[gentoo-user] Force emerge to rebuild target system

2003-12-15 Thread Christoph Schäfer
Hi, for some reason I forgot to mount /proc before doing "emerge system" 
on a fresh gentoo install.
Is there any way to force emerge to get and recompile the whole thing 
agagin? Since some packages seem to fail to compile due missing /proc...

Best regards, Christoph

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[gentoo-user] partition resizing inside of Gentoo

2003-12-15 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   After spending a lot of time yesterday in System Commander resizing
my partitions, I wished that I had had the time before I started to find
out about Linux-based partition resizing tools so that I might have been
able to use the system while some of this was going on. I've done no
reading yet, but was wondering if there are tools that can both resize
and move existing partitions while they are potentially in use? Is this
possible, or do I have to drop out of Linux completely while I do this
sort of thing?

   For now, I only use ext2 & ext3, and possibly one of these days
reiserfs if possible. That likely makes a bit of difference I'm sure.

   Thanks for whatever pointers you can provide.

Cheers,
Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] Iso : To be or not to be bootable ...

2003-12-15 Thread Jim
On Monday 15 December 2003 11:41 am, Oliver Lange wrote:
> Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> > Burn it, pop in the CD, reboot. ;)
>
> How can i check if the new Ferrari can accelerate to 100 Km/h in under 6
> seconds ?
>
> ---> buy one, then test it. :)
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage over nfs

2003-12-15 Thread Tom Hosiawa
> > From what I've read, it's not a good idea to use async with nfs for
> > mounting /usr/portage because file corruption could happen with multiple
> > clients doing emerge sync.
> 
> Well.. If your doing this in the first place.  Your not really benefiting from 
> the idea anyway.. The idea is to only rsync with one server and all the 
> others just read it. Why in the hell would you rsync from more then on 
> server?

I wouldn't, just giving an example from what I read where file
corruption could happen.

> > So I'm thinking, is there anything wrong with having /usr/portage
> > ro,async and havin distfile and packages rw,sync (ofcourse no longer as
> > a subdirectory of /usr/portage)?
> 
> This is actually the idea behind it.

Is it really worth it though, will using async give me much better
performance or should I just stick to sync for everything?

Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on another machine?

2003-12-15 Thread Nick Fisher
> I was wondering if there was a way to use my desktop machine to compile
> for my laptop when I `emerge -uD world`. I would like to use my desktop
> because it is 4x the 600Mhz that the laptop is.
You might want to look into distcc. Basicly distcc hands of some of the
compiling work from one machine to one or more others. The down side is
that you need a deecent speed connection between the machines. No
using the server at work as a distcc host over a low speed line. The up
side is that there are no dependancy problems. You drop it in and go.
Read all about it here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml

For me, I have a 166Mhz w 80MB thinkpad I'm playing with and distcc didn't
help nearly as much as having the server do all the work. Portage does
have the ability to build binary packages... that you can then tsfr
(rsync,http,ftp) to annother system and merge at a fraction of the load a
full build would take. It sounds great but I'm finding alot of gotchas
along the way. The upside is speed but the downside is that it's fiddly
and you need to know what your doing in portage. An additional downside is
there doesn't appear to be alot of doc writen on this subject.

  Nick

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 and mod_auth_pgsql

2003-12-15 Thread Ted Ozolins
James Orr wrote:

The mod_auth_pgsql does not seem to work with apache 2.

I have apache2 in my USE in make.conf
 

Wrong version of mod_auth_pgsql You'll have to go to:

http://www.giuseppetanzilli.it/mod_auth_pgsql2/dist/

and grab a new release of mod_auth_pgsql2. You will have to change the makefile as everything is incorrect. ie: it looks for /usr/local/ for apxs instead of /usr/sbin for apxs and not apxs2.

THe first three lines need to be changed to reflect the location of the lib and incl's.

APACHE2_HOME=/usr
PGSQL_LIB=/usr/lib/postgresql
PGSQL_INCLUDE=/usr/include/postgresql
then the line where it looks for apxs needs to be changed so it will find apxs2

shared:
	${APACHE2_HOME}/sbin/apxs2  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread John Gilger
On 12/15/03 3:41 PM, "Harald Arnesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic School
>> Bus" and others that my boy likes, I would simply ditch windows
>> entirely.
> 
> You have tried Wine, Win4Lin and VMWare?
Not yet, I'm still growing my Gentoo install one package at a time. I have
VMWare on a Win2K box at work that boots to Debian quite well, but I like
what Knoppix does better.

Do you think WINE is a good choice?

John


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[gentoo-user] Compiling on another machine?

2003-12-15 Thread George Mathews

I was wondering if there was a way to use my desktop machine to compile for my laptop 
when I `emerge -uD world`. I would like to use my desktop because it is 4x the 600Mhz 
that the laptop is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread John Gilger
On 12/15/03 9:21 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:39:13 -0800
> John Gilger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/14/03 7:12 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Following the instructions in the Gentoo installation guide, I
> haven't> been able to get Windows XP to boot.
>> 
>> Fdisk shows that hda1 is the Windows D: drive, a locked
>>> restoration>>> tool. hda2 is the Windows C: drive where everything
>>> is. hda2 is>>> bootable.
>> 
>>> title Wondows XP
>>> rootnoverify (hd0,1)
>>> makeactive
>>> chainloader +1
>>> 
>>> This Should work. You shouldn't need the map statements, as the
>>> partition is on the first drive. "Map" is used when you have to
>>> trick windows into thinking it's the 1st drive.
>> 
>> The help everyone offered is appreciated. At least now GRUB bounces
>> back to the menu screen instead of crashing. It still will not boot
>> WinXP. Could it be that GRUB doesn't work with NTFS partitions? Does
>> LILO?
> 
> Your next step is to hide the 1st partition and unhide the 2nd. (This is
> from the grub info page, btw)
> 
> like so:
> 
> title Wondows XP
> unhide (hd0,1)
> hide (hd0,0)
> rootnoverify (hd0,1)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
> 
> You state that hda1 is a locked restoration drive, is it possible that
> it is interfering with the operation of grub?
> 
> Is it possible you hosed the boot partition with grub install? I am not
> too proud to admit that I've done it in the past, it tends to make that
> disk/partition unbootable regardless of what I did to it later...
> 
> Have you been able to boot into the windows partition at all? Do you
> have a windows boot disk to check?
> 
> You can get one at:
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
> 
> Good luck!
I found what I needed at bootdisk.com. My Windows side is happy again.
Thanks!
Now, after I do a little more cleaning on my windows, I go back to trying to
persuade GRUB to boot both systems ;-)

John


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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 03:14, collins wrote:
> On Monday 15 December 2003 16:18, Bryce wrote:
> > On Monday 15 December 2003 03:41 pm, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic
> > > > School Bus" and others that my boy likes, I would simply ditch
> > > > windows entirely.
> > >
> > > You have tried Wine, Win4Lin and VMWare?
> >
> > I was going to suggest WineX, but the other suggestion may work as
> > well.
>
> There is also Codeweavers Crossover.

Every so often I download the trial version of this but it's always 
failed to install.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage over nfs

2003-12-15 Thread Jeff Smelser
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On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:41 pm, Tom Hosiawa wrote:
> From what I've read, it's not a good idea to use async with nfs for
> mounting /usr/portage because file corruption could happen with multiple
> clients doing emerge sync.

Well.. If your doing this in the first place.  Your not really benefiting from 
the idea anyway.. The idea is to only rsync with one server and all the 
others just read it. Why in the hell would you rsync from more then on 
server?

> So I'm thinking, is there anything wrong with having /usr/portage
> ro,async and havin distfile and packages rw,sync (ofcourse no longer as
> a subdirectory of /usr/portage)?

This is actually the idea behind it.

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[gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem

2003-12-15 Thread Daniel Jiseok Song








Whe using mozilla mail, I can send e-mail via SMTP with secure
authentication server. I just check “Use secure authentication” checkbox, it’s done.

But using Kmail, I always fail to send. It just saying my IP is
rejected relaying by the mail server.

There are some menus for selecting authentication in Kmail (I
think login method is used in that mail server.) But any of them goes same, rejected.

How can I send a mail via SMTP secure authentication server
with Kmail?

 

Thanks
in advance ,



Daniel
Jiseok Song



 








Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread collins
On Monday 15 December 2003 16:18, Bryce wrote:
> On Monday 15 December 2003 03:41 pm, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic School
> > > Bus" and others that my boy likes, I would simply ditch windows
> > > entirely.
> >
> > You have tried Wine, Win4Lin and VMWare?
>
> I was going to suggest WineX, but the other suggestion may work as well.
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Refresh Gnome menus without restarting?

