Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:03:46AM -0800, John Lowell wrote
> 
> The setup here is almost trite: Three workstations with dynamic
> addresses behind an ADSL router/switch which doubles as a dhcp
> server, and the webserver mentioned earlier with a static address
> outside the range authorized for dynamic service and with port 80
> forwarded. I have /etc/conf.d/net with iface_eth0="192,168.1.44
> Broadcast 192.168.0.255 NetMask 255.255.255.0" and gateway enabled
> at 192.168.1.1. /etc/resolv.conf shows proper nameserver numbers.

  Two items

192,168.1.44
You have 192 comma 168 dot 1 dot 44
Should be 192  dot 168 dot 1 dot 44

Broadcast 192.168.0.255
Should be 192.168.1.255

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't complete the install!

2005-04-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 11:05:08AM -0500, Robert G. Hays wrote
> Nick,
> 
> IPv6, huh?  Hmmm  Any way to tell it v4?

  Delay the "mirrorselect" command until just after the "chroot"
command.  The chrooted environment doesn't see ipv6, so you'll only get
ipv4 mirrors.  If all else fails, replace the GENTOO_MIRRORS in your
/etc/make.conf with a copy of mine.  Watch the line-wrap.

GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://gentoo.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/gentoo/source/ 
ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/gentoo/ http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo 
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo";


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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

> I think the problem is that if you build a whole lot of packages only,
> without installing them, then (because each package is not actually
> installed on a live filesystem) any package that depends on an earlier
> one will fail.
>
> I know what I'm saying, but it isn't coming out right...

No it is, that makes sense.
And your advice about moving in small steps was spot on.

I would probably do a -uDtpv and emerge the small "subtrees" first and
work up to the bigger packages.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 23:45 -0500, A. Khattri wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> 
> > So what do I do if something fails when I emerge all this stuff? Is my
> > server going to go down? I am just wondering if there is anything I can
> > do to protect myself from downtime and errors.
> 
> Im sorry but the previous post already answered the question by quoting
> the documentation.
> 
> An emerge that fails does *not* get merged into your file-system and
> building binary packages also skips the merge step. (So how would it break
> your server if the package never gets merged into your file system?)
> 
> 
> man emerge

I think the problem is that if you build a whole lot of packages only,
without installing them, then (because each package is not actually
installed on a live filesystem) any package that depends on an earlier
one will fail.

I know what I'm saying, but it isn't coming out right...

> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Mike Turcotte wrote:

> So what do I do if something fails when I emerge all this stuff? Is my
> server going to go down? I am just wondering if there is anything I can
> do to protect myself from downtime and errors.

Im sorry but the previous post already answered the question by quoting
the documentation.

An emerge that fails does *not* get merged into your file-system and
building binary packages also skips the merge step. (So how would it break
your server if the package never gets merged into your file system?)


man emerge


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't complete the install!

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Bradley Krumme wrote:

> After you have the new system up and running, make your changes to
> make.conf for your own personal customizations (gotta love
> flexibility), then do 'emerge -e world' to rebuild everything with the
> new customizations.

Are you so god-awful lazy that you had to quote the entire thread when
posting a reply?! Please observe correct netiquette!

Thank you,


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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 22:59 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> So what do I do if something fails when I emerge all this stuff? Is my 
> server going to go down? I am just wondering if there is anything I can 
> do to protect myself from downtime and errors. I did a pretend emerge 
> and there are a TON of dependencies

well I am no expert, but if you want to take it one step at a time, how
about noting down what emerges portage wants to do (for example emerge
-uDp world > ~/portage.todo

then manually go through and install one at a time.

Don't foprget that if an emerge fails it hasn't removed the old version.
The old version isn't removed until after the new one is successfully
built.

One thing that could happen though is that a library might get updated
with a version that is not completely backwards compatible. Then
something that depends on the old version doesn't compile cleanly, you
are left with the old version of the app, not working because the old
library has disappeared.

I think at some stage you need to bite the bullet though.

A thought: if you installed a GRP, why not update to the latest GRP
precompiled stuff, the 2005.0 binaries are pretty new :-)

To do that I would do something like this:

*download the package .iso for your arch
*update portage to the same snapshot as used for the 2005.0 builds
*mount the .iso in a known location
*point gentoo at that location for its package directory
*do an emerge -uDkp world to see what portage wants to do.
* those last two can be combined with 

PKGDIR=/known/location emerge -uDkp world 

> 
> 
> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >man emerge
> >
> >--buildpkgonly (-B)
> >  Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without
> >actually merging  the  packages. This comes with the caveat that all
> >build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system.
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 20:51 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hello I am updating a server I built some time ago using a GRP install.
> >>I want to do an emerge -uD world, but I want to know for sure this is
> >>going to work before doing this. Can I tell it somehow to compile all
> >>the packages but not install them?
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread Mike Turcotte
So what do I do if something fails when I emerge all this stuff? Is my 
server going to go down? I am just wondering if there is anything I can 
do to protect myself from downtime and errors. I did a pretend emerge 
and there are a TON of dependencies

Nick Rout wrote:
man emerge
--buildpkgonly (-B)
 Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without
actually merging  the  packages. This comes with the caveat that all
build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system.
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 20:51 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
 

Hello I am updating a server I built some time ago using a GRP install.
I want to do an emerge -uD world, but I want to know for sure this is
going to work before doing this. Can I tell it somehow to compile all
the packages but not install them?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:15 -0800, John Lowell wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kashani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!
> 
> 
> > John Lowell wrote:
> >   > Thanks for writing.
> > >
> > > Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both ways
> with
> > > no difference being made.
> > >
> >
> > Why don't we clear this up and have you post your ifconfig and netstat -rn
> >
> > kashani
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 
> >
> >
> 
> Hi Kashani,
> 
> I certainly can post ifconfig and will but the netstat -rn is a problem. The
> command is not available to me with just the basic packages installed. This
> was a fresh stage1. I'll need to reconfigure /etc/conf.d/net for dhcp
> service to get the appropriate e-builld. Before I do that, have you any
> other thoughts or recommendations?


yeah for god's sake ifconfig and route -n 



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> jlowell
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Rout
man emerge

--buildpkgonly (-B)
  Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without
actually merging  the  packages. This comes with the caveat that all
build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system.


On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 20:51 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> Hello I am updating a server I built some time ago using a GRP install.
> I want to do an emerge -uD world, but I want to know for sure this is
> going to work before doing this. Can I tell it somehow to compile all
> the packages but not install them?
> 
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[gentoo-user] Vmware: Eject CD crashes VM

2005-04-01 Thread Kurt Guenther

Has anybody else noticed this?  It just gives an "11 exception" and dies
with a core.  I checked the log and it gives a register dump, etc.

--Kurt


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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Derek Hansen wrote:

> I have to admit, it had me going for just a little while...

Not me.  I first saw it on /.  Today, a *real* news story was the exception
on /.

For more april fools fun, Strongbad fans can check out:

http://www.homestarrunner.com


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[gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world

2005-04-01 Thread Mike Turcotte
Hello I am updating a server I built some time ago using a GRP install.
I want to do an emerge -uD world, but I want to know for sure this is
going to work before doing this. Can I tell it somehow to compile all
the packages but not install them?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 10:07 -0700, Kiawud wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what would happen if you modified the
> '/etc/init.d/named' file and commented out the line:
> 
> provide dns
> 
> Would that prevent Gentoo from thinking the '/etc/init.d/named'
> provided the 'dns' service?

The best way to find out (short of reading and understanding the whole
runlevel source code thing) would be to try it and see.

> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> -Hani
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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 10:23 -0800, John Lowell wrote:
> Uwe,
> 
> Thanks for writing.
> 
> Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both
> ways with
> no difference being made.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> jlowell

John, how about giving us the output of ifconfig and route -n on the
offending machine.



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[gentoo-user] ACPI events config file

2005-04-01 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Hi

I am setting up my ACPI on my notebook and have come across a small
problem. I am setting the events in the /etc/acpi/events/default
config file. Now I have got the ac_adapter event working nicely with
speedfreq. Now I want to setup my power button and sleep button.

This is from the acpid log file:
[Sat Apr  2 00:16:30 2005] starting up
[Sat Apr  2 00:16:30 2005] 1 rule loaded
[Sat Apr  2 00:16:35 2005] received event "button/lid LID 0080 0005"
[Sat Apr  2 00:16:35 2005] completed event "button/lid LID 0080 0005"
[Sat Apr  2 00:16:39 2005] received event "button/lid LID 0080 0006"
[Sat Apr  2 00:16:39 2005] completed event "button/lid LID 0080 0006"
[Sat Apr  2 00:19:36 2005] received event "button/sleep SLPB 0080 0002"
[Sat Apr  2 00:19:36 2005] completed event "button/sleep SLPB 0080 0002"
[Sat Apr  2 00:20:05 2005] received event "button/power PWRF 0080 0002"
[Sat Apr  2 00:20:05 2005] completed event "button/power PWRF 0080 0002"
[Sat Apr  2 00:21:32 2005] exiting

As you can see the acpid sees the sleep button lid and power button
being triggered. Now it is just a matter of getting it to do something
with the event.

Here is my /etc/acpi/events/default file:

event=button power.*
action=/etc/acpi/sleep.sh
#action=/sbin/init 0

event=button sleep.*
action=/etc/acpi/sleep.sh

event=button[ /]lid.*
action=/etc/acpi/sleep.sh

event=ac_adapter.*
action=/etc/acpi/ac.sh

As I said above my ac_adapter works perfectly its just now to get the
events working for the others. All the sleep.sh scipt does is tell
logger to log "Zzz" so that I can check whether the event is working
or not.

Any ideas as to why it is not working correctly?
I suspect it is the way I am defining the events seeing that the sleep
power and lid are all under the buttons director where ac_adapter is
on in its own directory.

Thanks
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 1, 2005 3:34 PM, David Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2005 12:19 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:41:05 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > | And since it's GMail I cannot control any of this.
> >
> > You are free to use a different email provider if you wish.

As the Gentoo List Administrator is free to change the operation back
to the way it was. As I said earlier, I have no problem with this one
way of another. I have no problem with trying to remember to erase the
duplicate, which I will try to do, and I have no problem if I forget
and a duplicate gets sent.

