexpensive (as compared to the U.S.) university-level education,
etc., many of things that are genuinely "free" in the U.S., such as free
internet access at libraries, some coffee houses, etc., are strictly
pay-as-you-go.  

My favorite pet peeve is, in all but the biggest international hotels in
major cities, the refusal to turn on the air conditioning or heat until a
set date.  Weather unseasonably cold?  Too bad:  you have to wait for the
"official" beginning of winter before the heating system gets turned on.

The other one is those timer switches on hallway lights that light your
way to your hotel room only if you sprint all the way.  Try walking, and
you'll do the last 30 seconds in the total dark, feeling your way along the
wall to what you hope is your door.

Roberto



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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga 
I live in Italy and I travel back and forth to 
California, but also around Europe.


To tell the truth I noticed that the price per 
hour in the hot spots is similar (up to 5 euros) 
while each internet cafè has its own policy.


How long are you going to stay in Italy?

If you speak Italian have a look at:

www.libero.it

www.187.it

you may find out that a subscription for a few 
months to a broadband service is what you need.


Or you may find out that one of you neighbors has 
the broadband wifi and will be happy to share it 
with you, for free.


Ben

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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Richard Clark 

Nothing is free in Italy, we also pay for the air we breath.
On 06/giu/05, at 19:56, Peter Saint James wrote:

   In the US, there are some places that offer free connections.   
Libraries also offer a place to get on-line.  Is this true in Europe?





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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Peter Saint James 


On 6 Jun2005, at 1:18 PM, Simon Tang wrote:


When I was in Italy last year, internet cafes costed an arm and a leg!



What are the alternatives for travelers in Europe?

In the US, there are some places that offer free connections.   
Libraries also offer a place to get on-line.  Is this true in Europe?



Peter


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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Simon Tang 
When I was in Italy last year, internet cafes costed an arm and a leg!
 Depending on the cafe, the costs were 1-2 Euros per 15 mins, which
comes out to be 8-16 USD/Hour.  Granted I was probably getting ripped
off because I was a tourist,  nevertheless, costs can add up if you
plan on being online for more than an hour a day.  You may be able to
negotiate a better rate if you don't use their computer (just their
connection).

I guess the points to consider would be if cost is an issue;  the
amount of time that you would be online; and if you had planned on
doing anything other than websurfing and email.


Simon


On 6/6/05, Peter Apockotos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Ed Zelinsky wrote:
> 
> > I am going to be in Lucca Italy soon. In an apartment over an
> > internet cafe. Should I take my Pismo ( I hate the thought! ) with
> > a wireless card or should I just use the resources at the cafe for
> > communicating with the US. Is it easy or hard to hook up an
> > internet connection?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ed Zelinsky
> 
> 
> If you are going to stay in one place.   I would suggest finding a
> dialup isp.  My experience with overseas icafes are that the
> connection isn't that great.
> 
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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Peter Apockotos 



On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Ed Zelinsky wrote:

I am going to be in Lucca Italy soon. In an apartment over an  
internet cafe. Should I take my Pismo ( I hate the thought! ) with  
a wireless card or should I just use the resources at the cafe for  
communicating with the US. Is it easy or hard to hook up an  
internet connection?


Thanks,

Ed Zelinsky



If you are going to stay in one place.   I would suggest finding a  
dialup isp.  My experience with overseas icafes are that the  
connection isn't that great.



Peter Apockotos
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Re: International travel internet question

2005-06-06 Thread Clark Martin 

At 9:38 AM -0400 6/6/05, Ed Zelinsky wrote:
I am going to be in Lucca Italy soon. In an apartment over an 
internet cafe. Should I take my Pismo ( I hate the thought! ) with a 
wireless card or should I just use the resources at the cafe for 
communicating with the US. Is it easy or hard to hook up an internet 
connection?


It all depends on the Internet Cafe and how they authenticate users.
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Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Computer / Internet Consultant
Another designated driver on the Information Super Highway

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