2003-12-15 Thread Steven Elling
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 14:17, Tom Wesley wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > Is there a way to refresh the Gnome Applications menu without logging 
> > out? When I emerge something new, it doesn't show up in the menu until I 
> > log out and in again.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Joel Konkle-Parker
> > Webmaster [Ballsome.com]
> > 
> > Phone [+1 662-518-1636]
> > E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I did some googling, it suggests installing fam, although I haven't tried 
> it I will be later...

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Re: [gentoo-user] aghhh ! this is driving me nuts...

2003-12-15 Thread Marcin Daczkowski
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:04:14 -0800
Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> so i decided to compile dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6k and
> net-misc/openssh-3.7.1_p2-r1 "by hand". i had no problems in getting
> both of them to build  !!!
> 
> i am using gcc-3.2.3 and glibc is 2.3.2
> 
> any help will be greatly appreciated. aghh this is driving me nuts :(
> 
> thanks
> anupam

hellow ;) i have had similar problem with libwww which has been
compiling successfuly only by hand. the problem in my case were compiler
flags from make.conf, which afair are not included when compiling by
hand. After removing -DNDEBUG & -DG_DISABLE_ASSERT from
/etc/make.conf i've emerged libwww successfuly. so check ur CFLAGS in
make.conf, maybe it is the reason of emerge failure.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Bryce wrote:
On Monday 15 December 2003 03:41 pm, Harald Arnesen wrote:

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic School
Bus" and others that my boy likes, I would simply ditch windows
entirely.
You have tried Wine, Win4Lin and VMWare?

Educational CDs ? Maybe programs that don't require much CPU power ?
In this case, VMWare will at least do the job, even if slower.
VMWare simulates the mainboard, one could say. Windows won't recognize
that the system (hardware) around it is only emulated.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote:
Sure I've used a SQL DB. A file stored in a DB is slower to load than a file
on disk. This doesn't speak to indexing and cacheing that a DB might have
(not to mention that DBs are usually way better machines than your desktop).
Of course, you can apply these techniques to files on disk as well.
Yes, 'a file'. Just have a look into:

/usr/portage
/var/cache/edb
/var/db/pgk
Where i found more than 75,000 files in more than 12,500 directories...
Actions like fopen() and dir reads take much more steps than fetching
the info from a database. On the other hand, one can modify things
manually with the current system. However.. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi, 

Thanks Elton, Øyvind, Norbert and Christopha first, I really got more
solid idea on what should I do, however...

It seems that your solution has suggested exim/qmail/postfix, but my ISP
has port the incoming 25port, that why I initially stated that I'd like
to use fetch mail to act as a POP3 client from the isp pop3 server. With
my limited knowledge, postfix (and the likes) are MTA so, what do it
fullfil my needs,
except relay my outgoing mail to a ISP smtp server?

Thanks very much!
Zarick

在 2003-12-15 Mon 的 19:31, Norbert Kamenicky 写道:
> I solved exactly the same situation using
> 
> qmail + courier imap + sqwebmail + ...
> 
> so from any PC I can reach my mails minimally via the web browser
> if I like to use Mozilla, Kmail ... I have to configure it first time.
> 
> noro
> 
> 
> Zarick Lau wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have used evolution for a long time, but actually I want to seek some
> >changes as it was so trouble to getting my mail on one desktop system
> >only.
> >
> >Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive and
> >store my email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup different
> >desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
> >lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
> >box...
> >
> >I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get my
> >mail from isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 server
> >right.
> >
> >And my question is, which pop3 server is better?
> >
> >Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
> >used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?
> >
> >Would you mind give me some sugguestion??
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Zarick
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread Bryce
On Monday 15 December 2003 03:41 pm, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic School
> > Bus" and others that my boy likes, I would simply ditch windows
> > entirely.
>
> You have tried Wine, Win4Lin and VMWare?

I was going to suggest WineX, but the other suggestion may work as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Iso : To be or not to be bootable ...

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Ciortea Cristian wrote:

I was wondering if there is a way to check and see if a .iso is 
bootable ..
Anybody has a clue ?
Yes, it's possible ...

AFAIK bootable CD must fulfill "El Torito"
specification,
Short answer:

if on the addres 8800h  (17-th sector)
u will find string similar to: 
blabla ... "EL TORITO SPECIFICATION"
it should be bootable.

Long answer:

check short answer +
on address 8847h is a 4-byte pointer to catalog
of bootable floppy images (from specs CD can have
more boot images, like lilo or grub)
Pointer to first image is on addres 28h in the catalog.
Now u can find and analyze this image (or copy it to floppy)
and check if it is really bootable.
But to be 100% sure, burn it on RW and check,
on minimally 3 different PC's  if it not boots,
since there can be still bug in FW of CDROM,
bug in BIOS ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread Harald Arnesen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic School
> Bus" and others that my boy likes, I would simply ditch windows
> entirely.

You have tried Wine, Win4Lin and VMWare?
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Re: [gentoo-user] defragmentation

2003-12-15 Thread Harald Arnesen
Redeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hi, is it possible to defragment ext3 or any other unix filesystem?

xfs has xfs_fsr, but wether it is necessary to defragment a Unix
filesystem is another matter.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Banks wrote:
> > 
> > I didn't see really see an answer. What I saw was you saying that
> you
> > were curious now and that was it. You didn't say one way or another
> > that you wanted or needed any help. So I left it alone. Sometimes
> > people react weird when someone offers help, so I didn't wan't to
> push
> > it (so to say). 
> > 
> 
> This is how people might misunderstand each other :). however,
> I luckily didn't need to make use of your gentle offer to help me
> personally (i'm sure you knew that because shorewall is just
> idiot-safe)
> but, however, I was very thankful simply for the offer.
> just to make that really clear...
> 
> :)


Thansk Oliver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] correct single sample errors after ripping CDs

2003-12-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 04:21, Jimmy Rosen wrote:
> Hi, I'm trying to rescue some old CDs that have gone all scratchy.
>
> When ripping them with cdparanoia I get several "pop/click/snap", where one
> single sample is way out of whack. It's simple to fix a few of them
> manually in a wave editor, but not when there's a lot of them.
>
> I've been searching for something that can fix this automagically.
>
> Does anyone have a good suggestion?

The only tools I know of for this are on Windows - such as Sound Forge. On 
Linux, the best I can come up with is using a low bandpass filter with sox. 
That wont get rid of the pops, though; it'll just lower their volume.

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Re: [gentoo-user] defragmentation

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Redeeman wrote:

hi, is it possible to defragment ext3 or any other unix filesystem?

 

AFAIK it's not needed (it cames from unix FS philosofy),
but possible by backup-delete-restore procedure,
(which is the fastest method for windblowz as well ...
from where u  have the need for it :-)  )
Specialized tools are not needed, these are just to spend
much more time and earn money (on M$).
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread bjgilger
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2003/12/15 Mon PM 12:21:03 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB
> 
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:39:13 -0800
> John Gilger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 12/14/03 7:12 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Following the instructions in the Gentoo installation guide, I
> > >>> haven't> been able to get Windows XP to boot.
> >  
> >  Fdisk shows that hda1 is the Windows D: drive, a locked
> > >restoration>>> tool. hda2 is the Windows C: drive where everything
> > >is. hda2 is>>> bootable.
> >  
> > > title Wondows XP
> > > rootnoverify (hd0,1)
> > > makeactive
> > > chainloader +1
> > > 
> > > This Should work. You shouldn't need the map statements, as the
> > > partition is on the first drive. "Map" is used when you have to
> > > trick windows into thinking it's the 1st drive.
> > 
> > The help everyone offered is appreciated. At least now GRUB bounces
> > back to the menu screen instead of crashing. It still will not boot
> > WinXP. Could it be that GRUB doesn't work with NTFS partitions? Does
> > LILO?
> 
> Your next step is to hide the 1st partition and unhide the 2nd. (This is
> from the grub info page, btw)
> 
> like so:
> 
> title Wondows XP
> unhide (hd0,1)
> hide (hd0,0)
> rootnoverify (hd0,1)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
> 
> You state that hda1 is a locked restoration drive, is it possible that
> it is interfering with the operation of grub?
> 
> Is it possible you hosed the boot partition with grub install? I am not
> too proud to admit that I've done it in the past, it tends to make that
> disk/partition unbootable regardless of what I did to it later... 
> 
> Have you been able to boot into the windows partition at all? Do you
> have a windows boot disk to check? 
> 
> You can get one at:
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -- 
> Happiness is a hard disk.
> 
> --

Yes, I hosed the boot partition.  Windows will not boot at all :(

Thanks for the tip about bootdisk.com. The restore files that came with my computer 
(the restoration drive) are 6 CDs, but all that the system wants to do with them is a 
format and re-install -- wiping out all my data files.

If the the windows boodisk from bootdisk.com won't fix my problem, I'm either going to 
have to recompile my gentoo kernel with NTFS support and create a FAT partition on hdb 
to copy files to while I do the format and reload of hda or install Win2K on hdb to 
copy and save my files while I do the format and reload.