> 
> I don't see the problem - I'm sending this using gmail's web thing,
> and all I did was click in the box, and it's going to send the email
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> If it's sending/cc'ing it anywhere else, it's not telling me about it

Yes, that does work for me also. However on other lists I'm on that
normally sends only the the person who sent the message to that list
and not to the list itself. To get copies back to the list I have to
hit reply all so that's what I normally do and why I sometimes have
made mistakes in this area over the last few days.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread David Morgan
On Apr 2, 2005 12:19 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:41:05 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | And since it's GMail I cannot control any of this.
> 
> You are free to use a different email provider if you wish.
> 
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> 
> 
> 

I don't see the problem - I'm sending this using gmail's web thing,
and all I did was click in the box, and it's going to send the email
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If it's sending/cc'ing it anywhere else, it's not telling me about it
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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:41:05 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| And since it's GMail I cannot control any of this.

You are free to use a different email provider if you wish.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread David Busby
Stroller wrote:
I'm not sure of the details, and whether the project is completed or 
under development, but Microsoft do indeed intend that one should be 
able to run Linux apps on their XP server products. I _think_ this is 
via system calls rather than a virtual machine, but I don't really know 
- I'm sure a Google would reveal more.

Recently the Seattle Times news paper had an article about how Microsoft 
has a large (1000+ computer) lab dedicated to studying Linux, wish I 
could find the article...

/djb
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11: truetype-fonts vs. type1-fonts

2005-04-01 Thread Grant
> Depends on if you need some font(s) that are only in the M$ list.
> 
> & quality depends mostly on size & capabilities of the intended output
> device...
> 
> rgh

Has anyone compared truetype and type1 fonts rendered on something
comparable to a 15" LCD?

- Grant

> >>Nope, Type1 are high quality fonts from Adobe. Truetype are fonts
> >>introduced by M$. They are of lower quality.
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Is it beneficial to build both of them into an xorg installation or is
> >that a waste?
> >
> >- Grant
> >
> >
> >
> >>On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 13:32 -0800, Grant wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Are the USE flags 'truetype-fonts' and 'type1-fonts' in xorg-x11 meant
> >>>to be substitutes for each other?  I'm running the xfs font server,
> >>>and I know I'm supposed to keep my installed fonts down to those I
> >>>want.
> >>>
> >>>- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Robert G. Hays
Bradley:
I hope you're not making fun of the makarena, I happen to like it!  
  < with grin underneath!>

Chris:
& whyinhell would you want the NT kernel on your computer in the first 
place?; worst of both worlds!:: Windoze crash/kernel & Linux crash/GUI?
Get Win4Lin & do it right: Linux bulletproof/kernel & Windoze 
excellent/GUI.  (& I hate saying that last, but Truth Is, & I don't lie 
(not deliberately, anyway!)).

Mark:
Good One, Indeed!
Re Windoze/Gentoo, how about this::
Got Execrable Nasty Tottering Odoriferous Offal  ?
Leo:
Re programming, OO does help a little, but careful design *is* more 
imporant, so yup!, you're right!

rgh
Bradley Krumme wrote:
On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

It's got to be an april fool's joke...
   

Has to be. Why else would it use "NT" and "comercial-grade" in the same
paragraph?
 

Not really. Don't you know that
GENTOO == Gee Everyone NT's Object Oriented?
I'm not a programmer but I hear that Object Oriented programming makes
it trivial to port anything to anything. I'm not the least bit
surprised to hear this...
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That's funny.  I saw a couple other things today, too.  I did an
'emerge -uD --newuse world' today which upgraded mplayer to
mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2.  If I hadn't been watching, I wouldn't have seen
it, but there was a message that looked like this:
!!! ERROR: media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_makarena, Line 1000, Exitcode 555-
!!! All your base are belong to us!
* APRIL FOOLS!
so it looks like the Gentoo devs are having a good time today :D
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT Gentoo firewall appliances?

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, James wrote:


> Hardware choices are another issue. Since the connection will be
> light to moderate on bandwidth, any of the 300MHz+ little embedded
> firewall-box-appliance type of devices should suffice. The question
> is which one (3+ etherports) as if it is opensource and gentoo driven,
> I'd put that one at the top of the list. Anybody sell or recommend
> gentoo ready (Via, EPia, ..., or non x86 embedded) linux firewall box?
>
> Low power is of interest too.

Dont know if this is of any use, but the LinkSys routers are tiny Linux
boxes and there's been some work on getting a specific distro for it (see
openwrt.org). Dont know if you can use Gentoo to build this but it might
be an interesting project :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] anyone else having trouble with akgregator in kde 3.4?

2005-04-01 Thread Robert G. Hays
"With the Power comes the Gory."
rgh.
Robert Persson wrote:
On April 1, 2005 09:43 am, quoth Jeff Smelser:
 

On Thursday 31 March 2005 04:29 pm, Robert Persson wrote:
   

When I left-click on a link a new tab opens in akgregator, but the page
doesn't load there and the page-loading progress bar hangs at 0%.
Meanwhile the page loads in the external browser as it would if I had
middle-clicked the link.
 

Works just fine here..
Jeff
   

Aha!
I have just found that if I go into kcontrol->KDE Components->Component 
Chooser and set browser to open "based on contents the contents of the url" 
the problem goes away.

As always, thanks for helping me on this one.
Robert
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] used computer

2005-04-01 Thread Robert G. Hays
So make a deal with the employer(s) of one or more friends & family to 
get them  few dollars/whatever for computers they don't really use 
anymore, and take one computer (free?!) as your commission for the deal!

lol & best!
rgh
John Shawger wrote:
On Apr 1, 2005 1:15 AM, Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Have you tried looking into the company you work for?
   

lol.  I am a student.  That's why I don't have much money to spend.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot get Parallel Port to work

2005-04-01 Thread A. R.
Hi,

1. Have you check what the command "dmesg" shows?
2. Are you running on udev? 
3. Can you see the device under /dev for your printer 
(like lp0)?

If you see the device, then it is just a matter of the cups
configuration AFAIK. Try finding
the parallel port in the dropdown that allows you to select the device
for a new printer
in the CUPS web interface (that runs at http://localhost:631 by default). 
If you see the paralell port there, then it means it is ready to use.

HTH

-AR

On Apr 1, 2005 3:24 PM, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've followed the instructions in the 'Gentoo Printing Guide' but can't
> get my parallel printer to work.
> I'm running kernel 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 and have recompiled for parallel port
> support, pc-style hardware and enabled parallel printer support as per
> the instructions in the guide.
> I load the modules
> 
> modprobe lp
> modprobe parport
> modprobe parport_pc
> 
> but I don't get any indications in /var/log/messages that any parallel
> ports have been found.
> I know the parallel port is functional as it works from Windows and
> worked from Mandrake Linux (for the very short time I had it installed).
> 
> The printer is an HP Laserjet 4P and I have foomatic, cups and hpijs
> emerged.
> 
> Can anyone offer me any ideas on where I might start to diagnose this
> problem?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 1, 2005 12:19 PM, Bryan Oestergaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, not receiving duplicates due to filtering is certainly not what I
> meant by fixing your clients. I was actually hinting at clients (and
> users) behaving sensible and stop sending duplicates.
> 
> btw, I have no idea whether gmail sends duplicates or not.
> 
> Regards,
> Bryan Østergaard
> 

I don't think it sends 'duplicates'. It sends two emails to different addresses:

gentoo-user@gentoo.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The fact that the list administrator has decided to send email sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] along to me (and you) is like signing me
up to a list I didn't want to sigh up for. I signed up to receive
email from one address. I get it from two? (If it happens at all. I
don't know. I don't see it.)

And since it's GMail I cannot control any of this. All I can say is
that, in advance, I'm sorry for all the times in the future when I hit
reply-all, since that's what I HAVE to do to reply to the 25 other
lists I am subscribed to, and the list gets two copies. Gentoo-User
can be the one odd ball if it wants to be. I'll try to be a good
citizen, but so far I've hit reply-all at least 20 times and had to
erase the entry by hand, just like I did this time...

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't complete the install!

