Re: gEDA-user: Stuck on magnetic nets

2011-05-08 Thread Mike Bushroe
   Collin,
 with snap to grid not set to "R" and the lines and pins lining up, I
   won't need the magnetic net as much. I agree, it often short cuts to
   the point of making routing other lines hard or even making false net
   connections. I had not thought of holding down CRTL while zooming in to
   get it to use the new pixel spacing. I will try that later.
Now the problem is getting pcb to accept the output of gsch2pcb. It
   fails the very first element. Last years pcb files started with all the
   letters and number, then with elements with the name and value on the
   first line. This year, the output from gsch2pcb jumps straight to
   elements, and this one fails around its third line:
   Element(0x00 "" "" "" 600 0 0 100 0x00)
   (
   Pin(150 300 60 50 "1" 0x101)
   Pin(450 300 60 50 "2" 0x01)
   ElementArc(300 300 300 300 0 360 10)
   ElementLine(-60 300-20 300 10)
   ElementLine(-40 280 -40 320 10)
   ElementLine(620 300 660  300 10)

   Mark (150 300)
   ).fp(RCY300P.fp,C3,10uF)
   Mike
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Re: gEDA-user: Stuck on magnetic nets

2011-05-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 8 May 2011 13:57:33 -0700
Mike Bushroe  wrote:

> I just started up again using gschem after a long break, and was
> surprised to see a new feature called magnet net. I general, it was
> great, but it also caused problems.  I started with probably an
> undersized title block, and the page rapidly got stuffed with just a
> 40 pin ATMega and 3 L293 motor drivers. I had the lines spaced very
> close, and the magnet net would not let me pick which pin or line to
> connect to when they were closely spaced. Also, if the line was very
> close to the pin, it would reject the line altogether. I tried
> turning it off, and then nothing would connect. Lines were not on the
> same grid spacing as the pins, and it was really tough making gschem
> accept a net connection.

You may already know this, but you can turn off the new magnetic net
feature with 'om' or Options | Toggle Magnetic Net.  I always turn it
off because even when it chooses the correct target node, the path it
chooses often causes incorrect connections by inadvertently hitting
another pin on the way!  It's a clever idea but it doesn't work at all
for me.

Regards,
Colin


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Re: gEDA-user: Stuck on magnetic nets

2011-05-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Mike Bushroe wrote:

>  In short, is there a way to reduce the 'radius' of the magnet net for
> tight spacing?

If I remember correctly, you have to change the source and recompile. But
others may know better and help me out.

There are two work-arounds:

a) press CTRL to temporarily disable magnetic mode.

b) zoom in. The magnetic distance is a fixed number of pixels on the
screen. When zoomed in, the wrong goals tend to lie behind the horizon
of the magnetic heuristics.

Hope, that helps.

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gEDA-user: Stuck on magnetic nets

2011-05-08 Thread Mike Bushroe
   I just started up again using gschem after a long break, and was
   surprised to see a new feature called magnet net. I general, it was
   great, but it also caused problems.  I started with probably an
   undersized title block, and the page rapidly got stuffed with just a 40
   pin ATMega and 3 L293 motor drivers. I had the lines spaced very close,
   and the magnet net would not let me pick which pin or line to connect
   to when they were closely spaced. Also, if the line was very close to
   the pin, it would reject the line altogether. I tried turning it off,
   and then nothing would connect. Lines were not on the same grid spacing
   as the pins, and it was really tough making gschem accept a net
   connection.
 In short, is there a way to reduce the 'radius' of the magnet net for
   tight spacing?
   Mike
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   Burn the Land,  Boil the Sea,  You can't take the SKY from me!


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