Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-14 Thread Troy Dack
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 15:59, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 10:54:07PM -0700, Gכzim Hoxha wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I?m just trying to get my cd-rw working, I merged
> > cdbakeoven, but for some reason it didn?t work and
> > it?s hard to use.
> > 
> > I?m looking for some cd burning software that?s very
> > easy to use and nothing fancy/advanced; maybe
> > something like Easy Cd-Creater [windows]. And
> > hopefully I?ll get it working.
> 
> I don't have a CD burner, but I have 3 alphanumeric characters for ya:
> k3b.

To expand:
K3B is a KDE front end to the various command line cd burning apps that
exist.  It is quite nice to use, has a fairly simple and intuitive
layout.

As long as you have ide-scsi built into the kernel (or as modules) and
have the following on your "kernel" line in grub.conf:
hdX=ide-scsi
where X is your CD-RW, K3B and it's setup program should configure
everything for you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 10:54:07PM -0700, Gכzim Hoxha wrote:
> Hi,
> I?m just trying to get my cd-rw working, I merged
> cdbakeoven, but for some reason it didn?t work and
> it?s hard to use.
> 
> I?m looking for some cd burning software that?s very
> easy to use and nothing fancy/advanced; maybe
> something like Easy Cd-Creater [windows]. And
> hopefully I?ll get it working.

I don't have a CD burner, but I have 3 alphanumeric characters for ya:
k3b.
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[gentoo-user] cd-burning

2003-06-14 Thread Gëzim
Hi,
I´m just trying to get my cd-rw working, I merged
cdbakeoven, but for some reason it didn´t work and
it´s hard to use.

I´m looking for some cd burning software that´s very
easy to use and nothing fancy/advanced; maybe
something like Easy Cd-Creater [windows]. And
hopefully I´ll get it working.

Thanks,

Zim

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB CF reader hotplug mounting

2003-06-14 Thread James Michael Fultz
* Chris Bare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [14 Jun 2003 11:51]:
[ ... ]
> Are you saying it's getting assigned a different sg number? I don't
> think that's the problem, becuase I can do mount twice in a row and the
> first fails but the second successes. I don't change anything between
> the 2 tries.

I have a Targus USB Go Anywhere: a USB keychain drive.  I've found that
if I have the kernel's SCSI disk support compiled statically, each
successive hotplug of the device will cause it to be assigned a new
device number (sda1, sda2, etc.).  However, if SCSI disk support is
compiled as a module (sd_mod), this problem doesn't occur.  I have to
include sd_mod in `/etc/modules.autoload' in this case.  It will not be
automatically loaded for whatever reason.

I know that this is a kluge, but it works well enough unless you must
have static SCSI disk support (booting from a SCSI disk, for instance).
Hope this helps.

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[gentoo-user] Game compilation problems - Chromium & Sniper

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
I've tried to emerge chromium and orbital-eunuchs-sniper.

Chromium works, but with no audio - it complains that there was some
error in the audio check process and gives up on it (works fine besides
that). My audio setup is a simple one: OSS es1371 (Creative Vibra 128),
no ALSA. I compiled with USE flags esd and arts, tried running with artsd
running, with esd running, with neither running... nothing. Audio
everywhere else is just fine - xmms, frozen-bubble, zsnes,
wolfenstein_et.

The problem with orbital-eunuchs-sniper is worse: It shows up a black
window and changes the cursor to a round crosshair, and after about 1.2
seconds it disappears and segfaults with the SDL parachute.

The only thing I can think of is that I recently upgraded my kernel from
gentoo-source-2.4.20-r2 to gentoo-source-2.4.20-r5, and enabled preempt.
Nothing should be wrong with the config, as I used "make oldconfig", and
I haven't been having problems otherwise.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo/m68k

2003-06-14 Thread Lloyd I Freese Jr
On Saturday 14 June 2003 11:00 pm, Zach Lowry wrote:

All I can say is kick ass! I have a bunch of old m68k Macs I'd love to put to 
a good use. Even though my first Unix was NetBSD on a Mac IIx I'm a Linux 
head and I would love to be able to run my favorite distro on those old Macs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Norberto BENSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Ben Sparks}
Sunday 15 June 2003 07:03 am

> > And don't forget the number 1 requirement for this ebuild - at least
> > 2Gig freespace in your /tmp directory or fs!  The number 2 requirement,
> > of course, is several days worth of patience.
>
> Days?  I just emerged 1.0.3 yesterday while I was at work, took only
> about 8-9 hours.  I'm not sure if it makes a difference but I did
> compile from the console with no X running.  Athlon XP 2800+ nForce2
> 1gig PC2700 DDR.

As I said before: It took 9 hours on a Pentium 3 1GHz 256MB. I was running 
KDE, listen to XMMS (ogg mostly) and compiling OOo 1.0.3 on a screen session.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge libgsf-1.8.1 Problem, and hassle workaround

2003-06-14 Thread Rod Smart
   Actually this wasn't just in this library, I found this same problem 
in several of the gnome library upgrades (and new installs)

Rod Smart wrote:

   Hello.

   Whats changed in the emerging of libgsf-1.8.1?

   It seems that soon after the archive is extracted, the 
libgsf-1.8.1/doc/html directory that is created from the archive is 
erased.

   When you build this program, it tries to install "index.sgml" and 
as the directory had been erased, the file no longer exists...

   My fix..

   1/. emerge libgsf
   2/.  after archive has been unpackaged
   3/. copy contents of directory to a secure location (away from 
install dir)
   4/. emerge libgsf
   5/.  in the "installation phase" of the emerge process
   6/. cp -rf /html   -> back to original location
   7/. fg (resume the haulted process)

   The steps above worked and installed the package, so why has this 
version actually erase the archive "doc" directory after extraction?

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[gentoo-user] Dependancy checking?

2003-06-14 Thread Rod Smart
   How deep or how far are dependancies checked?

   I just completed a ...   emerge -u world  where ImageMagick was 
upgraded from 5.5.5 -> 5.5.6 and dvdrip was also upgraded, unfortunatly, 
transcode was not recompiled as it had not changed in versions.

   This caused a BIG problem, as the libMagic library 
(/usr/lib/libMagick) had gone from 5.5.5 - 5.5.6 and the 5.5.5 version 
was unmerged, transcode programs were still trying to referance to the 
older 5.5.5.so.0 library.

   So this brings me to ask why, if some files are "Dependant" upon 
certain version of lib's that they are not recompiled if the libs change...

   ie.

   if ( -e ) then emerge program name

   Or, "if" this program is installed and a lib gets updated then this 
program should be linked into the "ebuilds" so that program is also 
updated with the new lib's...

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo/m68k

2003-06-14 Thread Zach Lowry
 
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Hello Everyone!

This is to let everyone on these list know about my progress
concerning Gentoo/m68k. I have been working for the past month on the
port and have made signifigant progress. Portage is working, and a
Stage1 has been built. However, I was overzealous with my CFLAGS and
added -O3, which made my Stage1 chroot do odd things. 

Then, I decided to rebuild the entire system, but Debian's gcc
package broke, which had me cursing for about 2 weeks. I had glibc
builds failing left and right. (Well, actually, only one failed every
day, since I'm on a 33MHz machine. :)

Anyhow, that's all fixed now, and I hope to have an official stage1
tarball ready soon. What this e-mail is for is to hopefully gather
interest in the port so that the powers that be may make it an
official Gentoo architecture. I realize that m68k is 10-years old,
but it still has several uses, and Gentoo can fulfil those uses quite
nicely. I have two Sun 3/80s that serve as DNS for me, and a Performa
550 as a NTP server, A Quadra 660AV for video, etc. As the Monty
Python line goes, "They're Not Dead Yet!"

With Gentoo, we'll be able to squeeze every last bit of performance
out of these old beasts, as well as trim down the distribution to a
minimum, lending itself to netbooding and embedded work. m68k
hardware covers a vast landscape, including but not limited to
Macintosh, NeXT, Sun3, HP300, Amiga, and Atari. These machines were
high-end at the time, and can still be put to good use. 

Thanks for reading, and if you're interested in the work I've done,
please reply, so I can know that what I've done is worth releasing,
and the fine folks at Gentoo can know that m68k is a platform worth
supporting. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Well, we don't want the LiveCD stuff baked into the Gentoo source - or any 
kernel.  The point of the kernel building section is to produce a kernel for 
our systems - not a generic, safe, will work anywhere one.  To make a useful 
kernel  means we select things like file systems, peripheral  support, etc.  
In my case I don't use gentoo-sources but run xfs-sources because I want xfs 
support.  I also have different peripherals, processors, and motherboards 
then you or others do so I need to select different options to make the 
kernel useful.  


> Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > Per the Install docs - make sure experimental options is checked.
>
> I hate to say this, but can't these LiveCD default settings be baked into
> the gentoo-source kernel image so we aren't always stumbling against the
> same problems over and over again?
>
> Or perhaps we could clarify in the documents.  devfs isn't nearly as clear
> as how to chroot, for example.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cron & emerge tips?

2003-06-14 Thread Tracy McKibben
Dhruba Bandopadhyay said:
>

Some great replies.  Seems like the general consensus is that automatic
updates are not a good idea, and I can certainly understand the reasoning
for that.  I've just finished putting Dhruba's script in place, seems to
work fine.

Thanks for the tips!


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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Allison
Andrei Ivanov wrote:
emerge -e world

Thanks!

I'll see you in a couple of days  :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Allison
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Per the Install docs - make sure experimental options is checked.



