Re: [gentoo-user] [Long] Automatic CFLAGS benchmark

[Robo Cernansky]

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:41:48 +0100 Danilo Piazzalunga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DP> Hello,
DP> I saw results of the little experiment by Robo Cernansky
DP> 
DP> and decided to repeat it, but automating it
DP> 
DP> Since there are lots of CFLAGS-related question, I will post the scripts I
DP> put together, hoping they will be useful for others, too.

Great! That's what I want. Some automation to easily repeat the test when I
upgrade gcc.

Thank You Danilo.

Robert.


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[gentoo-user] removing color

[Andrew Gaffney]

Is there a command line program or script I can filter something through to remove color? 
For example, if I want to run 'emerge' and get output with no color, how can I do this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] su doesn't like me

[Andrew Gaffney]

Manuel McLure wrote:
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 21:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

Why can I 'su apache'? I get the following results whether I do 'su apache' or 'su - 
apache'. I'm writing a series of perl scripts to create a web frontend for portage. I want 
to run 'emerge' before and after adding apache to the portage group to see how it acts. 
This is very difficult to do when I can't switch to the user apache.


The shell for user apache is /bin/false, which means it will exit as
soon as it logs in.
You need to change the shell if you want to log in as apache.
I saw that and thought, 'No, that's too simple to be the answer' ;) Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user]Multiple screens for 1 box

[Chris I]

On 2003.11.13 22:40, Bryce wrote:
Hi All. I've been curious about this for a while, and was wondering  
if
its
possible. Is there a way to have 1 machine fascilitate 2 or more
monitors,
keyboards, & mouse. Each Monitor having its own Xsession, using its
own
keyboard,etc.

Kind of like a dummy terminal, just have the extra montiros directly
connect
to the host computer. And have the mice and keyboards go through USB.
Is this possible???
More or less what X (protocol) was designed to do, essentially, wasnt  
it?

Anyway, the only thing that might be tricky would be keyboards. I'm not  
sure how you could set those up (you'd basically be required to use usb  
keyboards). Keyboards can probably be represented via the event  
interface, but im not sure if xfree86 can do anything with that yet.

As for mouse, monitor, and video card, no problem. I'm not sure of the  
details on how it can be done (hehe, i'd gladly research it for you if  
you send me the hardware :). For example, you may need to create  
multiple XF86Config files and run each xfree86 instance specifying the  
config file to use. You might be able to even just throw all the  
different screens into the same file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

[Spundun Bhatt]

Hi, Thanx for your reply.
Donnie Berkholz wrote:

  On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:54, spundun wrote:
  
  
I dont understand. I think kdrive is not related to xfree86.org .

  
  You're a little misled here. kdrive started within xfree86.

Okkey, understood. Now later in this mail you are going to say that its
a snapshot off the recent xserver from fd.o, then how is it in sync
with XFree.org? what do you mean by "in sync with"?




  

  The other problem I've seen is that we should install all of the
libraries xserver requires to /usr/X11R6/, which would overwrite xfree's
files.

  

I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can work with xlib etc components from XFree 
project. Ask on their irc #xwin to confirm.

  
  
Apparently you didn't notice when you joined #xwin a couple of days ago
that I was in there.
  

heh, yeah I have been on many irc channels lately, mainly wasting mine
and ppl's time, hoping to learn something btw. Now that you mention
this, I will trust your word more ;) and be on the lokout for you next
time I am online :)

  No. The xfree86 libraries aren't autotooled (they use horrible imake),
cannot be built independently, and do not install *.pc files needed for
pkg-config.
  

I think what I heard was that you could just place the xserver binary
alongside XFree setup and be able to use it. I really just heard it, I
dont understand how its supposed to work, so I guess I will take your
word for it that its not going to work.

  

  (When compiling xserver/xlibs by hand, one typically installs to
/usr/local/.) So xserver/kdrive will need to change to an exclusive
build, instead of something that can be installed alongside xfree.
  

I dont understand the exact nature of the problem, but it seems trivial! 
may be I am missing something,

  
  
The issue is that it should be installed to /usr/X11R6, according to
policy. Therefore, freedesktop.org's xlibs/xserver and xfree86 currently
cannot be installed at the same time.
  

Thats a worst reason ever! :)

  

  I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
place.
  

Are they cvs snapshots? If yes, then what date? kdrive, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

  
  


I'm going to be reworking those ebuilds over the next week or two, so be
aware that they may be changing somewhat drastically.
  

I will have to wait till thanks giving anyway, thats when I plan to buy
my computer. :)
Ohh and btw, if you are reworking them, you might want to change the
module name to xserver?

  
They are from freedesktop.org.
  

reference to my first comment.

Thanx
Spundun

Re: [gentoo-user] su doesn't like me

[Manuel McLure]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 21:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Why can I 'su apache'? I get the following results whether I do 'su apache' or 'su - 
> apache'. I'm writing a series of perl scripts to create a web frontend for portage. 
> I want 
> to run 'emerge' before and after adding apache to the portage group to see how it 
> acts. 
> This is very difficult to do when I can't switch to the user apache.

The shell for user apache is /bin/false, which means it will exit as
soon as it logs in.

You need to change the shell if you want to log in as apache.


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[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild error

[Gëzim]

Hi guys,

I'm trying to run
revdep-rebuild
but it comes up with this error:
emerge --oneshot --nodeps 
=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.1_rc2
=app-text/tetex-1.0.7-r12
=dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.102libwww-5.4.0-r1
..
Calculating dependencies
emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to
satisfy "=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.1_rc2".

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

Result is not OK, you have following chances:
- if emerge failed during build, fix the problems and
re-run this script
or
- use -X or --package-names as first argument (try to
rebuild package, not exact
  ebuild - ignores SLOT!)
or
- modify the above emerge command and run it manually
or
- compile or unmerge unsatisfied packages manually,
remove temporary files and
  try again (you can edit package/ebuild list first)

To remove temporary files, please run:
rm /root/.revdep-rebuild.?_*


Anything I can do?

Thanks in advance,
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[gentoo-user] su doesn't like me

[Andrew Gaffney]

Why can I 'su apache'? I get the following results whether I do 'su apache' or 'su - 
apache'. I'm writing a series of perl scripts to create a web frontend for portage. I want 
to run 'emerge' before and after adding apache to the portage group to see how it acts. 
This is very difficult to do when I can't switch to the user apache.

upstairs home # cat /etc/passwd | grep apache
apache:x:81:81:apache:/home/httpd:/bin/false
upstairs home # cat /etc/group | grep apache
apache:x:81:
upstairs home # su - apache
upstairs home # whoami
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Spundun Bhatt]

Just curious.
Around how much speedup do people get when they switch from std gcc 
setup to distcc with all the fancieness that we talked about in this thread?
Spundun
Oliver Lange wrote:

Hello,

Just in case - does anyone know (or wants to write)
an article about the best way how to setup:
  gentoo + distcc + ccache + tmpfs

(question of the month ? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS at http://127.0.0.1:631/

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Try localhost instead of  127.0.0.01.  You have to modify the cups conf file 
to allow other hosts in.

On Thursday 13 November 2003 22:43, you wrote:
> When I try to delete printer as root from Mozilla at the address
> http://127.0.0.1:631 I get the message "UNAUTHORISED This server could not
> verify that you are authorized to access this resource"
>
> If anyone can help -- thanks,
>
> Alan

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[gentoo-user]Multiple screens for 1 box

[Bryce]

Hi All. I've been curious about this for a while, and was wondering if its 
possible. Is there a way to have 1 machine fascilitate 2 or more monitors, 
keyboards, & mouse. Each Monitor having its own Xsession, using its own 
keyboard,etc.

Kind of like a dummy terminal, just have the extra montiros directly connect 
to the host computer. And have the mice and keyboards go through USB.

Is this possible???

thanks in advance

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Re: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot

[Alan Watson]

Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Dart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot


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Re: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot

[Alan Watson]

Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeffrey Smelser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot


rc-update add samba default

Check out the man page so you know what's goin on

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to start "/etc/init.d/samba start" at 
> boot so I don't
> have to manually invoke the command.

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[gentoo-user] CUPS at http://127.0.0.1:631/

[Alan Watson]

When I try to delete printer as root from Mozilla at the address
http://127.0.0.1:631 I get the message "UNAUTHORISED This server could not
verify that you are authorized to access this resource"

If anyone can help -- thanks,

Alan

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[gentoo-user] ipchains - ip masquerading - cable connection authentication client

[Alan Watson]

Hello,

I am running ipchains with an authentication daemon/client called bpalogin
to run my internal pc's through a single cable broadband connection on an
early version of Caldera Linux. Can anyone guide me to a Gentoo resource so
that I can plan an upgrade to Gentoo with 2 network cards.

Regards,

Alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Binary Packages - Help?

[Raimundo Bilbao]

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:57:51 -0500
R'twick Niceorgaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, 

> [...]


> I have three boxes with gentoo (one AMD xp, one PII and one P4 ). I 
> don't use much fancy compilr settings just i686. What I do is, keep 
> portage on one machine and NFS export it to other machines. while 
> emerging something, I emerge on the fastest machine first with emerge
> -b 
>option. that builds the binary package along with
>   installing 
> it on the same machine. then on othr machines its just emerge -K 
>  and it installs form the binary package.