If linux systems would play educational CDs like "The Magic School Bus" and others 
that my boy likes, I would simply ditch windows entirely.

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RE: [gentoo-user] correct single sample errors after ripping CDs

2003-12-15 Thread John Arrowwood
From: Jimmy Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi, I'm trying to rescue some old CDs that have gone all scratchy.
Go buy a Disc Doctor and buff out as many of the scratches as possible!!!  
It works wonders.

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Re: [gentoo-user] defragmentation

2003-12-15 Thread SN

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From: "Redeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gentoo Maillinglist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] defragmentation


> hi, is it possible to defragment ext3 or any other unix filesystem?

Yes it is, but usually not needed fragmentation occurs under linux
filesystems only if partitions are close to full.
Basically a linux filesystem will self defrag over the time unless partitons
are always filled up to the last byte.
If you only use up to 75% of you r partition you won't get any
fragmentation.

The easiest way to defrag a linux partition is to just move data to one
partition and then back to the other, this already defrags a partition.


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Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Redeeman
please send to me, thanks!

On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 21:43, Elton Algera wrote:
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> I agree with the other mails; imap is better for your goal.
> 
> I have fetchmail and exim with cyrus-imap.
> 
> Exim can be configured to include virusscanning and spamfiltering. ( 
> Spamassassin, amavis)
> 
> So, no more virii and a lot less spam...
> 
> If you like, I can send you the config files, it can save you a day or 
> two...
> 
> Elton 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Zarick Lau wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have used evolution for a long time, but actually I want to seek some
> > changes as it was so trouble to getting my mail on one desktop system
> > only.
> > 
> > Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive and
> > store my email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup different
> > desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
> > lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
> > box...
> > 
> > I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get my
> > mail from isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 server
> > right.
> > 
> > And my question is, which pop3 server is better?
> > 
> > Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
> > used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?
> > 
> > Would you mind give me some sugguestion??
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Zarick
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[gentoo-user] defragmentation

2003-12-15 Thread Redeeman
hi, is it possible to defragment ext3 or any other unix filesystem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

2003-12-15 Thread SN
But you said grub is telling you to supply a valid root= , no?
Now you say, that your kernel panics, I'm not sure where you are at the
moment, because if you get message to secify a correct root=, then we are
still in grubs part, if you managed to pass that and now we have a kernel
panic then you are a ste further.

Also what do you want to tell us, with "I configured this for the disks and
my kernel panics."

There are two options in th kernel config which are related to the sis
chipset:

a) sis chipset agp support
b) sis chipset ide support

Be a little more precise where you encounter the problem(kernelpanic) ,
maybe messages before, and which sis options in kernel you used and what
else you thought you configured that you think has to do with sis.





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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel


On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:20:29 +0100, "SN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Why don't you supply your grub.conf so we can tell you  what you did wrong
>:-)

I played around and I noticed that it isn't my understanding of GRUB but
that
I configured the kernel wrong. I don't understand what is really wrong
because
I looked into /proc/pci and there I I saw that my motherboard (Asus P4S333)
has SIS chipset. I configured this for the disks and my kernel panics.

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[gentoo-user] Mailing list downtime Dec 17, 2003 1500UTC - 1900UTC

2003-12-15 Thread Kurt Lieber
Subject line pretty much says it all.

The mailing lists will be down for approximately four hours on Wednesday as
we migrate things over to a new server.  The lengthy downtime is due to the
large amount of information that must be copied over from one server to the
next.

Messages sent to a mailing list during this period will be queued and
delivered later once the new server is up and running.

--kurt


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Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Elton Algera
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Hi,

I agree with the other mails; imap is better for your goal.

I have fetchmail and exim with cyrus-imap.

Exim can be configured to include virusscanning and spamfiltering. ( 
Spamassassin, amavis)

So, no more virii and a lot less spam...

If you like, I can send you the config files, it can save you a day or 
two...

Elton 





On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Zarick Lau wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have used evolution for a long time, but actually I want to seek some
> changes as it was so trouble to getting my mail on one desktop system
> only.
> 
> Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive and
> store my email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup different
> desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
> lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
> box...
> 
> I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get my
> mail from isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 server
> right.
> 
> And my question is, which pop3 server is better?
> 
> Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
> used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?
> 
> Would you mind give me some sugguestion??
> 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)
Sure I've used a SQL DB. A file stored in a DB is slower to load than a file
on disk. This doesn't speak to indexing and cacheing that a DB might have
(not to mention that DBs are usually way better machines than your desktop).
Of course, you can apply these techniques to files on disk as well.

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Lange

Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote:
> 
> Using a SQL DB would increase the data stored on the harddisk. It is also
> slower than raw file access. The deal breaker is that you don't want to
> depend on a SQL DB for minimal installs.

?? Did you ever use a SQL db ? Responses for queries within such 'tiny'
databases
(only 70,000 entries) come within a finger snap. qpkg needs several seconds
for a query on a 2 GHz machine.

You're right about the problem of choosing the right SQL database to be
installed.
If i'd suggest to add MySQL or Postgres to gentoo-stage-2, i would no doubt
get a million of answers from people who'd call me crazy.

Of course it would have to be a *tiny* and *independent* instance of a
database
which shouldn't conflict with any other installation of the same
(or other) database(s) for other purposes. I see that this is kinda problem,
but the advantages were great, especially for beginners who could
easily learn to handle things, and - as a side effect - learn SQL..

Well, just an idea.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Simon
just: emerge --emptytree -vp world | grep "-alsa"

On Monday 15 December 2003 18:09, Przemysław Maciąg wrote:
> W liście z pon, 15-12-2003, godz. 14:52, Przemysław Maciąg pisze:
> > W liście z pon, 15-12-2003, godz. 14:18, Joel Konkle-Parker pisze:
> > > Quoting Norbert Kamenicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> > > > >On Monday 15 December 2003 04:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > > > >>I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the
> > > >
> > > > installed
> > > >
> > > > >>packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible without
> > > some shell hacking.
> >
> > There is a very nice app called epm - very similar to rpm.
> >
> > Simply:
> > emerge epm
> > epm -qa | grep "-alsa"
>
> Usss Sorry - of course epm isn't the right tool for doing this.
> My mistake! :(
>
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[gentoo-user] correct single sample errors after ripping CDs

2003-12-15 Thread Jimmy Rosen
Hi, I'm trying to rescue some old CDs that have gone all scratchy.

When ripping them with cdparanoia I get several "pop/click/snap", where one 
single sample is way out of whack. It's simple to fix a few of them 
manually in a wave editor, but not when there's a lot of them.

I've been searching for something that can fix this automagically.

Does anyone have a good suggestion?

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

2003-12-15 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:20:29 +0100, "SN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Why don't you supply your grub.conf so we can tell you  what you did wrong
>:-)

I played around and I noticed that it isn't my understanding of GRUB but that
I configured the kernel wrong. I don't understand what is really wrong because
I looked into /proc/pci and there I I saw that my motherboard (Asus P4S333)
has SIS chipset. I configured this for the disks and my kernel panics.

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[gentoo-user] Portage help / Teapop compiled with APOP?

2003-12-15 Thread Kato Wulf
Hello,

I want to find out if teapop was compiled with the APOP feature 
(specifically, if my passwords are being sent in plain text or not).

Is anyone familiar with this package?

Can anyone help me to navigate to the correct place to find out how a 
specific package (such as teapop) was compiled?

Best, and thanks in advance

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Re: [gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)

2003-12-15 Thread john gennard
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:54:02AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Monday 15 December 2003 10:16 schrieb ext john gennard:
> > For the final run through with genkernel, there was no
> > choice, but that's no problem - I'll put lilo on a floppy
> > right away. Wrong! I'm told 'no such device' whilst
> > /dev/fd0 exists and this error continues to be so no matter
> > what I put into /etc/fstab. Nowhere in the literature, or
> > the massive forum archives can I find an help.
> Exists where? In fstab or is there /dev/fd0 and what does it look like? Do 
> you have /dev/floppy/0? If not, try modprobe floppy.
> 
I meant /fd0 exists in /dev directory as does about a couple of
dozen of varieties (eg /fd0u1440). 
It shows 'brw-rw   1  root   floppy  2   etc'.

/dev/fd1 also exists, but I never have more than one floppy.
The reference to fstab was to arrange to mount /dev/fd0 on
/floppy or /mnt/floppy as the install put nothing at all there.

Modprobe does nothing other than give out an error message 'can't
open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-gss/modules.dep - no
such file or directory'. I'm not surprised as the kernel
compiled by genkernel was '2.4.20-gentoo-r6' which is what
/lib/modules has. By the way, there is no file /etc/modules.conf -
is this a Gentoo thing?

> > Whilst looking in /dev, I also noticed there were no
> > /cdroms to be seen, but the /etc/fstab has '/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 etc'.
> > That's really confused me, and I feel very stupid as by now
> > this is the type of problem I ought to be able to solve.
> Load the kernel module for cdrom support (modprobe ide-cd or modprobe 
> sr-mod).
> 
modprobe doesn't work here for the same reasons as above.