2005-04-01 Thread Bradley Krumme
On Apr 1, 2005 11:05 AM, Robert G. Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nick,
> 
> IPv6, huh?  Hmmm  Any way to tell it v4?
> 
> Local servers -- I did that, right under the 'stage 3' banner, and
> several are known to me as v4 capable; used themseveral times.
> 
> emerge-webrsync when it finishes says to now proceed with emerge --sync.
> 
> Given that I really, really wanted to do stage-1 & lots of
> custom/performance changes soon to get the best out of my system, don't
> I still need to do this?,  Probably  with --world or something?
> 
> Thank You!,
> rgh.
> 
> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >To cut a long story short it looks like the notorious ipv6 problem -
> >wherein mirrorselect choses ipv6 mirrors (because ipv6 is enabled on the
> >boot cd) but your chroot does not use ipv6.
> >
> >Find a mirror near you and put it in /etc/make.conf manually (within the
> >chroot), the mirror list is easy to find off the main gentoo.org page.
> >
> >
> >If that doesn't work use emerge-webrsync - once you have done that you
> >have enough to complete the install, you don't need to emerge --sync
> >after emerge-webrsync.
> >
> >On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 21:49 -0500, Robert G. Hays wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Gentoo universal CD + packages CD, 2004.3
> >>
> >>By-the-book, literally -- I printed it and punched it into binder !
> >>
> >>Note that I am typing & sending this in Windows, thus some data may be
> >>off a *little*, since Gentoo doesn't work.
> >>
> >>
> >>-
> >>stage 1 install :
> >>-
> >>
> >>Tried mirrorselect -a & -i, both: with & without -bX
> >>
> >>emerge --sync only finds raven, raptor, heron, hawk, crane, & cockatoo
> >>servers, no matter what.
> >>First server hit in a given run gets to about app-admin/?/io.c, at which
> >>point it gives code 30 at line 109 & code 12 at line 189 and times out,
> >>follow-on servers give nothing except list-of-files.
> >>
> >>emerge-webrsync finds one server, I forget which.  Says no md5's
> >>available at all, and quits.
> >>
> >>
> >>-
> >>stage 3 install :
> >>-
> >>
> >>same, even after I 'select with -o -i & -b10, picking ~12 *new* servers
> >>& retrying ~11 times.
> >>(Yes I mean that 'emerge --sync' hits the same 6 servers, or rather 4 of
> >>them per run, ignoring the servers I selected, or, retrying 11 times, -a
> >>-s12, recycles through same old 6.)
> >>
> >>emerge-webrsync finally found a server *I* told it to find, apparently
> >>worked, but...  emerge --sync performed per previous paragraph, except
> >>different files fetched, still the "io.c" errors above.
> >>
> >>...
> >>
> >>Rebooted to hdisk.
> >>
> >>Still can't get anything else, except one-at-a-time, and that has trouble.
> >>
> >>Can compile bzImage, can NOT compile modules without crash; seg-fault in
> >>various files, kernel panic in others.
> >>
> >>(SuSE 9.0 on target drive for ~10 months can compile anything, far more
> >>in a row than required to crash Gentoo-compiles, but oldconfig-bzImage
> >>does not match booted kernel, thus I will NOT patch-&c.  Otherwise, SuSE
> >>runs fine, always, no matter what the load.)
> >>
> >>And yes I dotted all the 'i's that I know of, in all above; 20+ years
> >>programming and everything else; I *do* know how to RTFM & *follow* it.
> >>
> >>
> >>-
> >>Hardware &c..:
> >>-
> >>
> >>Shuttle AN35N 400 Ultra+MCP mobo w/nVidia nForce2 chip ~6 months old.
> >>Never gets over ~45c.
> >>
> >>AMD XP 2700+, never gets over 51C, and that only once -- otherwise never
> >>over 47c.
> >>
> >>NO over-/under-  -clock/-voltage.
> >>
> >>1GB Centon RAM, as 512+256+256.  www.simmtester.com for 12 hours no
> >>errors, repeatedly.
> >>
> >>Maxtor 30G hda.  (Testing hd; will only fornicate with 'real' 120G when
> >>all works RIGHT.)
> >>
> >>ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 video 128MB, AGP8
> >>
> >>Sound Blaster Live Value PCI
> >>
> >>3Com '3c59x' NIC, PCI
> >>
> >>On-board Realtek sound & nic both turned off.
> >>
> >>All BIOS parms set for precisely what I have.  Precisely.
> >>-
> >>Netgear RP114 (updated) router between nic & Westell modem to phone-co
> >>(bellsouth) DSL 1.5m/256k.
> >>-
> >>Drive-parts:
> >>1) 512M dos
> >>2) 200M linux boot
> >>3) ~5.5G Win98/f32
> >>4) (extended)
> >>5) 1G unused limux (all-in-one)
> >>6) 15M hidden dos
> >>7) 15M dos
> >>8) ~1G f32
> >>9) ~1G f32
> >>10) 1G swap
> >>11) linux /, to end of drive; ~~20G.
> >>grub in 2).
> >>-
> >>Partitions & router are NOT negotiable!
> >>
> >>I NEED correct ATI drivers to get *ALL* functionality avail on video card.
> >>I NEED Win4Lin (for W98se under linux to solve native-mode issues).
> >>I intend other things, but these two are NOT negotiable, or else I'll
> >>just have to keep running Wunnerful-Hic!-Winders98SE-HIC!!.
> >>
> >>**POSSIBLE** that the 30G hd is bad, but I doubt, rest of machine is as
> >>solid as a planet.
> >>
> >>Why crashes & ignoring selected servers?
> >>
> >>PLEASE help!
> >>
> >>Thank you,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Stroller
On Apr 1, 2005, at 5:59 pm, Leo wrote:
Is the part about MS buying the posix interface it true?  I can't 
believe I fell for this even if just for the 5 minutes I though about 
how useless running linux on the NT kernel would be.
I'd like to have that second sentence framed & hung on the wall of 
every corporate manager on the planet. It won't make any difference, of 
course, but the engineers will at least be able to point at it 
afterwards and say "we told you so".

I'm not sure of the details, and whether the project is completed or 
under development, but Microsoft do indeed intend that one should be 
able to run Linux apps on their XP server products. I _think_ this is 
via system calls rather than a virtual machine, but I don't really know 
- I'm sure a Google would reveal more.

Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot get Parallel Port to work *RESOLVED*

2005-04-01 Thread Jamie Dobbs
After emerging kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 and compiling the parallel port
now works and I can print successfully.
Still having some issues getting some things I had working under the old
kernel working under the new one (lmsensors), but I should get that
sorted out shortly.

Jamie Dobbs wrote:

>I've followed the instructions in the 'Gentoo Printing Guide' but can't
>get my parallel printer to work.
>I'm running kernel 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 and have recompiled for parallel port
>support, pc-style hardware and enabled parallel printer support as per
>the instructions in the guide.
>I load the modules
>
>modprobe lp
>modprobe parport
>modprobe parport_pc
>
>but I don't get any indications in /var/log/messages that any parallel
>ports have been found.
>I know the parallel port is functional as it works from Windows and
>worked from Mandrake Linux (for the very short time I had it installed).
>
>The printer is an HP Laserjet 4P and I have foomatic, cups and hpijs
>emerged.
>
>Can anyone offer me any ideas on where I might start to diagnose this
>problem?
>
>Thanks
>
>Jamie
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>
>  
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Bryan Oestergaard
No, not receiving duplicates due to filtering is certainly not what I
meant by fixing your clients. I was actually hinting at clients (and
users) behaving sensible and stop sending duplicates.

btw, I have no idea whether gmail sends duplicates or not.

Regards,
Bryan Ãstergaard

> 
> OK by me. GMail recognizes this is happening. Through this whole silly
> change over I've never received a duplicate email, either from my
> mistakes or those mistakes by others. This problem is a non problem
> for me no matter whether I hit reply or reply-all.
> 
> Is that what the devs meant by 'fix your client'? If so, mine's fixed! ;-)
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 1, 2005 9:34 AM, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> 
> > Obviously.  That's why you're still posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Why not make that email address bounce back to the sender? Im sure it will
> sink in faster :-)
> 

OK by me. GMail recognizes this is happening. Through this whole silly
change over I've never received a duplicate email, either from my
mistakes or those mistakes by others. This problem is a non problem
for me no matter whether I hit reply or reply-all.

Is that what the devs meant by 'fix your client'? If so, mine's fixed! ;-)

Happy April 1st. 

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] OT Gentoo firewall appliances?

2005-04-01 Thread James
Hello all,

Being asked to build a new firewall, no doubt Gentoo is the distro.
Hardware choices are another issue. Since the connection will be
light to moderate on bandwidth, any of the 300MHz+ little embedded 
firewall-box-appliance type of devices should suffice. The question
is which one (3+ etherports) as if it is opensource and gentoo driven, 
I'd put that one at the top of the list. Anybody sell or recommend 
gentoo ready (Via, EPia, ..., or non x86 embedded) linux firewall box? 

Low power is of interest too. 

Here's a nice article on embedded linux devices and CompactFlash:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7383


James

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[gentoo-user] Re: Listing injected files

2005-04-01 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Friday 25 March 2005 19:08, PK wrote:
> I have found thats its easier to emerge -i file/name when co,ing
> across a bad package or something then waiting for an update to
> portage or a new package then re emerging the lot
>
> is there a command that lists all injected packages?
>
> --
No one answered the original question...

Try this:
http://gentooexperimental.org/script/repo/show/54
Ciao
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[gentoo-user] SSH/SFTP oddities

2005-04-01 Thread David Busby
List,
  I've got a box that my SFTP is not working properly one, or at least 
I think it's not.  I can SSH to the box fine with root or any another 
user, no problems.  I can SFTP to the box from a console on a different 
machine.  When I use jEdit to connect via SFTP it says that I have not 
authenticated, when I use this other Windows SFTP tool (not psftp) it 
has a dialog that pops up after authentication four times, like perhaps 
SFTP is spitting out control characters or something that is confusing 
jEdit (on Linux and Win32) and the other Win32 tool?  I can use the same 
jEdit or the Win32 SSH tools to connect to three another gentoo machines 
just fine.  All are using 2004.3 and have the same configs for sshd and 
pam an such.  I turned up the logging of sshd and even ran in the -d 
mode to test but saw nothing there.  Ideas?

/djb
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Re: [gentoo-user] Arts don't work

2005-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

On Friday 01 April 2005 15:24, Nuno Alexandre Neves Raimundo wrote:
> I have a problem with arts, i doesn't work!!!
>
> In the sound system module of the control center i can't enable the sound
> system. The progress bar go to 90% and then go to 0%, over an over.
>
> In the console, fi i execute artsd, the fowling error apears:
> unix_connect: can't connect to server
> (unix:/tmp/mcop-neves/localhost-541d-424d4a13)
> Segmentation fault
>
> I have kde 3.4
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hm, but you are logged in as the same user as you want to start arts?

Have you tried re-emerging it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh authentication wierdness

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Robert Persson wrote:

> Thanks everybody!
>
> Got it now.  (I was confused by a number of other errors happening at the same
> time).
>
> ssh -v zebedee showed that "zebedee" was being translated as 127.0.0.1,
> despite what it says in /etc/hosts.  Adding "ListenAddress 127.0.0.1" to
> sshd_config did the trick.

Err... 127.0.0.1 means "localhost", so if zebedee is on another machine
then that's not quite right.

> The other problem that was confusing everything is still a problem though.
> When I start the machine the /etc/init.d/sshd script doesn't start
> sshd,  /etc/init.d/sshd restart doesn't work and /etc/init.d/sshd status
> tells me that sshd is running when it isn't .  I have to /usr/sbin/sshd
> manually, after which the script works properly.

/etc/init.d/sshd zap
/etc/init.d/sshd start

rc-update add sshd default


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RE: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote:

> Obviously.  That's why you're still posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Why not make that email address bounce back to the sender? Im sure it will
sink in faster :-)


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RE: [gentoo-user] apache-1.3.33 with mod_perl and mod_php

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Felipe de Jesús Molina Bravo wrote:

> so, I write this, because, I found a solution to my problem. And there
> is how I solved it:
>
> #ebuild /path/of/mod_php.ebuild fetch
> #ebuild /path/of/mod_perl.ebuild fetch
> #ebuild /path/of/apache-1.3.33.ebuild fetch
>
> #ebuild /path/of/mod_php.ebuild unpack
> #ebuild /path/of/mod_perl.ebuild unpack
> #ebuild /path/of/apache-1.3.33.ebuild unpack
>
> Configure and compile, of course mod_php and mod_perl as static modules
> for apache (read the install of mod_perl and mod_php)
>
> #touch .configure
> for each work directoy (mod_php, mod_perl and apache)
> in order to tell portage that mod_php,mod_perl and apache are compiled
>
> #ebuild apache install
>
> #ebuild apache qmerge

In other words you did a manual install.

You may want to look at modifying the ebuild and making your own "local"
ebuild for apache and mod_perl (just copy the existing ebuilds into a
local copy under /usr/local/portage and modify them as needed, then set
PORTAGE_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf to activate it).

It would make future custom installs easier for you and everything is
still handled by using a single emerge command as normal.


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RE: [gentoo-user] ssh authentication wierdness

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
> The other problem that was confusing everything is still a problem though.
> When I start the machine the /etc/init.d/sshd script doesn't start
> sshd,  /etc/init.d/sshd restart doesn't work and /etc/init.d/sshd status
> tells me that sshd is running when it isn't .  I have to /usr/sbin/sshd
> manually, after which the script works properly.

