Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Ernie Schroder: > On Monday 13 October 2003 01:11 pm, A. S. Budden wrote: > > Even better! (I will RTFM at some point... maybe when I've finally > > got kde, qt, mozillafirebird etc compiled... give me a week or so!) > > > So you would advocate that a surgeon attend medical school AFTER his > first heart transplant? No, but I did read all the installation guides and so on, so I'm not THAT bad (ok, I am a bit of a sinner!). I didn't particularly need to use the more advanced features of emerge yet, I was just trying to help Stephen Liu out. There's only so much of a manual that I can take in and understand if I haven't got the ability to try the program out (as my 'puter's in the middle of chewing on kde etc). Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
Thus spake Stroller: [snip] > Distribution on DVD might make installation of binaries easier. > For what it's worth, here in the UK, this month's Linux Magazine comes with Gentoo on the disc (with instructions on how to install from CD rather than network). They do a CD version and a DVD version, the latter having an enormous number of packages. However, I don't know whether there're binaries or not -- I couldn't use the thing anyway, my laptop's snazzy firewire CDRW/DVD drive doesn't like Linux very much at the time of writing. I'm hoping I can get this working either with gentoo and my first kernel compile (no luck yet) or with kernel 2.6. We'll see... I'm digressing, aren't I... sorry, I'll shut up now. Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Andrew Gaffney: > A. S. Budden wrote: > >emerge search sc > > > >will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is > >app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and > >click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, > >including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can > >bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) > >http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml > > > >Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their > >name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try > > > >emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' > > > >or something like that. > > 'emerge search' does support searching with regular expressions. > Even better! (I will RTFM at some point... maybe when I've finally got kde, qt, mozillafirebird etc compiled... give me a week or so!) Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Stephen Liu: > Hi Al, > > Thanks for your advice. > > >>>- snip - > >>> > >>> > >>How can I know they are available on net/website > >> > >> > > > >If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with > >find, e.g. > > > >cd /usr/portage > >find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 > >find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 > > > > > # find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 > ./app-office/openoffice-bin > ./app-office/openoffice > > Then what command shall I issue to install them > > 1) emerge -k openoffice > or > 2) ./openoffice-bin I'd imagine it would be emerge -k openoffice... have a look on the online package database at the descriptions of both. Will probably give a better indication. 2) should be emerge -k openoffice-bin I think > > >Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the > >gentoo website. > > > > > How to make such a search, what command to use? Unfortunately, there isn't a web based search. You can do: emerge search As another poster suggested (I didn't know this, but then I only started using gentoo on friday!). Once you know which section it's in, you can go and have a look on the website for more details, e.g. with sc, type: emerge search sc will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' or something like that. > > >>>emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and > >>>compile > >>> > >>> > >>During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running > >> > >># emerge -k kde > >>and > >># emerge -k xfree > >> > >>Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to > >>reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time > >>was endless with screen running continuously. > >> > >> > > > >There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or > >something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm > >currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly > >fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for > >a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) > >emergenext.txt, then do > > > >emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` > > > >check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for > >the weekend. You never know, it might be done! > > > > > I tried follow; > > # emerge -p `cat mozilla` > cat: mozilla: No such file or directory. > > Whether it means mozilla not available. OR I made an incorrect example My apologies, I obviously didn't explain myself well enough. Try this and see if it makes it any clearer: echo net-www/mozilla > mylist.txt echo net-www/w3m >> mylist.txt echo kde >> mylist.txt emerge -p `cat mylist.txt` Should say that it would install a whole lot of packages! then do: emerge `cat mylist.txt` and it'll go off and do it. The advantage of this is that you can prepare a whole lot of packages that you want it to compile and then leave it for a long time, rather than having to be at the computer or going back every hour or so. Get a nice long list of everything you want and then leave your computer to build it all over the weekend or whatever. > > >>>Root installs, user runs. > >>> > >>> > >>Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation > >>find the right folder automatically. > >> > >> > > > >Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. > > > > > What command shall be used? I have all tarballs copied to > /usr/portage/packages/ALL/ emerge packagename where packagename is something like "kde" or "mozilla" or "app-office/sc" (without the quotes). Adding a -k before the package name will try and use a binary if it's available. In many ways this defies the point of gentoo though, as it's supposed to be a source based distribution (makes things run faster). Also, -k only installs binaries if they're available, otherwise it compiles from source. That's about all I can think of, if I've missed anything or said anything wrong, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will pick up on it and correct me. I think the key thing when you're installing gentoo (which hopefully I'll finish eventually!) is to be very very very very very very very patient. Hope that helps Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Stephen Liu: > >>Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. > >> > >> > > > >emerge package # download and compile > > > > > How can I know they are available on net/website If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with find, e.g. cd /usr/portage find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the gentoo website. > > >emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile > > > > > During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running > > # emerge -k kde > and > # emerge -k xfree > > Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to > reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time > was endless with screen running continuously. There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) emergenext.txt, then do emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for the weekend. You never know, it might be done! > > >Root installs, user runs. > > > > > Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation > find the right folder automatically. Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. Hope that helps, Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking & KDE
