[gentoo-user] How many days have elapsed?

[Stroller]

Hihi,
I needed just now to count today how many days have elapsed since the 
3rd of January. Rather than reach for a calendar and count days 
arduously, I figured this was a task very suited to a computer. I'm 
sure, however, my solution took me longer than the manual one would 
have - can anyone suggest a better one?

I know that `date` can provide the date in seconds since the epoc, and 
after a couple of readings of the `man` page I discovered that `info 
date` is FAR more comprehendible.

$ date  +%s
1107845877
$ date  +%s -d '3 Jan'
1104710400
Ok... so a Google for Bash mathematics turns up 
, and after some 
experimentation I came up with:

$ echo $(( $((`date  +%s` - `date --date='3 Jan' +%s`)) / 60 / 60 / 24 
))

That's a pretty unmemorable command, however, and next time I want to 
work out how many days have elapsed since $ARBITRARY_DATE I'll have to 
look up how to do it again. Can anyone suggest a more concise command 
line, please?

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious like the bash-builtin command 
`dayssince` or `emerge cal-tools` - what I really want to do is type 
`how many days since 3rd January` and get the answer. Gold stars will 
not be awarded for telling me to make my own alias in .bash_profile.

Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB problems on Dell Inspiron 3000 (2.6 kernel)

[michael]

Worth a try - thanks for the tip!
Michael
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Kumar Golap wrote:
I don't know if its similar problem to yours...my USB stick/ camera
use to work in kernel 2.6.5 but stopped working (or working
erratically) with 2.6.6 till 2.6.9...
Recently i updated to 2.6.10-r4 and it works, fine now.
Kumar


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To answer my own question (sort of) I added coldplug and yet no
difference.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB problems on Dell Inspiron 3000 (2.6 kernel)

[Kumar Golap]

I don't know if its similar problem to yours...my USB stick/ camera
use to work in kernel 2.6.5 but stopped working (or working
erratically) with 2.6.6 till 2.6.9...
Recently i updated to 2.6.10-r4 and it works, fine now.

Kumar





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> 
> To answer my own question (sort of) I added coldplug and yet no
> difference.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[PK]

Nick Rout wrote:
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:48:32 -0600
Kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

PK wrote:
any idea what I am supposed to do to get it working properly?
IIRC there are two main gotchas
1. kernel stuff. Assuming you're using 2.4 you need to have Packet 
Socket and Socket Filtering compiled in under Networking. If you don't 
have these I think the dhcp daemon will bitch about it and probably bomb 
out.

the bomb out specifically refers to the leases file. also i notice that fairly 
extensive bomb out error messages are sent to syslog. if touching the leases 
file doesn't work i suggest the OP looks in his logs...

2. missing files for leases. As Nick just posted you'll need to find 
them and create them and then give them the proper ownership and 
permissions.

for what its worth mine is 644 dhcp:dhcp. I don't guarantee thats right, i 
guess thats what dhcpd set it to?

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I am using a 2.6 kernel .
the dhcp.leases file exists and the permissions are set right.
thanks for you help. sorry to trouble you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Yes, it was.
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
Thanks.
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Frédéric Grosshans wrote:
Le dimanche 06 février 2005 à 12:17 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb a écrit :
Tried them and they work - but I wonder what's wrong with my system in
that it won't mount a dos floppy.  Ext2 floppy works fine.
Is your kernel compiled with the following option ?
File systems
-> Partition Types
-> Advanced partition selection
[*]   PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Bingo -.  Now to find out what I did differently on each system.
Thank you.
messages:Feb  6 11:56:55 gandalf FAT: codepage cp437 not found
messages:Feb  6 11:57:26 gandalf FAT: codepage cp437 not found
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Mariusz [iso-8859-2] Pêkala wrote:
don't you have to give a default codepage as a mount option for (v)fat,
since recently?
I'm not sure about the codepage.  There is a default set in the kernel
build.
I believe if that would be the case you might find some error messages
in syslog  about 'module cp- not found' or sth like that.
The default set of codepages in kernel config is pretty small. You may
try to enable more or all of them, rebuild kernel and then try to mount
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[gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

[Ian K]

Hi.
My laptop has a Yamaha OPL3-SA2 soundcard, but the appropriate drivers 
will not recognize it.
It says the device is not found or busy. I AM SURE my soundcard is this, 
I checked my computer's specifications.
I enabled the appropriate kernel options in the 2.6.10 kernel, and 
compiled and such.
I then modprobed a few of the available ones. I did a DMESG and got the 
above error twice.
Just so you know, the soundcard is an ISA device.
Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC path...

[Mike Flippin]

Jerry McBride wrote:
Are there specific steps that have to be followed when upgrading from 
gcc-3.3.x to say gcc 3.4.3?

I've been doing little tests with 3.4.3 ever since it appeared in portage and 
I think I'm ready to try to compile an entire system with it So... is it 
as easy as emerge -e world? 

My reason for asking is, it appears that modules and apps compiled with 3.4.3 
will sometimes not work with modules and apps compiled under 3.3.5...

Any suggestions, before I dive into this, would be appreciated.
Thanks.
 

I recently did that with Vida Linux which is Gentoo-based and had no 
problem. I am back to Gentoo now because of a really funky problem with 
how their modifications setup X.Org. It should work just fine, though.

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[gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC path...

[Jerry McBride]

Are there specific steps that have to be followed when upgrading from 
gcc-3.3.x to say gcc 3.4.3?

I've been doing little tests with 3.4.3 ever since it appeared in portage and 
I think I'm ready to try to compile an entire system with it So... is it 
as easy as emerge -e world? 

My reason for asking is, it appears that modules and apps compiled with 3.4.3 
will sometimes not work with modules and apps compiled under 3.3.5...

Any suggestions, before I dive into this, would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[Piotr]

Dnia wtorek 08 lutego 2005 03:38, Rick van Hattem napisał:
>  On Tuesday 08 February 2005 03:52, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
>  > I'd like to upgrade my system with a more powerful graphics card.
>  > Presently, I have a VT8375 Video Card built into the motherboard.  As
>  > far as I can tell, this does not allow any accelerated graphics
>  > processing capability, so I'm left with basic software graphics support
>  > for games like Quake2, and others simply do not run at regular speed (if
>  > at all).
>  >
>  > Looking on Pricewatch.com, there are a number of video cards available.
>  > What is the best value (and the easist to install) for a linux system?
>  > I'd like high speed graphics for games, and may also want to have video
>  > capture capability in future so that I can convert my PAL video
>  > collection over to DVD.
>  >
>  > A friend of mine recommended nvidia, as they have a few pieces of
>  > support software for linux to handle setup etc.
>  >
>  > What video cards would you recommend?
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  >
>  > Jeff
>  >
>  >
>  >
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>  If it comes to video acceleration in games under linux then I don't think
> you have another option besides nvidia,
>
>  ATi is improving there drivers bit by bit but the drivers are still crap,
> they work but don't get half the performance you should have.

I think geForce II MX 400 ( or 200 ) 64MB whould be good choice. You can buy 
it for like 20$ (?), it is enough powerfull to run Enemy Territory ( 43 fps 
actually :) ) Quake 2/3 ( 76 fps ) . 

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[gentoo-user] What does invalid preprocessing directive #warn mean?

[Mike Flippin]

When I try to compile anything that uses opengl on my system I get the 
error "invalid preprocessing directive #warn" how do I get around this? 
Do I need to upgrade from GCC 3.3 to 3.4?

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[gentoo-user] Invalid preprocessing directive #warn

[Mike Flippin]

When I try to compile anything that uses opengl on my system I get the 
error "invalid preprocessing directive #warn" how do I get around this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[Rick van Hattem]

On Tuesday 08 February 2005 03:52, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> I'd like to upgrade my system with a more powerful graphics card.
> Presently, I have a VT8375 Video Card built into the motherboard.  As
> far as I can tell, this does not allow any accelerated graphics
> processing capability, so I'm left with basic software graphics support
> for games like Quake2, and others simply do not run at regular speed (if
> at all).
>
> Looking on Pricewatch.com, there are a number of video cards available.
> What is the best value (and the easist to install) for a linux system?
> I'd like high speed graphics for games, and may also want to have video
> capture capability in future so that I can convert my PAL video
> collection over to DVD.
>
> A friend of mine recommended nvidia, as they have a few pieces of
> support software for linux to handle setup etc.
>
> What video cards would you recommend?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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If it comes to video acceleration in games under linux then I don't think you 
have another option besides nvidia, 

ATi is improving there drivers bit by bit but the drivers are still crap, they 
work but don't get half the performance you should have.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Static USE-Flags

[Tres Melton]

Captain Fantastik,
Static linking will consume vast amounts of memory and is generally a
bad idea.  It is used primarily to distribute pre-compiled binaries to
ensure that the target system has all of the needed libraries.  This was
common with programs that used the Motif libraries on proprietary Unices
ages ago.

Cheers,
The Brown Dirt Cowboys

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 20:41 -0500, Captain FantastiK wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I don't have a Good experience about USE-Flags but I wanted to know if its a 
> good idea to compile my packages with static support. Does it optimize ?
> 
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[gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[Jeff Cranmer]

I'd like to upgrade my system with a more powerful graphics card.
Presently, I have a VT8375 Video Card built into the motherboard.  As
far as I can tell, this does not allow any accelerated graphics
processing capability, so I'm left with basic software graphics support
for games like Quake2, and others simply do not run at regular speed (if
at all).