1. kill sshd
2. remove /var/lib/init.d/started/sshd
3. rc-update add sshd default to ensure it is started when the system comes
up.
4. /etc/init.d/sshd start to restart the daemon.

That should fix the remaining issues.


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Re: [gentoo-user] anyone else having trouble with akgregator in kde 3.4?

2005-04-01 Thread Robert Persson
On April 1, 2005 09:43 am, quoth Jeff Smelser:
> On Thursday 31 March 2005 04:29 pm, Robert Persson wrote:
> > When I left-click on a link a new tab opens in akgregator, but the page
> > doesn't load there and the page-loading progress bar hangs at 0%.
> > Meanwhile the page loads in the external browser as it would if I had
> > middle-clicked the link.
>
> Works just fine here..
>
> Jeff

Aha!

I have just found that if I go into kcontrol->KDE Components->Component 
Chooser and set browser to open "based on contents the contents of the url" 
the problem goes away.

As always, thanks for helping me on this one.

Robert
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh authentication wierdness

2005-04-01 Thread Robert Persson
Thanks everybody! 

Got it now.  (I was confused by a number of other errors happening at the same 
time).

ssh -v zebedee showed that "zebedee" was being translated as 127.0.0.1, 
despite what it says in /etc/hosts.  Adding "ListenAddress 127.0.0.1" to 
sshd_config did the trick.

The other problem that was confusing everything is still a problem though.  
When I start the machine the /etc/init.d/sshd script doesn't start 
sshd,  /etc/init.d/sshd restart doesn't work and /etc/init.d/sshd status 
tells me that sshd is running when it isn't .  I have to /usr/sbin/sshd 
manually, after which the script works properly.

Robert

On March 31, 2005 08:58 pm, quoth Zarick Lau:
> Hi,
>
> On 31/Mar/05, Robert Persson wrote:
> > I have been trying to get ssh to start behaving and, among other
> > problems, I am unable to get ssh/sshd - one of the two - to deal with
> > hostnames properly.
> >
> > For instance I have just been trying to ssh into the machine I am working
> > on. In /etc/hosts is the line "192.168.1.2 zebedee".  However "ssh
> > 192.168.1.2" works, while "ssh zebedee" gets me a "connection refused"
> > error.   I get the same problem when I try to log in from a remote OSX
> > powerbook.  However I did not get this problem when I was running SuSE
> > 9.2.
> >
> > Why can't I use a hostname to log in?
>
> What about 'ping zebedee' doesn't ping get the IP address correctly?
> If no, then, the problem is due to sshd. You may check out nsswitch.conf
> make sure there is a line like:
>   hosts:files dns
>
> Also, just to be care.. I'd ask, where are you trying to use 'ssh' to
> connect to the ssh server? The same host, or other machine on the
> network?
>
> Last, you may use ssh -v zebedee, you may see more verbsoe message.
>
> cheers,
> Zarick
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Re: [gentoo-user] used computer

2005-04-01 Thread John Shawger
On Apr 1, 2005 1:15 AM, Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you tried looking into the company you work for?

lol.  I am a student.  That's why I don't have much money to spend.
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Re: [gentoo-user] anyone else having trouble with akgregator in kde 3.4?

2005-04-01 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Thursday 31 March 2005 04:29 pm, Robert Persson wrote:

> When I left-click on a link a new tab opens in akgregator, but the page
> doesn't load there and the page-loading progress bar hangs at 0%. 
> Meanwhile the page loads in the external browser as it would if I had
> middle-clicked the link.

Works just fine here.. 

Jeff


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RE: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!
> 
> On Apr 1, 2005 8:39 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:10:00 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | I say again, no other list I am on exhibits this problem, just bloody
> > | change it back the the way it used to be, right, wrong or debateable
> > | in technical terms. what is easiest and most convenient for the
> > | majority of users, and causes the least annoyances, is the "right"
> > | config
> >
> > gentoo-user is the only list where that change was causing problems.
> > None of the other lists are having problems with it. I wonder why?
> 
> April Fool's Joke? Because we user's are stupid? ;-)

Obviously.  That's why you're still posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How many times do people need to be told to not post to that address before
it sinks in?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Bradley Krumme
On Apr 1, 2005 11:59 AM, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >It's got to be an april fool's joke...
> 
> > Has to be. Why else would it use "NT" and "comercial-grade" in the same
> > paragraph?
> 
> Not really. Don't you know that
> 
> GENTOO == Gee Everyone NT's Object Oriented?
> 
> I'm not a programmer but I hear that Object Oriented programming makes
> it trivial to port anything to anything. I'm not the least bit
> surprised to hear this...
> 
> - Mark
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> 
> 

That's funny.  I saw a couple other things today, too.  I did an
'emerge -uD --newuse world' today which upgraded mplayer to
mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2.  If I hadn't been watching, I wouldn't have seen
it, but there was a message that looked like this:

!!! ERROR: media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_makarena, Line 1000, Exitcode 555-
!!! All your base are belong to us!
 * APRIL FOOLS!

so it looks like the Gentoo devs are having a good time today :D

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Covington, Chris
It's a good joke:

# wget
http://www.gentooexperimental.org/nt/distfiles/stages/stage1-latest.tar.
bz2
--12:12:35--
http://www.gentooexperimental.org/nt/distfiles/stages/stage1-latest.tar.
bz2
   => `stage1-latest.tar.bz2'
Resolving www.gentooexperimental.org... 213.131.245.105
Connecting to www.gentooexperimental.org[213.131.245.105]:80...
connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
12:12:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
Dave Nebinger wrote:
But before I begin, if something unexpected and interesting happens I
won't lose my system will I?
   

Possible, but that's why I preceded the previous message with the NOTE at
the top.  Still it would be recoverable (might need to work from the live
cd).  But again you'll have the right solid foundation to build the system
from.
 

Ok I'll try to emerge the system/world again.  I'll let you know how it 
goes.

Thanks for all the explanations.
Leo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Adi
Vineri 01 Aprilie 2005 18:03, A. R. a scris:
>   http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/

nice one

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
Mark Knecht wrote:
It's got to be an april fool's joke...
 

 

Has to be. Why else would it use "NT" and "comercial-grade" in the same
paragraph?
   


 

I understand porting as the process of adapting a piece of useful code 
so it works in a system it was not initially designed for.   OO code 
should be no easier / difficult to port then modular code.

I'm not a programmer but I hear that Object Oriented programming makes
it trivial to port anything to anything. I'm not the least bit
surprised to hear this...
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Is the part about MS buying the posix interface it true?  I can't 
believe I fell for this even if just for the 5 minutes I though about 
how useless running linux on the NT kernel would be.

Leo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!

2005-04-01 Thread Kiawud
Out of curiosity, what would happen if you modified the
'/etc/init.d/named' file and commented out the line:

provide dns

Would that prevent Gentoo from thinking the '/etc/init.d/named'
provided the 'dns' service?

Just a thought.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
> OK.
> 
> What does CHOST do?

It's the basis for the hosting architecture.  By defining it as 686 it (plus
the right CFLAGS) is supposed to optimize compiles for your platform.

> OK.  What does -pipe do?
> 

Gcc will build intermediary files to pass between the internal components
(i.e. the preprocessor, compiler, assembler).  -pipe causes gcc to instead
pass the contents via a pipe and eliminates the need to create and write a
file plus open and read on the next tool in the chain.

> You're right, didn't have nptl defined...  (non posix threads ?)

It's still posix threads, but I think the acronym is more like 'next posix
thread library' or 'new ...', but I'm not sure.

> But before I begin, if something unexpected and interesting happens I
> won't lose my system will I?

Possible, but that's why I preceded the previous message with the NOTE at
the top.  Still it would be recoverable (might need to work from the live
cd).  But again you'll have the right solid foundation to build the system
from.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 1, 2005 8:39 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:10:00 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I say again, no other list I am on exhibits this problem, just bloody
> | change it back the the way it used to be, right, wrong or debateable
> | in technical terms. what is easiest and most convenient for the
> | majority of users, and causes the least annoyances, is the "right"
> | config
> 
> gentoo-user is the only list where that change was causing problems.
> None of the other lists are having problems with it. I wonder why?

April Fool's Joke? Because we user's are stupid? ;-)

I don't like the change but I can live with it if it must be. (I know
that it doesn't have to be except for someone else in power saying
so...) Anyway, please forgive me in advance if I send two copies to
the list once in awhile. It will happen even if I pay attention.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-base/arts doesn't see qt

2005-04-01 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le vendredi 01 avril 2005 à 12:21 +0100, Stuart Howard a écrit :
> I recently removed arts and then found that mplayer no longer worked
> though I am a gnome user.

You might hve compiled mplayer with the +arts USE flag. 

After I added -arts to my use flags, emerge -vauD --newuse world
recompiled mplayer. I haven't used it since, but I don't really need it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Mark Knecht
> >It's got to be an april fool's joke...

> Has to be. Why else would it use "NT" and "comercial-grade" in the same
> paragraph?

Not really. Don't you know that 

GENTOO == Gee Everyone NT's Object Oriented?

I'm not a programmer but I hear that Object Oriented programming makes
it trivial to port anything to anything. I'm not the least bit
surprised to hear this...

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Re: [gentoo-user] "SOLVED": ALSA 1.0.9-rc2 Kernel oops

2005-04-01 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:29:06AM -0600, Paul Varner wrote:
> > Any inputs? If I didn't do anything stupid, I will go ahead a file a
> > bug on bugzilla. 
> 
> Your diagnosis is basically correct and you didn't do anything stupid.
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87385
> 
> Regards,
> Paul

Whoa! between when I searched earlier this morning, and searching now,
the search turned up 30 more results on bugzilla. 

My first instinct when things like this happen is to search bugzilla,
but bizarrely I didn't see anything related to >1.0.8 just 90 minutes
ago. 

Thanks for pointing out the bug. 

W
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RE: [gentoo-user] apache-1.3.33 with mod_perl and mod_php

2005-04-01 Thread Felipe de Jesús Molina Bravo
Why do I need mod_perl and mod_phop as static modules ? because there
are some modules that required as it. For example for mod_perl, I need
the HTML-Mason and at a paragraph in the readme file says:

"Using Mason with a mod_perl DSO may cause your Apache server to crash
silently at startup, or fail intermittently. The fix for this problem is
to install Apache/mod_perl with mod_perl compiled statically into the
Apache binary.  Packages of Apache with a static mod_perl are available
around the net."

and there are another modules with this requirement

so, I write this, because, I found a solution to my problem. And there
is how I solved it: 

#ebuild /path/of/mod_php.ebuild fetch
#ebuild /path/of/mod_perl.ebuild fetch
#ebuild /path/of/apache-1.3.33.ebuild fetch

#ebuild /path/of/mod_php.ebuild unpack
#ebuild /path/of/mod_perl.ebuild unpack
#ebuild /path/of/apache-1.3.33.ebuild unpack

Configure and compile, of course mod_php and mod_perl as static modules
for apache (read the install of mod_perl and mod_php)


#touch .configure
for each work directoy (mod_php, mod_perl and apache)
in order to tell portage that mod_php,mod_perl and apache are compiled

#ebuild apache install

#ebuild apache qmerge


and ready.