May be I should go back and manually compile a kernel - I've normally
no problem in doing that and I generally include everything I need,
leaving only three modules.

Thanks for responding Dirk - I'm grateful.

Regards,John.
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Joshua Banks wrote:
I didn't see really see an answer. What I saw was you saying that you
were curious now and that was it. You didn't say one way or another
that you wanted or needed any help. So I left it alone. Sometimes
people react weird when someone offers help, so I didn't wan't to push
it (so to say). 

This is how people might misunderstand each other :). however,
I luckily didn't need to make use of your gentle offer to help me
personally (i'm sure you knew that because shorewall is just idiot-safe)
but, however, I was very thankful simply for the offer.
just to make that really clear...
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[gentoo-user] Re: Iso : To be or not to be bootable ...

2003-12-15 Thread Eamon Caddigan
Ciortea Cristian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to check and see if a .iso is bootable ..
> Anybody has a clue ?

Just a guess... 
od [-t x1] filename.iso | less

I'm going from memory here -- so please excuse any innacuracies -- but
the first several 2048-byte sectors of a non-bootable iso are filled
with zeros. Therefore, if you have data in the first sector, you've
probably got a bootable iso. Whether the boot sector works, however, is
probably more difficult to determine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread nealbirch
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:39:13 -0800
John Gilger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/14/03 7:12 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>  Following the instructions in the Gentoo installation guide, I
> >>> haven't> been able to get Windows XP to boot.
>  
>  Fdisk shows that hda1 is the Windows D: drive, a locked
> >restoration>>> tool. hda2 is the Windows C: drive where everything
> >is. hda2 is>>> bootable.
>  
> > title Wondows XP
> > rootnoverify (hd0,1)
> > makeactive
> > chainloader +1
> > 
> > This Should work. You shouldn't need the map statements, as the
> > partition is on the first drive. "Map" is used when you have to
> > trick windows into thinking it's the 1st drive.
> 
> The help everyone offered is appreciated. At least now GRUB bounces
> back to the menu screen instead of crashing. It still will not boot
> WinXP. Could it be that GRUB doesn't work with NTFS partitions? Does
> LILO?

Your next step is to hide the 1st partition and unhide the 2nd. (This is
from the grub info page, btw)

like so:

title Wondows XP
unhide (hd0,1)
hide (hd0,0)
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1

You state that hda1 is a locked restoration drive, is it possible that
it is interfering with the operation of grub?

Is it possible you hosed the boot partition with grub install? I am not
too proud to admit that I've done it in the past, it tends to make that
disk/partition unbootable regardless of what I did to it later... 

Have you been able to boot into the windows partition at all? Do you
have a windows boot disk to check? 

You can get one at:
http://www.bootdisk.com/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Przemysław Maciąg
W liście z pon, 15-12-2003, godz. 14:52, Przemysław Maciąg pisze: 
> W liście z pon, 15-12-2003, godz. 14:18, Joel Konkle-Parker pisze: 
> > Quoting Norbert Kamenicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> > > 
> > > >On Monday 15 December 2003 04:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the
> > > installed
> > > >>packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks in advance.
> > Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible without some
> > shell hacking.
> There is a very nice app called epm - very similar to rpm.
> 
> Simply:
> emerge epm
> epm -qa | grep "-alsa"
Usss Sorry - of course epm isn't the right tool for doing this.
My mistake! :(

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh yeah. I just got rid of documents saying 'routing is a pretty
> straightforward
> task', followed by 1 lines of text..
> 
> Errrm, wasn't it you who wrote me the long mail, offering personal
> help
> for the case I still ran into problems ?

Yes
 
> I guess you've indeed missed my answer. However, thank you again
> for the gentle help.

I didn't see really see an answer. What I saw was you saying that you
were curious now and that was it. You didn't say one way or another
that you wanted or needed any help. So I left it alone. Sometimes
people react weird when someone offers help, so I didn't wan't to push
it (so to say). 

Doesn't sound as though you needed any help anyways, just a slight
suggestive SELL.. Heh.. Heh.. :D. So you've got your basics down, thats
for sure. Nice job.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Iso : To be or not to be bootable ...

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
Burn it, pop in the CD, reboot. ;)

How can i check if the new Ferrari can accelerate to 100 Km/h in under 6 seconds ?

---> buy one, then test it. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 and mod_auth_pgsql

2003-12-15 Thread James Orr
I did manage to get it working by installing directly from the source,
but the version of mod_auth_pgsql needed for apache 2 is not in portage
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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote:
Using a SQL DB would increase the data stored on the harddisk. It is also
slower than raw file access. The deal breaker is that you don't want to
depend on a SQL DB for minimal installs.
?? Did you ever use a SQL db ? Responses for queries within such 'tiny' databases
(only 70,000 entries) come within a finger snap. qpkg needs several seconds
for a query on a 2 GHz machine.
You're right about the problem of choosing the right SQL database to be installed.
If i'd suggest to add MySQL or Postgres to gentoo-stage-2, i would no doubt
get a million of answers from people who'd call me crazy.
Of course it would have to be a *tiny* and *independent* instance of a database
which shouldn't conflict with any other installation of the same
(or other) database(s) for other purposes. I see that this is kinda problem,
but the advantages were great, especially for beginners who could
easily learn to handle things, and - as a side effect - learn SQL..
Well, just an idea.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
Jason Stubbs wrote:

On Monday 15 December 2003 12:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the installed
packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
Thanks in advance.


# grep -l '-alsa' `find /var/db/pkg/*/*/USE`


That will likely give you *every* package. Try something like:

cd /var/db/pkg
for i in $(grep -l 'alsa' */*/IUSE | cut -d '/' -f 1-2); do grep 
"\-alsa" ${i}/USE; done
That's what I get for posting without testing. This will work a little better.

for i in $(grep -l 'ssl' */*/IUSE | cut -d '/' -f 1-2); do grep "\-ssl" ${i}/USE > 
/dev/null && echo ${i}; done

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[gentoo-user] apache2 and mod_auth_pgsql

2003-12-15 Thread James Orr
The mod_auth_pgsql does not seem to work with apache 2.

I have apache2 in my USE in make.conf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root # emerge mod_auth_pgsql
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) net-www/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12.tar.gz
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12/work
>>> Source unpacked.
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O3 -mcpu=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe
) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O3 -mcpu=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe
) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for static Apache module support... no
checking for Apache module support via DSO through APXS... ./configure:
line 1: /usr/sbin/apxs: No such file or directory
./configure: line 1: /usr/sbin/apxs: No such file or directory
found at /usr/sbin/apxs
checking for pgsql... configure: error: cannot find PostgreSQL include
files at specified location
/usr/sbin/ebuild.sh: line 16: /usr/sbin/apxs: No such file or directory
 
>>> Install mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12 into
/var/tmp/portage/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12/image/ category net-www
install: cannot stat `mod_auth_pgsql.so': No such file or directory
man:
prepallstrip:
strip:
>>> Completed installing into
/var/tmp/portage/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12/image/
 
./
./usr/
./usr/lib/
./usr/lib/apache-extramodules/
>>> Done.
>>> extracting info
>>> extracting mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12
>>> Merging net-www/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12 to /
--- /usr/
--- /usr/lib/
>>> /usr/lib/apache-extramodules/
 
 *
 * To have Apache run auth_pgsql programs, please do the following:
 * 1. Execute the command:
 *  "ebuild
/var/db/pkg/net-www/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12.ebuild
config"
 * 2. Edit /etc/conf.d/apache and add "-D AUTH_PGSQL"
 *
>>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 * Caching service
dependencies...
 [ ok ]>>> net-www/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12 
merged.
>>> Recording net-www/mod_auth_pgsql in "world" favorites file...
 
>>> clean: No packages selected for removal.
 
>>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 * Caching service
dependencies...
 [ ok ]>>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
 
>>> No outdated packages were found on your system.
 

 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root # ebuild
/var/db/pkg/net-www/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12/mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.12.ebuild
config
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Re: [gentoo-user] Iso : To be or not to be bootable ...

2003-12-15 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Ciortea Cristian wrote:
I was wondering if there is a way to check and see if a .iso is bootable ..
Anybody has a clue ?
Burn it, pop in the CD, reboot. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Joshua Banks wrote:
Glad to here it. This probably saved you 5000 (kidding ofcourse) more
hours of iptables how-to and routing how-to. They (Shorewall) actually
have some pretty interesting stuff that goes accrosed they're email
list at times. I would consider checking that out as well. 

