Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error

2010-06-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Mike Bushroe wrote:

> Now I wish that I had equivalents for all the
> others that don't have by[qass caps inherently in their schematic (voltage
> regulators, MAX232s, etc).

You can assemble frequently needed subcircuits in a special symbol and add 
them with one click to your sheet. 
Make sure to choose "include_component_as_individual_objects!" in the select 
component dialog. This will expose the symbols in the subcircuit-symbol. 
Otherwise you won't be able to edit their attributes.

There are a few such convenience blocks in my section of gedasymbols.org 
(look for the "block" section). One of them deals with voltage regulators:
http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/block/XLR-78xx-79xx.sym


> as I am now for the  Underwater Robotics Competition.

The one in Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center? I watched some of the 
races on youtube. Seems like the task is getting harder over the years.  

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Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error

2010-06-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:36 -0700, Mike Bushroe wrote:

>  No, I (and others) tend to use separate power symbols, like:
>  [1]http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/digital/
>  74_pwr.sym
>  Thank you Kai-Martin!

Caution: That power symbol will not work for 74xx logic gates with 16
pins -- I used 74xx-14N-Pwr-1.sym name at
http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/stefan_salewski/

> 
>And Thank You, John. I had not seen or heard of that one before, and it
>would go great on the separate power and bypass cap page to link a
>specific capacitor with a specific IC. Now I wish that I had
>equivalents for all the others that don't have by[qass caps inherently
>in their schematic (voltage regulators, MAX232s, etc).
> 

I do not really understand -- you may be talking about linking of power
symbols to functional symbols?

> 
>I had also done some gedit work on the file,

gedit is the (default) text editor of Gnome -- there are many others.





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Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error

2010-06-01 Thread Mike Bushroe
 On May 31, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Mike Bushroe wrote:
 > 2) I found that several IC have no power. I know that John Doty
 does
 >   not like to have his schematics cluttered up with surperfluous
 Vcc and
 >   Gnd connections.
 No, I (and others) tend to use separate power symbols, like:
 [1]http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/digital/
 74_pwr.sym
 Thank you Kai-Martin!

   And Thank You, John. I had not seen or heard of that one before, and it
   would go great on the separate power and bypass cap page to link a
   specific capacitor with a specific IC. Now I wish that I had
   equivalents for all the others that don't have by[qass caps inherently
   in their schematic (voltage regulators, MAX232s, etc).

 > But at the other extreme, I just discovered that
 >   7404-1.fp has implicit connections to Vcc and Gnd nets in
 non-printing
 >   attributes, but the identical looking 7404-4.fp does not.
 I believe you are confusing pcb footprints with gschem symbols. They
 are very different things.

   Yes, my bad. i was writing quickly and imprecisely.  It was exactly the
   SYMBOL that I was talking about, not the footprint.

 > Is there some
 >   way to indicate which symbols are powerless and which have
 non-printing
 >   power connections built in?
 From command line:
 grep net= `locate name-of-symbol.sym`
 From gschem:
 1. Select the symbol.
 2. Hierarchy>Down Symbol
 3. Edit>Show/Hide Inv Text
 4. Look for net= attributes.
 > This is especially important in quads and
 >   hex parts that have many slots. And is there a way to change the
 symbol
 >   used without deleting the instance and re-entering all the data
 by
 >   hand?
 The .sch file is text, so a global change of of the symbol name does
 the trick.
 > I don't gattrib allows changing the actuacl symbol file used,
 >   just a few of the attributes.
 These problems are why I recommend making project-specific copies of
 symbols rather than using the library symbols as-is.
 John Doty  Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.

   I had also done some gedit work on the file, and created an error I
   could not find to undo, so I stopped using direct editing on the .sch
   files. Perhaps on the next project, when I am not as far behind a hard
   schedule as I am now for the  Underwater Robotics Competition.
   Mike

References

   1. 
http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/digital/74_pwr.sym


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Re: gEDA-user: gschem: error while loading shared libraries

2010-06-01 Thread John Rigg
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:08:14AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:35 +0100, John Rigg wrote:
> > I've just compiled geda-gaf-1.6.1 on my Debian Lenny system.
> > Compilation went fine, using
> > ./configure
> > make
> > make install
> > 
> > The following error message appears when I try to run gschem from
> > the command line:
> > 
> > gschem: error while loading shared libraries: libgeda.so.38:
> > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > 
> > The file does exist (as a symlink) and it's in /usr/local/lib:
> 
> Try "sudo ldconfig"

That fixed it. Thanks!

John


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