Looking on Pricewatch.com, there are a number of video cards available.
What is the best value (and the easist to install) for a linux system?
I'd like high speed graphics for games, and may also want to have video
capture capability in future so that I can convert my PAL video
collection over to DVD.

A friend of mine recommended nvidia, as they have a few pieces of
support software for linux to handle setup etc.

What video cards would you recommend?

Thanks

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[gentoo-user] hardened-dev-sources does not support SATA drives

[Devraj Mukherjee]

Everyone,

Along with your help I have been fighting with a software RAID1 issue on
my Dell PowerEdge server. All along I believe I have been doing everything
right except that the kernel did not support SATA.

I have been working with hardened-dev-source which yields into a
2.6.7-hardened-r9 kernel. I did check all options to do with SATA and
nothing stillw orked. I have also tried a normal (without RAID) install of
Gentoo with the same kernel and failed to boot from my SATA drive.

Can someone confirm if I have to use 2.6.9 kernels to get SATA support?

Is gentoo-sources good enough for servers?

If not can the patches from hardened-dev-sources (for 2.6.7) be applied to
the 2.6.9 sources?

Thanks for your input and time.

Kind regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] bittorent and distfiles

[John Myers]

On Monday 07 February 2005 17:32, Charles Pittman wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:39:54 +0800, William Kenworthy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a guide to setting up portage to use bittorent to fetch
> > distfiles?  Is it worth it for an adsl (512k up/down) connection?
> > 
> > BillK
> > 
> I was thinking about this just this weekend... Although I don't think
> that there would be much purpose to it unless you were downloading a
> _large_ file. There aren't many programs that this is
> necessary/capable of (OpenOffice.org comes to mind), so it's better to
> separately download the file. Besides, when you download with
> bittorrent, you're supposed to leave the torrents open for other
> people.
> 
> Be kind. Rewind.
> 

What an interesting idea...  Maybe this would be more feasible than my
earlier proposal for a progress-reporting system...

*develops ideas*

Maybe I'll write something down and try it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Static USE-Flags

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 07 February 2005 07:41 pm, "Captain FantastiK" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I don't have a Good experience about USE-Flags but I wanted to know if
> its a good idea to compile my packages with static support. Does it
> optimize ?

This just makes your programs statically linked.  This means the won't use 
shared libraries; if you have the binary and are on the right system, they 
will run.  [Can be good for stuff you want to put in an initrd, or some 
embedded system.]

However, at the system level this will cause a lot of duplication both on 
disk and in-memory, increasing the size and memory requirements of a full 
system.

[The linker can perform some optimizations when staticly linking that it 
cannot when doing dynamic linking, but they are largely inconsequential 
and somewhat offset by prelinking.]

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[gentoo-user] Static USE-Flags

[Captain FantastiK]

Hi
I don't have a Good experience about USE-Flags but I wanted to know if its a 
good idea to compile my packages with static support. Does it optimize ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Glibc Recompile after Linux-headers change

[Holly Bostick]

Kathryn wrote:
I've always been instructed to rebuild glibc after changing the headers.
Of course, nobody that has told me this has ever really given me a good
reason to either.  So I am too wondering if it's really a necessity
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 19:21 -0500, Captain FantastiK wrote:
Hi
I would like to be informed if I MUST recompile Glibc after changing 
linux-headers ( Actually I have the 2.4) and wanted to switch to 2.6.8)


As far as I know, the only reason to change your headers at all is in 
order to enable nptl, which can only be used with the 2.6 headers (the 
2.4 headers work fine with any kernel under all other circumstances).

If you intend to enable nptl, you have to recompile glibc with one or 
both of the nptl USE flags in order to do so.

So yes, you do have to recompile glibc under those circumstances, and 
those circumstances are pretty much the only reason for going through 
all this anyway, so... yes.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] bittorent and distfiles

[Charles Pittman]

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:39:54 +0800, William Kenworthy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a guide to setting up portage to use bittorent to fetch
> distfiles?  Is it worth it for an adsl (512k up/down) connection?
> 
> BillK
> 
I was thinking about this just this weekend... Although I don't think
that there would be much purpose to it unless you were downloading a
_large_ file. There aren't many programs that this is
necessary/capable of (OpenOffice.org comes to mind), so it's better to
separately download the file. Besides, when you download with
bittorrent, you're supposed to leave the torrents open for other
people.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Glibc Recompile after Linux-headers change

[Kathryn]

I've always been instructed to rebuild glibc after changing the headers.
Of course, nobody that has told me this has ever really given me a good
reason to either.  So I am too wondering if it's really a necessity
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 19:21 -0500, Captain FantastiK wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I would like to be informed if I MUST recompile Glibc after changing 
> linux-headers ( Actually I have the 2.4) and wanted to switch to 2.6.8)
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB 2.0 extermal hard drive question

[Sarpy Sam]

I just bought a Maxtor external hard drive the other day, hooked it up
and it works fine.  It's a simple drive and not one of the one touch
backup models.  I am using 2.6. kernel so I can't speak for 2.4
kernel.   As soon as I plugged it in it was recognized as sda and I
was able to mount it and use it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB 2.0 extermal hard drive question

[Rick van Hattem]

On Tuesday 08 February 2005 01:10, Derrick Hendricks wrote:
> A friend of mine and I have been using Linux for a long time.  But,
> before my friend or I go out and buy a USB external hard drive, I
> thought I'd just make sure that it is compatible.  So, Here's the
> question.  Does anyone know if the Maxtor OneTouch USB 2.0 drive is
> compatible or for that matter, Western Digital’s external USB 2.0
> drive?  My friend and I are looking to use it as a backup media, but
> don't want to buy it until we are resonably sure it will work.  The
> one-touch backup feature isn't necessary in my book since I can write a
> script to copy over the files that I want. Another friend of mine had a
> Seagate variety, and it registered as a USB mass storage device that he
> could mount and copy things to.  Can these other drives work the same
> way?
>
> I use a 2.4 kernel and he uses a 2.6.  Both have hotplug installed and
> running.  Will the hotplug recognize the USB drive and install the
> correct drivers?  If these drives are not usable, can someone recommend
> one that is?
>
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I'm not sure about the maxtor or WD drive but I have bought a case for an 
external drive and it works without a problem, as soon as I connect it I see 
a new drive in /dev (I'm using devfs)
After connecting I just do mount /dev/sdd1 ... and I'm done.

I assume both drives will work perfectly since they both have to support the 
usb disk standard (the same one used by every usb drive)

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB 2.0 extermal hard drive question

[Nick Smith]

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 19:10 -0500, Derrick Hendricks wrote:
> A friend of mine and I have been using Linux for a long time.  But,
> before my friend or I go out and buy a USB external hard drive, I
> thought I'd just make sure that it is compatible.  So, Here's the
> question.  Does anyone know if the Maxtor OneTouch USB 2.0 drive is
> compatible or for that matter, Western Digital’s external USB 2.0
> drive?  My friend and I are looking to use it as a backup media, but
> don't want to buy it until we are resonably sure it will work.  The
> one-touch backup feature isn't necessary in my book since I can write a
> script to copy over the files that I want. Another friend of mine had a
> Seagate variety, and it registered as a USB mass storage device that he
> could mount and copy things to.  Can these other drives work the same
> way?
> 
> I use a 2.4 kernel and he uses a 2.6.  Both have hotplug installed and
> running.  Will the hotplug recognize the USB drive and install the
> correct drivers?  If these drives are not usable, can someone recommend
> one that is?
> 
> 
im running a net disk by ximeta that has a western digital drive in it
(160gig) and have been using it with no problems, just install hot or
coldplug and the syslog will tell you what device it is aka sda sdb etc,
mount and your on your way.


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[gentoo-user] Glibc Recompile after Linux-headers change

[Captain FantastiK]

Hi
I would like to be informed if I MUST recompile Glibc after changing 
linux-headers ( Actually I have the 2.4) and wanted to switch to 2.6.8)

Thanks
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[gentoo-user] Unresolved Symbols on Nvidia Driver

[Captain FantastiK]

Hi
I have nvidia kernel & glx 1.0.6111-r1 and Nvidia GeForce 2 MMX 400. When I 
switch to this driver and exec startx I received the message: Unreseolved 
symbols: Here's the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

***
X Window System Version 6.8.0
Release Date: 8 September 2004
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux chiheb-r77rxuz6 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 #1 Thu Feb 
3 09:40:12 EST 2005 i686
Build Date: 07 February 2005
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Feb  7 18:59:48 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "My Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "** NVIDIA (generic)   [nv]"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/share/fonts/local/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/modules"
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
	X.Org Video Driver: 0.7
	X.Org XInput driver : 0.4
	X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
	X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 6.8.0, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
	ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 6.8.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
Using vt 7
(--) using VT number 7