Thanks and  I like  Gentoo




El mié, 30-03-2005 a las 11:58 -0500, A. Khattri escribió:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, MOLINA BRAVO FELIPE DE JESUS wrote:
> 
> > But with this form the modules are installed as dinamic ... and  static ... 
> > how???
> 
> Why do you need static modules? There's no difference in functionality
> when using dynamic modules. I would be loathe to make mod_perl static - it
> makes the Apache binary much much bigger.
> 
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
Dave Nebinger wrote:
NOTE: Making the changes I suggest below may impact your system (especially
by changing the CHOST).  If you choose to make them be sure to "emerge
--emptytree system" at least and probably the world as well.
 

My make.conf has
CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
   

use CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
 

OK.
What does CHOST do?
 

CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer"
Clearly -mcpu=i686 is depreciated.  What -march setting is good?
   

use CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
 

OK.  What does -pipe do?
The toolchain is the critical part of any unix system; a misconfig on one of
the components can crop up in all kinds of weird and funky places at weird
and funky times.
I'm also going to guess that you do not have the nptl use flag defined in
make.conf; if you do not, add the nptl use flag as the nptl threads
currently receive more development support than the older threads.  With
your P4 they will have a better performance profile as well.

 

You're right, didn't have nptl defined...  (non posix threads ?)
Thanks. 

I'll  emerge --emptytree system and let you know what happens.
But before I begin, if something unexpected and interesting happens I 
won't lose my system will I?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread Kashani
John Lowell wrote:
 > I certainly can post ifconfig and will but the netstat -rn is a 
problem. The
command is not available to me with just the basic packages installed. This
was a fresh stage1. I'll need to reconfigure /etc/conf.d/net for dhcp
service to get the appropriate e-builld. Before I do that, have you any
other thoughts or recommendations?

Yes I've got a recommendation. Post the ifconfig already. And since you 
have the ifconfig command I'd suggest posting the netstat -rn 
immediately after it since it's part of the same package.

support root # qpkg -f /sbin/ifconfig
sys-apps/net-tools *
support root # qpkg -f /bin/netstat
sys-apps/net-tools *
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Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:10:00 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I say again, no other list I am on exhibits this problem, just bloody
| change it back the the way it used to be, right, wrong or debateable
| in technical terms. what is easiest and most convenient for the
| majority of users, and causes the least annoyances, is the "right"
| config

gentoo-user is the only list where that change was causing problems.
None of the other lists are having problems with it. I wonder why?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Ted Ozolins
Dave Nebinger wrote:
 http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/
Nah!
   

It's got to be an april fool's joke...
 

Has to be. Why else would it use "NT" and "comercial-grade" in the same 
paragraph?

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Re: [gentoo-user] used computer

2005-04-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Rod wrote:

> Have you tried looking into the company you work for?

Connected with T-Mobile


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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA 1.0.9-rc2 Kernel oops

2005-04-01 Thread Paul Varner
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:13 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:

> Last night before going to sleep, I ran an emerge update, which
> brought in 
>  alsa-header-1.0.9_rc2  
>  alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2
> to replace the respective 1.0.8 versions. 
> 
> After downgrading to the 1.0.8 versions, festival no longer causes a
> kernel oops. 
> 
> My questions:
> 
>   1) Is my diagnostic correct? or is there something else at work
>  here? (Namely, is the problem really with ALSA? I don't parse
>  kernel messages well, so I am a little worried about the
>   "Modules linked in: nvidia" line. Is it just to inform me, in
>  case anything bad happened, that "this is your system setup"? Or
>  does it actually say: nvidia culpa? 
>   2) Did I do something really stupid in emerging alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2?
>  I don't recall there being any post-alsa-emerging procedures that
>  I need to follow, especially not any that would cause a kernel 
>  oops. I am wondering if there's something like "fix-libtool.sh",
>  a command that ought to be run after updating alsa which I didn't
>  run and might cause the problem. 
> 
> Any inputs? If I didn't do anything stupid, I will go ahead a file a
> bug on bugzilla. 

Your diagnosis is basically correct and you didn't do anything stupid.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87385

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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread John Lowell

- Original Message -
From: "Kashani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!


> John Lowell wrote:
>   > Thanks for writing.
> >
> > Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both ways
with
> > no difference being made.
> >
>
> Why don't we clear this up and have you post your ifconfig and netstat -rn
>
> kashani
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>
>

Hi Kashani,

I certainly can post ifconfig and will but the netstat -rn is a problem. The
command is not available to me with just the basic packages installed. This
was a fresh stage1. I'll need to reconfigure /etc/conf.d/net for dhcp
service to get the appropriate e-builld. Before I do that, have you any
other thoughts or recommendations?

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[gentoo-user] ALSA 1.0.9-rc2 Kernel oops

2005-04-01 Thread Willie Wong
Okay, to begin, I am not quite sure if ALSA is the problem. I just
guessed that it is. 

I woke up this morning and my computer failed to greet me (festival +
xscreensaver-command). roottail shows:

:/var/log/critical/current
Apr  1 02:06:32 [kernel] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
dereference at virtual address 
Apr  1 02:06:33 [kernel]  printing eip:
Apr  1 02:06:33 [kernel] *pde = 
Apr  1 02:06:33 [kernel] Oops: 0002 [#1]
---snip---
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  printing eip:
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] *pde = 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Oops: 0002 [#7]
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  printing eip:
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] *pde = 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Oops: 0002 [#8]

And 

:/var/log/kernel/current
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  printing eip:
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] c022c462
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] *pde = 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Oops: 0002 [#8]
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] PREEMPT SMP 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Modules linked in: nvidia
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] CPU:0
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] EIP:0060:[]Tainted: P
VLI
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] EFLAGS: 00010202   (2.6.10-rc2) 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] EIP is at memcpy+0x1e/0x39
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] eax: 0010   ebx: dd6b6500   ecx: 0004
edx: 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] esi: c0aabf0c   edi:    ebp: bfffe670
esp: c0aabed8
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Process audsp (pid: 20929,
threadinfo=c0aab000 task=d1874020)
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Stack: c0aabf1c dfcf80e4 c0aabf1c c02fb9e4
 c0aabf0c 0010 dd6b6500 
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]c02fc744 dd6b6500 c0aabf0c 0050
ffea 0006   
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] 0005 0001 
 8002   
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Call Trace:
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  [] snd_timer_user_append_to_tqueue+0x40/0x49
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  [] snd_timer_user_params+0x1bc/0x229
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  [] snd_timer_user_ioctl+0x1a3/0x204
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  [] sys_ioctl+0x160/0x219
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel]  [] sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x71
Apr  1 10:21:34 [kernel] Code: fd 31 c0 c3 31 d2 b8 f2 ff ff ff c3 90
83 ec 0c 8b 44 24 18 8b 54 24 10 89 74 24 04 89 c1 89 7c 24 08 8b 74 24 14 c1 e9
02 89 d7  a5 a8 02 74 02 66 a5 a8 01 74 01 a4 89 d0 8b 74 24 04 8b 7c 

The only processes that I can think of that starts at 10:21:34 would be
stuff related to me unlocking xscreensaver, and it involves a perl
script that I wrote to monitor xscreensaver and output to festival, so
my computer would speak to me when I wake up. 

Last night before going to sleep, I ran an emerge update, which
brought in 
 alsa-header-1.0.9_rc2  
 alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2
to replace the respective 1.0.8 versions. 

After downgrading to the 1.0.8 versions, festival no longer causes a
kernel oops. 

My questions:

  1) Is my diagnostic correct? or is there something else at work
 here? (Namely, is the problem really with ALSA? I don't parse
 kernel messages well, so I am a little worried about the
  "Modules linked in: nvidia" line. Is it just to inform me, in
 case anything bad happened, that "this is your system setup"? Or
 does it actually say: nvidia culpa? 
  2) Did I do something really stupid in emerging alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2?
 I don't recall there being any post-alsa-emerging procedures that
 I need to follow, especially not any that would cause a kernel 
 oops. I am wondering if there's something like "fix-libtool.sh",
 a command that ought to be run after updating alsa which I didn't
 run and might cause the problem. 

Any inputs? If I didn't do anything stupid, I will go ahead a file a
bug on bugzilla. 

Thanks, 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11: truetype-fonts vs. type1-fonts

2005-04-01 Thread Robert G. Hays
Depends on if you need some font(s) that are only in the M$ list.
& quality depends mostly on size & capabilities of the intended output 
device...

rgh
Grant wrote:
Nope, Type1 are high quality fonts from Adobe. Truetype are fonts
introduced by M$. They are of lower quality.
Frank
   

Is it beneficial to build both of them into an xorg installation or is
that a waste?
- Grant
 

On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 13:32 -0800, Grant wrote:
   

Are the USE flags 'truetype-fonts' and 'type1-fonts' in xorg-x11 meant
to be substitutes for each other?  I'm running the xfs font server,
and I know I'm supposed to keep my installed fonts down to those I
want.
- Grant
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't complete the install!

2005-04-01 Thread Robert G. Hays
Nick,
IPv6, huh?  Hmmm  Any way to tell it v4?
Local servers -- I did that, right under the 'stage 3' banner, and 
several are known to me as v4 capable; used themseveral times.

emerge-webrsync when it finishes says to now proceed with emerge --sync.
Given that I really, really wanted to do stage-1 & lots of 
custom/performance changes soon to get the best out of my system, don't 
I still need to do this?,  Probably  with --world or something?

Thank You!,
rgh.
Nick Rout wrote:
To cut a long story short it looks like the notorious ipv6 problem -
wherein mirrorselect choses ipv6 mirrors (because ipv6 is enabled on the
boot cd) but your chroot does not use ipv6.
Find a mirror near you and put it in /etc/make.conf manually (within the
chroot), the mirror list is easy to find off the main gentoo.org page.
If that doesn't work use emerge-webrsync - once you have done that you
have enough to complete the install, you don't need to emerge --sync
after emerge-webrsync. 

