Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread DJ Delorie

I think their tools don't know the difference between vias and pins,
and if you have any vias bigger than the smallest pin, it thinks you
have tented pins.


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:47:55AM -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote:
> Sorry that was a mis-statement.
> 
> Is there anyway to place vias that have a soldermask clearance MORE than 0?

What I typically do is to se all parameters of a via to be what I want, 
and then type "a" on top of the via to perform copies. This way I have 
very few types of vias. 

However, I have never used the autorouter (not of much use for microwave
signals).

Gabriel


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread Anthony Shanks
I just submitted a board to them a few weeks ago.

When I uploaded my gerbers I got hundreds of warnings for having no
soldermask clearance.

I added their minimum clearance and all of the warnings were gone.
Maybe technically since they were warnings its not required, but I
didn't want to take a chance. Plus even if they didn't give me
warnings, I don't want all my vias covered with soldermask.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:03 AM, DJ Delorie  wrote:
>
>> Why is that?
>
> Because nobody's changed it to do otherwise?
>
>> The board house I use (4pcb) requires soldermask clearance for vias.
>
> I use 4pcb and they do not require soldermask clearance for vias.
>
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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread DJ Delorie

> Why is that?

Because nobody's changed it to do otherwise?

> The board house I use (4pcb) requires soldermask clearance for vias.

I use 4pcb and they do not require soldermask clearance for vias.


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread Anthony Shanks
Why is that?

The board house I use (4pcb) requires soldermask clearance for vias.
I'm sure they are not the only ones.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, DJ Delorie  wrote:
>
>> Is there anyway to place vias that have a soldermask clearance MORE
>> than 0?
>
> The code for inserting new vias has a zero hard-coded in the function
> call (action.c, look for CreateNewVia).
>
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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread DJ Delorie

> Is there anyway to place vias that have a soldermask clearance MORE
> than 0?

The code for inserting new vias has a zero hard-coded in the function
call (action.c, look for CreateNewVia).


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread Anthony Shanks
Sorry that was a mis-statement.

Is there anyway to place vias that have a soldermask clearance MORE than 0?

By default, when I place a via, it has zero soldermask clearance.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Gabriel Paubert  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:18:56AM -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote:
>> Is there a way to make a square polygon with round edges in pcb?
>>
>
> Not to my knowledge, I have done it by cutting the corners at 45 degrees
> and adding a non polycon-clearing zero length track at the corner (in one
> case I also used an track drawn with the arc tool, but I don't remember
> why, perhaps because there was a component pad/pin in the area).
>
>> One more unrelated question. Is there a way to place vias with a
>> default soldermask clearance less than 0?
>
> Yes, I almost exclusively use tented vias. Enable the soldermask layer
> and press Shift-K repeatedly until the via is fully covered. Or edit
> the pcb source file, manually or with a script.
>
>        Gabriel
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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:18:56AM -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote:
> Is there a way to make a square polygon with round edges in pcb?
> 

Not to my knowledge, I have done it by cutting the corners at 45 degrees
and adding a non polycon-clearing zero length track at the corner (in one
case I also used an track drawn with the arc tool, but I don't remember
why, perhaps because there was a component pad/pin in the area).  

> One more unrelated question. Is there a way to place vias with a
> default soldermask clearance less than 0?

Yes, I almost exclusively use tented vias. Enable the soldermask layer
and press Shift-K repeatedly until the via is fully covered. Or edit
the pcb source file, manually or with a script.

Gabriel


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygons in PCB

2010-03-08 Thread DJ Delorie

> Is there a way to make a square polygon with round edges in pcb?

Manually?  Sure.  Use a zero-length line to form the round bits on an
otherwise 8-sided polygon.

> One more unrelated question. Is there a way to place vias with a
> default soldermask clearance less than 0?

Soldermask opening size is independent of copper size; "less than
zero" means "smaller than no opening".


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