And what if I need differents settings for differents machines? 

Let's say, that I have a couple of servers with  similar flags, other
with specials odds and a lot of fancy desktop machines and I need/want 
to centralize all the process (download-setup-make-publish) on one
dedicated server with enough resources to do that.

Then, supervised by some admins, they decide what is / isn't available
from the rsync mirros to the internal network ( like emerge sync {a,b,c}
),  then the proccess compile the packages needded for all the versions
needed and finally all that farm be emerged with the appropiated (bin)
packages,  precompiled and tweaked for them.


Something like RHN o Red-Carpet ala Gentoo ;-P

Is some way to do that or we need to create the right tools (I
volunteer) ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Moving /usr/portage

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:00, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2003 11:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >Can /usr/portage just a be a link to a directory on another
> > partition? I'm out of space on my main drive and I'd like to move the
> > data, but I was thinking I don't want to change a configuration file
> > since some future etc-update will likely hose that up.
> 
> If you move it and symlink it, then you don't need to do anything further. If 
> you don't want to symlink it, change the reference in /etc/make.conf and 
> resymlink /etc/make.profile and that's it.
> 
> Jason

Thanks Jason. I moved it to /mnt/data/portage and then did a simlink.
We'll see how that works for a while.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Oliver Lange]

Spider wrote:
Contact me in priv and I'll make a rough draft, which you can formalize
using the Gentoo Documentation Policy. I'll even host it for you. ;)
Well i'm still a bit unfamiliar with the Linux file/dir hierarchy,
env vars, and how everything overrides each other and which security
breaches i risk when i enter something in a shell. :)
Short: it wouldn't help much if i wrote such a guide..

BTW: gentoo has fascinated me at first sight. When sorting out distros
 from my personal candidates list, i indeed found myself searching
 for reasons to sort out distros other than gentoo.. :)
cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Booting Linux and Linux

[Ron]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 21:29, Alex Unigovsky wrote:
> > Hello All,
> Hi!
> > 
> > I've been using RedHat most of my linux life and now i'm in a searching 
> > mode.  I'm an intermediate user and wanted to learn more of the 
> > background/inner workings of linux and came across gentoo.  I think its 
> > great that its so customizable.  So my deliema is that I've begun using 
> > Mandrake and would like to dual boot gentoo with it until I come up to 
> > speed.  Is this possible? If so, how?
> Yes, it is possible, and quite simple. Usually, when you partition your
> drive, you should consider how to split your drive(s). I once had
> similar dual-boot system with RedHat and Mandrake, with shared /boot and
> swap partitions, but all others were separate. Then I installed grub
> into /boot, and configured it to boot both redhat and mandrake kernels,
> with different root= parameter. And that is all.
> > 
> > Colin Falkinburg
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What I will be doing is as Alex said, use the same /boot and swap
partitions.  Then simply add Gentoo to the lilo.conf file already on
Mandrake.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Moving /usr/portage

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 14 November 2003 11:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
>Can /usr/portage just a be a link to a directory on another
> partition? I'm out of space on my main drive and I'd like to move the
> data, but I was thinking I don't want to change a configuration file
> since some future etc-update will likely hose that up.

If you move it and symlink it, then you don't need to do anything further. If 
you don't want to symlink it, change the reference in /etc/make.conf and 
resymlink /etc/make.profile and that's it.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 14 November 2003 04:56, Ralph Crongeyer wrote:
> Does it [nvidia] run slugish on 2.6 kernels? And did it mention the
> www.demion.de patches?  :-) 

I'm running nvidia/linux2.6/kde and have found no problems at all. The 
nvidia-kernel ebuild includes at least some patches from www.demion.de simply 
to get it to work with the 2.6 kernel. As for sluggishness, I ran nptl for a 
short time and noticed no difference with nvidia. In fact, I noticed no real 
difference with nptl. The only reason I removed it from my system, however, 
is that app-i18n/canna would not work with it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 14 November 2003 10:41, Spider wrote:
> well.
> a) put CCACHE datadir on a separate partition, preferrably sized at 3 gb
> for a 2 gb cache, make it ext2, noatime,noexec,nosuid,nodev (just as a
> precaution)

Is it possible to NFS the CCACHE datadir across all the DISTCC hosts? I was 
just thinking that, if recompiling, there's no guarantee which code will be 
compiled where...

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 14 November 2003 01:36, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2003 01:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> > > here is the problem with that.. Distcc does work like that
> >
> > in 'theory'..
> >
> > > But your leaving out several things..Big problem with
> >
> > distcc is that it
> >
> > > likes to fail compiles if your using different gcc versions during
> > > compiles.. Things of this nature..
> > >
> > > There should be a document on how to install all this
> >
> > making sure you let
> >
> > > whoever know these kinds of issues... Being gentoo is a big
> >
> > compile distro,
> >
> > > its good to know these things.
> >
> > At the end of emerging distcc, you will see:
> > Tips on using distcc with Gentoo can be found at
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml
> >
> > That document covers all your questions.
>
> I am aware of this..  Isn't that what i said in my letter? I think we are
> on two different tracks here.. Just forget it.

Apologies. I didn't see that (and still don't) but now that I've slept I see 
more questions of my own.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Oliver Lange]

Spider wrote:
b) var/tmp/portage  on tmpfs : do you really have the amount of RAM
necessary for this?   I think not, and if you go tmpfs>swap , then you
loose  whatever performance you gained.
No, as i mentioned, emerge does it right not to use /tmp, of course. :)

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[gentoo-user] Moving /usr/portage

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   Can /usr/portage just a be a link to a directory on another
partition? I'm out of space on my main drive and I'd like to move the
data, but I was thinking I don't want to change a configuration file
since some future etc-update will likely hose that up.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Booting Linux and Linux

[Alex Unigovsky]

> Hello All,
Hi!
> 
> I've been using RedHat most of my linux life and now i'm in a searching 
> mode.  I'm an intermediate user and wanted to learn more of the 
> background/inner workings of linux and came across gentoo.  I think its 
> great that its so customizable.  So my deliema is that I've begun using 
> Mandrake and would like to dual boot gentoo with it until I come up to 
> speed.  Is this possible? If so, how?
Yes, it is possible, and quite simple. Usually, when you partition your
drive, you should consider how to split your drive(s). I once had
similar dual-boot system with RedHat and Mandrake, with shared /boot and
swap partitions, but all others were separate. Then I installed grub
into /boot, and configured it to boot both redhat and mandrake kernels,
with different root= parameter. And that is all.
> 
> Colin Falkinburg
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> box, you just need to work on it."  Scott Granneman
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Thomas Preissler]

Hello,

* Andrei wrote on 11/13/03:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Thomas Preissler wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > * Joel wrote on 11/13/03:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > after a week of web digging on the subject "OpenLDAP vs mySQL",
> > > I just can't found a "nice" answer to my question :
> > > 
> > > I have to build a database that will be used for
> > > - http access authent
> > > - mail account management (smtp,imap,pop3)
> > > - system user account
> > > - address book (really optionnal ;)
> > 
> > Last time I had the same question, should I use MySQL or LDAP for my
> > addresses... I choosed LDAP, so I am too lazy to design a database
> > schema and program a GUI. It fulfills nearly all requirements that I
> > needed, too: Name, address, phone(s), mobile(s), foto(s) and so on.
> 
> Have you tried directoryadministrator ? It is supposed to do user 
> administration in ldap... 

Yes, it is already emerged. But I only want to manage my addresses,
nothing else. The next step is, that I setup my system totally via
LDAP. 

[...]


Greets,
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[gentoo-user] Dual Booting Linux and Linux

[Colin Falkinburg]

Hello All,

I've been using RedHat most of my linux life and now i'm in a searching 
mode.  I'm an intermediate user and wanted to learn more of the 
background/inner workings of linux and came across gentoo.  I think its 
great that its so customizable.  So my deliema is that I've begun using 
Mandrake and would like to dual boot gentoo with it until I come up to 
speed.  Is this possible? If so, how?

Colin Falkinburg
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:47:21 +0100
Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Yeah, but is this rough installation the perfect way for optimum speed
> ? For some detail: distcc takes care of the $TMPDIR var, while emerge 
> bravely puts the large distribution file stuff to /var/tmp, while
> gcc is using /tmp by default, which is fine. What about the others,
> and how could i speedup the data transfer between the servers by
> routing their output to the tmpfs ramdisk, and how ? :)




well.
a) put CCACHE datadir on a separate partition, preferrably sized at 3 gb
for a 2 gb cache, make it ext2, noatime,noexec,nosuid,nodev (just as a
precaution)

b) var/tmp/portage  on tmpfs : do you really have the amount of RAM
necessary for this?   I think not, and if you go tmpfs>swap , then you
loose  whatever performance you gained.

I have /var/tmp on a 4 Gb ext2 partition (yes, ext2 is still the fastest
fielsystem) with noatime set. I also have a bootscript that wipes
/var/tmp/portage (tmpclean modified)


/tmp is on a 25Mb tmpfs for me.