I hate to say this, but can't these LiveCD default settings be baked into the 
gentoo-source kernel image so we aren't always stumbling against the same 
problems over and over again?

Or perhaps we could clarify in the documents.  devfs isn't nearly as clear as 
how to chroot, for example.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Having 2 cablemodems?

2003-06-14 Thread Jorge Herrera
Title: Message



Take a 
look at 
Nano-Howto to use more than one independent Internet 
connection. http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano.txt
 
I have 
not tried this with gentoo, but it worked when I tried it a while back (had a 
Mandrake box doing virus filtering for email and http traffic, as well as load 
balancing using two T1 connections to the internet).
worked 
well.
 
-Jorge 




From: Keith Hamilton 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:52 
AMTo: 'Gentoo'

Hi,
 
    I 
have 2 cable modems and I want to combine them together with Gentoo and have 
Gentoo manage packets between the two nic's and combine the bandwidth for the 
network.  Is this possible?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kylix 3 problems

2003-06-14 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 17:53, Simon Mushi wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I just wanted to know if anyone has managed to get Kylix 3 running. I
> downloaded the binaries... ran the installer fine... but when i
> execute the program... my system totally freezes on the Kylix splash
> screen...i dunno if it is a permissions issue over some files.
>
> Any suggestions are unbelievable welcome!
>
I just downloaded the kylix3_open.tar.gz and k3_open_update_2.tar.gz, 
ran the installer as non-root, and it seems to work OK.

I don't suppose I'll use it much though, as the free version _still_ has 
no database support.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-14 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:43:37PM +0100, bryn wrote:
> 
> >Actually, those are native threads, unless you have an old JVM.
> >Linux lists all threads in the output of ps aux.  The only way I
> >know to tell when they are actually threads in the same process
> >is that a lot of the stats reported (memory size, resident
> >memory, etc.) are identical.  I haven't looked carefully at the
> >ps man page in a while, though.
> >
> >- richard
> >
> 
> ps -ax --forest
> 
> gives a tree for each process group
> 
>  - Bryn

Sweet!  Thanks!

- richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] make bzimage problem

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Ouch!  I type bzimage once too .  That's how we remember things!


> On Saturday 14 June 2003 02:58 pm, Norberto BENSA wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Brett I. Holcomb}
> > Saturday 14 June 2003 02:53 pm
> >
> > > That's bxImage (capital I).
> >
> > Ouch!!! bzImage ;-)
> >
> > Norberto
>
> I fought with that myself for a day and a half on my first Gentoo kernel
> build. I was composing an email to the list when I saw the problem. I
> discarded the email and promptly typed "make bxImage"
>
> Thanks for the memories Brett

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Re: [gentoo-user] make bzimage problem

2003-06-14 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 14 June 2003 02:58 pm, Norberto BENSA wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Brett I. Holcomb}
> Saturday 14 June 2003 02:53 pm
>
> > That's bxImage (capital I).
>
> Ouch!!! bzImage ;-)
>
> Norberto

I fought with that myself for a day and a half on my first Gentoo kernel 
build. I was composing an email to the list when I saw the problem. I 
discarded the email and promptly typed "make bxImage" 

Thanks for the memories Brett

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-14 Thread bryn

Actually, those are native threads, unless you have an old JVM.
Linux lists all threads in the output of ps aux.  The only way I
know to tell when they are actually threads in the same process
is that a lot of the stats reported (memory size, resident
memory, etc.) are identical.  I haven't looked carefully at the
ps man page in a while, though.
- richard

ps -ax --forest

gives a tree for each process group

 - Bryn

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[gentoo-user] Evolution 1.2 help menu

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I've installed evolution 1.2 and find that nothing on the help menu works.  
MozillaFirebird is my browser and it works everywhere else.   I use xfce 
3.8.18 for the desktop and got links in email working by adjusting the 
set-show entry in ~/.gnome/Gnome but setting the show-help entry to use 
Firebird opens Firebird produces a "ghelp" protocol not supported"  and then 
a blank url and page.

Any ideas on how I get help working in Evolution?

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a minimum backup?

2003-06-14 Thread Matthew Gatto
* Rasmus Wiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03.06.10 18:15]:
> Hi.
> 
> I'm one of those guys who live on the edge (i.e. I don't back things
> up), but I'll soon send my laptop away for repair (the CPU has fried the
> fan bearings so they sound awful) so I'd like to do some kind of minimum
> backup.
> 
> I don't feel any need to have the system up and running quickly, should
> anything fail, all I want is to save enough of the config so I can
> rebuild the system if I need to. I use the machine as a workstation, so
> I don't think there are many important config files outside /etc. 
> 
> If I back up all home directories, /etc, the kernel config file and
> /var/cache/edb/world, would that be enough? If I had to restore, I
> suppose I'd do a stage1 install, copy the old /etc stuff inte /etc and
> then do
> 
> emerge < world
> 
> And reinstall the home directories.
> 
> Would this give me my old system back?

Here's what I backup in my non-entire-system backups:
/boot/grub/grub.conf
/etc
/home
/root 
/usr/src/linux/.config
/var/spool/cron/crontabs 
/var/spool/mail 
/var/cache/edb/world 

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Ben Sparks
> And don't forget the number 1 requirement for this ebuild - at least
> 2Gig freespace in your /tmp directory or fs!  The number 2 requirement,
> of course, is several days worth of patience.

Days?  I just emerged 1.0.3 yesterday while I was at work, took only
about 8-9 hours.  I'm not sure if it makes a difference but I did
compile from the console with no X running.  Athlon XP 2800+ nForce2
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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 14 June 2003 19:50, Juan Ángel wrote:
> It matters, a bit .
> It takes more CPU to "print" the output in X than in a normal console, and
> more in kde than in X, and .

... and antialised fonts make it even worse ;o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-14 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Saturday 14 June 2003 12:02, Owen Gunden wrote:
> I'm curious why Exim never made it into this discussion.  Is it considered
> to be in a different class of MTAs?  Nobody's using Exim in a large
> production enviroment?
>
> Owen
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Correct.  I have never used Exim in a production enviorment, but my Postfix 
server handles the LKML, GDML, GUML, and GSAML mailings to my box just fine.  
It also handles the mail for 4 domains.  It hasn't hicoughed yet.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-14 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 10:34, Bobby R. Cox wrote:
> I thought I would poll the masses and see what the groups take is on
> these two.  I am currently contemplating either of the two for mail at
> the ISP level. I like Postfix, but have been told Qmail is the way to
> go.
>
> What do you think? Pros and Cons for both.
>
> Bobby R. Cox

This is not a wise topic.  This is like a "emacs vs. vim" discussion.  You're 
bound to get so many biases in this topic with a good and solid conclusion 
that it would just be pointless.

Just for the rcord, however, I used QMail for a while then switched over to 
Postfix with virtual mailboxes.  I find that the latter is much easier to 
maintain.  If you have a day to spend on getting Postfix with virtual 
mailboxes set up then working properly, that would be the route that I would 
suggest.  Otherwise QMail is easier, IMHO, to configure (especially when 
using something like webmin).

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Re: [gentoo-user] RPM's and Gentoo

2003-06-14 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Friday 13 June 2003 15:24, Larry Wright wrote:
> This may be a silly question, but if there is a piece of software that is
> only available as an RPM, how do I go about installing that on my Gentoo
> box?
>
> TIA
>
> Larry
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I somewhat doubt that the software is only available through an RPM.  RPMs are 
_usually_ binary only, in which case the software would not be GPL'd.  
(Non-GPL software for Linux is generally rare.)  What specific 
package/software are you talking about?

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 16:37:41 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 10:25:45AM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote:
> > 
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:38:36AM -0700, G?zim
> > > Hoxha wrote:
> > > > I?ve got a 1400Mhz AMD Athlon computer with
> > > 256RAM,
> > > > and it?s been compiling from 8pm last night an is
> > > > still compiling today [10:35am], I don?t know
> > > what?s
> > > > going on. Even the gentoo installation didn?t take
> > > > this long!
> > > > This could be because I?m doing from the kde
> > > konsole...
> > > 
> > > Why should that matter?
> > 
> > Well...doesn?t it take memory to run kde?!
> 
> Is memory showing up as a limiter? Is the system paging a lot?
> 
> Sure, a modern GUI is a memory pig, but much of it is paged out if
> you're not keeping it busy. I doubt your compiler is starving. 

And don't forget the number 1 requirement for this ebuild - at least
2Gig freespace in your /tmp directory or fs!  The number 2 requirement,
of course, is several days worth of patience.

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[gentoo-user] Kylix 3 problems

2003-06-14 Thread Simon Mushi
Greetings all,

I just wanted to know if anyone has managed to get Kylix 3 running. I
downloaded the binaries... ran the installer fine... but when i execute
the program... my system totally freezes on the Kylix splash screen...i
dunno if it is a permissions issue over some files.

Any suggestions are unbelievable welcome!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with running quake3

2003-06-14 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Saturday 14 June 2003 12:24, Alexander Netopier Leonov wrote:
> Hello
> When i try run quake3 system return this error:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] quake3 $ ./q3ded
> Q3 1.32b linux-i386 Nov 14 2002
> - FS_Startup -
> Current search path:
> /home/users/netopier/.q3a/baseq3
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak8.pk3 (9 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak7.pk3 (4 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak6.pk3 (64 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak5.pk3 (7 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak4.pk3 (272 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak3.pk3 (4 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak2.pk3 (148 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3/pak1.pk3 (26 files)
> /opt/quake3/baseq3
> ./q3ded/baseq3
>
> --
> 534 files in pk3 files
>
> Running in restricted demo mode.
>
> - FS_Startup -
> Current search path:
> /home/users/netopier/.q3a/demota
> /opt/quake3/demota
> ./q3ded/demota
>
> --
> 534 files in pk3 files
> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] quake3 $
>
> What is default.cfg? Can you help me please? This game is very cool & I
> want play it :-) Thanks a lot.
> BTW: I have original cd quake3

You need to copy over your pak0.pak from your CD or a previous install.  If 
you do not have this file, go buy Q3 because you'll need a unique (and vaild) 
CD-key to play online, anyways.

