Re: gEDA-user: mail to Stephen Williams

2009-03-24 Thread Stephen Williams 

For the record, and this is the last I'll say about this, the access
list that the icarus.com mail server uses is kept copied here:

  

The policy is simple and somewhat automatic: If an IP source sends mail
to icarus.com that is clearly spam, the assumption is that the sender
is virus infected or otherwise hacked and the /24 for that host goes
right into the list. If the /16 habitually gets listed, then the whole
/16 goes into the list.

It's not completely automated because whois information from many
of the biggest places are very very very opaque.

White-listing is an option if your mail comes from a fixed IP within
an otherwise bad neighborhood. I assume that the claim here is that
setoy.chost.de is asking for white-listing. Done.

der Mouse wrote:
>> Sorry to send this via the list, but Stephens mail server blacklisted
>> one of germanys largest root server providers so direct mail doesn't
>> work.
> 
> You say that as if it were a bad thing.
> 
>> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : Client host 
>> rejected: Subnet 217.160 - Schlund - is a virus nest
> 
> Instead of casting aspersions on people with the guts to block big
> providers who deserve it, maybe you'd be better served by convincing
> said providers to be less of a "virus nest"?  (It wouldn't hurt to
> convince .de itself to be a bit more civilized whiel you're at it;
> their whois server is bizarrely broken.)
> 
> No, their being big does not earn Schlund - or .de - a free pass.  Big
> entities deserve, and need, to be held to *stricter* standards than
> small.


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Re: gEDA-user: mail to Stephen Williams

2009-03-24 Thread der Mouse 
> Sorry to send this via the list, but Stephens mail server blacklisted
> one of germanys largest root server providers so direct mail doesn't
> work.

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : Client host 
> rejected: Subnet 217.160 - Schlund - is a virus nest

Instead of casting aspersions on people with the guts to block big
providers who deserve it, maybe you'd be better served by convincing
said providers to be less of a "virus nest"?  (It wouldn't hurt to
convince .de itself to be a bit more civilized whiel you're at it;
their whois server is bizarrely broken.)

No, their being big does not earn Schlund - or .de - a free pass.  Big
entities deserve, and need, to be held to *stricter* standards than
small.

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gEDA-user: mail to Stephen Williams

2009-03-24 Thread Sascha Silbe 

Hi!

Sorry to send this via the list, but Stephens mail server blacklisted 
one of germanys largest root server providers so direct mail doesn't 
work.


CU Sascha

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--- Begin Message ---
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at smtp.chost.de.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

:
209.172.115.90 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : Client host 
rejected: Subnet 217.160 - Schlund - is a virus nest
Giving up on 209.172.115.90.

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Received: (qmail 31015 invoked by uid 5015); 24 Mar 2009 16:45:40 -
Received: (nullmailer pid 30984 invoked by uid 8193);
Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:44:28 -
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:44:28 +0100
From: Sascha Silbe 
To: Stephen Williams 
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog Release 0.9.1
Message-ID: <20090324164428.gb2...@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
References: <49c8ffce.7060...@icarus.com>
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In-Reply-To: <49c8ffce.7060...@icarus.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)


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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:44:14AM -0700, Stephen Williams wrote:


FYI:

> [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue 24 Mar 2009 05:42:26 PM CET)=20
> --]
> gpg: Signature made Tue 24 Mar 2009 04:44:14 PM CET using DSA key ID=20
> CD9BDE29
> gpg: Good signature from "Stephen Williams "
>> gpg: Note: This key has expired!
> Primary key fingerprint: 1969 00B2 04B3 228D D6F3  4E95 ACFB 7549 CD9B=20
> DE29
> [-- End of PGP output --]

There's no updated key on subkeys.pgp.net.

CU Sascha

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