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1039,0650 card 1039,0650 rev 01 class 06,00,00 hdr 
80
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1039,0001 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 
01
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 1039,0961 card , rev 10 class 06,01,00 hdr 
80
(II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 1039,0016 card , rev 00 class 0c,05,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:02:2: chip 1039,7001 card 1039,7001 rev 07 class 0c,03,10 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:02:3: chip 1039,7001 card 1039,7001 rev 07 class 0c,03,10 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:02:5: chip 1039,5513 card 1039,5513 rev d0 class 01,01,80 hdr 
80
(II) PCI: 00:02:7: chip 1039,7012 card 1458,a002 rev a0 class 04,01,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 11c1,044e card 11c1,044c rev 02 class 07,80,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 10ec,8139 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0110 card , rev b2 class 03,00,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000e (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xec00 - 0xedff (0x200) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0xe000 - 0xe7ff (0x800) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:2:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] rev 178, Mem 
@ 0xec00/24, 0xe000/27
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0xffe0 - 0x (0x20) MX[B](B)
	[1] -1	0	0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B)
	[2] -1	0	0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
	[6] -1	0	0x - 0x00ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe800 from 0xebff to 
0xe7ff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0xee003000 - 0xee0030ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0xee002000 - 0xee0020ff (0x100) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0xee001000 - 0xee001fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0xee00 - 0xee000fff (0x1000) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0xe800 - 0xe7ff (0x0) MX[B]O
	[5] -1	0	0xe000 -

[gentoo-user] USB 2.0 extermal hard drive question

[Derrick Hendricks]

A friend of mine and I have been using Linux for a long time.  But,
before my friend or I go out and buy a USB external hard drive, I
thought I'd just make sure that it is compatible.  So, Here's the
question.  Does anyone know if the Maxtor OneTouch USB 2.0 drive is
compatible or for that matter, Western Digital’s external USB 2.0
drive?  My friend and I are looking to use it as a backup media, but
don't want to buy it until we are resonably sure it will work.  The
one-touch backup feature isn't necessary in my book since I can write a
script to copy over the files that I want. Another friend of mine had a
Seagate variety, and it registered as a USB mass storage device that he
could mount and copy things to.  Can these other drives work the same
way?

I use a 2.4 kernel and he uses a 2.6.  Both have hotplug installed and
running.  Will the hotplug recognize the USB drive and install the
correct drivers?  If these drives are not usable, can someone recommend
one that is?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How do i force squirrel to use ssl?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:47:29 +0100
Martin Kanich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nick Rout wrote:
> > I have squirrelmail set up on my gentoo server. the webserver is apache.
> > 
> > At present the webserver responds to http on port 80 and https on port 443 
> > (as usual). Squirrelmail works under either scheme.
> > 
> > I want to leave apache responding on port 80 for general use, as people 
> > shouldn't have to use https to see my normal web pages, but when someone 
> > opens the squirrelmail page on port 80 via http, I want them to be 
> > redirected to https on port 443, for obvious reasons.
> > 
> > can anyone tell me how i do this (or send me to an appropriate howto?)
> 
> Assuming you have squirrel under /squirrelmail, then append this to your 
> apache config:

Thanks, that seems to work.

> 
> # redirect to https when available (thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
>
>  
>RewriteEngine on
>RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on
>RewriteRule . https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI}  [L]
>  
>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How do i force squirrel to use ssl?

[Nick Smith]

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 23:47 +0100, Martin Kanich wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> > I have squirrelmail set up on my gentoo server. the webserver is apache.
> > 
> > At present the webserver responds to http on port 80 and https on port 443 
> > (as usual). Squirrelmail works under either scheme.
> > 
> > I want to leave apache responding on port 80 for general use, as people 
> > shouldn't have to use https to see my normal web pages, but when someone 
> > opens the squirrelmail page on port 80 via http, I want them to be 
> > redirected to https on port 443, for obvious reasons.
> > 
> > can anyone tell me how i do this (or send me to an appropriate howto?)
> 
> Assuming you have squirrel under /squirrelmail, then append this to your 
> apache config:
> 
> # redirect to https when available (thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
>
>  
>RewriteEngine on
>RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on
>RewriteRule . https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI}  [L]
>  
>
> 
> 
> 
also check out the plugins on the SM page, there is a plugin to always
use ssl


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Re: [gentoo-user] unsuscribe

[Nick Smith]

On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 17:21 -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Dabi wrote:
> 
> > unsuscribe
> >
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> >
> Send an email to the below address from your subscribed address.  Next 
> time it would be wise to visit the subscription site, read the email 
> headers, or otherwise do the leg work. ;-)
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:48:32 -0600
Kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> PK wrote:
> > any idea what I am supposed to do to get it working properly?
> 
> IIRC there are two main gotchas
> 
> 1. kernel stuff. Assuming you're using 2.4 you need to have Packet 
> Socket and Socket Filtering compiled in under Networking. If you don't 
> have these I think the dhcp daemon will bitch about it and probably bomb 
> out.

the bomb out specifically refers to the leases file. also i notice that fairly 
extensive bomb out error messages are sent to syslog. if touching the leases 
file doesn't work i suggest the OP looks in his logs...

> 
> 2. missing files for leases. As Nick just posted you'll need to find 
> them and create them and then give them the proper ownership and 
> permissions.

for what its worth mine is 644 dhcp:dhcp. I don't guarantee thats right, i 
guess thats what dhcpd set it to?


> 
> kashani
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] unsuscribe

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Dabi wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB problems on Dell Inspiron 3000 (2.6 kernel)

[michael]

To answer my own question (sort of) I added coldplug and yet no
difference.
Another thing: My BIOS Setup has no entry for USB.  All other 
computers I've used have a USB section if they have a USB port. 
Is this suprising?

Michael
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bob,
Hotplug yes; coldplug no. Is it needed as well?
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Bob Sanders wrote:
I'm running Gentoo 2.6.9-gentoo-r8 on my old Dell Inspiron 3000. It's
mostly ok (except for sound but that's a lower priority issue) but for
USB. I'm able to see the USB controller:
Do you have coldplug and hotplug emerged?  And have they been added
appropriately -
rc-update add coldplug boot
rc-update add hotplug default
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Re: [gentoo-user] openldap

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Paul Worrall wrote:

3.  install phpldapadmin on the machine running the ldap server, this gives 
you a gui interface accessible from any machine via a web browser. (I've not 
used it much though so can't say how useful it is)

 

Is gentoo at 2.2.x now as its stable version, or is it still sitting in 
the dark ages of 2.1.x?

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[gentoo-user] Re: How do i force squirrel to use ssl?

[Martin Kanich]

Nick Rout wrote:
I have squirrelmail set up on my gentoo server. the webserver is apache.
At present the webserver responds to http on port 80 and https on port 443 (as 
usual). Squirrelmail works under either scheme.
I want to leave apache responding on port 80 for general use, as people 
shouldn't have to use https to see my normal web pages, but when someone opens 
the squirrelmail page on port 80 via http, I want them to be redirected to 
https on port 443, for obvious reasons.
can anyone tell me how i do this (or send me to an appropriate howto?)
Assuming you have squirrel under /squirrelmail, then append this to your 
apache config:

# redirect to https when available (thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED])

  

  RewriteEngine on
  RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on
  RewriteRule . https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI}  [L]

  

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Re: [gentoo-user] changing CPU and/or motherboard for a gentoo system

[bergeron]

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 07:50:34PM +0100, Michele Alzetta wrote:
> A few days ago I started having problems with my BIOS and I thought it
> was my motherboard (a while ago the inbuilt ethernet broke and I had
> to pass to another card - luckily I already had a second one installed
> - so something definitely HAS happened to the mobo).
> 
> The BIOS problems seem to have disappeared by simply changing the
> battery (lucky me !).
> 
> However this started a train of thought. 
> I have a gentoo system with CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp  etc. etc. ".
> 
> If I ever wanted to change CPU, would a 64 bit amd cpu work on this
> system, or would I have to mount the system from a live CD and rebuild
> it from scratch, or else rebuild it from scratch with -mcpu before
> changing cpu ?
> 
> If the motherboard broke and I wanted to change __that__ ... I imagine
> my kernel might not work, so mounting the system and building a new
> kernel would be a must ...
> 
> Has anyone had experience with this sort of problem ? What would be
> the safest and smoothest way to face this ?

I actually was faced with this situation a couple of months ago.  My 
ultra-reliable K6-2/400 server finally started acting weird.  A couple 
of weeks before, I'd upgraded my desktop, so I had a free AthlonXP 
board, cpu, and ram.

I just backed everything up, rebuilt the kernel to make sure that I had 
support for the new chipset.  Mind you, everything is build -march=k6.

Yanked the old board, put the new one in place, held my breath, and it 
booted fine.

Going AMD -> newer AMD or Intel -> newer Intel shouldn't be much of an 
issue.  It's when you have to fall back where you get problems.  Again, 
if you have a need to worry about that, put in your cflags "-march=i468 
-mcpu=$your1337cpu".  That way, it'll boot on anything down to a 486.  I 
don't recommend using -march=i386 anymore because you give up some 
things with glibc when you do that.  And using a 386 for anything but a 
doorstop these days is a waste of time.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Kashani]

PK wrote:
any idea what I am supposed to do to get it working properly?
IIRC there are two main gotchas
1. kernel stuff. Assuming you're using 2.4 you need to have Packet 
Socket and Socket Filtering compiled in under Networking. If you don't 
have these I think the dhcp daemon will bitch about it and probably bomb 
out.