Oh yeah. I just got rid of documents saying 'routing is a pretty straightforward
task', followed by 1 lines of text..
Errrm, wasn't it you who wrote me the long mail, offering personal help
for the case I still ran into problems ?
I guess you've indeed missed my answer. However, thank you again
for the gentle help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
Oliver Lange wrote:

If somebody is singing oda's about GUI and clicking,
I like to ask him to solve this problem:
Give me the first 2000 most frequently used words
in english newspapers!
Okay okay, you're right, no-one will ever add a menu entry
in a GUI-driven tool named 'Give me the first  most frequently
used words in  newspapers'.
For such tasks we have got the shell, perl, python, php, C/C++, ...

But: this example is a little unfair. Tell me: how many people
would click on such a button (or menu entry) during all-day
desktop sessions ?
IMHO, typical user action might be kinda more basic, like searching
for installed software, or searching any non-binary file for
strings, and the like.
Believe it or not: i couldn't find a really good file manager for
Linux. I tried many, like Krusader, gnome-commander, gentoo, worker,
nautilus, x-files... the smartest thing i could find is still the
good old Midnight Commander, but that thing also lacks of lotsa
features, not to mention that it's shell-based.. unfortunately,
WindowsCommander (now named TotalCommander), started under wine,
won't do good because it doesn't know about Linux file properties
(permissions etc.).
Without good power tools, the shell is, unfortunately, the only
good answer when it comes to all-day system & file management.
Ever used Nautilus or Windows Explorer ? OMG... i feel sorry for
people who don't know better tools.. :)
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[gentoo-user] Iso : To be or not to be bootable ...

2003-12-15 Thread Ciortea Cristian
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[gentoo-user] aghhh ! this is driving me nuts...

2003-12-15 Thread Anupam Kapoor
hi all,
i am having some strange problems in emerging
net-misc/openssh-3.7.1_p2-r1. i am always getting build failures with
these messages:

,
| (cd openbsd-compat && make)
| gcc -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialized -I. -I.  
-DSSHDIR=\"/etc/ssh\" -D_PATH_SSH_PROGRAM=\"/usr/bin/ssh\" 
-D_PATH_SSH_ASKPASS_DEFAULT=\"/usr/lib/misc/ssh-askpass\" 
-D_PATH_SFTP_SERVER=\"/usr/lib/misc/sftp-server\" 
-D_PATH_SSH_KEY_SIGN=\"/usr/lib/misc/ssh-keysign\" -D_PATH_SSH_PIDDIR=\"/var/run\" 
-D_PATH_PRIVSEP_CHROOT_DIR=\"/var/empty\" 
-DSSH_RAND_HELPER=\"/usr/lib/misc/ssh-rand-helper\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c authfd.c
| make[1]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/openssh-3.7.1_p2-r1/work/openssh-3.7.1p2/openbsd-compat'
| gcc -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialized -I. -I.. -I. -I./..  
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c bsd-arc4random.c
| gcc -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialized -I. -I.. -I. -I./..  
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c bsd-cray.c
| gcc -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialized -I. -I.. -I. -I./..  
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c bsd-cygwin_util.c
| In file included from /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h:65,
|  from /usr/include/openssl/evp.h:127,
|  from authfd.c:40:
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:243: syntax error 
before "BN_ULONG"
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:249: syntax error 
before '}' token
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:257: syntax error 
before "BIGNUM"
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:259: syntax error 
before '*' token
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:262: syntax error 
before '}' token
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:268: syntax error 
before "BIGNUM"
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:270: syntax error 
before "Ni"
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:272: syntax error 
before "n0"
| /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/openssl/bn.h:274: syntax error 
before '}' token
`

so i decided to compile dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6k and
net-misc/openssh-3.7.1_p2-r1 "by hand". i had no problems in getting
both of them to build  !!!

i am using gcc-3.2.3 and glibc is 2.3.2

any help will be greatly appreciated. aghh this is driving me nuts :(

thanks
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RE: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)
>-Original Message-
>From: Oliver Lange
>
>mathieu perrenoud wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I fully agree. But emerge -ep world | grep '-alsa' can hardly be called
shell hacking.
>> 
>
>Instead of that cryptic shell stuff (i mean in general), I'd like to have
the
>portage tree and all it's stuff put into a simple SQL database. Then you
could
>talk to your computer in clear english, like this:
>
>select name from packages where USE = '-alsa'
>
>(something like that)
>
>Doesn't that look pretty easy to learn & bear in mind ?
>
>This would also reduce the enourmous number of files & dirs on the
harddisk.
>I just wrote my own updatedb script which excludes /usr/portage and
>/var/cache/edb, else each locate command completely floods the shell
>line buffer(s) with hits from these two paths..
>
>Not to mention the extreme high speed which an SQL database would provide,
>compared to qpkg searches thru' the filesys...

Using a SQL DB would increase the data stored on the harddisk. It is also
slower than raw file access. The deal breaker is that you don't want to
depend on a SQL DB for minimal installs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Banks wrote:
> > 
> > And what was the final solution Oliver? I must of missed one of
> your
> > postings.
> > 
> 
> Only one word: shorewall. Configuring that thing was done in 30
> minutes,
> incl. reading the quick setup guide, configuring routing,
> policies/rules
> and port forwarding. It's so easy that even me myself and I had no
> problem
> at all. No glitches, just runs smoothly and takes care of everything.
> Before i installed shorewall, i couldn't even ping thru' the router
> to the internet, now i got a top-class firewall running..

Only one word: Cool

Glad to here it. This probably saved you 5000 (kidding ofcourse) more
hours of iptables how-to and routing how-to. They (Shorewall) actually
have some pretty interesting stuff that goes accrosed they're email
list at times. I would consider checking that out as well. 

Anyways, I bet that feels a little better. Pretty smooth "a"...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Oliver Lange wrote:

Norbert Kamenicky wrote:

h ...   shell scripting is one of the thing  which give us
freedom/power and  easy way to solve different daily problems
in simple/easy way (indeed after some experience).
Let see microshit ... even for simple tasks havy guns like C/C++ ...
BASIC ;-)  (S cames from stupid)  are needed :-o.
Yep, using Windows is like using a car without having the ignition key..

But, on the other hand, i've learned to love GUI applications.
In the earlier days (on the Amiga), i also used to call myself as
'shell lover', nothing could come between me and my shell - then I
started using DirectoryOpus, and my shell bias was over.
Under Windows, you need to know which tools you need, else better
sell your computer and search for another hobby. With professional
GUI tools which make intelligent use of keyboard shortcuts for
everything, I eventually used a shell for approx. 5 minutes per month.
With Linux, it's all about back to oldskool (shell), because most
GUI applications are lightyears away from comfort. For example,
when i use something like a search dialog, and i cannot close it
with the escape key (just to name one of a zillion things),
i can understand why everybody prefers using the shell, and why
everybody says that shell stands for flexibility and speed..
The trouble is that one needs years of hard learning to get things
done quick & efficiently..
blablabla. :)

If somebody is singing oda's about GUI and clicking,
I like to ask him to solve this problem:
Give me the first 2000 most frequently used words
in english newspapers!
First part - collecting some newspapers pages from
web site is quite simple ...
but then they have to start to count words on fingers
or using russian invention called "sczoty"
(balls on wire) :-)
or start to programm havy application.
On the other hand in linux/unix environment
it's possible to write relatively simple shell
script  in couple of minutes (which will run terrible
slow comparing to C/C++), but anyway
the output will be available much faster ...
noro

PS.
Some people like to spend time with cross-word,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR

2003-12-15 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 12/15/03 Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

> Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
>> Hello all, After some seven months of -happily- using gentoo, I see
>> my /var/tmp is
>> huge. My questions: Is there any reason to keep the content of this
>> directory?
>> Can I without danger delete files in it when a package is installed?
>> If it is possible is there some automatic way to do it?
>> TIA,
>
> you may well delete /var/tmp/portage/* as long as you're not currently
> emerging some software. For example:
>
> rm -R /var/tmp/portage/*
>
> that might be done at bootup, for example you may add that command to
> the /etc/conf.d/local.start script.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
Ok, so maybe not shell hacking. But there needs to be some sort of easy way to
do the following:
- Build system using OSS (+oss -alsa)
- Decide later to switch to ALSA (+/-oss +alsa)
- Tell portage to remerge everything previously merged with "-alsa" to reflect
the change
This seems like a pretty common scenario, and something that should definately
be doable without a lot of trouble.
I already asked myself what to do with my full-blown destop box if I'd decide to
switch from gnome to kde.. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
mathieu perrenoud wrote:


I fully agree. But emerge -ep world | grep '-alsa' can hardly be called shell
hacking.
Instead of that cryptic shell stuff (i mean in general), I'd like to have the
portage tree and all it's stuff put into a simple SQL database. Then you could
talk to your computer in clear english, like this:
select name from packages where USE = '-alsa'

(something like that)

Doesn't that look pretty easy to learn & bear in mind ?