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Re: [gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird Nightly Builds

2003-06-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:56:29 -0700
Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all-
> 
> I have the 0.6 MozillaFirebird installed from the ebuild but would
> like to begin using the nightly drops as well.  Normally, on debian, I
> can just download the build and untar it in /usr/local and begin to
> use it. When I do this with mozilla emerged it wants to find the
> MozillaFirebird-bin in /usr/lib/mozilla instead of the directory it is
> really in.  I think that this is because of environmental variables
> that Mozilla sets for itself.
> 
> How do people use the nightly binary builds on Gentoo?  
> 

Perhaps all you need is this little script I got from another g2 user. 
Just modify /usr/local/phoenix to /usr/local/.  Name it
whatever you like and put it in your path and make executable.


#!/bin/sh

export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME="/usr/local/phoenix"
PHOENIX_PATH="/usr/local/phoenix"

# Seems like pidof resides in /sbin on some boxes
# Modifying the PATH to reflect that
PATH="/sbin:${PATH}"

if [ -z "`pidof phoenix-bin`" ]; then
# No phoenix running
${PHOENIX_PATH}/phoenix $@
else
# phoenix running - open a new window
${PHOENIX_PATH}/phoenix -remote "openURL($@ ,new-window)"
#- or - ${PHOENIX_PATH}/phoenix -remote "openURL($@,new-tab)"
i

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Re: [gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird Nightly Builds

2003-06-14 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Saturday 14 June 2003 12:56, Michael Perry wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> I have the 0.6 MozillaFirebird installed from the ebuild but would like
> to begin using the nightly drops as well.  Normally, on debian, I can
> just download the build and untar it in /usr/local and begin to use it.
> When I do this with mozilla emerged it wants to find the
> MozillaFirebird-bin in /usr/lib/mozilla instead of the directory it is
> really in.  I think that this is because of environmental variables that
> Mozilla sets for itself.
>
> How do people use the nightly binary builds on Gentoo?
>
> Thanks!

Upgrading your Firebird nightly is rather pointless, IMHO.  Why not just get a 
build that works and use it?  Usually the nightly builds are only going to 
mess things up, anyways. 

Also, binaries somewhat defeat the whole purpose of Gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread nmeyers
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 10:25:45AM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote:
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:38:36AM -0700, G?zim
> > Hoxha wrote:
> > > I?ve got a 1400Mhz AMD Athlon computer with
> > 256RAM,
> > > and it?s been compiling from 8pm last night an is
> > > still compiling today [10:35am], I don?t know
> > what?s
> > > going on. Even the gentoo installation didn?t take
> > > this long!
> > > This could be because I?m doing from the kde
> > konsole...
> > 
> > Why should that matter?
> 
> Well...doesn?t it take memory to run kde?!

Is memory showing up as a limiter? Is the system paging a lot?

Sure, a modern GUI is a memory pig, but much of it is paged out if you're
not keeping it busy. I doubt your compiler is starving. Try running
"top"... how do the numbers compare between the VIRT and RES columns? My
guess is you'll find that they're identical for your compiler processes -
they're getting all the resident memory they're asking for.

As for the other performance issue - the cost of sending your stdout to a
terminal emulator running under X instead of a raw console... I'm pretty
sure that cost is lost in the noise. The openoffice build is taking a
long time because it's a huge chunk of software.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting hotplug to work?

2003-06-14 Thread Ville Leskinen
After browsing through lkml for a while I've noticed that a lot of people are 
experiencing same kind of troubles I'm fighting with the latest developement 
sources. There seems to be some problems with scsi drivers. I'll do some more 
research in the morning.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with running quake3

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
In Q2 it's a file that sets some default configuration.  Check your CD for it 
or if you have run it on Windows check there.

> Hello
> When i try run quake3 system return this error:
> --
> 534 files in pk3 files
> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] quake3 $
>
> What is default.cfg? Can you help me please? This game is very cool & I
> want play it :-) Thanks a lot.
> BTW: I have original cd quake3

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[gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird Nightly Builds

2003-06-14 Thread Michael Perry
Hi all-

I have the 0.6 MozillaFirebird installed from the ebuild but would like
to begin using the nightly drops as well.  Normally, on debian, I can
just download the build and untar it in /usr/local and begin to use it.
When I do this with mozilla emerged it wants to find the
MozillaFirebird-bin in /usr/lib/mozilla instead of the directory it is
really in.  I think that this is because of environmental variables that
Mozilla sets for itself.

How do people use the nightly binary builds on Gentoo?  

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] strange upgrade?

2003-06-14 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Sami Näätänen wrote:

 
> It only wants to upgrade the 2.x series of qt as the line further in the 
> list shows. These two versions can coexist.
> 
> > [ebuildU ] x11-libs/qt-2.3.2-r1 [3.1.2-r3]
> 
> > [ebuild   R  ] x11-libs/qt-3.1.2-r3


I don't how I missed that, guess I'm tired. I wonder why it wants two 
versions, but that is another matter.
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[gentoo-user] MSI K7D Motherboard problems

2003-06-14 Thread Lotas T Smartman



I just bought me a MSI K7D Master L motherboard and 
when trying to boot Gentoo 1.4 RC1 CD (Only one i have burned at the moment) it 
comes up with a partition check and freezes. it runs windows no problem, running 
2003 server now, had XP on a while ago. anyway, i tried redhat 9.0, it boots and 
starts installing, but i get a kernel panic, but no info because its in gui and 
no logs are created since its an install. suse 7.3 eval boot CD works grand, no 
problems what so ever. so what can i do? i have 1.4Rc4 downloaded, but i havent 
burned it yet. will soon. is there any problems with this board? i havent 
updated the BIOS, its the one out of the box (not sure version number now). i 
have the new bios here, but havent installed it yet. sorry about the 
ramblingins. any ideas though? I really want to run linux on this box. PS. 
only 1 CPU in it at the moment. waiting on my MP chips. its just a standard 
non MP chip. could that be a problem? Also i hear kernel 2.4.21 is out. would 
that fix the problem?
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Re: [gentoo-user] strange upgrade?

2003-06-14 Thread Sami Näätänen
On Saturday 14 June 2003 22:32, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> I was going to reemerge  xfree+qt+kde, in a desperate attempt to get
> truetype fonts working (it seems to be my fate not to make it). The
> output of emerge -p seems to imply that replacing qt-3.1.2-r3 by
> qt-2.3.2-r1 is an upgrade (it should be "ebuild UD ...", according to
> man emerge). Can somebody enlighten me?

It only wants to upgrade the 2.x series of qt as the line further in the 
list shows. These two versions can coexist.

> [ebuildU ] x11-libs/qt-2.3.2-r1 [3.1.2-r3]

> [ebuild   R  ] x11-libs/qt-3.1.2-r3



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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Eric J. Lawrence
I have a p2-350 with 256 meg RAM. Openoffice took 56 hours to compile.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:17:39PM +0300, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:59:40PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have a friend that recently compiled OO on his 400mhz AMD w/ 128MB of
> > RAM. It took either 3 or 5 days ... we lost track :)
> > 
> > ~Mike
> 
> That's encouraging. I have a PIII 450mhz... oh well, at least I have
> 256MB of RAM.
> 
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[gentoo-user] strange upgrade?

2003-06-14 Thread Jorge Almeida
I was going to reemerge  xfree+qt+kde, in a desperate attempt to get 
truetype fonts working (it seems to be my fate not to make it). The output 
of emerge -p seems to imply that replacing qt-3.1.2-r3 by qt-2.3.2-r1 is 
an upgrade (it should be "ebuild UD ...", according to man emerge). Can 
somebody enlighten me?

 localhost root # emerge -p xfree qt kde

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R  ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2
[ebuild  N   ] dev-python/egenix-mx-base-2.0.4
[ebuild  N   ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.6
[ebuild  N   ] dev-java/ant-1.5.3-r4
[ebuild  N   ] dev-db/postgresql-7.3.3
[ebuild  N   ] dev-db/mysql-3.23.56
[ebuildU ] dev-perl/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r5 [6.05-r4]
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Net-Daemon-0.36-r1
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.82
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Test-Harness-2.28
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Storable-2.07
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/PlRPC-0.2016-r1
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/DBI-1.37
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.1027
[ebuildU ] x11-libs/qt-2.3.2-r1 [3.1.2-r3]
[ebuild  N   ] dev-db/unixODBC-2.0.6
[ebuild   R  ] x11-libs/qt-3.1.2-r3
[ebuild   R  ] kde-base/kde-3.1.2

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Re: [gentoo-user] strange screeen problem

2003-06-14 Thread MAL
blade- wrote:
Hi all,

I am having a strange problem with my moniter in gentoo, never happens 
in windows or happened in mandrake.
If I put my cursor to the far left of the screen, it sort of warps and a 
dark staticy shadow goes right across the screen, about a cm thick.
The cursor is pulled out of the screen and strechted, very hard to explain.
It only happens when I put it right on the left edge and goes away when 
I remove it from the edge, not a big problem but just want to see if 
anyone has expirenced simular and fixed it.
Try using your monitor controls to adjust the monitor, by moving the 
picture right.