2. missing files for leases. As Nick just posted you'll need to find 
them and create them and then give them the proper ownership and 
permissions.

kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:59:42 +0200
Paul Kain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> when I type /etc/init.d/dhcp start
> 
> I get an error saying
> 
> setting ownership on dchp.leases[!!]
> starting dhcp [ok]
> 

from man dhcpd.leases:

When dhcpd is first installed, there is no lease database.   However, dhcpd 
requires that a lease database
   be  present  before  it  will start.  To make the initial lease 
database, just create an empty file called
   /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases.   You can do this with:

touch /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases

why the hell the ebuild doesn't do this i dunno!


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RE: [gentoo-user] mod_perl 1.27 and apache 1.3

[Covington, Chris]

> Did you run this command as the mod_perl package instructed?
> ebuild /var/db/pkg/dev-perl/mod_perl-1.27-r4/mod_perl-1.27-r4.ebuild

No I didn't see that and thank you!

Chris

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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[PK]

Kashani wrote:
Paul Kain wrote:
its not in portage

ISC DHCP is in portage because that's what actually comprises the dhcp 
package. So you're already got it installed.

*  net-misc/dhcp
  Latest version available: 3.0.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 828 kB
  Homepage:http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
  Description: ISC Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol
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thanks
any idea what I am supposed to do to get it working properly?
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[gentoo-user] How do i force squirrel to use ssl?

[Nick Rout]

I have squirrelmail set up on my gentoo server. the webserver is apache.

At present the webserver responds to http on port 80 and https on port 443 (as 
usual). Squirrelmail works under either scheme.

I want to leave apache responding on port 80 for general use, as people 
shouldn't have to use https to see my normal web pages, but when someone opens 
the squirrelmail page on port 80 via http, I want them to be redirected to 
https on port 443, for obvious reasons.

can anyone tell me how i do this (or send me to an appropriate howto?)
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Kashani]

Paul Kain wrote:
its not in portage
ISC DHCP is in portage because that's what actually comprises the dhcp 
package. So you're already got it installed.

*  net-misc/dhcp
  Latest version available: 3.0.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 828 kB
  Homepage:http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
  Description: ISC Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol
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Re: [gentoo-user] mod_perl 1.27 and apache 1.3

[Kashani]

Covington, Chris wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to install mod_perl 1.27-r4 on the latest 1.3.33 build of
Apache in order to use Request Tracker.  While everything emerges
properly including rt, I don't have anything on my filesystem named
mod_perl.c or mod_perl.so (there's a new libperl.so but that's it) and
there's no change to the apache 1.3.33 configuration files to load a
mod_perl module.  So obviously rt isn't working.
I tried adding a 

LoadModule perl_module /usr/lib/apache-extramodules/libperl.so
and 

LoadModule mod_perl /usr/lib/apache-extramodules/libperl.so
to apache.conf but neither works.  

Apache -v says:
Server version: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)  (Gentoo/Linux)
Server built:   Feb  2 2005 11:43:01
How can I enable mod_perl 1.27-r4?
Did you run this command as the mod_perl package instructed?
ebuild /var/db/pkg/dev-perl/mod_perl-1.27-r4/mod_perl-1.27-r4.ebuild
Then you'll need to add -D PERL to /etc/conf.d/apache and finally stop 
and start Apache.

kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] openldap

[Paul Worrall]

On Monday 07 February 2005 02:01, Nick Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 22:19 +, Paul Worrall wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 February 2005 21:29, Nick Smith wrote:
> > > every how-to i have read about on openldap also wants you to
> > > authenticate against it.  i just want to use it for a global address
> > > list, is this possible? if so, is their a how to on just this one part
> > > of openldap? or come someone just explain to me how to do it? i already
> > > authenticate against a mysql db and dont need openldap for that. is it
> > > possible to just use it for a global address list without having to
> > > also authenticate with it? is there a better solution for what i want
> > > to do? aka a different global address list, that is compatible with
> > > both linux and windows boxes.
> >
> > With the default config on Gentoo, you will need to authenticate to write
> > data, but not to read data. For example to add an entry:
>
> is there a way to change the default config to not authenticate? or have
> it look somewhere else, perhaps my mysql db for the authentication?
>
> > ldapadd -x -H "ldap://localhost"; -D "cn=Manager,dc=example,dc=com" -W
> > Enter LDAP Password:  > /etc/openldap/slapd.conf> dn: cn=Test User,dc=example,dc=com
> > objectclass: person
> > sn: User
> > cn: Test User
> > mail: Test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ^D
> > adding new entry "cn=Test User,dc=example,dc=com"
> > ^D
>
> im very new to openldap so im not quite sure how to set it up, i can
> just emerge it and then start adding people? and also, is there a file i
> can edit and put all of them in there or do i have to run that command
> every time i want to add someone? also what about a gui frontend for
> adding people? is there one? perhaps that i can access remotely as well?
> sorry for all the questions.
>

Well I am far from an expert, but I have set up an LDAP 'Global Address Book' 
such as you describe on my network at home.  In my experience it took a bit 
of work to set up, and I am not 100% pleased with the end result.  For 
example: the KDE address book can only retrieve some of its data from ldap, 
so if (for example) you want to store more that one email address for a 
contact, or their birthday, then you still have to store that in a private 
address book, and then you end up with two address book entries for each 
contact - one from the ldap server, and one from the private data.  In 
Thunderbird's address book, the ldap data is not shown at all until you start 
typing in the search box and, unlike KDE, you cannot update an ldap entry 
from Thunderbird's address book.

To answer some of your questions above:

1. I haven't tried it but if you really want to I think you could give 
unauthenticated read/write access by putting the following line in the config 
file:

access to * by * write

2. To load data from a file, you will need to prepare a file in LDIF format 
(e.g. by exporting from your current address book). The LDIF file must only 
contain attributes supported by the ldap schema you have selected in the 
config file.  The default Gentoo installation selects only core.schema, I 
added inetorgperson.schema and cosine.schema.  The following command will 
load the ldif file into the ldap database:

ldapadd -x -H "ldap://" -D "cn=Manager,dc=example,dc=com" 
-W -f example.ldif

replace the bit after -D with the value of rootdn from the config file, or if 
you have done away with authentication you can probably omit the -x -D and -W 
options.

3.  install phpldapadmin on the machine running the ldap server, this gives 
you a gui interface accessible from any machine via a web browser. (I've not 
used it much though so can't say how useful it is)

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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

[Vittorio]

Alle 18:13, lunedì 7 febbraio 2005, Nick Rout ha scritto:
> On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 19:06 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Already the way you suggested but it doesn't work: I can still connect by
> > userid and password.
> > Any other suggestion?
> > Ciao
> > Vittorio
>
> did you restart sshd after changing the config file?
>

Of course I did.ù!

Ciao
Vittorio

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB problems on Dell Inspiron 3000 (2.6 kernel)

[michael]

Hi Bob,
Hotplug yes; coldplug no. Is it needed as well?
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Bob Sanders wrote:
I'm running Gentoo 2.6.9-gentoo-r8 on my old Dell Inspiron 3000. It's
mostly ok (except for sound but that's a lower priority issue) but for
USB. I'm able to see the USB controller:
Do you have coldplug and hotplug emerged?  And have they been added
appropriately -
  rc-update add coldplug boot
  rc-update add hotplug default
Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Downdating?

[Tony Boom]

Hello Karsten,

Monday, February 7, 2005, 7:06:53 PM, you wrote:

KB> Create /etc/portage/package.mask and add lines like:

Thank you very much. Just got to backup my email base, restore my Acronis
image, make the changes you suggest and I'll try again.

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[gentoo-user] mod_perl 1.27 and apache 1.3

[Covington, Chris]

Hello,

I'm trying to install mod_perl 1.27-r4 on the latest 1.3.33 build of
Apache in order to use Request Tracker.  While everything emerges
properly including rt, I don't have anything on my filesystem named
mod_perl.c or mod_perl.so (there's a new libperl.so but that's it) and
there's no change to the apache 1.3.33 configuration files to load a
mod_perl module.  So obviously rt isn't working.

I tried adding a 

LoadModule perl_module /usr/lib/apache-extramodules/libperl.so

and 

LoadModule mod_perl /usr/lib/apache-extramodules/libperl.so

to apache.conf but neither works.  

Apache -v says:

Server version: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)  (Gentoo/Linux)
Server built:   Feb  2 2005 11:43:01

How can I enable mod_perl 1.27-r4?

Chris

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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Paul Kain]

its not in portage


On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:28:38 -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> 
> >
> > I much prefer isd-dhcp.  Take a look at that if you want.  I find it
> > more robust and quite configurable.
> >
> That is 'isc-dhcp'.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
I much prefer isd-dhcp.  Take a look at that if you want.  I find it 
more robust and quite configurable.

That is 'isc-dhcp'. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Paul Kain wrote:
when I type /etc/init.d/dhcp start
I get an error saying
setting ownership on dchp.leases[!!]
starting dhcp [ok]
 

I much prefer isd-dhcp.  Take a look at that if you want.  I find it 
more robust and quite configurable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] squirrelmail

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

David Corbin wrote:
I have squirrelmail emerged (w/apache 2.0), but it won't work.  There doesn't 
appear to be anything in the apache configuration that allows it run php, 
instead of just returning the source.

Pointers?
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Put -PHP4 in your apache configuration file (/etc/conf.d/apache2).  
Restart apache and you should be set.