On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 21:49 -0500, Robert G. Hays wrote:
 

Gentoo universal CD + packages CD, 2004.3
By-the-book, literally -- I printed it and punched it into binder !
Note that I am typing & sending this in Windows, thus some data may be 
off a *little*, since Gentoo doesn't work.

-
stage 1 install :
-
Tried mirrorselect -a & -i, both: with & without -bX
emerge --sync only finds raven, raptor, heron, hawk, crane, & cockatoo 
servers, no matter what.
First server hit in a given run gets to about app-admin/?/io.c, at which 
point it gives code 30 at line 109 & code 12 at line 189 and times out, 
follow-on servers give nothing except list-of-files.

emerge-webrsync finds one server, I forget which.  Says no md5's 
available at all, and quits.

-
stage 3 install :
-
same, even after I 'select with -o -i & -b10, picking ~12 *new* servers 
& retrying ~11 times.
(Yes I mean that 'emerge --sync' hits the same 6 servers, or rather 4 of 
them per run, ignoring the servers I selected, or, retrying 11 times, -a 
-s12, recycles through same old 6.)

emerge-webrsync finally found a server *I* told it to find, apparently 
worked, but...  emerge --sync performed per previous paragraph, except 
different files fetched, still the "io.c" errors above.

...
Rebooted to hdisk.
Still can't get anything else, except one-at-a-time, and that has trouble.
Can compile bzImage, can NOT compile modules without crash; seg-fault in 
various files, kernel panic in others.

(SuSE 9.0 on target drive for ~10 months can compile anything, far more 
in a row than required to crash Gentoo-compiles, but oldconfig-bzImage 
does not match booted kernel, thus I will NOT patch-&c.  Otherwise, SuSE 
runs fine, always, no matter what the load.)

And yes I dotted all the 'i's that I know of, in all above; 20+ years 
programming and everything else; I *do* know how to RTFM & *follow* it.

-
Hardware &c..:
-
Shuttle AN35N 400 Ultra+MCP mobo w/nVidia nForce2 chip ~6 months old. 
Never gets over ~45c.

AMD XP 2700+, never gets over 51C, and that only once -- otherwise never 
over 47c.

NO over-/under-  -clock/-voltage.
1GB Centon RAM, as 512+256+256.  www.simmtester.com for 12 hours no 
errors, repeatedly.

Maxtor 30G hda.  (Testing hd; will only fornicate with 'real' 120G when 
all works RIGHT.)

ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 video 128MB, AGP8
Sound Blaster Live Value PCI
3Com '3c59x' NIC, PCI
On-board Realtek sound & nic both turned off.
All BIOS parms set for precisely what I have.  Precisely.
-
Netgear RP114 (updated) router between nic & Westell modem to phone-co 
(bellsouth) DSL 1.5m/256k.
-
Drive-parts:
1) 512M dos
2) 200M linux boot
3) ~5.5G Win98/f32
4) (extended)
5) 1G unused limux (all-in-one)
6) 15M hidden dos
7) 15M dos
8) ~1G f32
9) ~1G f32
10) 1G swap
11) linux /, to end of drive; ~~20G.
grub in 2).
-
Partitions & router are NOT negotiable!

I NEED correct ATI drivers to get *ALL* functionality avail on video card.
I NEED Win4Lin (for W98se under linux to solve native-mode issues).
I intend other things, but these two are NOT negotiable, or else I'll 
just have to keep running Wunnerful-Hic!-Winders98SE-HIC!!.

**POSSIBLE** that the 30G hd is bad, but I doubt, rest of machine is as 
solid as a planet.

Why crashes & ignoring selected servers?
PLEASE help!
Thank you,
Robert G. Hays
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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:04:34 -0800, John Lowell wrote:

> Terribly sorry, Neil. I'll make absolutely sure next time to check with
> you first before reinstalling, I promise.

What's your problem? I only asked a question. There's no reason to get
sarcy, even less reason to do it twice.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread Kashani
John Lowell wrote:
 > Thanks for writing.
Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both ways with
no difference being made.
Why don't we clear this up and have you post your ifconfig and netstat -rn
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Re: [gentoo-user] openldap question (non-ssl => ssl)

2005-04-01 Thread Travis Osterman
> There is the file in /etc/conf.d/slapd.
> # conf.d file for the openldap-2.1 series
> #
> # To enable both the standard unciphered server and the ssl encrypted
> # one uncomment this line or set any other server starting options
> # you may desire.
> #
> # OPTS="-h 'ldaps:// ldap:// ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fslapd.sock'"

FIXED:

Thanks, I had deleted the ldap:// option at some point.  After
replacing it and restarting the service, I'm good to go.

 # nmap localhost | grep ldap
389/tcp   open  ldap
636/tcp   open  ldapssl

Thanks also for the security concerns.  It's my next order of business
after migrating user accounts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!

2005-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:45:16 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

> I see, I can remove/backup this file. The problem is I don't understand
> why the /etc/init.d/named file (more strictly, the fact, this service 
> provides 'dns') is taken into account when the service is _not_ added to
> one of runlevel scrips.

Because you have two services providing dns available. Imagine if neither
of them was in a run level bit something else was that had a dependency on
dns, which one would it start?


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Re: [gentoo-user] E-Builds for DVD Software

2005-04-01 Thread Kiawud
On Mar 31, 2005 4:22 AM, Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:
> > Hi, can you make backup copies of copy protected DVDs with dvdrip?
> > Of course, including menu and resizing to a single layer DVD, as some
> > windows programs can do?
> 
> Although I don't know the answer to that, however I did get DVDshrink to
> work well with wine
> (http://axljab.homelinux.org/DVD_to_DVD_-_DVDshrink). The ripping to ISO
> takes a while though (about 1:1 for the film with my 800MHz), however
> it's almost all automatic... and results are great, and all  extras
> (menus/audio tracks etc) are avaliable. Easy to use too. Protection can
> be removed too.
> 
> The resulting ISO is burned with growisofs to DVD.
> 
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> Ralph
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> 
I've used 'lxdvdrip' to make backup copies of various DVD's.  lxdvdrip
is basically a front end to apps such as dvdauthor, dvdbackup,
transcode, etc. ...  It will take a dual-layer DVD and shrink it to a
single-layer (or make a straight dvdbackup of a single-layer DVD).

However, I have noticed some irregularities with it.  On one DVD
player, the movie starts automatically and I can't get to the menu
unless I fast-forward to the end of the movie.  On another DVD player,
the menu comes up just fine. YMMV.

HTH,

-Hani
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11: truetype-fonts vs. type1-fonts

2005-04-01 Thread Grant
> Nope, Type1 are high quality fonts from Adobe. Truetype are fonts
> introduced by M$. They are of lower quality.
> 
> Frank

Is it beneficial to build both of them into an xorg installation or is
that a waste?

- Grant

> On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 13:32 -0800, Grant wrote:
> > Are the USE flags 'truetype-fonts' and 'type1-fonts' in xorg-x11 meant
> > to be substitutes for each other?  I'm running the xfs font server,
> > and I know I'm supposed to keep my installed fonts down to those I
> > want.
> >
> > - Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Derek Hansen
I have to admit, it had me going for just a little while...

On Apr 1, 2005 8:05 AM, Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A. R. wrote:
> 
> >  http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/
> >
> >
> >
> >Nah!
> >--
> >
> >
> >
> ditto!
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
>   http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/
> 
> Nah!

It's got to be an april fool's joke...


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RE: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
NOTE: Making the changes I suggest below may impact your system (especially
by changing the CHOST).  If you choose to make them be sure to "emerge
--emptytree system" at least and probably the world as well.

> My make.conf has
> CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"

use CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

> CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer"
> 
> Clearly -mcpu=i686 is depreciated.  What -march setting is good?
> 

use CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"

> How does -fomit-frame-pointer effect the compilations?

It removes the frame pointer from the execution stack.  As one method calls
another, a frame pointer would normally be put on the stack to assist in
debugging.  However, it uses space that is not normally needed for a
production build, which is why it is omitted.

> I don't put -O[3-6] because I read that gcc doesn't always define such
> optimizations it falls back to -O2.  Also, I don' t know if any of the
> higher optimizations are experimental or not.

Stick with -O2 as it is the safest bet.

> I've emerged glibc about 4 times already.  I remember a similar error
> occured a while ago but was fixed by a subsequent release.

The toolchain is the critical part of any unix system; a misconfig on one of
the components can crop up in all kinds of weird and funky places at weird
and funky times.

I'm also going to guess that you do not have the nptl use flag defined in
make.conf; if you do not, add the nptl use flag as the nptl threads
currently receive more development support than the older threads.  With
your P4 they will have a better performance profile as well.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread John Lowell
Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On Friday 01 April 2005 13:03, John Lowell wrote:
>> I just completed a stage1 install from the minimal 2005.0 livecd on
>> a box that will be used as a web server. I boot without incident,
>> run ifconfig and get a perfectly suitable response, can ping my
>> router successfully but, attempting to reach the web, get unknown
>> host errors.
>>
>> The setup here is almost trite: Three workstations with dynamic
>> addresses behind an ADSL router/switch which doubles as a dhcp
>> server, and the webserver mentioned earlier with a static address
>> outside the range authorized for dynamic service and with port 80
>> forwarded. I have /etc/conf.d/net with iface_eth0="192,168.1.44
>> Broadcast 192.168.0.255 NetMask 255.255.255.0" and gateway enabled
>> at 192.168.1.1. /etc/resolv.conf shows proper nameserver numbers.
>
> Your broadcast is wrong. Should be 192.168.1.255.
>
> Uwe
>
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> software developers. - Linus Torvalds
>
> http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004)

Uwe,

Thanks for writing.

Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both ways with
no difference being made.

Regards.

jlowell


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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread John Lowell
Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Friday 01 April 2005 20:03, John Lowell wrote:
>> I just completed a stage1 install from the minimal 2005.0 livecd on
>> a box that will be used as a web server. I boot without incident,
>> run ifconfig and get a perfectly suitable response, can ping my
>> router successfully but, attempting to reach the web, get unknown
>> host errors.
>>
>> The setup here is almost trite: Three workstations with dynamic
>> addresses behind an ADSL router/switch which doubles as a dhcp
>> server, and the webserver mentioned earlier with a static address
>> outside the range authorized for dynamic service and with port 80
>> forwarded. I have /etc/conf.d/net with iface_eth0="192,168.1.44
>> Broadcast 192.168.0.255 NetMask 255.255.255.0" and gateway enabled
>> at 192.168.1.1. /etc/resolv.conf shows proper nameserver numbers.
>
> Your broadcast address is wrong there. You also have a comma between
> 192 and 168. Not sure if the capitalization matters either.
>
>> I don't get it. The workstations all reach the web without
>> difficulty. But the webserver, nothing but unknown host errors. This
>> same machine was working just fine before the latest install with
>> the very same configuration. Some help please.
>
> `route -n` output on the box makes sense?
>
> Regards,
> Jason Stubbs

Hi Jason,

Thanks for the reply.