This would also reduce the enourmous number of files & dirs on the harddisk.
I just wrote my own updatedb script which excludes /usr/portage and
/var/cache/edb, else each locate command completely floods the shell
line buffer(s) with hits from these two paths..
Not to mention the extreme high speed which an SQL database would provide,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
h ...   shell scripting is one of the thing  which give us
freedom/power and  easy way to solve different daily problems
in simple/easy way (indeed after some experience).
Let see microshit ... even for simple tasks havy guns like C/C++ ...
BASIC ;-)  (S cames from stupid)  are needed :-o.
Yep, using Windows is like using a car without having the ignition key..

But, on the other hand, i've learned to love GUI applications.
In the earlier days (on the Amiga), i also used to call myself as
'shell lover', nothing could come between me and my shell - then I
started using DirectoryOpus, and my shell bias was over.
Under Windows, you need to know which tools you need, else better
sell your computer and search for another hobby. With professional
GUI tools which make intelligent use of keyboard shortcuts for
everything, I eventually used a shell for approx. 5 minutes per month.
With Linux, it's all about back to oldskool (shell), because most
GUI applications are lightyears away from comfort. For example,
when i use something like a search dialog, and i cannot close it
with the escape key (just to name one of a zillion things),
i can understand why everybody prefers using the shell, and why
everybody says that shell stands for flexibility and speed..
The trouble is that one needs years of hard learning to get things
done quick & efficiently..
blablabla. :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting mathieu perrenoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Le Lundi, 15 Décembre 2003 14.45, Norbert Kamenicky a écrit :
> > >Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible
> without
> > > some shell hacking.
> > >  
> >
> > h ...   shell scripting is one of the thing  which give us
> > freedom/power and  easy way to solve different daily problems
> > in simple/easy way (indeed after some experience).
> 
> I fully agree. But emerge -ep world | grep '-alsa' can hardly be called
> shell
> hacking.

Ok, so maybe not shell hacking. But there needs to be some sort of easy way to
do the following:

- Build system using OSS (+oss -alsa)
- Decide later to switch to ALSA (+/-oss +alsa)
- Tell portage to remerge everything previously merged with "-alsa" to reflect
the change

This seems like a pretty common scenario, and something that should definately
be doable without a lot of trouble.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Joshua Banks wrote:
And what was the final solution Oliver? I must of missed one of your
postings.
Only one word: shorewall. Configuring that thing was done in 30 minutes,
incl. reading the quick setup guide, configuring routing, policies/rules
and port forwarding. It's so easy that even me myself and I had no problem
at all. No glitches, just runs smoothly and takes care of everything.
Before i installed shorewall, i couldn't even ping thru' the router
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Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Zarick Lau wrote:
Hi,

I have used evolution for a long time, but actually I want to seek some
changes as it was so trouble to getting my mail on one desktop system
only.
Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive and
store my email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup different
desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
box...
I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get my
mail from isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 server
right.
And my question is, which pop3 server is better?

Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?
Would you mind give me some sugguestion??

Thanks!
Zarick


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I used postfix, courier imap, fetchmail and procmail for a similar 
solution (using the maildir format for mail storage). I gathered mail 
from all my different accounts(using fetchmail) onto my own machine, 
which ran an IMAP server (and a mailserver for my own domain). I used 
procmail for sorting the mail. This way I could reach all my mail from 
anywhere, with any client, using my own server. Be sure to read up on 
security when setting things up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?

2003-12-15 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
N. Owen Gunden wrote:
>
> I followed this procedure, but it hasn't been working out.  Problems
> I'm experiencing now include:
>  - The nvidia kernel module doesn't work (freezes during
> initialization)
>  - wine segfaults
>  - mplayer segfaults
>
> Note that I did these things carefully with testing in-between.  After
> upgrading the kernel (and re-emerging nvidia-kernel), all three of the
> above worked fine.  It seems that as soon as I emerged glibc with
> +nptl things started breaking.  I tried re-emerging wine and mplayer
> to no avail.
>
> Maybe I should try some other apps that use pthreads?  Anyone know of
> any?
>
> I will happily divulge more information in exchange for any tips :).
>

I found it best to set the NPTL use flag and then rebuild the entire system
at once:

# emerge -DeU world

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread mathieu perrenoud
Le Lundi, 15 Décembre 2003 14.45, Norbert Kamenicky a écrit :
> >Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible without
> > some shell hacking.
> >  
>
> h ...   shell scripting is one of the thing  which give us
> freedom/power and  easy way to solve different daily problems
> in simple/easy way (indeed after some experience).

I fully agree. But emerge -ep world | grep '-alsa' can hardly be called shell
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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Przemysław Maciąg
W liście z pon, 15-12-2003, godz. 14:18, Joel Konkle-Parker pisze: 
> Quoting Norbert Kamenicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> > 
> > >On Monday 15 December 2003 04:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the
> > installed
> > >>packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks in advance.
> Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible without some
> shell hacking.
There is a very nice app called epm - very similar to rpm.

Simply:
emerge epm
epm -qa | grep "-alsa"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible without some
shell hacking.
 

h ...   shell scripting is one of the thing  which give us
freedom/power and  easy way to solve different daily problems
in simple/easy way (indeed after some experience).
Let see microshit ... even for simple tasks havy guns like C/C++ ...
BASIC ;-)  (S cames from stupid)  are needed :-o.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto backup w2k with streamer in Gentoo machine?

2003-12-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Monday 15 December 2003 15:35 schrieb ext Peter Eis:
> Timo Boettcher wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >  I have two machines here, one workstation that has Windows 2000 Pro
> >  installed, and one server that runs Gentoo and has a Streamer. How
> >  can I backup the W2K workstation with the streamer in the linux
> >  server?
>
> Have a look at arkeia http://www.arkeia.com/arkeialight.html
> For 1 server and up to 2 clients it's free

Or try out Amanda (http://www.amanda.org/).

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto backup w2k with streamer in Gentoo machine?

2003-12-15 Thread Peter Eis
Timo Boettcher wrote:

Hi,

 I have two machines here, one workstation that has Windows 2000 Pro
 installed, and one server that runs Gentoo and has a Streamer. How
 can I backup the W2K workstation with the streamer in the linux
 server?
 

Have a look at arkeia http://www.arkeia.com/arkeialight.html
For 1 server and up to 2 clients it's free
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Timo Boettcher wrote:
> > 
> > Just for the record (I saw you got your solution) there is also the
> > Gentoo-Router-Howto on the wiki of the Gentoo-Server-Project
> > http://www.subverted.net/wakka/wakka.php?wakka=RouterHowto
> > The site was down over the last few days, so I couldn't give you
> the
> > link earlier.
> > 
> 
> Yep, I already landed on the site while doing my mega-routing
> research,
> but now i got my solution. Thank you.


And what was the final solution Oliver? I must of missed one of your
postings.

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[gentoo-user] Howto backup w2k with streamer in Gentoo machine?

2003-12-15 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi,

  I have two machines here, one workstation that has Windows 2000 Pro
  installed, and one server that runs Gentoo and has a Streamer. How
  can I backup the W2K workstation with the streamer in the linux
  server?
  I had some ideas, but I am not sure which of them is best.
  
  1. Boot the workstation with the installed Windows, and use
 smb-network-shares to mount the partitions on the server, backup
 them with tar there.
 I guess it will fail because of the files in use.
  2. Boot the workstation with linux (knoppix or gentoo bootcd), then
 mount all partitions (ntfs) and ssh it on the server.
 tar cv /mnt/ | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "dd of=/dev/nst0"
 or would that be
 tar cv /mnt/ | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "tar -f /dev/nst0"
  3. Boot the workstation with linux (knoppix or gentoo bootcd), then
 dd all partitions and ssh it on the server.
 dd if=/dev/sda1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "dd of=/dev/nst0"
 or would that be
 dd if=/dev/sda1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "tar -f /dev/nst0"



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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Norbert Kamenicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> 
> >On Monday 15 December 2003 04:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the
> installed
> >>packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >what about this one?
> >emerge -evp world | grep '-alsa' | awk '{print $4}'
> >
> >it doesn't look like a jpeg's bindump.
> >Is it missing something?
> >
> >  
> >
> Definitelly this is not the script which gives the proper answer
> to given question!
> 
> This answers which package will, (but not was - it's a BIG difference)
> be emerged  without alsa flag ... so if alsa flag is set the output is
> null,
> but there is no reason to say ebuild wasn't emerged without the flag.
> 
> noro

Well, my take from this whole thread is that it's not possible without some
shell hacking.

I hope this is on the portage-ng roadmap...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
mathieu perrenoud wrote:

On Monday 15 December 2003 04:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
 

I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the installed
packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
Thanks in advance.
   

what about this one?
emerge -evp world | grep '-alsa' | awk '{print $4}'
it doesn't look like a jpeg's bindump.
Is it missing something?
 