DISTCC is set to use /tmp  for its files, on all hosts.  (tmpfs)


DISTCC_HOST ordering:
localhost/1 (so it will be called on configure and at the first time)
fastcomputerA/2 fastcomputerB/2 fastcomputerC/2 slowcomputerA/1
slowcomputerB/1 slowcomputerC/1 slowcomputerD/1 slowcomputerE/1
localhost/1

MAKEOPTS=2*n(fastcomputer)+2*n(localhost)+n(slowcomputer)
6 + 2 +5  =  13  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Oliver Lange]

Jason Stubbs wrote:
Here's a quick run-down:

gentoo
-> your already there!
distcc
-> emerge distcc. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild
ccache
-> emerge ccache. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild
tmpfs
-> if you have lots of ram, run "mount tmpfs /var/tmp/portage". if not, don't.
Yeah, but is this rough installation the perfect way for optimum speed ?
For some detail: distcc takes care of the $TMPDIR var, while emerge 
bravely puts the large distribution file stuff to /var/tmp, while
gcc is using /tmp by default, which is fine. What about the others,
and how could i speedup the data transfer between the servers by routing
their output to the tmpfs ramdisk, and how ? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot

[Keith Dart]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 14:12, Alan Watson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to start "/etc/init.d/samba start" at boot so I don't
> have to manually invoke the command.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alan
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rc-update add samba default

That should do it. Use rc-update to manage startup scripts. Use
rc-status to see how they are currently set up.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

[Donnie Berkholz]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:09, Matt Chorman wrote:
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> On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:29 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
> > of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
> > dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
> > place.
> 
> Is there anything to watch out for when using these ebuilds? Do they coexist 
> nicely with xfree86? (I'm guessing by the tone of your email that they do 
> not).. Any docs on what to do yet? I've been wanting to play around with 
> kdrive but have not wanted to kill anything in the process.. (I do have 
> vmware so if nothing else I will install gentoo in this - I just want to play 
> and test..)

The ebuilds cannot be used at the same time as xfree86 without
modification of the installation directories and prefixes within the
ebuild.

For docs, see xlibs.freedesktop.org, xserver.freedesktop.org, and the
xserver mailing list.

If you want to play, feel free to quickpkg xfree, emerge -C xfree, then
install all the needed xlibs and xserver.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

[Donnie Berkholz]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:54, spundun wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:54, spundun wrote:
> I dont understand. I think kdrive is not related to xfree86.org .

You're a little misled here. kdrive started within xfree86. Take a look
in xfree86 source code sometime, xc/program/Xserver/hw/kdrive. After
Keith Packard left xfree86, kdrive began being maintained in other
places. Now it's at freedesktop.org

> You know that mine (and everybody and their dog's) sudden interest in 
> xserver is due to the new developement regarding compositing manager 
> extension which enables ppl to use effects similar (but not limited) to 
> OS-X, right?

Yes, one of the developers posted to slashdot a couple of days ago.

> >The other problem I've seen is that we should install all of the
> >libraries xserver requires to /usr/X11R6/, which would overwrite xfree's
> >files.
> >
> I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can work with xlib etc components from XFree 
> project. Ask on their irc #xwin to confirm.

Apparently you didn't notice when you joined #xwin a couple of days ago
that I was in there.

No. The xfree86 libraries aren't autotooled (they use horrible imake),
cannot be built independently, and do not install *.pc files needed for
pkg-config.

> > (When compiling xserver/xlibs by hand, one typically installs to
> >/usr/local/.) So xserver/kdrive will need to change to an exclusive
> >build, instead of something that can be installed alongside xfree.
> >  
> >
> I dont understand the exact nature of the problem, but it seems trivial! 
> may be I am missing something,

The issue is that it should be installed to /usr/X11R6, according to
policy. Therefore, freedesktop.org's xlibs/xserver and xfree86 currently
cannot be installed at the same time.

> >I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
> >of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
> >dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
> >place.
> >  
> >
> Are they cvs snapshots? If yes, then what date? kdrive, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, they are CVS snapshots. Look at the ebuild names to get the date,
naming thus far has been ${package}-0.1_pre${date}.ebuild. Ebuilds for
new xlibs that aren't there yet are trivial. Simply check out the CVS
from xlibs.freedesktop.org, make a tarball from the top level (using the
naming scheme of the distfiles in my overlay), of X11, xtrans, etc, copy
that tarball to distfiles, copy one of the other needed ebuilds over to
a new one with the proper date and try it out. Some tweaking may be
necessary. Do the same with xserver CVS.

I'm going to be reworking those ebuilds over the next week or two, so be
aware that they may be changing somewhat drastically.

They are from freedesktop.org.


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[gentoo-user] Grub RAID0 Serial ATA amd64 question

[Kyle Schlansker]

I have a dual opteron setup and I noticed that my only bootloader option is
grub-static.  I've never used grub before.  I've always been a lilo man.
Anyways, I can't get it to work at all.  I have no idea how to configure it
or set it up.  I'm booting from a two WD raptor serial ATA drives in RAID 0.
They are my only drives in the system.  Gentoo recognizes all my partitions.
My root partition is /dev/sda5 and is formated for xfs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage seems to be against my will

[Andrew Gaffney]

Roel Schroeven wrote:
Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote:

I used to have simgear and flightgear installed for some time but last
week I unemerged them. However when I make emerge -up --deep world 
now I
get

[ebuild  N] dev-games/simgear-0.3.4
[ebuild  N] games-simulation/flightgear-0.9.3
as the last lines of the list! I don't want them. Any ideas on why they
might be showing up?


# nano /var/cache/edb/world

Remove the lines containing simgear and flightgear from that file. 
That's
all. :)



The problem is... I don't have any lines on that file that mention
simgear or flightgear.


I'm having the same problem with a number of Gnome-related packages. I 
had Gnome installed, but I uninstalled it to save some disk space; I 
just want to keep enough to be able to run Gnome-based programs. When I 
include -d when I do emerge world, a number of these packages always 
show up (can't check precisely which ones at the moment).

I have unmerged them, they are not in /var/cache/edb/world, but they 
still show up. To circumvent the problem I don't use -d, but that's far 
from a real solution.
That sounds all to familiar. After I switched from Gnome to fluxbox, it took me about 2 
months to finally get gnome-related packages to stop showing up. One thing I recommend is 
to use 'qpkg -q -nc pkgname-ver' where pkgname-ver is the specific package name and 
version that portage wants to install when you do 'emerge -uDpv world'. Try recompiling 
those packages with USE=-gnome to diable the gnome support in them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OOo-1.1.0-r2 and gcc 3.3.2-r2 ?

[Andrew Gaffney]

Norberto Bensa wrote:
Ok, enough time wasted already. Does OO compiles with gcc 3.3.2?

I have plenty of free space (28GB.) C{,XX}FLAGS are "-march=pentium3 -O2 
-pipe" and I get this:

dmake:  Error code 134, while making '../../unxlngi4.pro/lib/
pyuno_services.rdb'
Has anyone successfully built OOo 1.1.0 with gcc 3.3.2?
I successfully build OOo 1.1.0-r1 with gcc 3.3.2-r2. I've masked openoffice-1.1.0-r2 
simply because I don't feel like compiling for a day for a few minor fixes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Long] Automatic CFLAGS benchmark

[William Kenworthy]

you might also look at -falign-functions=8/16/32 as well.  On an athlon
tbird 1.4, 4 had zero gain, 8 and 16 were slower than 4, but 32 was
consistantly a little better.  Possibly because its a 32 bit system

Also, did you use an offline machine with no services running - Ive
found that can be a killer for repeatbility (~10 runs needed, with spike
removal, *before* averaging to see a true figure)

BillK

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> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OOo-1.1.0-r2 and gcc 3.3.2-r2 ?

[Norberto Bensa]

Spider wrote:
> Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I have plenty of free space (28GB.)
>
> Can you check your free space ?
>  //Spider

As I said: 28GB...

/dev/md/0 47345568  18496536  28849032  40% /home

PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/home/portage emerge openoffice

It goes up to 43% by the time I get dmake's error.

Thanks,
Norberto

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RE: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot

[Jeffrey Smelser]

rc-update add samba default

Check out the man page so you know what's goin on

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to start "/etc/init.d/samba start" at 
> boot so I don't
> have to manually invoke the command.

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[gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot

[Alan Watson]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to start "/etc/init.d/samba start" at boot so I don't
have to manually invoke the command.

Thanks,

Alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

[spundun]

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:54, spundun wrote:
 


Thanks for asking. I'm glad to hear of interest in this.
It's currently in sync with www.xfree86.org, plus some patches to fix
bugs. It's there so users have some options to use a small X server.
 

I dont understand. I think kdrive is not related to xfree86.org .

I'm well aware of the development on freedesktop.org, and I'm also aware
that it's quite active. That in itself raises questions whether it
should be in portage before they've issued a semi-official release. It
suggests that they do not believe it is stable enough for a release.
However, I have a suspicion such a thing may not be far off.
 

May be an uofficial ebuild is in order for over-enthusiastic users like 
me :)
You know that mine (and everybody and their dog's) sudden interest in 
xserver is due to the new developement regarding compositing manager 
extension which enables ppl to use effects similar (but not limited) to 
OS-X, right?