Interesting point about the 0 vs. a 1 in broadcast. I, too, thought that
changing to 1 might make a difference but it doesn't. The 0 is default for
/etc/conf.d/net, of course, and I've never understood why it's set that way
in Gentoo. The comma is a typo and the caps the result of transcribing by
hand to the mail message.

Will I have access to the route command? This is a fresh install with, so
far, only system packages.

Again, thanks for your reply.

jlowell






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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
A. R. wrote:
 http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/

Nah!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
Jason Stubbs wrote:
On Friday 01 April 2005 22:49, Leo wrote:
 

Hi.
I'm getting an error with sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1:
loadmsgcat.c: In function `_nl_init_domain_conv':
../sysdeps/i386/bits/string.h:655: error: can't find a register in class
`GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
make[2]: ***
[/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-
gnu-linuxthreads/intl/loadmsgcat.os] Error 1
   

These lines contain all the information necessary. The first error that 
occurred, what file it occurred in and what directory that file is in. The 
rest of the information will sometimes help but it is quite rare in my 
experience.

 

I define
$ARCH='~x86'
   

Are you sure you don't mean ACCEPT_KEYWORDS? You should not be touching the 
ARCH variable at all. If you are, it could quite realistically be causing 
your issue.
 

Yes!  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in fact.  oops  I didn't touch the ARCH var at all.
 

What product do I select when reporting this bug on Gentoo bugzilla?
Should I just send an email directly to the glibc maintainer?
   

You should just follow what it tells you, ie "Gentoo Linux".
Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
Dave Nebinger wrote:
I'm getting an error with sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1:
[snipped]
You should not do either of these things.  First you should fix your CFLAGS
to remove the -mcpu flag and replace with the appropriate -march value.
 

OK what do you suggest as an appropriate -mach value? 

Some time ago I started getting this warning.
Secondly, since you're using -mcpu=686 yet gcc appears to be i386 based, I
would guess that your system setup from the ground up is poorly set up.
 

I set up the system from Gentoo ver 2004.2  At the time I chose what the 
documentation recommended as reasonable defaults.  I am not familiar 
with what these flags really do for gcc.  I understand that certain 
optimizations for 686 exist that make incompatible binaries for earlier 
processors ie i586.

My make.conf has
CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
I don't know if gcc depends on any specific part of this value.  AFAIK 
it's simply a name (handle).  Maybe so you can have several versions of 
gcc around and chose which one you want to use?

If you're still in the early stages of the system build, I'd suggest
starting over with valid CFLAGS; trust me, having a solid foundation ensures
that you'll end up with a stable gentoo box when you're done.
 

Yeah I though that I might have to tweak my CFLAGS...  I was never sure 
if it was optimized or not.

Right now I use
CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer"
Clearly -mcpu=i686 is depreciated.  What -march setting is good?
How does -fomit-frame-pointer effect the compilations?
I don't put -O[3-6] because I read that gcc doesn't always define such 
optimizations it falls back to -O2.  Also, I don' t know if any of the 
higher optimizations are experimental or not. 

Anyway what do you suggest?
I have a vanilla P4 Willemite...
If the system has been operational for awhile, then I think you should count
yourself lucky, not emerge the glibc update, and keep your misconfigured box
running as it is.
 

I've emerged glibc about 4 times already.  I remember a similar error 
occured a while ago but was fixed by a subsequent release.

TNX for your attention
Leo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread John Lowell
Nick Rout wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 03:03 -0800, John Lowell wrote:
>> I just completed a stage1 install from the minimal 2005.0 livecd on a
>> box that will be used as a web server. I boot without incident, run
>> ifconfig and get a perfectly suitable response, can ping my router
>> successfully but, attempting to reach the web, get unknown host
>> errors.
>>
>> The setup here is almost trite: Three workstations with dynamic
>> addresses behind an ADSL router/switch which doubles as a dhcp
>> server, and the webserver mentioned earlier with a static address
>> outside the range authorized for dynamic service and with port 80
>> forwarded. I have /etc/conf.d/net with iface_eth0="192,168.1.44
>> Broadcast 192.168.0.255 NetMask 255.255.255.0" and gateway enabled at
>> 192.168.1.1. /etc/resolv.conf shows proper nameserver numbers.
>>
>> I don't get it. The workstations all reach the web without
>> difficulty. But the webserver, nothing but unknown host errors. This
>> same machine was working just fine before the latest install with
>> the very same configuration. Some help please.
>
> sounds like s dns problem.
>
> on the webserver what does /etc/resolv.conf say? I should include some
> nameserver lines.
>
> dhcp sets the nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf, a manula setup
> does not. I suspect thats the problem. copy the nameserver lines from
> one of the dhcp workstations.
>
> If that doesn't fix it try pinging an ip address on the net by number,
> eg ping 123.123.123.123 and let us know the results.
>
>>
>> jlowell
> --
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Hi Nick,

Thanks for the reply.

The DNS entries were, in fact, entered during installation via dhcp, which
is the way the livecd read my network. Checking /etc/resolv.conf, the
nameserver entries there are perfectly correct for this machine. Unless the
style used to enter them needs to be revised in some way, which I would
doubt, they're fine. I"d tried your suggestion of pinging by number rather
than address and it doesn't make any difference.

Again thanks for your reply.

jlowell

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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-01 Thread John Lowell
Neil,

Terribly sorry, Neil. I'll make absolutely sure next time to check with you
first before reinstalling, I promise.

jlowell

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From: "Neil Bothwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!




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[gentoo-user] Gentoo for the Windows NT Kernel

2005-04-01 Thread A. R.
  http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/




Nah!
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RE: [gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world

2005-04-01 Thread Mike Turcotte
Thanks everyone for the info!

Michael Turcotte
Information Systems
City of North Bay
200 McIntyre St. E
PO Box 360
North Bay, Ontario
P1B 8H8
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Stubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world
> 
> On Friday 01 April 2005 23:02, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> > Hello I am trying to upgrade my file server that was built a half to
> three
> > quarters of a year ago using Gentoo 2004.2 GRP. I know this is
really
> old
> > and probably insecure, but it is used mainly for file sharing
internally
> on
> > my network. Anyways, I emerge synced, which went fine, but when I
try to
> > pretend to emerge -uDvp world to see what it's going to install, I
get
> the
> > error about missing /etc/make.profile and check symlink. What does
this
> > mean and what can I do about it? Are those the emerge options I
should
> be
> > using for this?
> 
> Okay. You've hit a bug in portage, which you'll side-step, and then
have
> to
> side-step another bug in order to get you back to a supported profile.
> Assuming that you do in fact have an /etc/make.profile symlink, first
> create
> an empty make.defaults under it:
> 
> # touch /etc/make.profile/make.defaults
> 
> Then upgrade portage to the latest, which should be 2.0.51.19. You'll
get
> a
> depracation notice telling you to upgrade your profile. Ignore it. So,
> that's
> just:
> 
> # emerge portage
> 
> Once that's done, then you can follow whatever the steps shown were to
> upgrade
> your profile. After that's done, you should be back in business again.
> 
> Regards,
> Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-dev-sources being moved into gentoo-sources has occurred

2005-04-01 Thread Daniel Drake
William Kenworthy wrote:
Just did an emerge sync and see the long awaited change of
gentoo-dev-sources being moved into gentoo-sources has occurred.
However, kernel.org shows 2.6.12-rc1 is out and no ~x86 version of this
is evident.  Does the next gentoo-sources kernel get worked on in
another category (as used to happen in the distant past), or is
gentoo-sources where its at?
We do not produce -rc releases for gentoo-sources - we only provide patches on 
top of the stable kernel. If you want a (clean) -rc kernel then you want to 
look at vanilla-sources.

Note that this is no different from how gentoo-dev-sources did it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 01 April 2005 22:49, Leo wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm getting an error with sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1:
>
> loadmsgcat.c: In function `_nl_init_domain_conv':
> ../sysdeps/i386/bits/string.h:655: error: can't find a register in class
> `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
> make[2]: ***
> [/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-
>gnu-linuxthreads/intl/loadmsgcat.os] Error 1

These lines contain all the information necessary. The first error that 
occurred, what file it occurred in and what directory that file is in. The 
rest of the information will sometimes help but it is quite rare in my 
experience.

> I define
> $ARCH='~x86'

Are you sure you don't mean ACCEPT_KEYWORDS? You should not be touching the 
ARCH variable at all. If you are, it could quite realistically be causing 
your issue.

> What product do I select when reporting this bug on Gentoo bugzilla?
> Should I just send an email directly to the glibc maintainer?

You should just follow what it tells you, ie "Gentoo Linux".

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world

2005-04-01 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 01 April 2005 23:02, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> Hello I am trying to upgrade my file server that was built a half to three
> quarters of a year ago using Gentoo 2004.2 GRP. I know this is really old
> and probably insecure, but it is used mainly for file sharing internally on
> my network. Anyways, I emerge synced, which went fine, but when I try to
> pretend to emerge -uDvp world to see what it's going to install, I get the
> error about missing /etc/make.profile and check symlink. What does this
> mean and what can I do about it? Are those the emerge options I should be
> using for this?

Okay. You've hit a bug in portage, which you'll side-step, and then have to 
side-step another bug in order to get you back to a supported profile. 
Assuming that you do in fact have an /etc/make.profile symlink, first create 
an empty make.defaults under it:

# touch /etc/make.profile/make.defaults

Then upgrade portage to the latest, which should be 2.0.51.19. You'll get a 
depracation notice telling you to upgrade your profile. Ignore it. So, that's 
just:

# emerge portage

Once that's done, then you can follow whatever the steps shown were to upgrade 
your profile. After that's done, you should be back in business again.

Regards,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
> Anyways, I emerge synced, which went fine, but when I try
> to pretend to emerge -uDvp world to see what it's going to install, I get
> the error about missing /etc/make.profile and check symlink. What does
> this mean and what can I do about it? Are those the emerge options I
> should be using for this?