Definitelly this is not the script which gives the proper answer
to given question!
This answers which package will, (but not was - it's a BIG difference)
be emerged  without alsa flag ... so if alsa flag is set the output is null,
but there is no reason to say ebuild wasn't emerged without the flag.
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Re: [gentoo-user] empty gnome panel

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Gnome panel problem solved: libfam was screwed up. I guess that's another
package which has been renamed ? Please stop that.choose package names wisely 
please..
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Timo Boettcher wrote:
Just for the record (I saw you got your solution) there is also the
Gentoo-Router-Howto on the wiki of the Gentoo-Server-Project
http://www.subverted.net/wakka/wakka.php?wakka=RouterHowto
The site was down over the last few days, so I couldn't give you the
link earlier.
Yep, I already landed on the site while doing my mega-routing research,
but now i got my solution. Thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo as a router

2003-12-15 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Oliver,


* Oliver Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Friday, December 12, 2003, 10:18:14 PM:

> Hello everyone,

> And again i can't find the solution for a trivial task such as
> setting up my gentoo box as a simple router for my home LAN.

Just for the record (I saw you got your solution) there is also the
Gentoo-Router-Howto on the wiki of the Gentoo-Server-Project
http://www.subverted.net/wakka/wakka.php?wakka=RouterHowto
The site was down over the last few days, so I couldn't give you the
link earlier.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Mp3 effects

2003-12-15 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Ciortea Cristian wrote:
Audacity .. hmm will give that a try.
Dont think it can handle mp3s without decoding them ..
I don't think you can apply most sound effects directly on MP3 audio 
data without decoding it first (software is able to 
decode->edit->re-encode transparently for you). And beware that you will 
also lose audio quality on the way, because of the re-encoding 
(artifacts will build up). Use a lossless format while working with the 
audio, encode to MP3 as the last step.

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Re: [gentoo-user] oops! my date is 14 years ahead!

2003-12-15 Thread Matthieu Amiguet
> U can use "date" + "hwclock -w" commands, but for future it's far
> better to setup NTP daemon (emerge ntp), if u are online
> or use rdate (emerge rdate)  if not.

I'll try rdate as it's a laptop and I'm offline most of the time.

> setup proper date
> 
> touch foo;  find / -newer foo -exec touch -t 20031215 {} \;

Perhaps I'm asking too much but... dates of files should be OK except for the year... 
is there a way to fix the year only, keeping day and month?

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Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?

2003-12-15 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 14 December 2003 10:07 pm, N. Owen Gunden wrote:
> I'd like to start using NPTL for at least wine, with hopes of seeing
> performance enhancement.
>
> As I understand it, here's what I need to do:
>
> - Install kernel 2.6.0-test11
> - Set the nptl USE flag
> - emerge glibc (2.3.2 ok?)
> - emerge wine
>
> I read somewhere that I should use GCC 3.3 (I'm using 3.2.3).  Is there
> any truth to this?  Is there any reason /not/ to upgrade GCC?
>
> Do I need to re-emerge anything else?
>

You should also emerge modutils and perhaps binutils also. Be aware, once you 
enabe nptl in glibc, you'll never be able to run a kernel other than 2.6.0.

That said, I've noticed some real improvements in the way that my nptl test 
box runs. Namely KDE, mysql, etc.

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[gentoo-user] empty gnome panel

2003-12-15 Thread Oliver Lange
Hello everyone,

Today i boot my desktop, and my gnome main panel is empty (except the
application/action buttons, volume control, clock and window list button) !!
I had the whole panel almost full with app-icons !! argh...

How come ? Do I have a chance to restore all the icons or will this cost
me another two days of work ? I can't even remember all of the apps..
I thought such surprises were only possible with Windows..
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Re: [gentoo-user] oops! my date is 14 years ahead!

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Matthieu Amiguet wrote:

1) How do I set the date/time in gentoo? do I have to set the system clock only, and let gentoo sync the hwclock at poweroff, or do I have to run the classical "date xx;hwclock --systohc" sequence?

 

U can use "date" + "hwclock -w" commands, but for future it's far
better to setup NTP daemon (emerge ntp), if u are online
or use rdate (emerge rdate)  if not.

2) How do I safely put my date 14 years back??? can I just set the date, or will it cause problems? should I try some magic "find" invocation to set every file dated 2017 back to 2003? Do I have to delete/modify certain settings/log files?

 

Yes, I would recommend find preocedure for different reasons ...
deleting logfiles is not necessary (afaik)
If u'll meet some problems with commands which use wtmp or so
do not delete it, but concatenate ( >/var/log/wtmp ), since
it's much safier.
Let's do this:

setup proper date

touch foo;  find / -newer foo -exec touch -t 20031215 {} \;

And everything should be OK

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Re: [gentoo-user] sa-learn fails

2003-12-15 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 2003-12-15, Christian Herzyk wrote:
> Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> 
> >after collection spam that get true, i executed sa-learn but it fails
> >with this command:
> >
> >Cannot open bayes databases /home/istari/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie
> >failed:
[...]
> >
> No solution, sorry. But I got this problem, too.
> In my case I think it started after I changed som permissions.
> I got the .spamassassin dir  outside home, so that all users (2 users 
> only) can use sa-learn to train SA which uses a central database for all 
> users.
> I had to change the permissions of the files so that a group of users 
> can write to it. Since I did that I find this error in my procmail logfile.
> 
I did have a similar problem, at first I thought that maybe I got too
few messages to read (2) so I collected a few more and put them in my
~/mail/spam-new (I use mbox) and ran:
$ /usr/bin/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam-new
And it worked...:-)

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
I solved exactly the same situation using

qmail + courier imap + sqwebmail + ...

so from any PC I can reach my mails minimally via the web browser
if I like to use Mozilla, Kmail ... I have to configure it first time.
noro

Zarick Lau wrote:

Hi,

I have used evolution for a long time, but actually I want to seek some
changes as it was so trouble to getting my mail on one desktop system
only.
Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive and
store my email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup different
desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
box...
I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get my
mail from isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 server
right.
And my question is, which pop3 server is better?

Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?
Would you mind give me some sugguestion??

Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Christophe Boutter
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hi,

Zarick Lau wrote:

| Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive | and store my 
email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup | different
| desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
| lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
| box...

That's a pretty good idea.

| I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get | my mail from 
isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 | server right.

with fetchmail you're right, you can get your e-mail with it. but if you want a synced 
mailbox from a server an some clients i would use imap rather than pop3.

| And my question is, which pop3 server is better?

i'm using courier-imap.

| Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
| used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?

mbox is the classic way, maildir is newer and works perfectly well for me.

here a link from the forums:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=56633

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Re: [gentoo-user] sa-learn fails

2003-12-15 Thread Christian Herzyk
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:

Hi,

after collection spam that get true, i executed sa-learn but it fails
with this command:
Cannot open bayes databases /home/istari/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie
failed:
Cannot open bayes databases /home/istari/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie
failed: File exists
Has anyone idee to solve this ?

TIA
Patrick
 

No solution, sorry. But I got this problem, too.
In my case I think it started after I changed som permissions.
I got the .spamassassin dir  outside home, so that all users (2 users 
only) can use sa-learn to train SA which uses a central database for all 
users.
I had to change the permissions of the files so that a group of users 
can write to it. Since I did that I find this error in my procmail logfile.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Postfix configuration (Solved)

2003-12-15 Thread Patrick Börjesson
> So... Say I have a unresolvable hostname (e.g. host.mydomain.com)
> because of being inside an unaccessible intranet. The intranet has a
> smtp-server which relays mail for us inside the intranet. The problem
> is now that I want all the mail that is send from my machine which
> don't have a domain in the to-address to be rewritten so that it uses
> $myhostname instead of $myorigin. 
> 
> I can't set $myorigin to $myhostname as the smtp-servers outside the
> intranet will try to resolve the envelope-address (which would be
> host.mydomain.com) and fail, which mean that they'll reject the mail.
> And if I set $myorigin to $mydomain and change nothing else postfix
> will rewrite all the to-addresses that has no domain (e.g. "root") to
> @$mydomain which will send the mails going from my daemons
> to the useraccount on our gateway (not something you want to do if you
> don't want to piss the admin off). So the best solution that I can
> think of is to make trivial-rewrite append $myhostname to the
> unqualified to-addresses instead of $myorigin, but I can't seem to
> find if and how this can be done... 
> Another choice I have is to make a virtual map with all the local
> addresses that should go to local addresses on my machine, but this
> seems risky as if I forget an address then those mails will go to the
> gateway... 

Address masquerading did what I needed. For those interested:
http://www.postfix.org/rewrite.html#masquerade

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB

2003-12-15 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 2003-12-14, John Gilger wrote:
> 
> The help everyone offered is appreciated. At least now GRUB bounces back to
> the menu screen instead of crashing. It still will not boot WinXP. Could it
> be that GRUB doesn't work with NTFS partitions? Does LILO?
> 
Both of them do work well with NTFS.
This is what I got on one box with grub:

title Windows 2000
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader  +1

One with lilo:

other=/dev/hda1
label=WinNT
table=/dev/hda

Another lilo:
other=/dev/hda1
label="WinNT(hda1)"

All of them work.