The other problem I've seen is that we should install all of the
libraries xserver requires to /usr/X11R6/, which would overwrite xfree's
files.
I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can work with xlib etc components from XFree 
project. Ask on their irc #xwin to confirm.

(When compiling xserver/xlibs by hand, one typically installs to
/usr/local/.) So xserver/kdrive will need to change to an exclusive
build, instead of something that can be installed alongside xfree.
 

I dont understand the exact nature of the problem, but it seems trivial! 
may be I am missing something,

I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
place.
 

Are they cvs snapshots? If yes, then what date? kdrive, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanx a lot for your response.
Spundun


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Andrei Ivanov]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Thomas Preissler wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> * Joel wrote on 11/13/03:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > after a week of web digging on the subject "OpenLDAP vs mySQL",
> > I just can't found a "nice" answer to my question :
> > 
> > I have to build a database that will be used for
> > - http access authent
> > - mail account management (smtp,imap,pop3)
> > - system user account
> > - address book (really optionnal ;)
> 
> Last time I had the same question, should I use MySQL or LDAP for my
> addresses... I choosed LDAP, so I am too lazy to design a database
> schema and program a GUI. It fulfills nearly all requirements that I
> needed, too: Name, address, phone(s), mobile(s), foto(s) and so on.

Have you tried directoryadministrator ? It is supposed to do user 
administration in ldap... 

> 
> gq as a LDAP-client is great. The only problem I have is, I can't
> store birthdates or similar important dates in an entry.
> 
> If you have any further questions conecerning LDAP, dont hesitate to
> ask... ;-)) We are Gentoo. And you may send private mail to me.
> 
> 
> Greets,
> Tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage seems to be against my will

[Roel Schroeven]

Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote:
I used to have simgear and flightgear installed for some time but last
week I unemerged them. However when I make emerge -up --deep world now I
get
[ebuild  N] dev-games/simgear-0.3.4
[ebuild  N] games-simulation/flightgear-0.9.3
as the last lines of the list! I don't want them. Any ideas on why they
might be showing up?
# nano /var/cache/edb/world

Remove the lines containing simgear and flightgear from that file. That's
all. :)


The problem is... I don't have any lines on that file that mention
simgear or flightgear.
I'm having the same problem with a number of Gnome-related packages. I 
had Gnome installed, but I uninstalled it to save some disk space; I 
just want to keep enough to be able to run Gnome-based programs. When I 
include -d when I do emerge world, a number of these packages always 
show up (can't check precisely which ones at the moment).

I have unmerged them, they are not in /var/cache/edb/world, but they 
still show up. To circumvent the problem I don't use -d, but that's far 
from a real solution.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> I don't have to try it :-)
> 
> I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, 
> if you know what
> I mean :-)
> 
> So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more.

I wasn't going to reply to this, but I have decided to.. What was the reason he had 
for implementing this security feature?? If they are trying to stop people from 
stealing those feeds, they have failed because I know what you can use, on windows, to 
download them.. However, if its to say they only want windows people using it, it will 
make my decision easier in going to linux desktop..

I admit, other the launchcast, I have no reason to stay windows.. but I love 
launchcast and if I am at my pc at home, its on and running.. So I am curious how they 
feel about linux and if they will ever do anything for linux.. 

It may not be much to them, but I won't be paying my 4 bucks a month if they are just 
totally against a unix variant.. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

[Matt Chorman]

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On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:29 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:54, spundun wrote:
> > Hi
> > My question is why is there a module called kdrive in gentoo? As far as
> > I know, the xserver Keith Packard is working on is called xserver now
> > and is hosted on freedesktop.org. I just want to know if this is in sync
> > with that or not, and also if there is any chance of a cvs ebuild being
> > available.
>
> Thanks for asking. I'm glad to hear of interest in this.

> I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
> of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
> dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
> place.

Is there anything to watch out for when using these ebuilds? Do they coexist 
nicely with xfree86? (I'm guessing by the tone of your email that they do 
not).. Any docs on what to do yet? I've been wanting to play around with 
kdrive but have not wanted to kill anything in the process.. (I do have 
vmware so if nothing else I will install gentoo in this - I just want to play 
and test..)

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....

[Ralph Crongeyer]

Does it run slugish on 2.6 kernels? And did it mention the www.demion.de 
patches?  :-)

Ralph

On Thursday 13 November 2003 12:30 pm, Chris Carter wrote:
> > My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of
> > the install).
> >
> > My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was
> > wondering if anyone is
> > using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is
> > there anything
> > that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great!
>
> Let me know how you get on, I am right in the middle of the same process
> finding it real hard to compile glibc (also bootstrap process) with nptl
> support (it complains it doesn't have the kernel headers).
>
> I read the forums before I started and found that Nvidia video driver
> runs sluggish unless nptl is used.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: OOo-1.1.0-r2 and gcc 3.3.2-r2 ?

[Ash Varma]

It seems to me that on Nov 13 2003 at 11:50:18, Norberto Bensa wrote ... 
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> Has anyone successfully built OOo 1.1.0 with gcc 3.3.2?
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openoffice-1.1.0-r2 with gcc-3.3.2-r2 here.. worked without any
problems.

Confirm free space

Ash


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Re: [gentoo-user] OOo-1.1.0-r2 and gcc 3.3.2-r2 ?

[Spider]

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:33:03 -0300
Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok, enough time wasted already. Does OO compiles with gcc 3.3.2?
> 
> I have plenty of free space (28GB.) C{,XX}FLAGS are "-march=pentium3
> -O2 
> -pipe" and I get this:
> 
> dmake:  Error code 134, while making '../../unxlngi4.pro/lib/
> pyuno_services.rdb'
> 
> Has anyone successfully built OOo 1.1.0 with gcc 3.3.2?

Can you check your free space ?
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[gentoo-user] OOo-1.1.0-r2 and gcc 3.3.2-r2 ?

[Norberto Bensa]

Ok, enough time wasted already. Does OO compiles with gcc 3.3.2?

I have plenty of free space (28GB.) C{,XX}FLAGS are "-march=pentium3 -O2 
-pipe" and I get this:

dmake:  Error code 134, while making '../../unxlngi4.pro/lib/
pyuno_services.rdb'

Has anyone successfully built OOo 1.1.0 with gcc 3.3.2?

Thanks,
Norberto

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Uwe Weber]

Hellom

Am Thursday 13 November 2003 17:10 schrieb Spider:

> > What should I use ? LDAP or SQL ?
> > What would be the 4 or 5 reasons in favour of one or the other ?
>
> I'd say LDAP, simply because this is ldap's hometurf, user management
> and information. However, ldap interface is clunky at times.
>
> SQL would be usable, but I don't think it'd be the optimal for this
> usage area, as sql is more generic, and thus not as wellperforming.
> Besides, LDAP is a treeview, whereas SQL is flat down, which gives
> LDAP a better state for a thing like this.

There are reasons why people went away from hierarchical databases.
As soon as you have entities that might be sorted into different
branches of the ldap tree, the problems start. Do you store these 
entities in both branches? If so, how do you make sure that it will
be in sync? Or do you store it in only one and hope that everybody
who needs to access it will find it? You could work areound these 
problems quite easy in a relational database. 

Best possible solution IMHO would be to use ldap as an directory access
protocol and use a relational backend for storage. Of course you'd need 
an interface to translate the ldap queries into SQL. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos

[Chris Graves]

Stefan is right. Yahoo! seems to check for a specific browser (which 
will remain nameless). Modifying user agent doesn't seem to fool it 
either. So yeah, making it work will be a challenge (not one I'm ready 
to tackle yet).

-chris

Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote:

Well that sounds like a challenge...:)

-Original Message-
From: SN
I don't have to try it :-)

I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, if you know what
I mean :-)
So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more.

- Original Message - 
From: "Michele Di Trani"

 

They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo.  I have not been able to
   

Wich kind of codec is used for these Yahoo Videos? In Linux you can easily
watch divx, xvid, mpg, wmv, asf, realmedia, avi, mov..
(have you tried emerging Xine or Mplayer?)
   

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RE: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....

[Chris Carter]

> My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of 
> the install).
> 
> My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was 
> wondering if anyone is 
> using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is 
> there anything 
> that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great!

Let me know how you get on, I am right in the middle of the same process
finding it real hard to compile glibc (also bootstrap process) with nptl
support (it complains it doesn't have the kernel headers).

I read the forums before I started and found that Nvidia video driver
runs sluggish unless nptl is used.

Cheers!
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RE: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....

[Chris Carter]

> My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of 
> the install).
> 
> My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was 
> wondering if anyone is 
> using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is 
> there anything 
> that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great!

Let me know how you get on, I am right in the middle of the same process
finding it real hard to compile glibc (also bootstrap process) with nptl
support (it complains it doesn't have the kernel headers).

I read the forums before I started and found that Nvidia video driver
runs sluggish unless nptl is used.

Cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo & java

[Carlos]

> Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote:
> > Does 'java -version' work?
> > 
> 
> java works if i would install a link named /usr/bin/java, but i
> doubt that this is a really proper way to fix this.. the point is
> that java can't be found in any searchpath, so e.g. JEdit can't launch.

