Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-31 Thread Russell Dill
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak  wrote:
> Russell Dill wrote:
>
>> I imagine I'm not the only one running a git mirror of
>> gedasymbols.org. If you rely on gedasymbols.org in any way, It'd be
>> wise to do the same.
>
> Is there a way to propagate changes in the git repo to DJs cvs?
> (short of running cvs commit in a cron job)

git cvsexportcommit


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Russell Dill wrote:

> I imagine I'm not the only one running a git mirror of
> gedasymbols.org. If you rely on gedasymbols.org in any way, It'd be
> wise to do the same.

Is there a way to propagate changes in the git repo to DJs cvs?
(short of running cvs commit in a cron job)

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-31 Thread gedau
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:56:27AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> Just FYI, turns out the place that hosts my secondary DNS was *also*
> out for the hurricane.  Not much I can do about that - my paranoia
> only goes so far ;-)
> 

I could host sec dns for the site in central Europe if that helps.


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-31 Thread DJ Delorie

Just FYI, turns out the place that hosts my secondary DNS was *also*
out for the hurricane.  Not much I can do about that - my paranoia
only goes so far ;-)


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread John Griessen

On 08/30/2011 04:14 PM, Russell Dill wrote:

I imagine I'm not the only one running a git mirror of
gedasymbols.org. If you rely on gedasymbols.org in any way, It'd be
wise to do the same.


Oh, it's getting handled by DJ doing a secondary DNS server setup
eventually.

Then the web server mirror I host will be found in an outage.
At present it serves half the requests when the main server is active.
You just never see that
as you use gedasymbols.org

John


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread Russell Dill
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak  wrote:
> Peter Clifton wrote:
>
>> Yes - I got a message from DJ saying it has knocked his power and
>> internet down. (The server lives in DJ's basement).
>>
> Time for a mirror server on a different continent?
>
> I got used to rely on the presence of gedasymbols.org. I use
> it as a hinge to distribute my geda lib to my various desktops.
> And of course lately for work on the essential lib.
>
> Git would be handy in this situation. With git everyone would
> have all information locally, including history and branches. We
> could just set up an interim repository and update the on at DJ
> when it is up again.
>

I imagine I'm not the only one running a git mirror of
gedasymbols.org. If you rely on gedasymbols.org in any way, It'd be
wise to do the same.


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter Clifton wrote:

> Yes - I got a message from DJ saying it has knocked his power and
> internet down. (The server lives in DJ's basement).
> 
Time for a mirror server on a different continent?

I got used to rely on the presence of gedasymbols.org. I use
it as a hinge to distribute my geda lib to my various desktops. 
And of course lately for work on the essential lib.

Git would be handy in this situation. With git everyone would 
have all information locally, including history and branches. We 
could just set up an interim repository and update the on at DJ
when it is up again.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread John Doty

On Aug 29, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

> Seems like I can't ping to gedasymbols.org since last night. Is the server 
> located in an area affected by the Irene storm?

Yes. New Hampshire.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie

Ah, right, my old ISP folded.  I still need to resolve that one.


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread John Griessen

On 08/29/2011 06:23 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:

It's back, but there's supposed to be a backup server on the west coast...


There is, but there's no backup DNS server, so I'm not sure you can ping
it when the main server goes down.

John


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie

It's back, but there's supposed to be a backup server on the west coast...


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 16:56 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Seems like I can't ping to gedasymbols.org since last night. Is the server 
> located in an area affected by the Irene storm? This is unfortunate, because 
> I wanted to discuss the way I do the essential library. Why do server trouble
> always happen when you need them the most ;-|

Yes - I got a message from DJ saying it has knocked his power and
internet down. (The server lives in DJ's basement).

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gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
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Seems like I can't ping to gedasymbols.org since last night. Is the server 
located in an area affected by the Irene storm? This is unfortunate, because 
I wanted to discuss the way I do the essential library. Why do server trouble
always happen when you need them the most ;-|

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-03-14 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:26:23 +, Peter Clifton wrote:

>> What about not running the server at home, but collocated at a data
>> center? THat would be somewhat easier to do.
> 
> A fine suggestion in principle - but someone would have to meet the
> costs of doing it.

The cost for web hosting got rather low in recent years. For 1.50 EUR/
month you get 3 GB space at 10 GB traffic per month (*). Included are 
many goodies that were once only available from high end providers like, 
access to mysql, postgress, php, perl and a mail system. Frequently used 
web applications like the mailman, phpBB, typo3, joomla, wordpress or 
even mantis are preinstalled. 