It /sounds/ like you're seeing the kind of ghosting some monitors 
produce when they wrap an image.

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[gentoo-user] Problem with running quake3

2003-06-14 Thread Alexander Netopier Leonov
Hello
When i try run quake3 system return this error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] quake3 $ ./q3ded
Q3 1.32b linux-i386 Nov 14 2002
- FS_Startup -
Current search path:
/home/users/netopier/.q3a/baseq3
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak8.pk3 (9 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak7.pk3 (4 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak6.pk3 (64 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak5.pk3 (7 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak4.pk3 (272 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak3.pk3 (4 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak2.pk3 (148 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3/pak1.pk3 (26 files)
/opt/quake3/baseq3
./q3ded/baseq3
--
534 files in pk3 files
Running in restricted demo mode.

- FS_Startup -
Current search path:
/home/users/netopier/.q3a/demota
/opt/quake3/demota
./q3ded/demota
--
534 files in pk3 files
Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] quake3 $
What is default.cfg? Can you help me please? This game is very cool & I 
want play it :-) Thanks a lot.
BTW: I have original cd quake3

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-14 Thread Owen Gunden
I'm curious why Exim never made it into this discussion.  Is it considered
to be in a different class of MTAs?  Nobody's using Exim in a large
production enviroment?

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Re: [gentoo-user] make bzimage problem

2003-06-14 Thread Norberto BENSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Brett I. Holcomb}
Saturday 14 June 2003 02:53 pm

> That's bxImage (capital I).
>

Ouch!!! bzImage ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] stop & continue merging

2003-06-14 Thread Norberto BENSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saturday 14 June 2003 01:23 pm

> Control-z is typically suspend. ...
> But if you find it works, by all means let me know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le samedi 14 juin à 16 h. 00, Tom Wesley a écrit notamment:
Content-Description: signed data
> On Saturday 14 June 2003 15:48, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I am happy to find this thread because I have a strange problem:
> > This morning I recompiled my kernel (I used stage3 default), and kept the
> > old one in /boot in case my setup didnt work.
> > When I rebooted I had an error message telling me that devfs was missing
> > and then I rebooted in the old kernel and tried to reconfigure.
> > But using either make config or make menuconfig, I cant find the options
> > about devfs!!
> > Supposedly they should be in "file system", after the "proc file system
> > support". And when I quit make menuconfig and check for DEVFS in .config,
> > I get:
> > # CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set
> > # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set
> > # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set
> > How can force these options to appear in make menuconfig?
> > Thanks
> 
> Select to view experiemental items from the start.

 Should have checked that! Thanks,



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Re: [gentoo-user] vim-like filemanager

2003-06-14 Thread Owen Gunden
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:26:36PM +0300, Theofilos Intzoglou wrote:
> If I recall correctly there already is a file manager in vim. It is one
> of the modules that you can load at any time on vim. However I cannot
> help you with the how you do it because there has been some time since I
> read that in vim's manual (and I haven't reached that stage of
> addictiveness to vim to use its keybinds to a filemanager :-P).

:help file-browser

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:59:40PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a friend that recently compiled OO on his 400mhz AMD w/ 128MB of
> RAM. It took either 3 or 5 days ... we lost track :)
> 
> ~Mike

That's encouraging. I have a PIII 450mhz... oh well, at least I have
256MB of RAM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

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Re: [gentoo-user] make bzimage problem

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That's bxImage (capital I).

> Hi,
>
> This is probably a simple oversight, but I have tried installing x86 rc4 on
> my pc from stage 1 a few times now, and when I get to compiling the kernel
> (have tried vanilla, gaming and gentoo), I use the commands, make
> menuconfig make dep make clean; which work fine but when I try make bzimage
> I get an error stating that there is no rule defined for make target
> 'bzimage''.
>
> Brian

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Re: [gentoo-user] stop & continue merging

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Same here.  Nothing magic about it - it's a Linux feature.

> On Saturday 14 June 2003 17:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Control-z is typically suspend. To later be resumed with the fg command.
> > That might work. I've never suspended a compile myself so I can't say for
> > sure. I use control-z a lot if I am reading my email and need to check
> > something. It may or may not have deeper complication with more exotic
> > programs. But if you find it works, by all means let me know.
>
> works all the time for me

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Right now the docs (x86 install) say to check experimental reports and select 
/dev and auto mount at boot.  That's how I've done it since I've started and 
it works.  At one time when the dinasours were around it was probably still 
experimental for Gentoo and they didn't want it started up automatically so 
you could probably still recover.


> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:20:34 +0200
>
> Mika Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There are *two* relevant options in the kernel config:
> > [*] /dev file system support (EXPERIMENTAL)
> > [*]   Automatically mount at boot
> >
> > (These are called CONFIG_DEVFS_FS and CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT in your
> > .config file)
> >
> > If you have checked the first but not the second adding "devfs=mount"
> > to your kernel commandline in menu.lst will help.
>
> OK, you have my curiosity aroused.  I've been running gentoo since the
> days when dinosaurs roamed the earth.  In the early days, the
> instructions were NOT TO SELECT CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT, and devfs didn't
> work well for gentoo if that option was checked.
>
> I've been running gentoo 1.4_rc? since it came out - current on the
> stable tree as of last week - and I've never ever checked
> CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT in my kernel.  Devfs works just fine.
>
> What's the real story?

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Per the Install docs - make sure experimental options is checked.


> Hello all,
> I am happy to find this thread because I have a strange problem:
> This morning I recompiled my kernel (I used stage3 default), and kept the
> old one in /boot in case my setup didnt work.
> When I rebooted I had an error message telling me that devfs was missing
> and then I rebooted in the old kernel and tried to reconfigure.
> But using either make config or make menuconfig, I cant find the options
> about devfs!!
> Supposedly they should be in "file system", after the "proc file system
> support". And when I quit make menuconfig and check for DEVFS in .config,
> I get:
> # CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set
> How can force these options to appear in make menuconfig?
> Thanks
>
> Le vendredi 13 juin à 10 h. 07, brett holcomb a écrit notamment:
> > What devfs problem do you mean?  The install docs I used
> > for x86 told me I needed to make sure devfs and autostart
> > at boot were checked.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:17:18 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >>You also need to build the kernel with autostart on boot
> > >>for devfs.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >I think there is already a bug report on this devfs
> > >problem.
> > >But it would save a lot of time to have it outlined in
> > >the Installation Docs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] make bzimage problem

2003-06-14 Thread darkwulv
Fairly easy solution, just type bzImage (the 'I' is capitalized).

-Bill
On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 01:30 PM, Brian Tyndall wrote:

Hi,
 
This is probably a simple oversight, but I have tried installing x86 rc4 on my pc from stage 1 a few times now, and when I get to compiling the kernel (have tried vanilla, gaming and gentoo), I use the commands, make menuconfig make dep make clean; which work fine but when I try make bzimage I get an error stating that there is no rule defined for make target 'bzimage''.
 
Brian


[gentoo-user] make bzimage problem

2003-06-14 Thread Brian Tyndall



Hi,
 
This is probably a simple oversight, but I 
have tried installing x86 rc4 on my pc from stage 1 a few times now, and 
when I get to compiling the kernel (have tried vanilla, gaming and gentoo), I 
use the commands, make menuconfig make dep make clean; which work fine but when 
I try make bzimage I get an error stating that there is no rule defined for 
make target 'bzimage''.
 
Brian


Re: [gentoo-user] USB CF reader hotplug mounting

2003-06-14 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Chris Bare wrote:

This problem occurs in case you're using more than one usb mass storage 
device (USBMSD)
or more than one type of memory media in your reader. Is'nt it your case 
? (Sure yes :-) ).
   

I have only one USB device, but it has a compact flash and some other
media slot.
sg map always tells me the same thing:

gentoo usb # sg_map
# Note: the devfs pseudo file system is present
/dev/sg0  /dev/sda
/dev/sg1  /dev/sdb
sda is the CF slot.

 

For every plugged USBMSD system reserves new device, although they are 
disconected later ...
so you should remember what was where, or use monte carlo method to find 
it :-)
Any way, you have to improve your sg_map/rg_map script.

   

Are you saying it's getting assigned a different sg number? I don't
think that's the problem, becuase I can do mount twice in a row and the
first fails but the second successes. I don't change anything between
the 2 tries.
 

I meet similar problem with my photo camera ...
I have 2 Smart Media Cards ( 8MB  and 128MB) and use self made simple 
script,
which just mounts  /dev/sda1 to /mnt/foto and moves files from that dir 
(card)
to somewhere

If I run the script  first time after the boot of system with any SM 
card in camera,
the proper device is /dev/sda1 (can mount/unmount many times without 
problem).

If I now exchange the card in camera and try to mount it as /dev/sda1, 
I'll receive
the same error message as you, but if I use /dev/sdb1 everything is OK.

From your answer it's not clear if you exchange CF card or not before 
problem occurs.
I do not know what is sg_mnt  command doing (do not know it), but 
probably it is
doing something in a wrong way ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Gëzim

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:38:36AM -0700, G?zim
> Hoxha wrote:
> > I?ve got a 1400Mhz AMD Athlon computer with
> 256RAM,
> > and it?s been compiling from 8pm last night an is
> > still compiling today [10:35am], I don?t know
> what?s
> > going on. Even the gentoo installation didn?t take
> > this long!
> > This could be because I?m doing from the kde
> konsole...
> 
> Why should that matter?