I believe you should use java-config to choose your vm.
# man java-config

Regards,
Carlos.

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[gentoo-user] logging init scripts

[Kurt V. Hindenburg]

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For those running 2.6.x kernels, you can try my experimental patches 
which will log all init script output to /dev/kmsg.  You can then 
view them with dmesg.  They shouldn't mess up your system, but make a 
copy of /sbin/functions.sh before you start.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24904
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Long] Automatic CFLAGS benchmark

[Dennis Freise]

Wonderful job, Danilo, thank you!

> I'd like to see such a test with a (cpu-intensive) floating-point program
> (perhaps povray?)

Okay, I had that idea with an automatic benchmark-script a while ago too,
but I never started working on it. Now I will. I'll take your work and adapt
it for povray. I want to see the results, because in my manual tests -O2 was
quite a lot faster than -Os. But no speculations anymore, I'll post my
result when it's done (which can take quite a while - low-tech hardware :))

Greetings, Dennis


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[gentoo-user] [Long] Automatic CFLAGS benchmark

[Danilo Piazzalunga]

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Hello,
I saw results of the little experiment by Robo Cernansky

and decided to repeat it, but automating it

Since there are lots of CFLAGS-related question, I will post the scripts I
put together, hoping they will be useful for others, too.


- [ input for build.sh (lines numbered for readability) ]-
 1  -O0
 2  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
 3  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
 4  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=4
-falign-jumps=4
 5  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=4
-falign-jumps=4 -fforce-addr
 6  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers
 7  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=4
-falign-jumps=4
 8  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers
-falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4
 9  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr
10  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr
-frename-registers
11  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -O2
12  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -Os
13  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -Os -fomit-frame-pointer
14  -march=pentium3 -mmmx -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=4
-falign-jumps=4
- 

- [ build.sh ]
#!/bin/bash
set -e

base_CFLAGS="-static"
srcdir=${HOME}/src/gnuchess-5.07
exesubdir="src"
exefile="gnuchess"

i=1
while read REPLY; do
cflags="$base_CFLAGS $REPLY"

echo "Building configuration $i using CFLAGS=\"$cflags\""

mkdir -p builddir-$i
pushd builddir-$i >/dev/null
${srcdir}/configure CFLAGS="$cflags"
make clean
make
popd >/dev/null
cp builddir-$i/${exesubdir}/${exefile} ${exefile}-$i
strip ${exefile}-$i

i=$(( $i + 1 ))
done
- 

- [ runtest.sh ]--
#!/bin/bash
set -e

exefile="gnuchess"

runstep() {
depth=$1

i=1
while [ -x ${exefile}-$i ]; do  
echo -en "depth $depth\ngo\nquit" | ./${exefile}-$i | grep '^Time =
' | cut -d" " -f3

i=$(( $i + 1 ))
done
}

#
# $1 - number of times to repeat test
# $2 - solution search depth for gnuchess (8 or 9 are reasonable values)
#

for j in $(seq 1 $1); do
runstep $2 | paste -s
done
- 


If somebody cares about results:

Compiler: gcc version 3.3.2 (Debian)
Cpu: Intel Celeron (Coppermine) stepping 03
Kernel: 2.4.22 (no preemption)
Test environment: console, normal user, (almost) no processes running

Mean times from ./runtest.sh 100 8 and from ./runtest.sh 40 9

 1  9.3130  29.4350
 2  6.7630  21.1125
 3  7.0560  22.3650
 4  7.8630  24.7250
 5  6.8040  21.5450
 6  6.8470  21.9425
 7  6.8190  21.2250
 8  7.0280  22.1375
 9  6.9850  21.8800
10  7.1140  22.3450
11  7.2560  22.9500
12  6.7550  21.4675
13  6.5830  21.0025
14  6.7410  21.4100

I can see that a simple '-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer' (2) does a pretty good
job, and confirm that -Os leads to fast results (in this specific test, of
course).
I'd like to see such a test with a (cpu-intensive) floating-point program
(perhaps povray?)

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Re: [gentoo-user] IDS

[rd]

NP, I understand, as I am a developer also.  Guess I just
have to make the time to hack on 'guardian' and get it to
work w/ iptables.

-later
rdg

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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] IDS
> 
> 
> > What are you using to modify iptables after snort
> detects
> > something bad?
> >
> > With ipchains, I used to use 'guardian' (available from
> > link on snort web page), but have not updated it so it
> will
> > work with iptables yet.
> >
> > Is your work GPL?  I am sure many more experienced IDS
> > users would be interested.
> 
> Since I'm a professional perl programmer, I wrote a
> script for our company
> in perl that reads out snort logs and creates rules for
> iptables.
> But it ain't gpl, only for internal business, sorry.
> 
> >
> > -rdg
> >
> > --- SN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > MessageIf it's a single maschine, then I'd suggest
> snort.
> > >
> > > But as I followed the thread, you don't seem to have
> ever
> > > worked with either snort or prelude, this is bad,
> gentoos
> > > preconfigured scripts suck, to get some out of it you
> > > will have to reconfigure a couple of things.. I have
> > > setup snort on several distros , but they usually had
> one
> > > thing in common a bad start configuration.
> > > I have written some additional scripts, that add
> better
> > > snort support for dialup users and I have added
> support
> > > for automatic blocking through iptables in  case
> snort
> > > detects critical attacks.
> > >
> > > The thing is as someone mentioned earlier, if you
> don't
> > > have a lot of knowledge of real attacks, network
> setup
> > > etc. and if you are not experienced with an ids all
> you
> > > will get is a load of information that you don't know
> how
> > > to interpret.
> > >   - Original Message - 
> > >   From: Chase Jeffery D
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:07 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] IDS
> > >
> > >
> > >   single machine.  This is going to be installed on
> my
> > > firewall machine..
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: SN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:26 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] IDS
> > >
> > >
> > > Depends on your network, single machine or a
> whole
> > > set of machines?
> > >   - Original Message - 
> > >   From: Chase Jeffery D
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:48 PM
> > >   Subject: [gentoo-user] IDS
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hi everyone, Just wondering what Network
> intrusion
> > > detection software is the best.  I've heard the main
> two
> > > programs to use would be Snort or Prelude and am
> > > wondering which of the two gives you more
> > > flexibility(configuration) and better
> > > detection/reporting?
> > >
> > >   Thanks for your help,
> > >   Jeff
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gaim/MSN problem

[Andrew Gaffney]

Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
   I've been unable to connect to MSN using gaim (v0.71 and 0.72) during 
the past two days. Has anybody experienced this? I've been able to 
connect using amsn, so I guess this is a gaim problem.
I'm running gaim-0.72-r1 here with no problems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Thomas Preissler]

Hello,

* Joel wrote on 11/13/03:

> Hi,
> 
> after a week of web digging on the subject "OpenLDAP vs mySQL",
> I just can't found a "nice" answer to my question :
> 
> I have to build a database that will be used for
> - http access authent
> - mail account management (smtp,imap,pop3)
> - system user account
> - address book (really optionnal ;)

Last time I had the same question, should I use MySQL or LDAP for my
addresses... I choosed LDAP, so I am too lazy to design a database
schema and program a GUI. It fulfills nearly all requirements that I
needed, too: Name, address, phone(s), mobile(s), foto(s) and so on.

gq as a LDAP-client is great. The only problem I have is, I can't
store birthdates or similar important dates in an entry.

If you have any further questions conecerning LDAP, dont hesitate to
ask... ;-)) We are Gentoo. And you may send private mail to me.


Greets,
Tom

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[gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....

[Ralph Crongeyer]

Hi Gentoo users,

I just joined the list because I'm installing Gentoo 1.4 on my Toshiba laptop 
as I write this.
I have been using Lunar Linux, so I am familiar with source based distros.

My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of the install).

My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was wondering if anyone is 
using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is there anything 
that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great!

Thanks 

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[gentoo-user] any Opteron/Athlon 64 gentoo users?

[Matt Garman]

I was just curious if anyone on this list is running gentoo on an AMD64
platform, and what the results have been.  I'm interested in the
stability and performance you're seeing.  Are compile times affected?
How does the machine feel?  Any other interesting comments?

Just thought that might make for interesting e-conversation :)

Matt (who certainly don't *need* 64-bit computing right now, but wants
it just to have it :)



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RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> On Friday 14 November 2003 01:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> > here is the problem with that.. Distcc does work like that 
> in 'theory'..
> > But your leaving out several things..Big problem with 
> distcc is that it
> > likes to fail compiles if your using different gcc versions during
> > compiles.. Things of this nature..
> >
> > There should be a document on how to install all this 
> making sure you let
> > whoever know these kinds of issues... Being gentoo is a big 
> compile distro,
> > its good to know these things.
> 
> At the end of emerging distcc, you will see:
> Tips on using distcc with Gentoo can be found at
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml
> 
> That document covers all your questions.
 

I am aware of this..  Isn't that what i said in my letter? I think we are on two 
different tracks here.. Just forget it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 14 November 2003 01:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> here is the problem with that.. Distcc does work like that in 'theory'..
> But your leaving out several things..Big problem with distcc is that it
> likes to fail compiles if your using different gcc versions during
> compiles.. Things of this nature..
>
> There should be a document on how to install all this making sure you let
> whoever know these kinds of issues... Being gentoo is a big compile distro,
> its good to know these things.

