gEDA-user: Polygons in footprints

2007-02-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


How hard would it be to get PCB to accept polygons in footprints?  We'd 
need polygons on both copper and silk layers, and both with and without 
soldermask.


Phil




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Re: gEDA-user: Re: dxf?

2007-02-06 Thread Dave N6NZ



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dave N6NZ wrote:
If other people would find that functionality useful, I will look into 
it.


It would seem handy to be able to import dxf files for certain hardware 
modules, assemblies that mount onto a pcb and for some connectors.


What does "import" mean in this case?  Are you talking about creating a 
footprint from DXF?  And/or silk screen?  Or creating a drill list for 
mounting holes for the modules?  Can you clarify your needs a little bit 
more?


-dave



Phil





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Re: gEDA-user: Re: dxf?

2007-02-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave N6NZ wrote:
If other people would 
find that functionality useful, I will look into it.


It would seem handy to be able to import dxf files for certain hardware 
modules, assemblies that mount onto a pcb and for some connectors.


Phil



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gEDA-user: Re: dxf?

2007-02-06 Thread Dave N6NZ



Carlos Nieves Ónega wrote:


You may import drawings from DXF, but what about component positions,
for example? will you able to get a 3D model of your PCB board? 


I have never used DXF files for 3D.  It is pretty weak at 3D.  It does 
have Z information, and would probably work well enough for getting 
component volumes.  PCB is not going to be able to do anything with a 
component volume, though.




There is another open ASCII format designed for MCAD/ECAD integration:
IDF. I use it everyday at work to exchange data between the mechanical
CAD and the electronic CAD programs (in both directions).


I don't know anything about IDF, and don't have time to study something 
I don't have an immediate use for.  My background is electronics design 
and design automation, so all the mechanical CAD packages are new 
territory for me -- I'm not exactly your first choice for mechanical CAD 
work.


Let me be clear about my motivation: I wrote a 2D DXF processor for 
another project, so I have become familiar with a particular DXF library 
that is very robust for 2D information.  Importing board outlines and 
mounting hole placement seems like useful functionality, and is a 
limited goal that I could probably accomplish.  If other people would 
find that functionality useful, I will look into it.  If it is not 
useful enough in that form to interest other users, I won't bother.


And while I'm stating my limitations, I don't understand DXF well enough 
to use this library to *export* DXF from pcb -- that is a different, 
much harder, problem.  I can see where it would be very nice to export a 
mechanical drawing of a pcb with component placement in a form that 
could be imported into a mechanical package, but I think the project is 
beyond my knowledge of DXF.


-dave


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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing a schematic with a single-inline resistornetwork

2007-02-06 Thread Jeremy Pedersen

[jg]The makefile tells you each time in a way that you can copy and paste

it to

execute it.   The makefile spits out versions for bash, csh, etc.


The makefile from gEDA/gaf out of CVS does that, but I don't believe the
regular old source tarball for gschem does that.

Yep. Gentoo uses /etc/ld.so.conf, but I got it taken care of by uninstalling
the original version, installing the code from CVS locally, and then
exporting a few things in my .bashrc file.

On 2/5/07, John Griessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jeremy Pedersen wrote:

despite it being installed in both /usr/local/lib
and (an older version installed by emerge on my Gentoo Linux machine) in
/usr/lib, it still will not compile. Any ideas?
> What environment variables am I most likely to need to set?


[jg]The makefile tells you each time in a way that you can copy and paste
it to
execute it.   The makefile spits out versions for bash, csh, etc.

John G

PS be sure to uninstall what you had in already, or use --prefix=/opt/geda
or some place to put it that is not default, then make ldconfig find it.
Does Gentoo use /etc/ld.so.conf?



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Re: dxf? (was: Re: gEDA-user: Making an odd-shaped PCB)

2007-02-06 Thread Carlos Nieves Ónega
El lun, 05-02-2007 a las 19:33 -0800, Dave N6NZ escribió:
> Very interesting thread. Taking it a little off topic...
> 
> A question that has come up in the past is the idea of importing data 
> from a mechanical package to get board outline, etc.  As it turns out, 
> I'm working on another project where I have been using dxflib, which is 
> a C++ dxf reading library.
> 
> What would pcb like to see from a .dxf file?  I'm thinking that 
> exporting board outline and mounting holes and nothing else from a dxf 
> file would be straightforward.  How might that be injected into pcb?
> 
> One idea: with the code I already have, I could turn out a simple widget 
> that:
> 1) looked for a particular layer name in a .dxf file, and ignored the rest.
> 2) extracted lines, arcs, and circles, and ignored all other drawing 
> entities and all entity attributes.  Presumably, lines and arcs would 
> form a board outline, and circles would represent drills for mounting 
> screws.
> 3) wrote out some cheesy well-formed XML that could be imported into pcb 
> via something magical, or put through a style sheet to make something 
> pcb wants, or some such.  Alternatively, the program could write 
> something in a native pcb format.  Or somebody that understands the pcb 
> format could volunteer to do a native back-end.

You may import drawings from DXF, but what about component positions,
for example? will you able to get a 3D model of your PCB board? 

There is another open ASCII format designed for MCAD/ECAD integration:
IDF. I use it everyday at work to exchange data between the mechanical
CAD and the electronic CAD programs (in both directions).

Here is an article about it:
http://electronics-cooling.com/articles/2002/2002_november_a2.php

I remember I got the specs from a company called Intermedius Design
Integration, but I am unable to find the link right now.
The specs are also available at:

www.aertia.com/docs/priware/IDF_V20_Spec.pdf 
www.aertia.com/docs/priware/IDF_V30_Spec.pdf 

The mechanical CAD programs I have seen support versions 2.0 and 3.0
(they are quite similar). There is a 4.0 version released, but the
format changes a lot, and I haven't seen any program supporting it.

Best regards,

Carlos



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gEDA-user: Vendor map

2007-02-06 Thread Lares Moreau
When applying the vendor drill map, is it possible to change pad size to meet 
DRC as specified in the drillmap file. Some of the new drill sizes make my DRC 
fail due to copper annulus being to small.

-Lares


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