Well...doesn´t it take memory to run kde?!

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread nmeyers
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:38:36AM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote:
> I?ve got a 1400Mhz AMD Athlon computer with 256RAM,
> and it?s been compiling from 8pm last night an is
> still compiling today [10:35am], I don?t know what?s
> going on. Even the gentoo installation didn?t take
> this long!
> This could be because I?m doing from the kde konsole...

Why should that matter?

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread xcentric
I have a friend that recently compiled OO on his 400mhz AMD w/ 128MB of
RAM. It took either 3 or 5 days ... we lost track :)

~Mike


On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Gëzim Hoxha wrote:

> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gëzim Hoxha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org
>
>
> --- Ben Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have also found that OOo is much more stable when
> > compiled from source
> > than when just installed with pre-compiled binaries.
> >  I have some pretty
> > aggressive Cflaggs (IMHO):
> >
> > CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
> > -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr
> > -falign-functions=64 -mfpmath=sse,387"
> >
> > And have not had any compile problems with OO,
> > however that could be
> > because the ebuild disregarded them, but whatever it
> > still compiled for
> > me.  I would like to see a 1.1beta source ebuild
> > instead of the binary
> > merge.  Good luck, also if you leave it to compile
> > at night when you
> > wake up it will be done, no lost productivity time
> > ;)
>
> I´ve got a 1400Mhz AMD Athlon computer with 256RAM,
> and it´s been compiling from 8pm last night an is
> still compiling today [10:35am], I don´t know what´s
> going on. Even the gentoo installation didn´t take
> this long!
> This could be because I´m doing from the kde konsole,
> and I was asking if someone knew if I could stop the
> compiling in the kde konsole and continue it, after I
> long out from kde in a virtual konsole(
> >
> > On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 03:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0300, Norberto
> > BENSA wrote:
> > > Content-Description: signed data
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${GXzim}
> > > > Saturday 14 June 2003 12:00 am
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I started merging openoffice and it´s really
> > taking
> > > > > it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet
> > done. My
> > > > > question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org
> > and
> > > > > download the tar ball and install it from
> > there, it
> > > > > would have take no more than 10 minuts I
> > believe. Is
> > > > > it better to merge packages than to download
> > and
> > > > > install them manually? Why does it take longer
> > to
> > > > > merge a package then to insall it from source
> > (e.g.
> > > > > openoffice)?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Errr... OOo 1.0.3-r1 took 9hs to build here
> > (p31g, 256mb)
> > > >
> > > > "emerge openoffice-bin" if you don't want to
> > wait. I did, but -bin-1.0.0 was
> > > > s slo :-/ Now 1.0.3 compiled from
> > source it really fast! :-)
> > > >
> > > > Norberto
> > >
> > > Is it really that much faster? I have a PIII
> > 450mhz machine (5 hours?
> > > heh, I wouldn't even expect KDE to compile in that
> > time), so I've been
> > > using the binary ebuilds so far. Also, IIRC,
> > compiling OO from source
> > > strips out the optimization. The OpenOffice.org
> > source is pretty
> > > fragile, and optimizations (especially GCC3's)
> > will give you a good
> > > chance of a failed compilation.
> >
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Gëzim

--- Ben Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have also found that OOo is much more stable when
> compiled from source
> than when just installed with pre-compiled binaries.
>  I have some pretty
> aggressive Cflaggs (IMHO):
> 
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr 
> -falign-functions=64 -mfpmath=sse,387"
> 
> And have not had any compile problems with OO,
> however that could be
> because the ebuild disregarded them, but whatever it
> still compiled for
> me.  I would like to see a 1.1beta source ebuild
> instead of the binary
> merge.  Good luck, also if you leave it to compile
> at night when you
> wake up it will be done, no lost productivity time
> ;) 

I´ve got a 1400Mhz AMD Athlon computer with 256RAM,
and it´s been compiling from 8pm last night an is
still compiling today [10:35am], I don´t know what´s
going on. Even the gentoo installation didn´t take
this long!
This could be because I´m doing from the kde konsole,
and I was asking if someone knew if I could stop the
compiling in the kde konsole and continue it, after I
long out from kde in a virtual konsole( 
> On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 03:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0300, Norberto
> BENSA wrote:
> > Content-Description: signed data
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${GXzim}
> > > Saturday 14 June 2003 12:00 am
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I started merging openoffice and it´s really
> taking
> > > > it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet
> done. My
> > > > question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org
> and
> > > > download the tar ball and install it from
> there, it
> > > > would have take no more than 10 minuts I
> believe. Is
> > > > it better to merge packages than to download
> and
> > > > install them manually? Why does it take longer
> to
> > > > merge a package then to insall it from source
> (e.g.
> > > > openoffice)?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Errr... OOo 1.0.3-r1 took 9hs to build here
> (p31g, 256mb)
> > > 
> > > "emerge openoffice-bin" if you don't want to
> wait. I did, but -bin-1.0.0 was 
> > > s slo :-/ Now 1.0.3 compiled from
> source it really fast! :-)
> > > 
> > > Norberto
> > 
> > Is it really that much faster? I have a PIII
> 450mhz machine (5 hours?
> > heh, I wouldn't even expect KDE to compile in that
> time), so I've been
> > using the binary ebuilds so far. Also, IIRC,
> compiling OO from source
> > strips out the optimization. The OpenOffice.org
> source is pretty
> > fragile, and optimizations (especially GCC3's)
> will give you a good
> > chance of a failed compilation.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] stop & continue merging

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Wesley
On Saturday 14 June 2003 17:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Control-z is typically suspend. To later be resumed with the fg command.
> That might work. I've never suspended a compile myself so I can't say for
> sure. I use control-z a lot if I am reading my email and need to check
> something. It may or may not have deeper complication with more exotic
> programs. But if you find it works, by all means let me know.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] stop & continue merging

2003-06-14 Thread xcentric
Control-z is typically suspend. To later be resumed with the fg command.
That might work. I've never suspended a compile myself so I can't say for
sure. I use control-z a lot if I am reading my email and need to check
something. It may or may not have deeper complication with more exotic
programs. But if you find it works, by all means let me know.

~Mike


On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Norberto BENSA wrote:

> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 02:29:26 -0300
> From: Norberto BENSA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] stop & continue merging
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${gerrynjr}
> Saturday 14 June 2003 02:14 am
>
> > Scratch that.. it's control-s!
> >
>
> Hmmm ctrl-z :-)
>
> Norberto
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything

2003-06-14 Thread xcentric
This has already been answered as emerge -e world, but I have some more
info for you. At any time if the emerge dies [or you control-c it] you can
pick up where you left off with emerge --resume. The --resume can also be
treated like a normal emerge in the sense that you can emerge --resume -p
to see what you have left.

This past week I've been rebuilding my system from GCC 2.95.3 to GCC
3.2.2. And I've already killed it and resumed it a number of times so I
could play video games :)

Good luck,
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Tom Allison wrote:

> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:06:23 -0400
> From: Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything
>
> I am slowing making some progress and am looking at some of the security
> options.
>
> I didn't put them in USE before and need to do some rebuilding.
>
> How do you tell emerge to update everything and to rebuild everything
> regardless of it's update status?
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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:36:35PM -0400, Ben Sparks wrote:
> I have also found that OOo is much more stable when compiled from source
> than when just installed with pre-compiled binaries.  I have some pretty
> aggressive Cflaggs (IMHO):
> 
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr 
> -falign-functions=64 -mfpmath=sse,387"
> 
> And have not had any compile problems with OO, however that could be
> because the ebuild disregarded them, but whatever it still compiled for
> me. I would like to see a 1.1beta source ebuild instead of the binary
> merge.  Good luck, also if you leave it to compile at night when you
> wake up it will be done, no lost productivity time ;)

Actually, I can see a 1.1 ebuild sitting here. I think I'll try it out -
I highly doubt that it'll finish at night though. As for the CFLAGS -
they're filtered out.

> 
> On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 03:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote:
> > Content-Description: signed data
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${GXzim}
> > > Saturday 14 June 2003 12:00 am
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I started merging openoffice and it´s really taking
> > > > it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet done. My
> > > > question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org and
> > > > download the tar ball and install it from there, it
> > > > would have take no more than 10 minuts I believe. Is
> > > > it better to merge packages than to download and
> > > > install them manually? Why does it take longer to
> > > > merge a package then to insall it from source (e.g.
> > > > openoffice)?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Errr... OOo 1.0.3-r1 took 9hs to build here (p31g, 256mb)
> > > 
> > > "emerge openoffice-bin" if you don't want to wait. I did, but -bin-1.0.0 was 
> > > s slo :-/ Now 1.0.3 compiled from source it really fast! :-)
> > > 
> > > Norberto
> > 
> > Is it really that much faster? I have a PIII 450mhz machine (5 hours?
> > heh, I wouldn't even expect KDE to compile in that time), so I've been
> > using the binary ebuilds so far. Also, IIRC, compiling OO from source
> > strips out the optimization. The OpenOffice.org source is pretty
> > fragile, and optimizations (especially GCC3's) will give you a good
> > chance of a failed compilation.



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[gentoo-user] 2.4.21... Dead in the water...

2003-06-14 Thread Jerry McBride

Well... with all the talk about 2.4.21 on the net and this mail list... I
grabbed a copy and started fooling around. 

BOY, did I get some odd mixed results...

Framebuffer support in this ga release is very good. I'm able to capture video
with my wingo and ctl-atl-fnc-X to a terminal and not crash the system. In
2.4.20 or any of the recent 2.4.21-rc versions... if I load a kernel with
framebuffer support in it, once I start X, I can never switch back to a
terminal or leave X without totally locking up my computer.