Of course, if you need root access to install binaries, or ssh for 
maintainance, you still have to go with premium hosting or run your own 
machine.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-03-01 Thread Florian Teply
John Griessen  wrote:
> John Griessen wrote:
>> Bob Paddock wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak 
>>>  wrote:
 gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
> 
> 
> I added an A record for DNS and the gedasymbols.org mirror in CA
>  responds briskly now from TX where I have nameservers at my virtual host
> company on my list.
> 
> Add these if you want ot use gedasymbols.org right away:
> nameservers are:
> ns1.quantact.com (76.191.252.151)
> ns2.quantact.com (64.151.119.219)
> 
> 
> When DJ's machine comes back I'll need to delete that A record
> since it's really his domain to serve DNS about.
> 
Just as a sidenote: a setup with secondary nameservers might also be
appropriate. That way even if the master nameserver goes down the zone
will be served by the secondaries (for a limited amount of time IIRC).
Doesn't help though when all A records point to offline servers...

Just my 2 cents,
Florian



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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-03-01 Thread Florian Teply
Bob Paddock  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak  
> wrote:
>>
>> gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
>> Any hint for a reason?
> 
> Blizzard in that area would be my guess.  Lots of places without power.
> 
> Someone set up a mirror in Texas at some point??
> 
How much space would such a mirror need as of now? What other
requirements? Any special software? How much load?

Just asking, as someone (I myself for example) would be willing to throw in
a dime or two, either in money or in real hardware.

Greets,
Florian



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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-28 Thread DJ Delorie

> But I'll assume you run a MySQL database and you need some data
> volume mounted as well.

Nope.

> Remote replication/high availability is quite hard to setup, because

... the two machines are in different time zones.

> To change the A record when failover happens one could do an update of
> the DNS entry at runtime. But I'm not sure if this can be done for the
> gedasymbols.org entry.

The DNS is on my machine, but my machine was the one down.

> What about not running the server at home, but collocated at a data
> center?  That would be somewhat easier to do.

Not easier.  I've done it both ways.  And colos have problems, too.


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-28 Thread DJ Delorie

> Someone else with more experience in fail-over may offer a better
> suggestion.

I suspect one solution is to have the backup DNS server have different
IP addresses than the primary DNS server.


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-28 Thread John Griessen

Christoph Lechner wrote:


I don't know what infrastructure is required for the gedasymbols web
site to work.

But I'll assume you run a MySQL database and you need some data volume
mounted as well.

Remote replication/high availability is quite hard to setup, because
it's so easy to get a what HA guys call a split brain situation: The
data on both nodes begins do diverge.



I think in this case, it's OK to not do CVS updates when DJ is offline,
thus skipping the split brain problem.
All I'd like to know is how to get decent speed of the mirror when the master
is offline.

The mirror is already in a datacenter with UPS etc.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 13:13 +0100, Christoph Lechner wrote:

> What about not running the server at home, but collocated at a data
> center? THat would be somewhat easier to do.

A fine suggestion in principle - but someone would have to meet the
costs of doing it. DJ hosts the gedasymbols.org service for free, out of
goodwill.

Perhaps there is a possibility of the gpleda.org machine being used, but
that belongs to Ales - paid for by him, not the project. There are
always costs associated with providing such services, or increasing
traffic volumes to them.


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-28 Thread Christoph Lechner
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Greg Cunningham wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 09:36 -0600, John Griessen wrote:
>> Greg Cunningham wrote:
>>> Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync & round-robin
>>> dns.
>> Rsync is being used for mirroring, but I'm not sure what the DNS setup is.
>> Ping says it is alternating.  The mirror server was quick for a while
>> after I added an A record at my hosting service's DNS server, but
>> is back to slow unresponsive, and does eventually serve pages after multiple 
>> attempts.
>>
>> How do you do round robin DNS?  I think DJs DNS server may still be on and 
>> overruling
>> mine.
>>
>> John
>>
> 
> Sorry for the delay, but I have had a major electrical re-fit at work.
> Long day...
> 
> The other guys have answered adequately.
> 
> I spoke without enough thought.  RR dns facilitates load sharing rather
> than redundancy.  Someone else with more experience in fail-over may
> offer a better suggestion.
I don't know what infrastructure is required for the gedasymbols web
site to work.

But I'll assume you run a MySQL database and you need some data volume
mounted as well.