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Gentoo Linux and Windows XP on the same hard disk on the same computer"

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:15:05 +
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:44:58 -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
> 
> > YMMV, I tried that, but WinXP still left an unmoveable file in the
> > middle of the disk even after turning off virtual memory. I'm not a
> > windows expert, so I don't have a clue what the file was. So, I was
> > left with the convenience of getting half the space freed quickly and
> > the inconvenience of some unused space in the WinXP partition.
> 
> I dealt with that by booting back into XP and running the defragmenter
> again, which put the swap file back in the middle of the new partition.
> then I could halve its size again. 
> 
> 

This thread adequately shows why i like linux. if this was a linux problem 
someone would be annoyed enough by now to find out why the swap file was in a 
funny place and introduced a patch to change it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB problems on Dell Inspiron 3000 (2.6 kernel)

[Bob Sanders]

> 
> I'm running Gentoo 2.6.9-gentoo-r8 on my old Dell Inspiron 3000. It's
> mostly ok (except for sound but that's a lower priority issue) but for
> USB. I'm able to see the USB controller:
>

Do you have coldplug and hotplug emerged?  And have they been added
appropriately - 

   rc-update add coldplug boot
   rc-update add hotplug default

Bob 
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Re: [gentoo-user] what is i686-pc-linunx-gnu?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 07 February 2005 10:35 am, Vitaly Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is meaning i686-pc-linux-gnu?

That's, roughly, the compile specifications for native binaries on your 
system.  The format is --- (roughly).  An 
Opteron would be x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, PPC machines are ppc64-...-linux-gnu 
or ppc-...-linux-gnu, where the architecture varies on the manufacturer 
(Apple, IBM, or PegasOS(?)).  

Non-linux kernels (like OpenSolaris or *BSD) change the 3rd part.  IF you 
aren't running GNU binutils, the last part will change.  [I don't know if 
there's a choice for linux--but I'm fairly sure the *BSDs have native 
binutils.]

> Can I replase pc with server or home_router?

No; that architecture wouldn't be recognized.

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[gentoo-user] USB problems on Dell Inspiron 3000 (2.6 kernel)

[michael]

Hi,
I'm running Gentoo 2.6.9-gentoo-r8 on my old Dell Inspiron 3000. It's
mostly ok (except for sound but that's a lower priority issue) but for
USB. I'm able to see the USB controller:
 $ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
 T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
 B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
 D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
 P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06
Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.9-gentoo-r8 uhci_hcd
Product=Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
SerialNumber=:00:01.2
 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
 I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
 E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms
but nothing changes when I plug anything into the USB socket.
Here is the output of lsusb:
 # lsusb
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID :
Here are the USB bits in my kernel config:
 # grep USB /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -v "is not set"
 # USB support
 CONFIG_USB=y
 # Miscellaneous USB options
 CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
 # USB Host Controller Drivers
 CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
 CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=m
 CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=m
 # USB Device Class drivers
 CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y
 CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y
 # USB Human Interface Devices (HID)
 CONFIG_USB_HID=m
 CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y
USB HID Boot Protocol drivers
USB Imaging devices
USB Multimedia devices
Video4Linux support is needed for USB Multimedia device support
USB Network adaptors
USB port drivers
USB Serial Converter support
 CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=y
 CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=m
USB Miscellaneous drivers
USB Gadget Support
I've modprobed a couple of drivers, here's lsmod:
 # lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by
 usbhid 21512  -
 ftdi_sio   27020  -
 uhci_hcd   27384  -
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Paul Kain]

when I type /etc/init.d/dhcp start

I get an error saying

setting ownership on dchp.leases[!!]
starting dhcp [ok]


On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:19:03 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Kain ha scritto:
> 
> >Hi All
> >
> >I am setting up aserver according to this guide
> >
> >http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server#Configuring_dhcp
> >
> >Unfortunately it gets to a part where it says rc-update add dhcpd default
> >
> >and I get an error saying /etc/init.d/dhcpd not found
> >
> >
> should be
> # net-misc/dhcp
> # rc-update add dhcp default
> # /etc/init.d/dhcp start
> # rc-status
> 
> see also
> /etc/dhcp/*
> /etc/conf.d/dhcp
> 
> >can anyone point me in the right direction please?
> >
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[gentoo-user] Re: /usr/bin/mysql_config

[Francesco Talamona]

On Monday 07 February 2005 20:27, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
> Please can someone that has dev-db/mysql-4.0* installed remember me
> if /usr/bin/mysql_config exist ?
> If the answer is yes do you remember when it was added ?
>
> tia
> Francesco Riosa


on 21 January!
[20:42] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ll /usr/bin/mysql_config
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 4321 Jan 21 08:28 /usr/bin/mysql_config
[20:42] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ genlop mysql
 * dev-db/mysql
 Fri Jan 21 08:28:55 2005 >>> dev-db/mysql-4.0.22-r2


Seriously, take a look at 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/news-4-0-x.html
(also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/news-4-1-x.html exists, so for 
the like, I guess)

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] /usr/bin/mysql_config

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Please can someone that has dev-db/mysql-4.0* installed remember me if
/usr/bin/mysql_config exist ?
If the answer is yes do you remember when it was added ?
tia
Francesco Riosa

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Re: [gentoo-user] changing CPU and/or motherboard for a gentoo system

[Bob Sanders]

> 
> 
> If I ever wanted to change CPU, would a 64 bit amd cpu work on this
> system, or would I have to mount the system from a live CD and rebuild
> it from scratch, or else rebuild it from scratch with -mcpu before
> changing cpu ?
>

Well, I just went through this - 2P Athlon Mp motherboard died (after 2 yrs
of real abuse - running at 90 F ambient in the summer).

So I reaplced it with a Shuttle SN95 and a single AMD64 3000+.  As the
system drive was always seperate from the /home drive, I rebuilt by
mounting a live CD, AMD64.  Then wholesale deleted (I'd backed the config files
I was interested in to /home) -

   /bin
   /sbin
   /lib
   /boot/*
   /dev
   /etc
   /var
   /opt/blackdown*, /opt/netscape, /opt/opera, /opt/BashBurn
   /usr/{X11R6,bin,share,include,...} all but /usr/local,  and /usr/portage

Then I did a stage3 install, an was back up and running in about 1 hr.  About
half a day to get the desktop back - Enlightenment.  It would have gone
faster, but I only had 256 MB of memory at the time, thus it was swapping
quite a bit during compilies.

I was unable to get on the net to build the kernel as I didn't know the
name of the ethernet driver, but I already had 2.6.0-r4 in 
/usr/portage/distfiles
so I set the ~amd64 flag for it in /usr/portage/package.keywords and built
that kernel.  As the driver for the ethernet - Yukon/Marvell is in the kernel,
a reboot from the live CD and I was up and running.  But I had all the source
files so there was no need to go to the net to get the system running.

It's been quite stable and pretty solid.  I've even been doing transfers
from my DV deck to /home to enable video editing.
 
> 
> Has anyone had experience with this sort of problem ? What would be
> the safest and smoothest way to face this ?
>

It's not a big deal.  Really.  Boot a liveCD and build a new kernel, swap
the system out, it'll all work fine.  Going from x86 to x86_64 is not much
of an issue.  Just back up the revelant config files -

  /etc/conf.d/net
  /etc/resolv.conf
  /etc/fstab
  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
  /etc/conf.d/local.start
  /etc/udev/* (whatever special device files you've added)
  /etc/hotplug/usb/* (again whatever special device files)

And whatever else you've massivley modified.  I'm a single user, so blowing
away /etc/passwd and /etc/group was no big deal.  Mail comes from a pop3
isp, thus mail config is as a user, but save that config file. 

Others probably have moved real servers and can provide better details, but
I took the oportunity to get rid of pam by not installing it.

Beware - if you use lots of heavyweight packages - KDE, Gnome, Open Office, etc.
Rebuild time is going to be significantly longer than my install.  I susggest
building a lightweight environment - fluxbox, get your user set up, then
kick off the long builds at night.

As I couldn't build with multilib from the current LiveCD, I had to install
the emulation libs, then add the multilib USE flag, then I rebuilt
with an emerge -ept system.  But that's just something to do later
on after you're back up and running.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Bastian Balthazar Bux ha scritto:
Paul Kain ha scritto:
Hi All
I am setting up aserver according to this guide
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server#Configuring_dhcp
Unfortunately it gets to a part where it says rc-update add dhcpd 
default

and I get an error saying /etc/init.d/dhcpd not found
 

should be
# net-misc/dhcp
# emerge -av net-misc/dhcp
:P
# rc-update add dhcp default
# /etc/init.d/dhcp start
# rc-status
see also
/etc/dhcp/*
/etc/conf.d/dhcp
can anyone point me in the right direction please?
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Qian Qiao]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:06:34 +0200, Paul Kain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am setting up aserver according to this guide
> 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server#Configuring_dhcp
> 
> Unfortunately it gets to a part where it says rc-update add dhcpd default
> 
> and I get an error saying /etc/init.d/dhcpd not found
> 
> can anyone point me in the right direction please?
> 

If you want a dhcp server, you'll need dhcp, there isn't a 'd'.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Paul Kain ha scritto:
Hi All
I am setting up aserver according to this guide
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server#Configuring_dhcp
Unfortunately it gets to a part where it says rc-update add dhcpd default
and I get an error saying /etc/init.d/dhcpd not found
 

should be
# net-misc/dhcp
# rc-update add dhcp default
# /etc/init.d/dhcp start
# rc-status
see also
/etc/dhcp/*
/etc/conf.d/dhcp
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Re: [gentoo-user] Downdating?

