Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
I have the same problem with my 12.04 box. The solution I found is to set the Editor font to "Ubuntu mono, 9" This way, unfortunately, the code on large display (high resolution) become really unreadable, very little! Any settings like Hinting, Antialiasing, different font, doesn't fix the problem. QMake version 2.01a Using Qt version 4.8.0 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Sorry - I meant KDE not Kubuntu! So KDE doesn't give me any problems so far. Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33485307.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Le 12/03/2012 09:36, Bill-Lancaster a écrit : > > > Dear Benoît, > > I've not used Kubuntu before - I like it so I'll stay with it however it > would be selfish to just walk away from this problem! > > Under Ubuntu the screen resolution is shown as 96X96 dpi. > > I logged onto Ubuntu as guest, attempted to edit on of the example projects > - same problem. > > Is there anything else I can do? > > Bill Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing. So it may be a QT library configuration problem related to the font, I don't know. Are you the only one having that problem? -- Benoît Minisini -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Dear Benoît, I've not used Kubuntu before - I like it so I'll stay with it however it would be selfish to just walk away from this problem! Under Ubuntu the screen resolution is shown as 96X96 dpi. I logged onto Ubuntu as guest, attempted to edit on of the example projects - same problem. Is there anything else I can do? Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33484780.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Dear Benoît Have installed Kubuntu desktop and after a short trial, everything seems to be working fine. Thanks for your help Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33484512.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Le 11/03/2012 23:48, Bill-Lancaster a écrit : > > I'm happy to do whatever is needed to get out f this! > > Do you want the whole project? Would just a sample do? > > Bill You have apparently a font-related problem. This problem may be visible only in the Gambas Editor control, because that control has an optimized way for computing character widths. Can you try everything I told you in my previous mail and report the result? Can you create a new user on your system, and try Gambas with it to see if you have the same problem? That way, we will be able to know if it is a system-wide problem, or a problem related to the user font directories (custom user fonts, user font cache...) Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
El 11/03/12 23:48, Bill-Lancaster escribió: > > I'm happy to do whatever is needed to get out f this! > > Do you want the whole project? Would just a sample do? > > Bill Hi Bill Ideally an small working project would do the job. If possible, only one form and no databases. I'm not very familiar with the Editor control, but we need to start looking somewhere into it. Perhaps while you're making the example project, you will find the solution. Regards -- Jesus Guardon -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
I'm happy to do whatever is needed to get out f this! Do you want the whole project? Would just a sample do? Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33483280.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
El 11/03/12 19:53, Bill-Lancaster escribió: > > My Ubuntu theme is 'Ambiance', Changed it to 'Radiance' then 'Highg Contrast' > No change You might try to do an small test case, i.e. an small working project that demonstrates the issue. Many times has proven that doing this, one could be able to find the error or let others to test it under different environments. Will you share it with us? ;-) Regards -- Jesus Guardon -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
My Ubuntu theme is 'Ambiance', Changed it to 'Radiance' then 'Highg Contrast' No change -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33482196.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Thank you. command line - qmake --version produces:- QMake version 2.01a Using Qt version 4.8.0 in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu Is this of any help? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33482137.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Le 11/03/2012 10:49, Bill-Lancaster a écrit : > > Dear Benoît > I thought I would bring Ubuntu up to date, had a warning "Not alll updates > can be installed". > When I run type "gambas3" in terminal I get:- > gb.qt4: warning: unable to load Qt translation: en_GB.UTF-8 > This warning is not important. As Qt messages are initially written in english, no english translation is provided. Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Dear Benoît I thought I would bring Ubuntu up to date, had a warning "Not alll updates can be installed". When I run type "gambas3" in terminal I get:- gb.qt4: warning: unable to load Qt translation: en_GB.UTF-8 Don't know how to find version of QT4 and so far can't find out how (sorry!) Just tried a new dummy project with QT component and it seems to behave properly. Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33480215.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
> but no change Well if you did the apt-get install suggested by Jussi correctly, I would expect the following messages to disappear (which is a change, maybe just not the one you're looking for): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", Can you confirm this? It may not be of vital importance to get rid of a couple of warning messages but it will show that changes you make are having an influence... Regards, Caveat On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 14:36 -0800, Bill-Lancaster wrote: > OK Ran the code but no change, e.g. > > part of a line of code is " 1005 AND TransDate >= '" > > if I delete the "D" in TransDate I get " 1005 AND TransDte >= '" & mGen" > > At this point, the cursor is not representing the point of editing. > > I'm going to try to copy this project into a new one. New projects don't > deem to have this problem. > > Thanks Jussi -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Le 10/03/2012 15:30, Bill-Lancaster a écrit : > > Gambas3, Ubuntu 12.04 > I have one project (a large one) where editing code has become impossible. > The result of any keystroke seems to random. For example a line of code has > Date)>= '2009-04-06' AND TRansDate>= If the 6 in 2009-04-06 is removed > using the delete key, it remains but the space following 06' disappears! > Sometimes the cursor is positioned in the middle of a character. Creating a > new blank form still has the problem. > I've just installed Gambas3 and Ubuntu 12.04 on a new hard drive but this > behavior has only recently set in. > Any advice would be welcome. > Bill Lancaster The Gambas 3 IDE uses the gb.qt4 component. Check which version of Qt is installed on your system. Recently Ubuntu upgraded to Qt 4.8, and apparently it changed the way text was drawn on the screen. Check which widget theme you are using (i.e. note it, and change it to see if it changes anything). If you use Ubuntu + Unity or Gnome, Qt applications like the Gambas 3 IDE uses the "GTK+" Qt theme that uses the current GTK theme to draw the Qt widgets. Try to use KDE or XFCE or LXDE to see if it changes anything. Check the screen resolution in DPI as configured by the X server (xdpyinfo command). Check which antialiasing mode is used (which hinting, which sub-pixel antialiasing mode). Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