At the end of emerging distcc, you will see:
Tips on using distcc with Gentoo can be found at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml

That document covers all your questions.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Andrew B. Panphiloff]

В Чтв, 13.11.2003, в 18:57, Joel CARNAT пишет:
> Hi,
> 
> after a week of web digging on the subject "OpenLDAP vs mySQL",
> I just can't found a "nice" answer to my question :
> 
> I have to build a database that will be used for
> - http access authent

mod_auth_ldap does not support ssl.

> - mail account management (smtp,imap,pop3)
> - system user account

nss_ldap works fine and
qmail + ldap + courier-imap also works fine
but I can't find any tool for easy creating user accounts,
so I use my own perl scripts

> - address book (really optionnal ;)

It's good idea to store addressbook on server.
outlook, mozilla, evolution can get access to it
but only evolution can edit it.

> 
> What should I use ? LDAP or SQL ?
> What would be the 4 or 5 reasons in favour of one or the other ?
> Thanks for the answers,
>   Jo
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RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> gentoo
> -> your already there!
> 
> distcc
> -> emerge distcc. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild
 
> ccache
> -> emerge ccache. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild

  I get this part
 
> tmpfs
> -> if you have lots of ram, run "mount tmpfs 
> /var/tmp/portage". if not, don't.
> 
> For the most part, that's all there is to it. If you want to know the 
> possibilities, use your imagination or wait until somebody 
> else does it and 
> puts it into a nice guide like Spider is talking about.

here is the problem with that.. Distcc does work like that in 'theory'.. But your 
leaving out several things..Big problem with distcc is that it likes to fail compiles 
if your using different gcc versions during compiles.. Things of this nature..

There should be a document on how to install all this making sure you let whoever know 
these kinds of issues... Being gentoo is a big compile distro, its good to know these 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gaim/MSN problem

[Ash Varma]

It seems to me that on Nov 13 2003 at 02:55:15, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote ... 
> 
>I've been unable to connect to MSN using gaim (v0.71 and 0.72) 
> during the past two days. Has anybody experienced this? I've been able 
> to connect using amsn, so I guess this is a gaim problem.
> 

gaim 0.72 works fine for me.

Ash

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 14 November 2003 00:52, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:39:25 +0100
> > Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Just in case - does anyone know (or wants to write)
> > > an article about the best way how to setup:
> > >
> > >gentoo + distcc + ccache + tmpfs
> >
> > Contact me in priv and I'll make a rough draft, which you can
> > formalize
> > using the Gentoo Documentation Policy. I'll even host it for you. ;)
>
> Let us lowly pee-ons know when this is finished, I wouldn't mind seeing
> this Doc as I am always looking to make my compiles faster.. I wouldn't
> mind checking out ccache..

Here's a quick run-down:

gentoo
-> your already there!

distcc
-> emerge distcc. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild

ccache
-> emerge ccache. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild

tmpfs
-> if you have lots of ram, run "mount tmpfs /var/tmp/portage". if not, don't.

For the most part, that's all there is to it. If you want to know the 
possibilities, use your imagination or wait until somebody else does it and 
puts it into a nice guide like Spider is talking about.

Jason

P.S. I cast my vote for the first developer of the month award to Spider. Are 
there any other developers that frequent -user and actively offer direct 
support to the user community so frequently?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:57:45 +0100
Joel CARNAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> after a week of web digging on the subject "OpenLDAP vs mySQL",
> I just can't found a "nice" answer to my question :
> 
> I have to build a database that will be used for
> - http access authent
> - mail account management (smtp,imap,pop3)
> - system user account
> - address book (really optionnal ;)
> 
> What should I use ? LDAP or SQL ?
> What would be the 4 or 5 reasons in favour of one or the other ?




I'd say LDAP, simply because this is ldap's hometurf, user management
and information. However, ldap interface is clunky at times. 

SQL would be usable, but I don't think it'd be the optimal for this
usage area, as sql is more generic, and thus not as wellperforming.
Besides, LDAP is a treeview, whereas SQL is flat down, which gives LDAP
a better state for a thing like this.


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[gentoo-user] OpenLDAP or mySQL : how to choose ?

[Joel CARNAT]

Hi,

after a week of web digging on the subject "OpenLDAP vs mySQL",
I just can't found a "nice" answer to my question :

I have to build a database that will be used for
- http access authent
- mail account management (smtp,imap,pop3)
- system user account
- address book (really optionnal ;)

What should I use ? LDAP or SQL ?
What would be the 4 or 5 reasons in favour of one or the other ?

Thanks for the answers,
Jo

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RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> begin  quote
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:39:25 +0100
> Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Just in case - does anyone know (or wants to write)
> > an article about the best way how to setup:
> > 
> >gentoo + distcc + ccache + tmpfs
> > 
> > (question of the month ? :)
> 
> 
> Contact me in priv and I'll make a rough draft, which you can 
> formalize
> using the Gentoo Documentation Policy. I'll even host it for you. ;)

Let us lowly pee-ons know when this is finished, I wouldn't mind seeing
this Doc as I am always looking to make my compiles faster.. I wouldn't
mind checking out ccache..


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[gentoo-user] Re: Yahoo videos

[Danyel Lawson]

I use kmplayer and have setup the asf and wmv mime file types to use the
embedded mplayer.  I originally installed it with kmplayer but I think
kmplayer may now be part of kde-multimedia.  I always have to select the
video format before each video.  I select Windows Media and it plays
embedded in a konqueror window.  If I select Real it usually never actually
plays because Realplayer doesn't seem to embed properly.  But on other
sites with Real content I get a prompt to select the application to open it
with and use Realplayer for Linux.  I haven't dared to try the Real One
player for Linux yet.  The embedding also works for Quicktime movies like
on the matrix site.  Only problem is that recently it seems that all of the
high res Quicktime clips have an error encoded into them that kills the
clip a few seconds into the clip.  Even the lower res Quicktime clips don't
always work anymore.

on Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:42 am Harlan wrote:

> I have some family members that want to switch to Gentoo Linux, they are
> getting very tired of M$ windows constantly failing, slow performance,
> etc.
> 
> They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo.  I have not been able to find
> any
> software that will play these.  Any ideas???
> 
> I have installed Windows Media Player 6.4 under Wine, but have no idea how
> to get it working with a web browser.
> 
> I would prefer a native Linux solution.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harlan...
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:39:25 +0100
Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Just in case - does anyone know (or wants to write)
> an article about the best way how to setup:
> 
>gentoo + distcc + ccache + tmpfs
> 
> (question of the month ? :)


Contact me in priv and I'll make a rough draft, which you can formalize
using the Gentoo Documentation Policy. I'll even host it for you. ;)


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RE: [gentoo-user] arrow keys in dosemu

[Mark Knecht]

> On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 01:07:25PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Possibly this has something to do with the keyboard driver you are
> > calling, or the specific keyboard you are using, and not dosemu
> > itself?
>
> In my initial post, I was running dosemu under aterm (within X
> obviously).  I also tried it within cygwin rxvt (under windows) and
> ssh'ing to my machine.  With these two cases, the arrow keys did not
> work.
>
> However, I also tried running dosemu under a plain old Linux virtual
> console (i.e. no X).  This time the arrow keys worked correctly.  Back
> in X, I also tried it under a "vanilla" xterm and it worked.
>
> Hopefully I'll get a chance to do some more investigating tonight, but
> right now it appears the problem has something to do with how my
> terminal passes keystrokes to dosemu.
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
> Matt

Interesting. I was running a standard xterm yesterday when I tested, so
following on I just tried dosemu under Eterm. The arrow keys work, but the
Alt key doesn't, so I cannot get back to the menu when I try to get out of
FreeDOS Edit. Like you, I am fine in the console which is where I'll
probably use this anyway.

I think there is much to figure out, both about what disk image to run as
well as what terminals work and don't work.

- Mark



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Re: [gentoo-user] my network's gone (SOLVED)

[mathieu]

Le Jeudi 13 Novembre 2003 14:39, lodger a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > After booting this morning I had the bad surprise of finding that my
> > network's gone.
> > '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart' gave me this:
> > 'eth0 is not plugged in or had no carrier signal'
> > I've haven't emerged anything network related yesterday. I've checked the
> > line, it seems ok, there is a light on my hub and on my card. lsmod
> > showed my card's module (8139too), dmesg showed my card as eth0, lscpi
> > saw my card too. There is no error beside this in /var/log/whatever
> > I rebooted under windows (just to check) and the network was there,
> > running fine.
> > I've got another network interface but it give me the same error.
> > Googling hasn't been helpful at all.
>
> I assume you emerged baselayout-1.8.6.12 and did the etc-update which had
> some probs with net.eth. So check out bugzilla #33272 for the fix. It
> worked for me.
> lodger

Yes, that's it. thanks.
actually I had finally tought it could come from the script and changed the 
bogus line with 
carrier_IFACE="running"
that's a stupid fix, but it worked fine.
thanks again.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos

[Chris Carter]

The stream comes in WMP9 format in most (if not all) cases.