Remote replication/high availability is quite hard to setup, because
it's so easy to get a what HA guys call a split brain situation: The
data on both nodes begins do diverge. Just think of one of the internet
connections going down. I can tell you from experience that split brain
is a real mess.

I've got some experience with high availability using Linux HA (now
called Pacemaker), DRBD (for the block device replication) and MySQL
replication. But in the setups I'm managing, the servers are mounted in
the same rack, with replication connection over gigabit loopback cable.

To change the A record when failover happens one could do an update of
the DNS entry at runtime. But I'm not sure if this can be done for the
gedasymbols.org entry. Of course your provider has to offer this service
to you, maybe quite expensive?

What about not running the server at home, but collocated at a data
center? THat would be somewhat easier to do.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-28 Thread Greg Cunningham
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 09:36 -0600, John Griessen wrote:
> Greg Cunningham wrote:
> > Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync & round-robin
> > dns.
> 
> Rsync is being used for mirroring, but I'm not sure what the DNS setup is.
> Ping says it is alternating.  The mirror server was quick for a while
> after I added an A record at my hosting service's DNS server, but
> is back to slow unresponsive, and does eventually serve pages after multiple 
> attempts.
> 
> How do you do round robin DNS?  I think DJs DNS server may still be on and 
> overruling
> mine.
> 
> John
> 

Sorry for the delay, but I have had a major electrical re-fit at work.
Long day...

The other guys have answered adequately.

I spoke without enough thought.  RR dns facilitates load sharing rather
than redundancy.  Someone else with more experience in fail-over may
offer a better suggestion.
  

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-27 Thread DJ Delorie

> right now, it's quick responding again.

Because my internet is back up :-)


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-27 Thread John Griessen

Dave McGuire wrote:

On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Christoph Lechner wrote:

 you

can set up multiple A records for the same name, and successive queries
return all of them rotated by one.


ok. but then you have a 50% chance to hit the dead node.


  If you have two A records, yes.


Before I added the A record coming from Quantact's DNS servers,
I got alternating dead, live, dead, live.

Is it any better to have the third A record for the mirror?
Will it cause 2 out of three live hits?

right now, it's quick responding again.

JG


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-27 Thread Dave McGuire

On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Christoph Lechner wrote:

Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync &
round-robin
dns.


Rsync is being used for mirroring, but I'm not sure what the DNS  
setup

is.
Ping says it is alternating.  The mirror server was quick for a  
while

after I added an A record at my hosting service's DNS server, but
is back to slow unresponsive, and does eventually serve pages after
multiple attempts.

How do you do round robin DNS?  I think DJs DNS server may still  
be on

and overruling
mine.


  BIND round-robins returned records automatically.  For example, you
can set up multiple A records for the same name, and successive  
queries

return all of them rotated by one.


ok. but then you have a 50% chance to hit the dead node.


  If you have two A records, yes.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-27 Thread Christoph Lechner
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Dave McGuire wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2010, at 10:36 AM, John Griessen wrote:
>>> Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync &
>>> round-robin
>>> dns.
>>
>> Rsync is being used for mirroring, but I'm not sure what the DNS setup
>> is.
>> Ping says it is alternating.  The mirror server was quick for a while
>> after I added an A record at my hosting service's DNS server, but
>> is back to slow unresponsive, and does eventually serve pages after
>> multiple attempts.
>>
>> How do you do round robin DNS?  I think DJs DNS server may still be on
>> and overruling
>> mine.
> 
>   BIND round-robins returned records automatically.  For example, you
> can set up multiple A records for the same name, and successive queries
> return all of them rotated by one.
ok. but then you have a 50% chance to hit the dead node.

I can't resolve gedasymbols.org at the moment. Timeout.

BTW I've seen professional data centers go down with a blackout.
Shouldn't happen, but the 20kV -> 400V power transformer of the whole
data center "exploded" due to a short circuit somewhere. Peaces of wire
all around the transformer, because the secondary was un-winded.
The power generators didn't start up properly, so when the UPS'
batteries were empty, the lights went out.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-27 Thread Dave McGuire

On Feb 27, 2010, at 10:36 AM, John Griessen wrote:
Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync &  
round-robin

dns.


Rsync is being used for mirroring, but I'm not sure what the DNS  
setup is.

Ping says it is alternating.  The mirror server was quick for a while
after I added an A record at my hosting service's DNS server, but
is back to slow unresponsive, and does eventually serve pages after  
multiple attempts.


How do you do round robin DNS?  I think DJs DNS server may still be  
on and overruling

mine.