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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|   How do I run emerge update World so that files only get updated with
|   newer versions instead of downdated with older versions?
Create /etc/portage/package.mask and add lines like:

For example: echo "> /etc/portage/package.mask
Do NOT use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge foo! Always use
/etc/package.keywords for that.
For example: echo media-gfx/gimp ~x86 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
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Karsten
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[gentoo-user] dhcp or dhcpd ?

[Paul Kain]

Hi All

I am setting up aserver according to this guide

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server#Configuring_dhcp

Unfortunately it gets to a part where it says rc-update add dhcpd default

and I get an error saying /etc/init.d/dhcpd not found

can anyone point me in the right direction please?

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[gentoo-user] Downdating?

[Tony Boom]

Hello gentoo-user,

  How do I run emerge update World so that files only get updated with
  newer versions instead of downdated with older versions?

  I just updated world and instead of having Gimp 2.2 that I started with I
  now have Gimp 2.0 and a host of other older downdated files.

  MNI TNX

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[gentoo-user] changing CPU and/or motherboard for a gentoo system

[Michele Alzetta]

A few days ago I started having problems with my BIOS and I thought it
was my motherboard (a while ago the inbuilt ethernet broke and I had
to pass to another card - luckily I already had a second one installed
- so something definitely HAS happened to the mobo).

The BIOS problems seem to have disappeared by simply changing the
battery (lucky me !).

However this started a train of thought. 
I have a gentoo system with CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp  etc. etc. ".

If I ever wanted to change CPU, would a 64 bit amd cpu work on this
system, or would I have to mount the system from a live CD and rebuild
it from scratch, or else rebuild it from scratch with -mcpu before
changing cpu ?

If the motherboard broke and I wanted to change __that__ ... I imagine
my kernel might not work, so mounting the system and building a new
kernel would be a must ...

Has anyone had experience with this sort of problem ? What would be
the safest and smoothest way to face this ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Jim Hatfield ha scritto:
if you can boot from cd AND you have an athlon you can do this:
boot from rescue, mount your hd root
# wget http://www.francesco-riosa.com/gentoo/old/acl-2.2.27.tbz2
# tar -C /mnt/gentoo -jxvf acl-2.2.27.tbz2
where "/mnt/gentoo" is your hd root mount point
   

Well it seemed to like that - now it complains about libattr.so.1, so 
I guess it must have loaded libacl successfully.

 

# wget http://www.francesco-riosa.com/gentoo/old/attr-2.4.19.tbz2
# tar -C /mnt/gentoo -jxvf attr-2.4.19.tbz2
if you still miss something try to post the output of 
ldd /usr/bin/package-that-fail

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Gentoo Linux and Windows XP on the same hard disk on the same computer"

[Collins Richey]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:15:05 +, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:44:58 -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
> 
> > YMMV, I tried that, but WinXP still left an unmoveable file in the
> > middle of the disk even after turning off virtual memory. I'm not a
> > windows expert, so I don't have a clue what the file was. So, I was
> > left with the convenience of getting half the space freed quickly and
> > the inconvenience of some unused space in the WinXP partition.
> 
> I dealt with that by booting back into XP and running the defragmenter
> again, which put the swap file back in the middle of the new partition.
> then I could halve its size again.
> 

Now that's the answer. I'll keep this little gem for when I have to do
that again! Fortunately I've got an extra disk ready to install, so
I'll have a little more room to play with the disk that has WinXP on
it.

Learning w-a-y more than I ever wanted to know about WinXP .

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Gentoo Linux and Windows XP on the same hard disk on the same computer"

[Neil Bothwick]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:44:58 -0700, Collins Richey wrote:

> YMMV, I tried that, but WinXP still left an unmoveable file in the
> middle of the disk even after turning off virtual memory. I'm not a
> windows expert, so I don't have a clue what the file was. So, I was
> left with the convenience of getting half the space freed quickly and
> the inconvenience of some unused space in the WinXP partition.

I dealt with that by booting back into XP and running the defragmenter
again, which put the swap file back in the middle of the new partition.
then I could halve its size again. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Jim Hatfield]

>if you can boot from cd AND you have an athlon you can do this:
>boot from rescue, mount your hd root
># wget http://www.francesco-riosa.com/gentoo/old/acl-2.2.27.tbz2
># tar -C /mnt/gentoo -jxvf acl-2.2.27.tbz2
>where "/mnt/gentoo" is your hd root mount point

Well it seemed to like that - now it complains about libattr.so.1, so 
I guess it must have loaded libacl successfully.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 19:06 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Already the way you suggested but it doesn't work: I can still connect by
> userid and password.
> Any other suggestion?
> Ciao
> Vittorio

did you restart sshd after changing the config file?

> :-- Messaggio originale --
> :Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:54:53 -0500
> :From: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :Reply-To: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication
> :
> :
> :just make sure all other auth methods are set to 'no'
> :
> :UsePAM no
> :PasswordAuthentication no
> :PermitEmptyPasswords no
> :
> :and such
> :
> :
> :On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:52:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
> :> server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server
> remotely
> :> by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more
> :conventional
> :> userid & password.
> :> 
> :> I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa 
> authentication
> :> working and not other options.
> :> 
> :> What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?
> :> 
> :> Ciao
> :> Vittorio
> :> 
> :> --
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> :> 
> :>
> :
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

[Brett Curtis]

This is my config, works well over here.

#   $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.68 2003/12/29 16:39:50 millert Exp $

# This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file.  See
# sshd_config(5) for more information.

# This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

# The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with
# OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where
# possible, but leave them commented.  Uncommented options change a
# default value.

#Port 22
Protocol 2
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
#ListenAddress ::

# HostKey for protocol version 1
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key

# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
#KeyRegenerationInterval 3600
#ServerKeyBits 768

# Logging
#obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging
SyslogFacility AUTH
LogLevel INFO

# Authentication:

LoginGraceTime 60
PermitRootLogin no
#StrictModes yes

#RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys

# rhosts authentication should not be used
RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
#IgnoreRhosts yes
# For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
#RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# similar for protocol version 2
#HostbasedAuthentication no
# Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for
# RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts no

# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
PasswordAuthentication no
PermitEmptyPasswords no

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes

# Kerberos options
#KerberosAuthentication no
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#KerberosTicketCleanup yes

#AFSTokenPassing no

# Kerberos TGT Passing only works with the AFS kaserver
#KerberosTgtPassing no

# Set this to 'yes' to enable PAM keyboard-interactive authentication
# Warning: enabling this may bypass the setting of 'PasswordAuthentication'
#PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt no

#X11Forwarding no
#X11DisplayOffset 10
#X11UseLocalhost yes
PrintMotd no
PrintLastLog no
#KeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no
#UsePrivilegeSeparation yes
#PermitUserEnvironment no
#Compression yes
UsePAM no
#MaxStartups 10
# no default banner path
#Banner /some/path
#VerifyReverseMapping no
UseDNS no
# override default of no subsystems
Subsystem   sftp/usr/lib/misc/sftp-server

# Only people in wheel or admin group can access
AllowGroups

# And of those groups, only these users can ssh
AllowUsers



On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:06:00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Already the way you suggested but it doesn't work: I can still connect by
> userid and password.
> Any other suggestion?
> Ciao
> Vittorio
> :-- Messaggio originale --
> :Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:54:53 -0500
> :From: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :Reply-To: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication
> :
> :
> :just make sure all other auth methods are set to 'no'
> :
> :UsePAM no
> :PasswordAuthentication no
> :PermitEmptyPasswords no
> :
> :and such
> :
> :
> :On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:52:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
> :> server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server
> remotely
> :> by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more
> :conventional
> :> userid & password.
> :>
> :> I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa 
> authentication
> :> working and not other options.
> :>
> :> What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?
> :>
> :> Ciao
> :> Vittorio
> :>
> :> --
> :> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> :>
> :>
> :
> :--
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> :
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Jim Hatfield]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:32:10 - , in local.gentoo.users you wrote:

>if you can boot from cd AND you have an athlon you can do this:
>boot from rescue, mount your hd root
># wget http://www.francesco-riosa.com/gentoo/old/acl-2.2.27.tbz2
># tar -C /mnt/gentoo -jxvf acl-2.2.27.tbz2
>where "/mnt/gentoo" is your hd root mount point

It's an AMD Duron, worth a try, thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] "Gentoo Linux and Windows XP on the same hard disk on the same computer"

[Phil Sexton]

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 12:51, Nick Smith wrote:

> you need one of those 'live windows cd's' or i think M$ calls it the
> pre-installation environment cd, a mini windows run totally from cd just
> like the linux kinds, will let you move anything around on the disk and
> even delete files (system volume information and such) that you normally
> cant remove while in windows, even in safe mode. is worth a shot.