Other odd thing with 2.4.21, acpi or apm both fail to modprobe horribly... I'm
not able to cleanly shutdown-h without either power manager loaded. Both
compile cleanly... either as a dedicated service or with both services in one
kernel. Without a PM loaded... it's not good to turn off the computyer when I'm
done.

So, for now, I'm going back to the better debugged 2.4.20 kernel. No hassles
there except for the framebuffer problem mentioned above. 

I'd be willing to bet that 2.4.22 will be out in less time than 2.4.21 took...
Any takers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting hotplug to work?

2003-06-14 Thread Chris Bare
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm having some troubles getting hotplug to work correctly with usb-storage. 
> It apparently notices that device is plugged as /proc/scsi/usb-storage/1 
> exists:
> 
>Host scsi1: usb-storage
>Vendor: Creative Tech
>   Product: NOMAD MuVo
> Serial Number: 
>  Protocol: Transparent SCSI
> Transport: Bulk
>Quirks:
> 
> But there's no /dev/sda*, so that I could mount the device. I'm using 
> 2.5.70-mm9 with usb-storage, usbcore, uhci-hcd, scsi-disk and scsi-generic 
> compiled as modules.  Running dmesg shows this:
> 

I've just been trying to understand this too. As far as I know, you have
to use sg_map to create the /dev/sda entry. sg_map is part of sg3_utils.
I can't find an ebuild for it, but it builds from source with no
problem.

After emerging hotplug, I added the following file:

/etc/hotplug/usb/usb-storage

#!/bin/bash

exec >/tmp/hotplug 2>&1

# this fails for some mysterious reason, so we keep trying
# until it works
for ((c=10; c != 0; c--))
do
/bin/umount /mnt/photo
/usr/local/bin/sg_map
/bin/mount /mnt/photo
if [ $? == 0 ]
then
break;
else
sleep 10;
echo looping $c
fi
done
echo mount successful

find /mnt/photo -name "*.jpg" -exec cp {} /tmp \;

/bin/umount /mnt/photo


For some reason the mount doesn't always work. I'm strill trying to
figure that part out. Once it mounts, this script just copies all jpg's
to /tmp, but obviously you could do whatever you want.

I'm still trying to figure out how to know when the script is done. It
would be nice if the lights on teh CF reader would go out when it
unmounts, but that doesn't happen.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB CF reader hotplug mounting

2003-06-14 Thread Chris Bare
> This problem occurs in case you're using more than one usb mass storage 
> device (USBMSD)
> or more than one type of memory media in your reader. Is'nt it your case 
> ? (Sure yes :-) ).

I have only one USB device, but it has a compact flash and some other
media slot.

sg map always tells me the same thing:

gentoo usb # sg_map
# Note: the devfs pseudo file system is present
/dev/sg0  /dev/sda
/dev/sg1  /dev/sdb

sda is the CF slot.

> For every plugged USBMSD system reserves new device, although they are 
> disconected later ...
> so you should remember what was where, or use monte carlo method to find 
> it :-)
> Any way, you have to improve your sg_map/rg_map script.
> 

Are you saying it's getting assigned a different sg number? I don't
think that's the problem, becuase I can do mount twice in a row and the
first fails but the second successes. I don't change anything between
the 2 tries.

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:20:34 +0200
Mika Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> There are *two* relevant options in the kernel config:
> [*] /dev file system support (EXPERIMENTAL)
> [*]   Automatically mount at boot
> 
> (These are called CONFIG_DEVFS_FS and CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT in your
> .config file)
> 
> If you have checked the first but not the second adding "devfs=mount"
> to your kernel commandline in menu.lst will help.
> 

OK, you have my curiosity aroused.  I've been running gentoo since the
days when dinosaurs roamed the earth.  In the early days, the
instructions were NOT TO SELECT CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT, and devfs didn't
work well for gentoo if that option was checked.

I've been running gentoo 1.4_rc? since it came out - current on the
stable tree as of last week - and I've never ever checked
CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT in my kernel.  Devfs works just fine.

What's the real story?

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[gentoo-user] strange screeen problem

2003-06-14 Thread blade-
Hi all,

I am having a strange problem with my moniter in gentoo, never happens 
in windows or happened in mandrake.
If I put my cursor to the far left of the screen, it sort of warps and a 
dark staticy shadow goes right across the screen, about a cm thick.
The cursor is pulled out of the screen and strechted, very hard to explain.
It only happens when I put it right on the left edge and goes away when 
I remove it from the edge, not a big problem but just want to see if 
anyone has expirenced simular and fixed it.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Memory problems (compiling on a different machine)

2003-06-14 Thread John Ross Hunt
You might want to give this a try on the broken machine:

 http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/

(BadRAM: Linux kernel support for broken RAM modules)

-jrh

>   Hiya.
> 
>   My brother's computer (with Gentoo on it) has some memory 
> problems quite 
> probably caused by the motherboard (Memtest86 shows errors 
> always at the end 
> of test 5 and changing mem chips doesn't help). This 
> obviously causes quite a 
> bit of problems while compiling stuff, but under normal load 
> it doesn't seem 
> to be a problem.
> 
>   Obviously the only long term solution is to get a new 
> motherboard, but in 
> the mean time I would like to update the system on the 
> current hardware. I 
> have two other Gentoo systems at my disposal (800MHz Duron 
> and 400MHz K6-2, 
> while the borked one is a Athlon XP 1700+ with DDR RAM) and 
> they're all in 
> the same network.
> 
>   So, any ideas on how I could sidestep the memory issue 
> while updating the 
> system?



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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Wesley
On Saturday 14 June 2003 15:48, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am happy to find this thread because I have a strange problem:
> This morning I recompiled my kernel (I used stage3 default), and kept the
> old one in /boot in case my setup didnt work.
> When I rebooted I had an error message telling me that devfs was missing
> and then I rebooted in the old kernel and tried to reconfigure.
> But using either make config or make menuconfig, I cant find the options
> about devfs!!
> Supposedly they should be in "file system", after the "proc file system
> support". And when I quit make menuconfig and check for DEVFS in .config,
> I get:
> # CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set
> How can force these options to appear in make menuconfig?
> Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Ben Sparks
I have also found that OOo is much more stable when compiled from source
than when just installed with pre-compiled binaries.  I have some pretty
aggressive Cflaggs (IMHO):

CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr 
-falign-functions=64 -mfpmath=sse,387"

And have not had any compile problems with OO, however that could be
because the ebuild disregarded them, but whatever it still compiled for
me.  I would like to see a 1.1beta source ebuild instead of the binary
merge.  Good luck, also if you leave it to compile at night when you
wake up it will be done, no lost productivity time ;) 

On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 03:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote:
> Content-Description: signed data
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${GXzim}
> > Saturday 14 June 2003 12:00 am
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > I started merging openoffice and it´s really taking
> > > it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet done. My
> > > question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org and
> > > download the tar ball and install it from there, it
> > > would have take no more than 10 minuts I believe. Is
> > > it better to merge packages than to download and
> > > install them manually? Why does it take longer to
> > > merge a package then to insall it from source (e.g.
> > > openoffice)?
> > >
> > 
> > Errr... OOo 1.0.3-r1 took 9hs to build here (p31g, 256mb)
> > 
> > "emerge openoffice-bin" if you don't want to wait. I did, but -bin-1.0.0 was 
> > s slo :-/ Now 1.0.3 compiled from source it really fast! :-)
> > 
> > Norberto
> 
> Is it really that much faster? I have a PIII 450mhz machine (5 hours?
> heh, I wouldn't even expect KDE to compile in that time), so I've been
> using the binary ebuilds so far. Also, IIRC, compiling OO from source
> strips out the optimization. The OpenOffice.org source is pretty
> fragile, and optimizations (especially GCC3's) will give you a good
> chance of a failed compilation.


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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hello all,
I am happy to find this thread because I have a strange problem:
This morning I recompiled my kernel (I used stage3 default), and kept the
old one in /boot in case my setup didnt work. 
When I rebooted I had an error message telling me that devfs was missing
and then I rebooted in the old kernel and tried to reconfigure.
But using either make config or make menuconfig, I cant find the options about
devfs!!
Supposedly they should be in "file system", after the "proc file system 
support". And when I quit make menuconfig and check for DEVFS in .config,
I get:
# CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set
# CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set
How can force these options to appear in make menuconfig?
Thanks

Le vendredi 13 juin à 10 h. 07, brett holcomb a écrit notamment:
> What devfs problem do you mean?  The install docs I used 
> for x86 told me I needed to make sure devfs and autostart 
> at boot were checked.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:17:18 -0400 (EDT)
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>You also need to build the kernel with autostart on boot
> >>for devfs.
> >>
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >I think there is already a bug report on this devfs 
> >problem.
> >But it would save a lot of time to have it outlined in 
> >the Installation Docs.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: BitTorrent - GentooGames

2003-06-14 Thread Richard Revis
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:46:15 +1000, Rod Smart wrote:

> I would have thought if finding another was possible, the program
> should be able to cycle or hunt to find one that will work.

BitTorrent is not a P2P app, it is a swarm downloading app - each stream
is like a little P2P network sharing only one file. There may be multiple
streams of any given file, but they do not communicate - and there is only
one tracker per stream.

As such, you need to find a different URL for the file you want, or wait
for that tracker to recover.