  BIND round-robins returned records automatically.  For example,  
you can set up multiple A records for the same name, and successive  
queries return all of them rotated by one.


-Dave





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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-27 Thread John Griessen

Greg Cunningham wrote:

Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync & round-robin
dns.


Rsync is being used for mirroring, but I'm not sure what the DNS setup is.
Ping says it is alternating.  The mirror server was quick for a while
after I added an A record at my hosting service's DNS server, but
is back to slow unresponsive, and does eventually serve pages after multiple 
attempts.

How do you do round robin DNS?  I think DJs DNS server may still be on and 
overruling
mine.

John

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread Greg Cunningham

Winter in Pennsylvania, summer here in Tasmania.  need rsync & round-robin
dns.
-- 
Greg

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:26:02 -0500, Gene Heskett 
wrote:
> On Friday 26 February 2010, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak  
> wrote:
>>> gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
>>> Any hint for a reason?
>>
>>http://kdka.com/topstories/Northeast.snow.storm.2.1522070.html
>>
> Good luck with that Bob, I have another 10" of white stuff here since
this
> 
> time yesterday, and I'm in north central WV.  And still coming down at an

> inch plus an hour.  KDKA is about 130 miles north of me.
> 
>
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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:26:02 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

>>http://kdka.com/topstories/Northeast.snow.storm.2.1522070.html
>>
> Good luck with that Bob, I have another 10" of white stuff here since
> this time yesterday, and I'm in north central WV.  And still coming down
> at an inch plus an hour.  KDKA is about 130 miles north of me.

This is not the first time, a blizzard strikes.
Time to set up a network of equal peers? Geda and friends is certainly 
not the first to encounter such problems. Hence I guess, there are 
solutions out there. Anyone more knowledgable than me?

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 26 February 2010, Bob Paddock wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak  
wrote:
>> gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
>> Any hint for a reason?
>
>http://kdka.com/topstories/Northeast.snow.storm.2.1522070.html
>
Good luck with that Bob, I have another 10" of white stuff here since this 
time yesterday, and I'm in north central WV.  And still coming down at an 
inch plus an hour.  KDKA is about 130 miles north of me.

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread John Griessen

John Griessen wrote:

Bob Paddock wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak 
 wrote:

gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.



I added an A record for DNS and the gedasymbols.org mirror in CA
 responds briskly now from TX where I have nameservers at my virtual host
company on my list.

Add these if you want ot use gedasymbols.org right away:
nameservers are:
ns1.quantact.com (76.191.252.151)
ns2.quantact.com (64.151.119.219)


When DJ's machine comes back I'll need to delete that A record
since it's really his domain to serve DNS about.

John Griessen

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread John Griessen

Bob Paddock wrote:

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak  wrote:

gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
Any hint for a reason?


I mirror DJ's gedasymbols.org at 76.191.252.86 instead of the usual 
65.175.133.15.

DNS alternates.  Until DJ's master comes up, no CVS check out or in will work,
but downloads will every other try.  Usually.  NOt today.  Ping works 
alternating:

j...@toolbench:~$ ping gedasymbols.org
PING gedasymbols.org (76.191.252.86): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 76.191.252.86: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=62.3 ms
64 bytes from 76.191.252.86: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=60.7 ms
64 bytes from 76.191.252.86: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=73.1 ms
^C
--- gedasymbols.org ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 60.7/65.3/73.1 ms
j...@toolbench:~$ ping gedasymbols.org
PING gedasymbols.org (65.175.133.15): 56 data bytes
^C
--- gedasymbols.org ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss


I'll see what my DNS is doing for gedasymbols.org

John Griessen


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread Bob Paddock
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak  wrote:
>
> gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
> Any hint for a reason?

http://kdka.com/topstories/Northeast.snow.storm.2.1522070.html


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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread Bob Paddock
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak  wrote:
>
> gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment.
> Any hint for a reason?

Blizzard in that area would be my guess.  Lots of places without power.

Someone set up a mirror in Texas at some point??


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gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down

2010-02-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak

gedasymbols.org seems non responsive at the moment. 
Any hint for a reason?

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Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2008-12-12 Thread John Luciani
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:34 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
>
> I can't seem to connect to gedasymbols.org either through the web or cvs.
> What's going on?

There was a major ice storm in the Northeast. IIRC gedasymbols
is on DJs server which may not have power. Some parts of the Northeast
may not have power until Monday.

(* jcl *)


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gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2008-12-12 Thread David Griffith

I can't seem to connect to gedasymbols.org either through the web or cvs.
What's going on?

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