Windows XP Recovery Console:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314058
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerged world, now can't su

[Mike Payson]

Mike Payson wrote:
I just ran 'emerge -u world' for the first time in about three weeks, 
and ran dispatch-conf to update my config files. Now, when I try to su 
to root, I always get permission denied. I'm certain that I'm typing 
the password, but to be safe, I have reset the password twice now with 
no luck. The user is in the wheel group. I believe that  their was a 
PAM config file that was updated, but I assumed that since I hadn't 
changed the old one, it would be safe to replace it with the new one.

More info... I tried adding a test user & su'ing to that from my main 
user, and I can't do that either. This suggests that the problem isn't 
related to becoming root, but that something is corrupt. The user was 
created successfully, the shadow file looks fine to me, and I can su to 
other users from root, but clearly somewhere something isn't working right.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

[v . demartino2]

Already the way you suggested but it doesn't work: I can still connect by
userid and password.
Any other suggestion?
Ciao
Vittorio
:-- Messaggio originale --
:Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:54:53 -0500
:From: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:Reply-To: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication
:
:
:just make sure all other auth methods are set to 'no'
:
:UsePAM no
:PasswordAuthentication no
:PermitEmptyPasswords no
:
:and such
:
:
:On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:52:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
:> server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server
remotely
:> by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more
:conventional
:> userid & password.
:>
:> I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa 
authentication
:> working and not other options.
:>
:> What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?
:>
:> Ciao
:> Vittorio
:>
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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Jim Hatfield]

>Try to run "revdep-rebuild" to remerge the missing dependencies. It
>should bring your system back to normal. Also consider using the
>dep-script (see below for URL) made by ecatmur instead of the broken
>emerge --depclean.
>
>URL: http://home.jesus.ox.ac.uk/~ecatmur/my-bin/dep

revdep-rebuild invokes emerge which requires libacl, so no go.





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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

[Brett Curtis]

just make sure all other auth methods are set to 'no'

UsePAM no
PasswordAuthentication no
PermitEmptyPasswords no

and such


On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:52:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
> server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server remotely
> by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more 
> conventional
> userid & password.
> 
> I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa 
> authentication
> working and not other options.
> 
> What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?
> 
> Ciao
> Vittorio
> 
> --
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> 
>

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[gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

[v . demartino2]

I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server remotely
by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more 
conventional
userid & password.

I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa authentication
working and not other options.

What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?

Ciao
Vittorio


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Re: [gentoo-user] "Gentoo Linux and Windows XP on the same hard disk on the same computer"

[Nick Smith]

> YMMV, I tried that, but WinXP still left an unmoveable file in the
> middle of the disk even after turning off virtual memory. I'm not a
> windows expert, so I don't have a clue what the file was. So, I was
> left with the convenience of getting half the space freed quickly and
> the inconvenience of some unused space in the WinXP partition.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
you need one of those 'live windows cd's' or i think M$ calls it the
pre-installation environment cd, a mini windows run totally from cd just
like the linux kinds, will let you move anything around on the disk and
even delete files (system volume information and such) that you normally
cant remove while in windows, even in safe mode. is worth a shot.
> -- 
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> 
Nick Smith

Gentoo Linux: Portage 2.0.51-r14. kernel-2.6.9-gentoo-r13. 2005 i686
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Re: [gentoo-user] "Gentoo Linux and Windows XP on the same hard disk on the same computer"

[Collins Richey]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:13:20 +0100, Mariusz PÄkala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-02-06 20:19:58 + (Sun, Feb), Martin Scharrer wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 February 2005 17:53, Collins Richey wrote:
> >
> > > [...] WinXP in its great
> > > wisdom (NOT) puts the Windows Swap file right in the middle of the
> > > partition, and that file is marked as unmovable, so with all the tools
> > > I'm aware of, you will only be able to get half of the space (starting
> > > right after the swap file) free for use as new partitions for Linux.
> 
> > Because I don't had any problems to resize a 40GB Windows XP Home partition
> > down to 8GB on my Laptop.
> 
> I managed to shrink 20GB into 7GB for XP on my laptop and I remember no
> troubles with that. I did it using only GNUish tools: sys-fs/ntfsprogs ,
> no PartitionMagic.
> 
> As for the swapfile - you can always temporarily disable virtual memory
> in WinXP, reboot, test that WinXP is alive, repartition, reboot to
> WinXp, enable virtual memory and live happily ever after.
> 

YMMV, I tried that, but WinXP still left an unmoveable file in the
middle of the disk even after turning off virtual memory. I'm not a
windows expert, so I don't have a clue what the file was. So, I was
left with the convenience of getting half the space freed quickly and
the inconvenience of some unused space in the WinXP partition.

Good luck.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

[Frédéric Grosshans]

Le dimanche 06 février 2005 à 12:17 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb a écrit :
> Tried them and they work - but I wonder what's wrong with my system in 
> that it won't mount a dos floppy.  Ext2 floppy works fine.

Is your kernel compiled with the following option ?

File systems
-> Partition Types
-> Advanced partition selection 
[*]   PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support 


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Re: [gentoo-user] what is i686-pc-linunx-gnu?

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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| What is meaning i686-pc-linux-gnu?
The CHOST, in other words the target architecture for which gcc is
compiling your stuff.
| Can I replase pc with server or home_router?
You sure can, but don't be surprised if anything related to gcc
compiling things goes wrong. :) In other words, DON'T do it.
See man gcc for details.
Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] what is i686-pc-linunx-gnu?

[Steven Susbauer]

No. That is telling GCC what type of box it is compiling for. It's best 
to leave that where it's set unless it's not an i686.

Vitaly Ivanov wrote:
Hello all
What is meaning i686-pc-linux-gnu?
Can I replase pc with server or home_router?
Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] openldap

[Nick Smith]

On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 11:56 +0300, Alexander Zubkov wrote:
> > 
> > im very new to openldap so im not quite sure how to set it up, i can
> > just emerge it and then start adding people? and also, is there a file i
> > can edit and put all of them in there or do i have to run that command
> > every time i want to add someone? also what about a gui frontend for
> > adding people? is there one? perhaps that i can access remotely as well?
> > sorry for all the questions.
> 
> You can use commands or something else - it's your choise. You can try 
> emerge ldapbrowser for GUI.
> You need to authenticate in LDAP to modify entries because You need no 
> anybody able to do this. As MySQL uses its database to differentiate 
> access, so LDAP does - you need to authenticate with LDAP server to work 
> with it, but You can use directory for whatever You want/can.
> PS. What did You mean "global address list"? Address of what?
> 
i want to use ldap as a global address email list, or contact list for
my contacts, so its a centralized place and i dont have to add my
contacts to every email client i sit down at. sorry i just know it as
global address list GAL from my exchange days
> 
> Alexander Zubkov
> 
Nick Smith

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[gentoo-user] what is i686-pc-linunx-gnu?

[Vitaly Ivanov]

Hello all
What is meaning i686-pc-linux-gnu?
Can I replase pc with server or home_router?
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious lockups

[Bob Sanders]

> 
> Now, I know this is about the most vague question I can ask, but
> does anyone have any suggestions on likely places to start looking?
> I haven't changed any hardware, so I'm guessing that it's a software
> issue.  I have no idea what is causing the lockup.
>

Typically it's the graphics drivers hanging the AGP bus.  But you didn't
memtion if you were running xscreensaver.  If you're running xscreensaver,
do - 

   rc-update add sshd default
   /etc/init.d/sshd start

Then, when it hang again, ssh in and killall xscreensaver.

 
> If I had to make a random guess, I would guess it's the nvidia
> drivers (nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx version 1.0.6629-r1).  But
> that's just a totally wild guess :)
>

Look in /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card

crosis rsanders # cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes: Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates:   8x 4x
Registers:   0x1f000e1b:0x

If you have SBA and Fast Writes on, try turning them
off - /etc/modules.d/nvidia

Gernerally either of the above will fix most Nvidia/X related hangs.
Though on older VIA based motherboards, (Pre-K{T,M}400A, you might
consider an upgrade.  Note that some of them had some AGP noise
issues, not all of them.

For general system testing - not graphics, but it will rule out other
hardware problems, there is - app-benchmarks/stress.

For Gfx issues, I typically, run - x11-misc/rss-glx
by launching 3 of the OpenGL screen savers from the rss-glx
package while running 5 minute intervals of stress in another
term with paramters to cause up to half of swap to be used.

The other useful tool I've found is setiathome.  It doesn't
do anythign for Gfx testing, but it does help out in keeping
the cpu, cpu bus, memory bus, and ide/scsi bus active enough to
remove doubts that those might be a problem.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs crash after RAM upgrade on laptop!

[Hareesh Nagarajan]

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:15:25 -0500, Phil Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Very few retail stores that sell brand name computers have limited if
> any understanding of computers, IMHO. 

I don't really think you need the folks at the retail store to
understand anything about computers. If you do all the research, if
you read specs online for everything that you are interested in which
is on sale, then you wouldn't care too hoots about what the rep at the
store has to say. And the rep wouldn't care if you wanted to return
something that didn't work.

> My suggestion: Avoid such places. BYOB (Build your own box).  Then you
> KNOW what you have in it.

I came to Chicago, IL to attend school after spending most of my life
in Bangalore, India. Out there, no one I know has ever bought a
'branded' computer. Most people assemble computers with the help of a
dealer (who on most occassions is pretty darn shady!). So in some
wierd way they BTOB.