Possibly your /etc/make.profile is invalid, quite possibly because the
emerge --sync process removed the older profiles.  Re-create the link to a
valid profile from /usr/portage/profiles.  I've included my link for your
reference...

winux root # ls -l /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 48 Jan 28 19:45 /etc/make.profile ->
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3

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RE: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
> I'm getting an error with sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1:
> 
> #ifdef ERROR_MESS
> 
> i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc localealias.c -c -std=gnu99 -O2 -Wall -Winline
> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -mcpu=i686
> -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fPIC -g0 -O99 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -D__USE_STRING_INLINES -I../include -I.
> -I/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-
> linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl
> -I.. -I../libio
> -I/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-
> linux-gnu-linuxthreads
> -I../sysdeps/i386/elf -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread -I../sysdeps/pthread
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/i386 -I../libidn/sysdeps/unix
> -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386 -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux
> -I../sysdeps/gnu -I../sysdeps/unix/common -I../sysdeps/unix/mman
> -I../sysdeps/unix/inet -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/i386
> -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/unix/i386 -I../sysdeps/unix
> -I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/i386/fpu -I../sysdeps/i386
> -I../sysdeps/wordsize-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-96
> -I../sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64 -I../sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32
> -I../sysdeps/ieee754 -I../sysdeps/generic/elf
> -I../sysdeps/generic-nostdinc -isystem
> /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3-20050110/include -isystem
> /usr/include -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include ../include/libc-symbols.h -DPIC
> -DSHARED -D'LOCALEDIR="/usr/share/locale"'
> -D'LOCALE_ALIAS_PATH="/usr/share/locale"' -o
> /var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-
> gnu-linuxthreads/intl/localealias.os
> -MD -MP -MF
> /var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-
> gnu-linuxthreads/intl/localealias.os.dt
> -MT
> /var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-
> gnu-linuxthreads/intl/localealias.os
> `-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead.
> loadmsgcat.c: In function `_nl_init_domain_conv':
> ../sysdeps/i386/bits/string.h:655: error: can't find a register in class
> `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
> make[2]: ***
> [/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-
> linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl/loadmsgcat.os]
> Error 1
> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/glibc-2.3.4/intl'
> make[1]: *** [intl/subdir_lib] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/glibc-2.3.4'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
> !!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1 failed.
> !!! Function toolchain-glibc_src_compile, Line 237, Exitcode 2
> 
> #endif
> 
> I define
> $ARCH='~x86'
> 
> What product do I select when reporting this bug on Gentoo bugzilla?
> Should I just send an email directly to the glibc maintainer?

You should not do either of these things.  First you should fix your CFLAGS
to remove the -mcpu flag and replace with the appropriate -march value.

Secondly, since you're using -mcpu=686 yet gcc appears to be i386 based, I
would guess that your system setup from the ground up is poorly set up.

If you're still in the early stages of the system build, I'd suggest
starting over with valid CFLAGS; trust me, having a solid foundation ensures
that you'll end up with a stable gentoo box when you're done.

If the system has been operational for awhile, then I think you should count
yourself lucky, not emerge the glibc update, and keep your misconfigured box
running as it is.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world

2005-04-01 Thread Bradley Krumme
On Apr 1, 2005 9:02 AM, Mike Turcotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello I am trying to upgrade my file server that was built a half to three 
> quarters of a year ago using Gentoo 2004.2 GRP. I know this is really old and 
> probably insecure, but it is used mainly for file sharing internally on my 
> network. Anyways, I emerge synced, which went fine, but when I try to pretend 
> to emerge -uDvp world to see what it's going to install, I get the error 
> about missing /etc/make.profile and check symlink. What does this mean and 
> what can I do about it? Are those the emerge options I should be using for 
> this?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Michael Turcotte
> Information Systems
> City of North Bay
> 200 McIntyre St. E
> PO Box 360
> North Bay, Ontario
> P1B 8H8
>  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca
> 
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> 

What you need to do is check out the Gentoo upgrade guide.  The newest
profile is 2005.0.

Check out the guide at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: cron and top

2005-04-01 Thread Matthew Cline
On Apr 1, 2005 3:15 AM, Frank Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> if I remember right the ``-n 1'' means, that top should do one snapshot
> and exit. Due to my experiences, the first snapshots are "liars", thus
> this solution donesn't deliver much useable results. For machines where
> this is valuable (not desktops) I use to setup ``sar'', the System
> Activity Reporter. It is in the sysstat package.
> 
> 0.02$
> Frank

Thanks for the info. I did know about sar, I was just lazy and looking
for a quick and dirty way to monitor this system. If the "-n 1" option
to top is unreliable, then I will definately look into getting sar
going instead.


Thanks for everyone's help.


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[gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world

2005-04-01 Thread Mike Turcotte
Hello I am trying to upgrade my file server that was built a half to three 
quarters of a year ago using Gentoo 2004.2 GRP. I know this is really old and 
probably insecure, but it is used mainly for file sharing internally on my 
network. Anyways, I emerge synced, which went fine, but when I try to pretend 
to emerge -uDvp world to see what it's going to install, I get the error about 
missing /etc/make.profile and check symlink. What does this mean and what can I 
do about it? Are those the emerge options I should be using for this?

Thanks in advance

Michael Turcotte
Information Systems
City of North Bay
200 McIntyre St. E
PO Box 360
North Bay, Ontario
P1B 8H8
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca 


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[gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

2005-04-01 Thread Leo
Hi.
I'm getting an error with sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1:
#ifdef ERROR_MESS
i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc localealias.c -c -std=gnu99 -O2 -Wall -Winline 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -mcpu=i686 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fPIC -g0 -O99 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-D__USE_STRING_INLINES -I../include -I. 
-I/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl 
-I.. -I../libio 
-I/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads 
-I../sysdeps/i386/elf -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386 
-I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux 
-I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread -I../sysdeps/pthread 
-I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix 
-I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/i386 -I../libidn/sysdeps/unix 
-I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386 -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux 
-I../sysdeps/gnu -I../sysdeps/unix/common -I../sysdeps/unix/mman 
-I../sysdeps/unix/inet -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/i386 
-I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/unix/i386 -I../sysdeps/unix 
-I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/i386/fpu -I../sysdeps/i386 
-I../sysdeps/wordsize-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-96 
-I../sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64 -I../sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32 
-I../sysdeps/ieee754 -I../sysdeps/generic/elf 
-I../sysdeps/generic-nostdinc -isystem 
/usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3-20050110/include -isystem 
/usr/include -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include ../include/libc-symbols.h -DPIC 
-DSHARED -D'LOCALEDIR="/usr/share/locale"' 
-D'LOCALE_ALIAS_PATH="/usr/share/locale"' -o 
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl/localealias.os 
-MD -MP -MF 
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl/localealias.os.dt 
-MT 
/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl/localealias.os
`-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead.
loadmsgcat.c: In function `_nl_init_domain_conv':
../sysdeps/i386/bits/string.h:655: error: can't find a register in class 
`GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
make[2]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/intl/loadmsgcat.os] 
Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/glibc-2.3.4/intl'
make[1]: *** [intl/subdir_lib] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/glibc-2.3.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1 failed.
!!! Function toolchain-glibc_src_compile, Line 237, Exitcode 2
#endif
I define
$ARCH='~x86'
What product do I select when reporting this bug on Gentoo bugzilla?
Should I just send an email directly to the glibc maintainer?
Leo
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[gentoo-user] Re: Raid 1 howto

2005-04-01 Thread Remy Blank
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> To protect my home server i'm thinking to create a raid1, because this is
> the first time for me i have looked around for some howto's.
> There are quite a lot howto's(1), but its always from scratch, does anyone
> know a howto for changing a working system into a raid1 without formating
> disks?

It is a bit tricky, but works very well. I wrote a rough HOWTO in this
message:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/118475

Never got to writing a real document. Oh well...

HTH.
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Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response.

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[gentoo-user] Raid 1 howto

2005-04-01 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,
To protect my home server i'm thinking to create a raid1, because this is
the first time for me i have looked around for some howto's.
There are quite a lot howto's(1), but its always from scratch, does anyone
know a howto for changing a working system into a raid1 without formating
disks?

(1)
http://www.schwarzvogel.de/od2md.shtml
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID
and others ...


TIA
Patrick
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Re: [gentoo-user] suggestions: buying a new computer

2005-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:53:17 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote:

> > CF cards have a finite writing life - I imagine /var on a CF would
> > wear out the card pretty quickly :-)
> > 
> I am aware of the problem, but have found it hard to get concrete
> figures. That was why I was thinking of a journal cache rather then
> a standalone filesystem.

Most recent flash media has a life cycle of 100,000 writes. It sounds a
lot, but if you have atime set on a filesystem, the same bit will get hit
every time you look at a file. /var or /etc would be particularly hard on
it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling showimg

2005-04-01 Thread Nuno Alexandre Neves Raimundo
I have solve the problem by emerge again the packages that showimg depends.
Some of that package gave me the same error, so i just emerge their 
dependecys.
After 5 or 6 packages, i dont have any errors and i just emerge showimg 
without any errors.

thanks for your help.

On Thursday 31 March 2005 18:25, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> > Is there any way to see what libraries hare linked to library?
>
> ldd is your friend...
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[gentoo-user] Arts don't work

2005-04-01 Thread Nuno Alexandre Neves Raimundo
I have a problem with arts, i doesn't work!!!

In the sound system module of the control center i can't enable the sound 
system. The progress bar go to 90% and then go to 0%, over an over.

In the console, fi i execute artsd, the fowling error apears:
unix_connect: can't connect to server 
(unix:/tmp/mcop-neves/localhost-541d-424d4a13)
Segmentation fault

I have kde 3.4
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RE: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Nebinger
> I don't think 'fixing' is likely to happen as this discussion happens
> frequently. It mostly boils down to the list handling being correct but
> some clients seems to behave incorrectly.
> 
> Personally, I'd prefer if the clients handle lists properly.

As would we all.  But the truth of the matter is that for this list I'd bet
we could find at least 10 different client programs being used, and the
chances of getting them all repaired any time soon are the same as M$
open-sourcing windows xp.

More importantly, I don't think it is specifically a client issue.  I am
very careful to look at my to: and cc: values before posting; the to: always
reads gentoo-user@gentoo.org and the cc: only has a targeted individual if I
feel that there's relevant information that person needs.

That said, I still see many of my posts duplicated on the list, often with a
significant time-lapse between the dups (i.e. 30 minutes).

Sure, it's one thing to say that the mail list admins want to adhere to the
correct standards, but it's quite another to annoy so many of the
subscribers as to chase them off, defeating the purpose of having a mailing
list at all.

We've got folks generating procmail rules and all kinds of other crap just
to handle the fact that, under the current configuration, tons of dups are
now coming through.

I admire the list admins for wanting to adhere to the standards, but at this
point in time it is probably too late in the game to do so.

Please please please bring back the old mailing list config...



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