> -Original Message-
> From: SN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 13 November 2003 13:55
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos
> 
> 
> I don't have to try it :-)
> 
> I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, 
> if you know what I mean :-)
> 
> So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michele Di Trani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos
> 
> 
> > > > They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo.  I have 
> not been able 
> > > > to
> >
> > Wich kind of codec is used for these Yahoo Videos? In Linux you can 
> > easily watch divx, xvid, mpg, wmv, asf, realmedia, avi, mov..
> >
> > (have you tried emerging Xine or Mplayer?)
> >
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RE: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos

[Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)]

Well that sounds like a challenge...:)

-Original Message-
From: SN

I don't have to try it :-)

I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, if you know what
I mean :-)

So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more.

- Original Message - 
From: "Michele Di Trani"

> > > They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo.  I have not been able to
>
> Wich kind of codec is used for these Yahoo Videos? In Linux you can easily
> watch divx, xvid, mpg, wmv, asf, realmedia, avi, mov..
>
> (have you tried emerging Xine or Mplayer?)

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[gentoo-user] qt 3.2.2-r1 and kdelibs 3.1.4 problems, anyone having the same.

[Sigurd Stordal]

When I try to update kdelibs and qt blocks eachother, and I've found out that 
I have to go into the qt-3.2.2-r1 ebuild and change the !

RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get gcc-config to do anything?

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> > Is gcc emerged correctly? 
> 
> I'm not sure .. it looks a bit screwy. Why the N in the
> first emerge feedback below?
> 
> blommie i18n # emerge -p gcc
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r8

Here is why gcc-config isn't working.. run the above without the -p and things will 
magically work. That is the only gentoo version that allows gcc-config work before 
upgrading ver 3.

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RE: [gentoo-user] fcrontab' editor

[Jeffrey Smelser]

Gentoo uses the $EDITOR variable where others may not. You must remember the fcron is 
probably ran on many different linux's, unixs and whatever else.. So you need a 
default in the conf for those systems...

and gentoo doesn't require it either... So technically not all gentoo's don't have a 
$EDITOR variable set.

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Wednesday 12 November 2003 09:58 am, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> | cron always uses the $EDITOR variable first.. So its right.
> |
> | Whats the problem?
> 
> | > % grep editor /etc/fcron/fcron.conf
> | > # Location of the default editor for "fcrontab -e"
> | > editor  =   /usr/bin/vim
> | >
> 
> And the purpose of this variable in fcron.conf is what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] my network's gone

[Kevin Buyting]

On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:25, mathieu wrote:
> Hi,
> After booting this morning I had the bad surprise of finding that my
> network's gone.
> '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart' gave me this:
> 'eth0 is not plugged in or had no carrier signal'
> I've haven't emerged anything network related yesterday. I've checked the
> line, it seems ok, there is a light on my hub and on my card. lsmod showed
> my card's module (8139too), dmesg showed my card as eth0, lscpi saw my card
> too. There is no error beside this in /var/log/whatever
> I rebooted under windows (just to check) and the network was there, running
> fine.
> I've got another network interface but it give me the same error.
> Googling hasn't been helpful at all.
> I'm lost now. Please send any idea so I can check them all when I get back
> home tonight.
> TIA

It's sure the current baselayout 
try replaceing the line
if [ "${carrier_IFACE}" = "running" ]
with 
if [ "${carrier_IFACE}" != "running" ]
in your newly updated 
/etc/init.d/net.eth0

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Re: [gentoo-user] arrow keys in dosemu

[Matt Garman]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 01:07:25PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Possibly this has something to do with the keyboard driver you are
> calling, or the specific keyboard you are using, and not dosemu
> itself?

In my initial post, I was running dosemu under aterm (within X
obviously).  I also tried it within cygwin rxvt (under windows) and
ssh'ing to my machine.  With these two cases, the arrow keys did not
work.

However, I also tried running dosemu under a plain old Linux virtual
console (i.e. no X).  This time the arrow keys worked correctly.  Back
in X, I also tried it under a "vanilla" xterm and it worked.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to do some more investigating tonight, but
right now it appears the problem has something to do with how my
terminal passes keystrokes to dosemu.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage seems to be against my will

[Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos]

> > I used to have simgear and flightgear installed for some time but last
> > week I unemerged them. However when I make emerge -up --deep world now I
> > get
> >
> > [ebuild  N] dev-games/simgear-0.3.4
> > [ebuild  N] games-simulation/flightgear-0.9.3
> >
> > as the last lines of the list! I don't want them. Any ideas on why they
> > might be showing up?
> 
> # nano /var/cache/edb/world
> 
> Remove the lines containing simgear and flightgear from that file. That's
> all. :)
> 

The problem is... I don't have any lines on that file that mention
simgear or flightgear.


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Re: [gentoo-user] my network's gone

[lodger]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:25:24 +0100
mathieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> After booting this morning I had the bad surprise of finding that my network's 
> gone.
> '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart' gave me this: 
> 'eth0 is not plugged in or had no carrier signal'
> I've haven't emerged anything network related yesterday. I've checked the 
> line, it seems ok, there is a light on my hub and on my card. lsmod showed my 
> card's module (8139too), dmesg showed my card as eth0, lscpi saw my card too. 
> There is no error beside this in /var/log/whatever
> I rebooted under windows (just to check) and the network was there, running 
> fine.
> I've got another network interface but it give me the same error.
> Googling hasn't been helpful at all.
I assume you emerged baselayout-1.8.6.12 and did the etc-update which had some probs 
with net.eth. So check out bugzilla #33272 for the fix.
It worked for me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get gcc-config to do anything?

[Jean Jordaan]

gcc-config (I believe) checks your /usr/lib/gcc-lib/ folder for entries. 
blommie i18n # ls /usr/lib/gcc-lib/
i686-pc-linux-gnu
blommie i18n # ls /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/
2.95.3  3.0.4
Is gcc emerged correctly? 
I'm not sure .. it looks a bit screwy. Why the N in the
first emerge feedback below?
blommie i18n # emerge -p gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r8
blommie i18n # emerge -p unmerge gcc

>>> These are the packages that I would unmerge:
!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/net-ftp/ncftp!!! Invalid db entry: 
/var/db/pkg/net-misc/tightvnc
 sys-devel/gcc
selected: 3.0.4-r6 2.95.3-r5 2.95.3
   protected: none
 omitted: none

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get gcc-config to do anything?

[Jean Jordaan]

hmm.. What version of gcc you running?? You MUST be running 2.95-3 (I think)
or later to use this..
blommie i18n # gcc --version
2.95.3
The env its talking about is /etc/env.d/gcc.. If you don't have that.. I
would suspect your copy of gcc is older...
blommie i18n # ls /etc/env.d/*gcc*
/etc/env.d/05gcc  /etc/env.d/05gcc-3.0
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hosed .. "vartree instance has no attribute 'invalidentry'"

[Jean Jordaan]

For the impatient, running /usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.py, and then
(if necessary) delete the lock files it reports.
fix-db.py doesn't report lockfiles .. it does report about a
million messages like this, though:
"""
ERROR: COUNTER file missing from 'x11-plugins/wmsysmon-0.7.6'.
ERROR: COUNTER file missing from 'x11-plugins/wmCalClock-1.25'.
ERROR: SLOT file is empty for 'sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.18'.
   RE-MERGE this exact package version or unmerge and remerge it.
ERROR: COUNTER file missing from 'sys-kernel/linux-sources-2.4.17'.
ERROR: SLOT file is empty for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.19-r3'.
   RE-MERGE this exact package version or unmerge and remerge it.
ERROR: COUNTER file missing from 'dev-tex/latex2html-2000.1b'.
ERROR: COUNTER file missing from 'x11-base/xfree-4.2.0'.
[...]
net-nds/openldap-2.0.21: (damaged/invalid) []
   COUNTER is missing
x11-wm/gnustep-env-0.1: (old package) []
   SLOT is empty
net-misc/dhcpcd-1.3.20_p0-r1: (old package) []
   SLOT is empty
"""
I have no idea how portage on this box got into such a state ..
we haven't been keeping it up-to-the-minute, but did rsync and
emerge portage every month or so ..
I don't have any lockfiles in /var:

blommie i18n # find /var/db/pkg/ -name "*lockfile*"
blommie i18n #
so the advice in the referenced bug doesn't get me into the clear.

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Re: [gentoo-user] libssl: error [fixed--not really]

[Gëzim]

> Of course you really should revdep-rebuild to
> correct this, rather than
> the dirty link I suggested in the related bug...
But I did (now that you said):
revdep-rebuild --soname libssl.so.0.9.6

and it says:
[snip]
!!! Error: --soname is an invalid option.


How do I do this "revdep-rebuild thingy"? 

Note:
I also did:
bash-2.05b# revdep-rebuild
[snip]
Calculating dependencies
emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to
satisfy "=app-arch/file-roller-2.2.3".

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.