Hareesh

PS: I'm off to Circuit City to return the buggy RAM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Everything (seems to) has disappeared from Thunderbird

[Hareesh Nagarajan]

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:07:23 -0600, Kathy Wills
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looking at your screenshot, it shows a little box that looks like a
> folder at the right hand corner of the pane where your folder listing
> should be. What does clicking on that do?

Nothing!

What I did was:
0. I renamed my old 'default' tbird directory to something arbitrary
1. I ran tbird, which then created a new 'default' directory.
2. Added my account information again
3. Copied my email from my old tbird directory to the new one
4. Copied my addressbook info.

After 80 minutes of doing this junk (and a number of other things!), I
am back to using my email client.

Hareesh

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge gnucash error

[Helder Lima]

Thanks!
Now it owrks


On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:36:57 +, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:31:32 +, Helder Lima wrote:
> 
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/
> > bin/ld: cannot find -lgwrap-glib
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> (re)emerge dev-libs/g-wrap
> 
> --
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> 
> Redmond, WA, Dec. 15, 1998 -- Microsoft announced today that the official
> release date for the new operating system, "Windows 2000," will be delayed
> until the second quarter of 1901.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone with Asus A7V333 and USB2.0 working?

[Holly Bostick]

Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
Hi there,
I recently posted about some problems I was having with my USB ports
and an ACER memory stick. After doing some tests, I discovered that
the stick works perfectly when plugged in a USB 1.1 port (this mobo
has both USB1.1 and USB2.0 ports), but fails miserably when plugged in
a USB 2.0 port. Before going any further I would like to know if there
is anybody out there with this mobo and USB2.0 working, as I have
found some threads at VIA Arena forums that seemed to imply that
USB2.0 was broken in this mobo.
Thanks in advance, best regards
Jose
This sequence of events would seem to suggest that 1) the stick itself 
is a USB 1.1 stick, and 2) the USB 2.0 ports are not 1.1 
backwards-compatible (perhaps this functionality was disabled in some 
way, since you do already have 1.1 ports on the board).

I'm just curious (since I don't have this mobo and can't actually help 
you); why do you think that the USB 2.0 ports themselves don't work (if 
the case is, as it appears, that you have not tested them with a 2.0 
device)?

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Re: dd as backup?

[Remy Blank]

David Corbin wrote:
This seems like a GREAT thing to have written up as HOWTO...
Well, yes... Next time I have to do it, I'll write down all the steps 
precisely, so that the HOWTO doesn't become an "approximate-HOWTO"...

Where's the best place to store such a document? gentoo-wiki.com?
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge gnucash error

[Neil Bothwick]

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:31:32 +, Helder Lima wrote:

> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/
> bin/ld: cannot find -lgwrap-glib
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

(re)emerge dev-libs/g-wrap


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release date for the new operating system, "Windows 2000," will be delayed
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Re: [gentoo-user] reboot failure

[Michael Nygard]

This happened to me once when I had a BIOS utility swapping the first & second hard drives.


On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 15:45 -0800, John Patrick Coder wrote:


OK I have checked the fstab file and it seems ok,
Aafter I run "grub-install ..." it ends with

"..."
"(FD0) /dev/fd0"
"(HD0) /dev/hda"

upon rebooting I am still getting a "primary master hard disk fail"
and the light to my floppy drive is going crazy

Does this mean that grub is looking for a floppy upon startup?
I have tried to set the root device from the grub prompt to (hd0,0) and
then run setup and although this seems to change the root device to the
harddrive upon rebooting non of the settings are saved.



On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

> On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 22:27 -0800, John Patrick Coder wrote:
> > upon the first reboot during the install I get a "primary master hard disk
> > fail"
> >
> > I will guess that this is from some mistake from step eight, I tried a
> > stage three install and my etc/fstab file looked a little different than
> > is in the manuel
>
> you should reboot from the cd, and follow the instructions to mount your
> gentoo root dir and chroot into it, then thoroughly check your grub
> configuration and your /etc/fstab file. post them here if you are still
> having problems.
>
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge gnucash error

[Helder Lima]

Neil

I cut the two lines above error.

/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
cannot find -lgwrap-glib
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status



On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:26:00 +, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:06:55 +, Helder Lima wrote:
> 
> > !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
> > message. 
> >
> > How solve this problem?
> 
> We need more information, you have only shown the consequences of the
> error, not the error itself. To be safe, post from the last few lines that
> do not include errors.
> 
> --
> Neil Bothwick
> 
> Money can't buy happiness. But it sure makes misery easier to live with.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs crash after RAM upgrade on laptop!

[Holly Bostick]

Phil Sexton wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 06:57, Holly Bostick wrote:

My suggestion: Avoid such places. BYOB (Build your own box).  Then you
KNOW what you have in it.
Of course, having said all that I said, I remembered this is a laptop, 
which is somewhat more difficult to build from scratch (but it is still 
possible, I think; some stores will allow you to specify your parts).

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs crash after RAM upgrade on laptop!

[Holly Bostick]

Phil Sexton wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 06:57, Holly Bostick wrote:
It being Circuit City (perhaps not the most expert shop known to 
(wo)man), this may not be much help, but it's worth a shot.
Take them a memtest86 floppy or bootable CD with memtest86 and let them
run that and see that is is bad for themself.  If they won't accept it
back, raise the volume and ask for the next person up the chain, even if
you have to go over the owner's head to the CEO of the company. 
Squeaking wheels are the ones that get oiled.
That's a good idea  :-) .
I agree about their experise strongly.
Very few retail stores that sell brand name computers have limited if
any understanding of computers, IMHO.  They might, at most, have learned
the clicks to to a few things, but when I was stupid about getting my
first modern computer (from TRS-80 to Windows 98 upgrade..) I asked the
proper questions about what I wanted in the machine (quality sound card,
hardware modem, etc., the salesman had to go consult someone and he lied
to me as it had built in sound with no sampled sounds in the midi, and a
winmodem, and built in video with barely enough ram to run, plus the
monitor was the fuzziest I have ever seen (none were out for display,
obviously it wouldn't sell if seen working).
My suggestion: Avoid such places. BYOB (Build your own box).  Then you
KNOW what you have in it.
I'm with that 100%. I was "lucky", my first x86 PC (prior to this I had 
been a Mac user) was a secondhand 286 (in the days of 486, just before 
the Pentium was released). In order to make it remotely useable (i.e., 
run Windows 3.1 on it), I had to learn how to rebuild it (this thing had 
a full-size 5.25" HDD, if anyone remembers those, so I had to get a 
controller card-- which I had never heard of before-- to add a "normal" 
3.5" HDD and so on). I learned a lot, but it meant that I could no 
longer go into CompUSA and "just buy a Compaq/HP/Vaio (this was when 
Sony still made desktops)/Gateway/Dell (although this was before Dell 
sold home desktops in the volume they do now)", because no one could 
tell me what was in the box-- and by this time, I had a working 
familiarity with mobo makes and models, soundcard makes and models, and 
modem makes and models... and I knew what a WinModem was, and did not 
want one.

But it's not *all* the store's fault-- have you ever tried to look up on 
the relevant manufacturer's site just what parts are in any of their 
off-the-rack boxes? It ain't easy; most of them won't tell you the full 
specs.

After a lot of digging, I came to the conclusion that such companies 
tend to reduce the costs incurred by putting in a "good" video card 
(because the user might well be familiar with the makes of video card, 
so they have to tell you what that is) and a "relatively decent" CPU (it 
may be a Celeron, but it's a high-Mhz Celeron, so it sounds good), by 
combining the costly parts with the cheapest, crappiest motherboard 
possible (PCChips was the usual choice, and at the time PCChips mobos 
were complete and utter garbage, though they seem to have improved 
slightly in the intervening years). The idea seemed to be that they just 
wouldn't publicize the make and model of the mobo, not in their folders, 
not on their site... and of course, opening the box and actually looking 
voids your warranty, so there you go. Snookered.

So the store actually couldn't answer my questions, even had they known 
their heads from their hindquarters, because they hadn't been told 
either. The WinModem situation was not dissimilar-- my boyfriend has a 
story about being told that the WinModem he was being offered *was* the 
hardware modem he was asking for, because it "was on a PCB card that 
slots into your computer" (thus, it was "hardware", get it?). And he's 
Dutch, so the idiocy of computer shop personnel is not limited to the U.S.

But at the time, the Microsoft/Intel conglomerate seemed to be actively 
misleading people by suggestion; "real" modems were getting too 
expensive (especially since they were still so slow), winmodems were 
significantly cheaper (which was why the winmodem was created in the 
first place), and "everybody" (at least, everybody who might actually 
be stupid enough to go into Circuit City or CompUSA to 
buy overpriced, sub-standard parts) used Windows anyway. So it was in 
the best interests of all concerned (the manufacturers, Microsoft, and 
the stores themselves) to have you buy a Winmodem and conceal the fact 
(either through ignorance or suggestion) that a Winmodem has significant 
differences from a "real" modem, which could come back and bite you in 
the butt (even under Windows, but certainly if you ever went insane and 
switched OS; Linux wasn't even on the radar then, but OS/2 sure was, and 
a lot of good things were being said about BeOS as well, so it was 
possible that one might switch OS).

So yes, build your own box. Not only do you know what's in it, you can 
also open the box without fear, and you