hi, On Sat, 10 Mar 2012, Bill-Lancaster wrote: > > OK Ran the code but no change, e.g. > > part of a line of code is " 1005 AND TransDate >= '" > > if I delete the "D" in TransDate I get " 1005 AND TransDte >= '" & mGen" > > At this point, the cursor is not representing the point of editing. > > I'm going to try to copy this project into a new one. New projects don't > deem to have this problem. > > Thanks Jussi well, this completely is speculation but there are two things coming to my mind: 1. are you sure there are no control characters in your sources that may confuse the editor control? some source migration/conversion or whatever problem? 2. you said that your project is rather large. i think i remember editing a large file (huge line lengths and overall size) when similar problems occured (not sure whether i didn't just dream it) but this was completely outside gambas so the problem may be elsewhere. to follow this assumption we must know anyway if your sources match the above characteristics (long lines/huge source files). regards, tobi -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
OK Ran the code but no change, e.g. part of a line of code is " 1005 AND TransDate >= '" if I delete the "D" in TransDate I get " 1005 AND TransDte >= '" & mGen" At this point, the cursor is not representing the point of editing. I'm going to try to copy this project into a new one. New projects don't deem to have this problem. Thanks Jussi -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33478910.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf Jussi On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 21:35, Bill-Lancaster wrote: > > When editing code the cursor is positioned either one or two character > before > the point at which insertion actually occurs. > > And this may be a clue. On compiling the programme the following is > reported > > Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", > > Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", > gb.qt4: warning: unable to load Qt translation: en_GB.UTF-8 > gbx3: warning: circular references detected: > gbx3: 1 FMain > gbx3: warning: 229 allocation(s) non freed. > > Any ideas? > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33478332.html > Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > ___ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
When editing code the cursor is positioned either one or two character before the point at which insertion actually occurs. And this may be a clue. On compiling the programme the following is reported Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", gb.qt4: warning: unable to load Qt translation: en_GB.UTF-8 gbx3: warning: circular references detected: gbx3: 1 FMain gbx3: warning: 229 allocation(s) non freed. Any ideas? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33478332.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Here is what is happening:- I must position the cursor ONE character before the point where I want a new character to be entered! The cursor does not seem to be in the middle of a character anymore. Writing a new line of code is not too bad but editing a line is nearly impossible. Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33478262.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
CORRECTION - problem hasn't gone away! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33478237.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
OK, have rebuilt everything and the problem has gone away. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33478226.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Sorry, can't find IDE font (or sytem font)! The cursor isn't always position over a character. Components used are:- gb, gb.db, gb.form, gb.image, gb.pdf, gb.qt4 and gt,qt4.ext I have deadlines to meet and suspect this odd behaviour is not only with Gambas so I'm going to rebuild anyway Thanks -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33477413.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
>From your description of the problem, it seems to be with cursor position only? Or is there random characters too? Try changing system font or IDE font. Give more information of your system (used fonts, From IDE menu ? --> system information, etc). Jussi On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 16:30, Bill-Lancaster wrote: > > Gambas3, Ubuntu 12.04 > I have one project (a large one) where editing code has become impossible. > The result of any keystroke seems to random. For example a line of code > has > Date) >= '2009-04-06' AND TRansDate >= If the 6 in 2009-04-06 is removed > using the delete key, it remains but the space following 06' disappears! > Sometimes the cursor is positioned in the middle of a character. Creating > a > new blank form still has the problem. > I've just installed Gambas3 and Ubuntu 12.04 on a new hard drive but this > behavior has only recently set in. > Any advice would be welcome. > Bill Lancaster > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33477237.html > Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > ___ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Possibly this is as a result of trying to install "alacarte" which failed. I'm going to rebuild the system unless I get different advice! Bill -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33477300.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] Strange Keyboard Behavior
Gambas3, Ubuntu 12.04 I have one project (a large one) where editing code has become impossible. The result of any keystroke seems to random. For example a line of code has Date) >= '2009-04-06' AND TRansDate >= If the 6 in 2009-04-06 is removed using the delete key, it remains but the space following 06' disappears! Sometimes the cursor is positioned in the middle of a character. Creating a new blank form still has the problem. I've just installed Gambas3 and Ubuntu 12.04 on a new hard drive but this behavior has only recently set in. Any advice would be welcome. Bill Lancaster -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Strange-Keyboard-Behavior-tp33477237p33477237.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user