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Re: [gentoo-user] stop & continue merging

2003-06-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
You are right, ctl-s, ctl-q are terminal control characters - xoff, xon IIRC. 
 They stop terminal output.  The poster needs either ctl-z which will allow 
him to stop the process, then resume it later or ctl-c which will kill the 
merge entirely and then can resume it with emerge resume later.


> On Saturday 14 June 2003 13:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Some one please chim in if I am wrong here, but it is my understanding
> > that control-s only stops output being displayed to the terminal. It
> > won't actually stop things from happening. It is ment if things are
> > scrolling to fast and you to stop to read it. Control-Q is its
> > counter-part to continue output.
> >
> > Now it may be possible that these are signals that can be trapped by
> > python, but I think they are received in the tty layer and never get
> > passed to python.
> >
> > The only thing that I can think of that can answer this question is
> > actually killing the emerge [like w/ control-c], then starting it up
> > again w/ emerge --resume. I know the --resume feature is new since 2.47
> > and was ment incase you emerge -e world, although it may have more uses.
> > I can also tell you that --resume will have to start from the start of
> > the last package it was working on, however it will not redo any that it
> > has already finished.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
>
> I second that. The --resume option seems to be the only answer, and I've
> used it numerous times. Very effective for putting long-winded stuff on
> screen.
>
> Callan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unicode from Mutt/Vim

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 08:48:21PM +0300, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> For some reason, my mutt/vim combo is sending Hebrew mail as Unicode -
> this is undesired for me, as it makes it a hassle to change the encoding
> for many people (feel free to try and convince me otherwise).
> In vim, 'set encoding?' returns iso-8859-8 (the standard Hebrew
> encoding). What gives?
> Here's an example:
> המשפט הזה בעברית

Resolved! VIM was spitting out iso-8859-8 just fine, but mutt was
converting it. In .muttrc, I needed to add iso-8859-8 to the
send_charset (default is us-ascii, then immediately utf8). Actually, the
Hebrew sentence above should be fine now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfree 4.3.0-r3 locale problems

2003-06-14 Thread D.J. Bolderman
On za, 14 jun 2003, Ohad Lutzky wrote:


> Yes, the locale settings have been b0rked up a bit in -r3. I had to
> change my locales from he_IL to he_IL.ISO8859-8 everywhere. Try adding a
> period and the encoding - that solved it for me.

I couldn't find a suitable NL* locale to work, so for the moment I'm
using C as locale. However, fonts are still messed up. little square
boxes everywhere... I think I'll just go back to R2...

> By the way, this is *not* OK in my opinion... he_IL should be enough.

I agree. A little warning during the emerge would be nice... :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything

2003-06-14 Thread Andrei Ivanov

emerge -e world

On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Ohad Lutzky wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:06:23AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> > I am slowing making some progress and am looking at some of the security 
> > options.
> > 
> > I didn't put them in USE before and need to do some rebuilding.
> > 
> > How do you tell emerge to update everything and to rebuild everything 
> > regardless of it's update status?
> 
> I think that would be "emerge world"
> Not sure though
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Wesley
On Saturday 14 June 2003 14:17, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:06:23AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> > I am slowing making some progress and am looking at some of the security
> > options.
> >
> > I didn't put them in USE before and need to do some rebuilding.
> >
> > How do you tell emerge to update everything and to rebuild everything
> > regardless of it's update status?
>
> I think that would be "emerge world"
> Not sure though

use emerge -e world, that will recompile packages that were installed as 
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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:06:23AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> I am slowing making some progress and am looking at some of the security 
> options.
> 
> I didn't put them in USE before and need to do some rebuilding.
> 
> How do you tell emerge to update everything and to rebuild everything 
> regardless of it's update status?

I think that would be "emerge world"
Not sure though

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[gentoo-user] rebuilding everything

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Allison
I am slowing making some progress and am looking at some of the security 
options.

I didn't put them in USE before and need to do some rebuilding.

How do you tell emerge to update everything and to rebuild everything 
regardless of it's update status?



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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Allison
Tom Allison wrote:

I can fix this with appending devfs=mount into the kernel options.


Actually, I can't.  It's not working.

I'll try the LiveCD process and if that works then I'm off to find out 
why all my modules are missing and where I can get AGP support even 
though that is also compiled into the kernel

Great news

While the problems of inconcistencly with the gentoo-sources kernel 
configuration persists I found the "fix" for getting everything updated 
correctly

remount /boot dude!!!

I followed the directions and set /boot as noauto

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Re: [gentoo-user] IMAP server connection problem in Evolution

2003-06-14 Thread D.J. Bolderman
On za, 14 jun 2003, Aurélien Gouny wrote:

> i used Evolution a long time to get mails from my mail server using IMAP.
> Some months ago, i started to have an error message when evolution was
> trying to fetch mails:

> "Could not connect to my.mail.server (port 143): Connection refused".

> I thought it was a known evolution bug for the version i was using and i
> as waiting for a new version, but it does nothing, i started to downgrade,
> switch to 1.3, 1.4 now, i always have the same problem but my mail server
> is completely accessible!

> Using pine on the same machine works, mutt too and my webserver makes
> webmail on it and works too.

> I don't know where the problem come from :/
> I've looked to the bug archives on ximian.com. nothing.

Really strange...maybe you used a wrong password once, and now it's still
using the wrong one ? Since Pine and Mutt work, it's not a problem
with your server. When you downgraded, did you fully remove the 1.4
installation ? Also, make sure to check the log on your server, maybe
there is some more info in there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] devfs

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Allison
I can fix this with appending devfs=mount into the kernel options.
Actually, I can't.  It's not working.

I also read through some of the other emails and I don't have a 
/proc/config entry to read off my kernel configuration, but 'grep DEVFS 
/usr/src/linux/.config' shows that I have:

CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y
and it's still not working.

I made an earlier comment about this not being in the kernel and was met 
with some skepticism at the time.  I think that the difference is that 
my installation was from Stage1.  I don't know if it matters or not.

But I was surpised to find some of the settings I did find (and not 
find) in the kernel source configuration and the lack of any mention in 
the documentation:
DEVFS support is not enabled
SMP is default
and the aforementioned /proc/config option...

I don't recall any others right now, but this leads me to believe the 
the gentoo-source kernel has not been completely updated to be a working 
copy of the kernel based on their largest x86 architecture population 
(single CPU with DEVFS for starters) or that it may be  in an 
inconcistent state between the two.

Further review of the Installation tells me as a recovery I could reboot 
with the CD, copy the /proc/config into a file on my partitions and try 
that.   But it seems kind of strange that if I can boot from the LiveCD, 
and that I am downloading the gentoo-sources and not the 
vanilla-sources, that these kernel sources are not already based upon 
the working LiveCD configuration file but something that is entirely 
incompatable with the architectural design of gentoo for x86.

I'll try the LiveCD process and if that works then I'm off to find out 
why all my modules are missing and where I can get AGP support even 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cron & emerge tips?

2003-06-14 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:52:26 -0400
daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> so yeah, that's it.  if anyone thinks that this may be bad, or
> detrimental to the community, please say so 'cause that's the last
> thing i want to do, i thought this would be best, 'cause it takes the
> load off the round-robin system and gives my lan a single hit, rather
> than multiple ones.
> 
Not at all, in fact its recommended practice for a LAN, since as you
say, it will reduce network load both on your net and our round robin
servers.


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[gentoo-user] IMAP server connection problem in Evolution

2003-06-14 Thread Aurélien Gouny
Hi all,

i used Evolution a long time to get mails from my mail server using IMAP.
Some months ago, i started to have an error message when evolution was
trying to fetch mails:

"Could not connect to my.mail.server (port 143): Connection refused".

I thought it was a known evolution bug for the version i was using and i
as waiting for a new version, but it does nothing, i started to downgrade,
switch to 1.3, 1.4 now, i always have the same problem but my mail server
is completely accessible!

Using pine on the same machine works, mutt too and my webserver makes
webmail on it and works too.

I don't know where the problem come from :/
I've looked to the bug archives on ximian.com. nothing.

Could someone help me ? I'de like to use Evolution again.

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[gentoo-user] c++ hash_map header file not found

2003-06-14 Thread romildo
Hello.

The progrom Verbiste (a French conjugation system)

http://www3.sympatico.ca/sarrazip/dev/verbiste.html

use the type hash_map, distributed with gcc. The
needed header file is not being found by the g++
compiler, although it is installed at

  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ext/hash_map

What have to be done for it to be found easily by the
compiler?

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[gentoo-user] Getting uml to work

2003-06-14 Thread Joel Palmius
I've been trying to get user-mode linux to work under gentoo, mainly by 
trying to follow the instructions on gentoo.org. However, I can't get the 
kernel to build:

  ligur linux # make linux ARCH=um
  .. [lots of output] ..
  make: *** No rule to make target 
  `/usr/src/uml/linux-2.4.20-r1/include/asm/vm86.h', needed by 
  `/usr/src/uml/linux-2.4.20-r1/include/asm/processor.h'.  Stop.

Ok, usermode-sources is masked, but still... Is there some way to get this 
to work via gentoo's system or should I go for patching stuff manually?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BitTorrent - GentooGames

2003-06-14 Thread Rod Smart




    Ummm ok, how do I do that ?

    Is it an option in the program?

    I would have thought if finding another was possible, the program should
be able to cycle or hunt to find one that will work.

Richard Revis wrote:

  On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 19:26:52 +1000, Rod Smart wrote:

  
  
ERROR (06:59 PM) -
Problem connecting to tracker - 

   Would anyone know how to rectify this problem please?

  
  
This is probably not your problem (unless your DNS and/or net connection
has failed) - the tracker can only host ~10,000 users and they sometimes
get overloaded.