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[gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software

2003-12-15 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi,

I have used evolution for a long time, but actually I want to seek some
changes as it was so trouble to getting my mail on one desktop system
only.

Well, what I'm going to achieve is, using my home server, to receive and
store my email from my ISP account, and I can easily setup different
desktop system to fetch my mail from the server with out the chance to
lost my email and trouble in sync. different mail box in different
box...

I have read some howtos only, and I think I can use fetchmail to get my
mail from isp, stored it on my server. Then I can setup a POP3 server
right.

And my question is, which pop3 server is better?

Also, it seems that there are a few different mail box format is being
used (mbox, maildir, etc), right? What should I choice to use?

Would you mind give me some sugguestion??

Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)

2003-12-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Monday 15 December 2003 10:16 schrieb ext john gennard:
> For the final run through with genkernel, there was no
> choice, but that's no problem - I'll put lilo on a floppy
> right away. Wrong! I'm told 'no such device' whilst
> /dev/fd0 exists and this error continues to be so no matter
> what I put into /etc/fstab. Nowhere in the literature, or
> the massive forum archives can I find an help.
Exists where? In fstab or is there /dev/fd0 and what does it look like? Do 
you have /dev/floppy/0? If not, try modprobe floppy.

> Whilst looking in /dev, I also noticed there were no
> /cdroms to be seen, but the /etc/fstab has '/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 etc'.
> That's really confused me, and I feel very stupid as by now
> this is the type of problem I ought to be able to solve.
Load the kernel module for cdrom support (modprobe ide-cd or modprobe 
sr-mod).

HTH...

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[gentoo-user] oops! my date is 14 years ahead!

2003-12-15 Thread Matthieu Amiguet
I had some clock troubles a few weeks ago when I passed from local to UTC time 
(somehow my /etc/adjtime was corrupted). I thought I fixed it and used my box happily 
for a few weeks before realizing that I mixed things up somewhere along the path: date 
and time are OK, but my box thinks it is running in year... 2017!!!
So I have two questions:

1) How do I set the date/time in gentoo? do I have to set the system clock only, and 
let gentoo sync the hwclock at poweroff, or do I have to run the classical "date 
xx;hwclock --systohc" sequence?

2) How do I safely put my date 14 years back??? can I just set the date, or will it 
cause problems? should I try some magic "find" invocation to set every file dated 2017 
back to 2003? Do I have to delete/modify certain settings/log files?

Thank you for any help. I'm very happy with my gentoo installation now and it would 
really bother me to mess things up for such a silly mistake...

Matthieu

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[gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)

2003-12-15 Thread john gennard
Following advice given to me on the 9th, I've been using 
the Handbook and trying out different approaches.

Yesterday, I went right through (using gentoo-sources and
genkernel to see how that went). All seemed fine, and I'm
sure I have a good basic install to start me off.

Unfortunately, I can't boot the install at all. My preferred
way is to build a bzDisk, and later put lilo on a floppy.
Earlier, when I compiled my own kernel (also from gentoo-sources)
and tried to run 'make bzDisk', I got an error 'no target'.
I thought this strange but continued to 'make bzImage'.

For the final run through with genkernel, there was no
choice, but that's no problem - I'll put lilo on a floppy
right away. Wrong! I'm told 'no such device' whilst
/dev/fd0 exists and this error continues to be so no matter
what I put into /etc/fstab. Nowhere in the literature, or
the massive forum archives can I find an help.

Whilst looking in /dev, I also noticed there were no
/cdroms to be seen, but the /etc/fstab has '/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 etc'.
That's really confused me, and I feel very stupid as by now
this is the type of problem I ought to be able to solve.

Can anyone assist me again please.

As I have two Debian installations on a large disk, I have
had to use hda7 (32M) as /boot and hda8 (6Gig) as /, I don't
know if this is of interest.

Regards,John.
   

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[gentoo-user] how to play cube

2003-12-15 Thread Stephen Turner
hey ive covered a website and played with some of the stuff in
/usr/games/bin but alas cant seem to get cube to exicute. according to
what i read i should be able to play a game. any help getting it to work
would be grateful, i think im just trying to start it wrong maybe?

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Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?

2003-12-15 Thread N. Owen Gunden
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:30:18AM +, Tom Wesley wrote:
> *  sys-libs/glibc
>   Latest version available: 2.3.3_pre20031212
>   Latest version installed: 2.3.2-r9
> 
> *  sys-devel/gcc
>   Latest version available: 3.3.2-r4
>   Latest version installed: 3.3.2-r3
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources
>   Latest version available: 2.6.0_beta11-r2
>   Latest version installed: 2.6.0_beta11-r2

Thanks -- I don't use ~x86 by default so I'm using glibc-2.3.2-r2 and an
older gcc.  I'm going to start the merge of your exact versions here and
then get some sleep, we'll see how it works in the morning.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?

2003-12-15 Thread Tom Wesley
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 08:11, N. Owen Gunden wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:52:56AM +, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > This method worked for me perfectly over the weekend, although I
> > re-emerged everything as I changed my cflags too...
> 
> Are you using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"?  Can you tell me your exact
> versions of glibc, gcc, and kernel?
> 
> Thanks,
> Owen

Sure, I'm using ~x86, some of these packages are not quite up to date,
they appeared in portage half way through my rebuild.  Will do them
during today though... ;)

*  sys-libs/glibc
  Latest version available: 2.3.3_pre20031212
  Latest version installed: 2.3.2-r9

*  sys-devel/gcc
  Latest version available: 3.3.2-r4
  Latest version installed: 3.3.2-r3

*  sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources
  Latest version available: 2.6.0_beta11-r2
  Latest version installed: 2.6.0_beta11-r2

After prelinking the system too it does seem a little more responsive,
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Re: [gentoo-user] scripts/bootstrap.sh failed

2003-12-15 Thread Spider
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:06:00 +0200
Adrian Pirciu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> it's a BAD rule. It maybe was true when we had 16 Mb of ram, but if 
> you have 512 m, a 256 M of swap would be more than you need. In fact, 
> if you don't compile stuff, it's better to disable any swap 
> files/partitions. It's faster.
> 
> On Sunday 14 December 2003 21:59, Ron wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 14:40, Simon Striker wrote:
> > > Hello Dennis,
> > >
> > > Sunday, December 14, 2003, 8:36:47 PM, you wrote:
> > > > Try adding (more) swap-space.
> > >
> > > I have reserved about 50M for Swap ... Is this too little?
> >
> > A general rule of thumb would be a swap partition 2x larger than
> > your ram.  If you you have 512M ram then 1024M swap


Topposting damages your health.

No, its not a bad rule, its a Rule of Thumb that came from the kernel
and how it behave(d/s) during the 2.4 series. It was an aggressive RAM
consumptioner who would happily swap out just about all "somewhat idle"
things in order to cache files in RAM, and thereby make actual -work-
faster.   

It would also gladly kill off some pretty large tasks just bcause they
were in the way of more memory consumption.


.23 changed this, for the better.


However,  My advice is :  make sure you have >512 Mb of RAM total.
preferrably >1Gb.

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Re: [gentoo-user] interface alias configuration

2003-12-15 Thread Leonid Podolny
Ok, thanks, I'll try it.

mathieu perrenoud wrote:

uncoment the line 
alias_eth0="..."
and edit it according to your needs.

 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Dead mp3

2003-12-15 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 2003-12-13, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
> Hi!
> When I wanted to play some mp3 files with mpg123 there was no sound at
> all, tried xmms and still no sound..:-(
> Ogg works fine though. This happened after alsa-driver re-install (after
> kernel upgrade).
> Can someone tell me why this is and how to fix it?
> 
FYI: I rebooted the box from the r9 kernel back to r8 and sound works
again as it should. Since many seem to have had issues with r9 I might
as well take the step towards 2.6 instead...B)

Cheers,
/HÖ

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Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?

2003-12-15 Thread N. Owen Gunden
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:52:56AM +, Tom Wesley wrote:
> This method worked for me perfectly over the weekend, although I
> re-emerged everything as I changed my cflags too...

Are you using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"?  Can you tell me your exact
versions of glibc, gcc, and kernel?

Thanks,
Owen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with "-alsa"?

2003-12-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 December 2003 16:40, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> On Monday 15 December 2003 04:10, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > I'm switching over from OSS to ALSA, so I need to find all the installed
> > packages that were merged with "-alsa". Is this possible?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> what about this one?
> emerge -evp world | grep '-alsa' | awk '{print $4}'
>
> it doesn't look like a jpeg's bindump.
> Is it missing something?

Packages that aren't listed in or aren't a dependency of a package in world. 
Other than that, it is the simplest solution.

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