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[gentoo-user] Gnome2 print compilation error

[Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos]

Hi, When I emerge gnome2-print I get the following error:

>>> emerge (6 of 97) dev-perl/gnome2-print-0.5 to /
>>> Downloading
http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/Gnome2-Print-0.5.tar.gz
--04:50:48-- 
http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/Gnome2-Print-0.5.tar.gz
   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/Gnome2-Print-0.5.tar.gz'
Resolving proxy.inesc-id.pt... 146.193.32.5
Connecting to proxy.inesc-id.pt[146.193.32.5]:3128... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 16,225 [application/x-gzip]
 
100%[>] 16,22589.84K/s
 
04:50:49 (89.68 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/Gnome2-Print-0.5.tar.gz'
saved [16225/16225]
 
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) Gnome2-Print-0.5.tar.gz
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking Gnome2-Print-0.5.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/gnome2-print-0.5/work
>>> Source unpacked.
found package libgnomeprintui-2.2, using it
2 GBoxed
1 GEnum
1 GFlags
6 GObject
7 GtkObject
Cannot load Gnome2::Install::Files: Can't locate Gnome2/Install/Files.pm
in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2
/usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 .) at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/ExtUtils/Depends.pm line 98.
 
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
 
!!! ERROR: dev-perl/gnome2-print-0.5 failed.
!!! Function perl-module_src_compile, Line 49, Exitcode 2


Is this a known issue? Is there any straightforward solution?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gtkspell emerge fail

[Jason Stubbs]

On Thursday 13 November 2003 21:54, Budd, Tracy wrote:
> This is the last few lines before the failure. Does anyone know how to
> fix this?
>
> 
> -- Installing ./html/tutorial.html
> -- Installing ./html/index.sgml
> /bin/install: cannot stat `./html/index.sgml': No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [install-data-local] Error 1

There should be a line somewhere before this explicitly stating that there was 
an error.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos

[SN]

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos


>
> --- SN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No chance, there is no linux player that will work at the moment.
>
>
> You must know something that we don't Stefan.

Yes I do know a bit more about it, the codec isn't the problem, you just
don't get the stream, sorry but I'm not sure if I'm athorized to comment on
this.

Linux can play every
> codec that I know of. Atleast the popular ones that everyone else seems
> to use.
>
> Which "Yahoo video's" are you assuming that Harlan is talking about?

Yahoo Launch, Musik Videos etc, which are streamed, otherwise he wouldn't
have a problem with them :-)

> Just curious. :P
>
> Thanks,
> JBanks
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Harlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:42 AM
> > Subject: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos
> >
> >
> > > I have some family members that want to switch to Gentoo Linux,
> > they are
> > > getting very tired of M$ windows constantly failing, slow
> > performance,
> > etc.
> > >
> > > They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo.  I have not been able
> > to find
> > any
> > > software that will play these.  Any ideas???
> > >
> > > I have installed Windows Media Player 6.4 under Wine, but have no
> > idea how
> > to
> > > get it working with a web browser.
> > >
> > > I would prefer a native Linux solution.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Harlan...
> > >
> > >
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Re: [gentoo-user] IDS

[SN]

- Original Message - 
From: "rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] IDS


> What are you using to modify iptables after snort detects
> something bad?
>
> With ipchains, I used to use 'guardian' (available from
> link on snort web page), but have not updated it so it will
> work with iptables yet.
>
> Is your work GPL?  I am sure many more experienced IDS
> users would be interested.

Since I'm a professional perl programmer, I wrote a script for our company
in perl that reads out snort logs and creates rules for iptables.
But it ain't gpl, only for internal business, sorry.

>
> -rdg
>
> --- SN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MessageIf it's a single maschine, then I'd suggest snort.
> >
> > But as I followed the thread, you don't seem to have ever
> > worked with either snort or prelude, this is bad, gentoos
> > preconfigured scripts suck, to get some out of it you
> > will have to reconfigure a couple of things.. I have
> > setup snort on several distros , but they usually had one
> > thing in common a bad start configuration.
> > I have written some additional scripts, that add better
> > snort support for dialup users and I have added support
> > for automatic blocking through iptables in  case snort
> > detects critical attacks.
> >
> > The thing is as someone mentioned earlier, if you don't
> > have a lot of knowledge of real attacks, network setup
> > etc. and if you are not experienced with an ids all you
> > will get is a load of information that you don't know how
> > to interpret.
> >   - Original Message - 
> >   From: Chase Jeffery D
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:07 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] IDS
> >
> >
> >   single machine.  This is going to be installed on my
> > firewall machine..
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: SN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] IDS
> >
> >
> > Depends on your network, single machine or a whole
> > set of machines?
> >   - Original Message - 
> >   From: Chase Jeffery D
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:48 PM
> >   Subject: [gentoo-user] IDS
> >
> >
> >   Hi everyone, Just wondering what Network intrusion
> > detection software is the best.  I've heard the main two
> > programs to use would be Snort or Prelude and am
> > wondering which of the two gives you more
> > flexibility(configuration) and better
> > detection/reporting?
> >
> >   Thanks for your help,
> >   Jeff
> >
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos

[SN]

I don't have to try it :-)

I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, if you know what
I mean :-)

So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more.

- Original Message - 
From: "Michele Di Trani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos


> > > They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo.  I have not been able to
>
> Wich kind of codec is used for these Yahoo Videos? In Linux you can easily
> watch divx, xvid, mpg, wmv, asf, realmedia, avi, mov..
>
> (have you tried emerging Xine or Mplayer?)
>
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[gentoo-user] gtkspell emerge fail

[Budd, Tracy]

This is the last few lines before the failure. Does anyone know how to
fix this?
TIA
-Tracy


-- Installing ./html/tutorial.html
-- Installing ./html/index.sgml
/bin/install: cannot stat `./html/index.sgml': No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [install-data-local] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtkspell-2.0.4/work/gtkspell-2.0.4/docs'
make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtkspell-2.0.4/work/gtkspell-2.0.4/docs'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: app-text/gtkspell-2.0.4 failed.
!!! Function einstall, Line 361, Exitcode 2
!!! einstall failed


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with 'emerge sync'

[Jernej Zidar]

I reeived this error when I did a Stage3 install and I had a bunch of
packages in /usr/portage/poackages/

I "solved" this problem bz emptying the packages directory.

Jernej Zidar

- Original Message - 
From: "David Gethings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:07 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] Problems with 'emerge sync'


> Every time I do an 'emerge sync' I get the following error message:
>
>  ** Skipping packages. Run 'fixpackages' or set it in FEATURES to fix
> the
> tbz2's in the packages directory. Note: This can take a very long
> time.
>
> So I run 'fixpackages' and sure enough it fixes stuff. And sure enough
> it takes a *long* time!
>
> This has happened a few times now. On every occasion the I get the
> following error messages:
>
> !!! Cannot update binary: Destination exists.
> !!! sys-apps/raidtools-1.00.3-r1 -> sys-fs/raidtools-1.00.3-r1
> ..!!! Cannot update binary: Destination exists.
> !!! app-admin/dosfstools-2.8-r3 -> sys-fs/dosfstools-2.8-r3
>
> I plan to unmerge then emerge both these ebuilds in an attempt to stop
> this problem in the future. Is this the right course of action, or is
> there a better way to solve this problem.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dg
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[gentoo-user] mod_phps for apache1 AND apache2

[Timo Boettcher]

Hi,

  I am testing apache2 with php now, and after doing
   USE="apache2" emerge mod_php
  apache1 didn't have php anymore...
   USE="-apache2" emerge mod_php
  gave me php for apache1 but killed it for apache2.
  Is there any way to have portage maintain mod_php for BOTH apaches?
  Similar Problem: I didn't manage to get pcmcia_cs installed for more
  then one kernel... I guess that'll be the same with nvidia_kernel,
  alsa_driver, 

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[gentoo-user] Problems with 'emerge sync'

[David Gethings]

Every time I do an 'emerge sync' I get the following error message:

 ** Skipping packages. Run 'fixpackages' or set it in FEATURES to fix
the
tbz2's in the packages directory. Note: This can take a very long
time.

So I run 'fixpackages' and sure enough it fixes stuff. And sure enough
it takes a *long* time!

This has happened a few times now. On every occasion the I get the
following error messages:

!!! Cannot update binary: Destination exists.
!!! sys-apps/raidtools-1.00.3-r1 -> sys-fs/raidtools-1.00.3-r1
..!!! Cannot update binary: Destination exists.
!!! app-admin/dosfstools-2.8-r3 -> sys-fs/dosfstools-2.8-r3

I plan to unmerge then emerge both these ebuilds in an attempt to stop
this problem in the future. Is this the right course of action, or is
there a better way to solve this problem.

Cheers

Dg


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[gentoo-user] Gaim/MSN problem

[Jose Gonzalez Gomez]

   I've been unable to connect to MSN using gaim (v0.71 and 0.72) 
during the past two days. Has anybody experienced this? I've been able 
to connect using amsn, so I guess this is a gaim problem.

   Regards
   Jose
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo & java (solved)

[Oliver Lange]

jkw wrote:
java-config --set-system-vm=blackdown-jdk-1.4.1

Thank you.. :)

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[gentoo-user] Compile power ?

[Oliver Lange]

Hello,

Just in case - does anyone know (or wants to write)
an article about the best way how to setup:
  gentoo + distcc + ccache + tmpfs

(question of the month ? :)

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