Try and find a different tracker, basically.

  






Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution 1.4 corba server *SOLVED*

2003-06-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi,

i removed my $~/.gconf* DIR. Now it works und looks great :-)

cu denny

On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 10:45, Denny Schierz wrote:
 
> gtkhtml-ERROR **: gconf error: Konfigurationsserver konnte nicht kontaktiert 
> werden: 
>  CORBA-Fehler: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/BAD_OPERATION:1.0 



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[gentoo-user] Getting hotplug to work?

2003-06-14 Thread Ville Leskinen
Hi!

I'm having some troubles getting hotplug to work correctly with usb-storage. 
It apparently notices that device is plugged as /proc/scsi/usb-storage/1 
exists:

   Host scsi1: usb-storage
   Vendor: Creative Tech
  Product: NOMAD MuVo
Serial Number: 
 Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
   Quirks:

But there's no /dev/sda*, so that I could mount the device. I'm using 
2.5.70-mm9 with usb-storage, usbcore, uhci-hcd, scsi-disk and scsi-generic 
compiled as modules.  Running dmesg shows this:

drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver 
v2.1
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:04.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:09.0
uhci-hcd :00:04.2: VIA Technologies, In USB
uhci-hcd :00:04.2: irq 9, io base d400
uhci-hcd :00:04.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub 1-0:0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:0: 2 ports detected
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:04.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:09.0
uhci-hcd :00:04.3: VIA Technologies, In USB (#2)
uhci-hcd :00:04.3: irq 9, io base d000
uhci-hcd :00:04.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub 2-0:0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:0: 2 ports detected
hub 1-0:0: debounce: port 1: delay 100ms stable 4 status 0x101
hub 1-0:0: new USB device on port 1, assigned address 2
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: CREATIVE  Model: NOMAD_MUVORev: 0001
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
SCSI device sda: 126977 512-byte hdwr sectors (65 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 04
sda: cache data unavailable
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1
devfs_mk_dir: invalid argument.<5>Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
devfs_mk_cdev: could not append to parent for /generic
Attached scsi generic sg1 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 0
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 2
drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfree 4.3.0-r3 locale problems

2003-06-14 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:27:08AM +0200, D.J. Bolderman wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I just emerged this latest version of Xfree, but it's giving me some
> problems. Emerge didn't produce any errors, but when I start mozilla,
> it just quits immediately. When I exit fluxbox after that, I see the
> following errors:
> 
> (): Gdk_WARNING **: Locale not supported by xlib
> (): Gdk_WARNING **: Can not set locale modifiers
> 
> When I start konqueror, I get this message:
> 
> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
> 
> And all characters in Konqueror are shown as little boxes.
> 
> Here's my locale config:
> 
> LANG=en_GB
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LC_TIME=C
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LC_MESSAGES=en_US
> LC_PAPER="en_GB"
> LC_NAME="en_GB"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
> LC_ALL=
> 
> I suspect the empty LC_ALL was the problem, but changing this to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] didn't solve my problem.
> 
> Is anyone else having problems with this ?
> 
> Thanks

Yes, the locale settings have been b0rked up a bit in -r3. I had to
change my locales from he_IL to he_IL.ISO8859-8 everywhere. Try adding a
period and the encoding - that solved it for me.

By the way, this is *not* OK in my opinion... he_IL should be enough.

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[gentoo-user] Re: BitTorrent - GentooGames

2003-06-14 Thread Richard Revis
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 19:26:52 +1000, Rod Smart wrote:

> ERROR (06:59 PM) -
> Problem connecting to tracker -  refused')>
> 
>Would anyone know how to rectify this problem please?

This is probably not your problem (unless your DNS and/or net connection
has failed) - the tracker can only host ~10,000 users and they sometimes
get overloaded.

Try and find a different tracker, basically.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
I do not know, why you have installed gentoo linux, but it seems
it was a missunderstanding ...this distribution is definitely
NOT recommended for absolute beginers.
Noro



Gëzim Hoxha wrote:

--- Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 

Gëzim Hoxha wrote:
   

Hi,
I started merging openoffice and it´s really
 

taking
   

it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet done.
 

My
   

question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org and
download the tar ball and install it from there,
 

it
   

would have take no more than 10 minuts I believe.
 

Is
   

it better to merge packages than to download and
install them manually? Why does it take longer to
merge a package then to insall it from source
 

(e.g.
   

openoffice)? 
 

emerge openoffice-bin
   

OK, thanks, but can you please explain what´s
happening, what´s the difference between emerge
openoffice-bin and emerge openoffice, does other
packages have ¨-bin¨?
 

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[gentoo-user] Xfree 4.3.0-r3 locale problems

2003-06-14 Thread D.J. Bolderman
Guys,

I just emerged this latest version of Xfree, but it's giving me some
problems. Emerge didn't produce any errors, but when I start mozilla,
it just quits immediately. When I exit fluxbox after that, I see the
following errors:

(): Gdk_WARNING **: Locale not supported by xlib
(): Gdk_WARNING **: Can not set locale modifiers

When I start konqueror, I get this message:

Qt: Locales not supported on X server

And all characters in Konqueror are shown as little boxes.

Here's my locale config:

LANG=en_GB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
LC_TIME=C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_PAPER="en_GB"
LC_NAME="en_GB"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
LC_ALL=

I suspect the empty LC_ALL was the problem, but changing this to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] didn't solve my problem.

Is anyone else having problems with this ?

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[gentoo-user] BitTorrent - GentooGames

2003-06-14 Thread Rod Smart
  Hello.

  I emerged in bittorrent and downloaded the .ISO for RTCW-ET and had 
the program running for about a day, now it gets "Connection refused" 
when its trying to connect.

ERROR (06:59 PM) -
Problem connecting to tracker - 
  Would anyone know how to rectify this problem please?

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB CF reader hotplug mounting

2003-06-14 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Chris Bare wrote:

I've got a USB sandisk Compact Flash reader. I can get it to work by
loading the following modules:
usb-storage64380   1 
ehci-hcd   16328   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   25324   0  (unused)
usbcore67168   1  [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci]

I have scsi generic built into the kernel.
In order to mount it I have to run:
gentoo usb # /usr/local/bin/sg_map
# Note: the devfs pseudo file system is present
/dev/sg0  /dev/sda
/dev/sg1  /dev/sdb
I don't see that in most of the instructions I've found on the web, but
I've mostly found stuff written for red hat.
After running rg_map, I can mount the CF, but most of the time it fails
on the first try with:
gentoo usb # /bin/mount /mnt/photo
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
  or too many mounted file systems
gentoo usb # /bin/mount /mnt/photo
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
  or too many mounted file systems
gentoo usb # /bin/mount /mnt/photo
on the third time it worked.
The failures generate the following kernel messages:
sdb : READ CAPACITY failed.
sdb : status = 1, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 08 
Current sd00:00: sense key Not Ready
Additional sense indicates Medium not present
sdb : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB.  
sdb: Write Protect is off
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun1: I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 2097144
I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 2097144
I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 0
I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 0
ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
I/O error: dev 08:10, sector 0
unable to read partition table
Device 08:01 not ready.
I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 0
FAT: unable to read boot sector
I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 0
FAT: unable to read boot sector
SCSI device sda: 15680 512-byte hdwr sectors (8 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:09.0-2 address 14
hub.c: new USB device 00:09.0-2, assigned address 15
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 15
Device 08:01 not ready.
I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 0
FAT: unable to read boot sector

Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a solution, or is this what
you get for a $20 gadget?
 

This problem occurs in case you're using more than one usb mass storage 
device (USBMSD)
or more than one type of memory media in your reader. Is'nt it your case 
? (Sure yes :-) ).

For every plugged USBMSD system reserves new device, although they are 
disconected later ...
so you should remember what was where, or use monte carlo method to find 
it :-)
Any way, you have to improve your sg_map/rg_map script.

Noro



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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org

2003-06-14 Thread MooktaKiNG
I think you get better fonts if you compile openoffice. also it is a
lot more stable. I found that using a compiled version of any
program seems to be more stable then binary that has been compiled
for most types of systems.

eg:

before i used mozilla downloaded and installed from binary.
It would sometimes crash if i use too many windows at a time (that
was before tabs were invented ;-))

Then i tried gentoo and compiled it. I don't remember mozilla
crashes anytime.
Also this could be becuase of gentoo but i'm think its becuase i
compiled the program for my own systems spec.


> Gëzim Hoxha wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I started merging openoffice and it´s really taking
>> it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet done. My
>> question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org and
>> download the tar ball and install it from there, it
>> would have take no more than 10 minuts I believe. Is
>> it better to merge packages than to download and
>> install them manually? Why does it take longer to
>> merge a package then to insall it from source (e.g.
>> openoffice)?
>
> emerge openoffice-bin
>
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[gentoo-user] Evolution 1.4 corba server

2003-06-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi, 
 
ich installed the new evolution 1.4, but i can't start. The start breaks with: 
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] denny $ evolution 
warning: failed to load external entity 
"/home/denny/evolution/config/storage-set-view-expanded:default" 
 
(evolution:15104): evolution-shell-CRITICAL **: file e-storage-set.c: line 639 
(e_storage_set_get_folder): assertion `g_path_is_absolute (path)' failed 
 
gtkhtml-ERROR **: gconf error: Konfigurationsserver konnte nicht kontaktiert 
werden: 
 CORBA-Fehler: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/BAD_OPERATION:1.0 
 
aborting... 
### 
 
I used the "-gnome" switch, cause i'm a kde user. What can i do? 
 
cu denny 
 

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