Thus spake Stroller: > Unfortunately the cost of memory for these little Vaios is quite > prohibitive - after about 45 minutes Googling I've managed to find a UK > supplier - he wants £120 for an additional 64meg (the maximum this > machine will take). It does of course depend on which Vaio you've got, but I've just upgraded my R600 from 128MB to 384MB. Bought the memory for 75 quid from www.crucial.com/uk 128MB was 35 quid for either this laptop or my old one (Z600) Just thought there might be a chance it'd be cheaper than wherever you tried. Hope that helps, Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Newbie New Install Problems
Hi there, I've just installed Gentoo on my laptop, following the install instructions from the website. However, I've got a few problems that I'm not sure what to do about (this is the first time I've done anything this complicated -- used redhat 9 before). Firstly, in my grub.conf I have vga=791 on the end of the kernel line, as I have in RH, but it doesn't seem to do anything at all. Secondly, when I log on (this doesn't happen if I log on as root), I get a long list of lines like: modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/cdwriter modprobe: Can't locate module * which is needed for /dev/scsi/* etc etc etc I can't find this in /var/log anywhere, so I can't reproduce the whole list -- at least half of it scrolls off the top of the screen before I would have a chance to type it all out. I get a similar set of messages when I log out again. Thirdly, when I boot up, as soon as the kernel starts, I get the following: kernel (hd0,2)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda6 vga=791 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x131b7d] You passed an undefined mode number. Press to see video modes available, to continue or wait 30 secs Video adapter: VESA VGA Mode:COLSxROWS: 0 0F00 80x25 .. .. 6 0F07 80x60 Enter mode number of 'scan' Finally, I get the following before the logon process. Loading module e100 Failed to load e100 [snip] * Setting system clock to hardware clock [UTC]... modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc * Configuring kernel parameters... [ ok ] [snip] * Bringing eth0 up...[ ok ] (I have done an emerge e100). The network works anyway. Can anyone suggest what I might have done wrong? I apologise for the random order of all this. Many thanks in advance, Al P.S. If it helps at all, I did a stage 1 install and the kernel configuration is included below: # # Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID16=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_LOLAT is not set # CONFIG_LOLAT_SYSCTL is not set CONFIG_M386=y # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX31 is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPPRO31 is not set # CONFIG_M68631 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII31 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM431 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK6231 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK731 is not set # CONFIG_MXP31 is not set # CONFIG_MMP31 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG is not set # CONFIG_X86_XADD is not set CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=4 CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM is not set CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y # CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK is not set # CONFIG_X86_MCE is not set CONFIG_TOSHIBA=m CONFIG_I8K=m # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set # CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_1GB=y # CONFIG_2GB is not set # CONFIG_3GB is not set # CONFIG_05GB is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set # CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set # # General setup # CONFIG_HZ=200 CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_ISA=y CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y # # PCMCIA/CardBus support # # CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set # # PCI Hotplug Support # # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_COMPAQ is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_COMPAQ_NVRAM is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y # CONFIG_SYSTRACE is not set CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND=y CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y # # ACPI Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTO
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing without CDs
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I've found the Slackware path being a 'very simple' way of getting Gentoo > installed on some of my more hardware-challenged computers. Initially I > resisted, thinking that "Gentoo should be able to do this on it's own", and > that "I don't want to learn yet another distro", but finally I gave in. ;-) > Slackware rocks for this purpose. (Not to say that it's less good in other > areas.) > > BTW, I found http://www.kerstner.org/tutorials/gentoo_floppyinstall.html to > be very helpful. (It's not an absolute step-by-step guide, but very close.) > > And yes, four empty floppies cannot be that hard to find. Look in your old > drawers. Look in some old socks in your wardrobe. (Doh!) Old diskettes tend > to lay around in the most remarkble spots in your house. Even if only some > of them works with format today, you will surely come up with enough to get > four working floppies. And then, you will clean out some old ones that > don't work any more to the dust bin. > > If you really, really, really do not have any floppies at home any more, > then you might just go out and buy a set. They are quite cheap these days. > I've managed to get it going now, using slackware's "zipslack" install that puts a 100 MB partition with a working linux on your harddrive. This made it very easy (once I'd figured out how to get the network up and running). However, not that I think it's going to stop the install from working, but I don't have a "mirrorselect" program anywhere in the stage1 system, so I don't know how I should set it up to use mirror.ac.uk rather than whatever it defaults to. Can you offer any hints? Many thanks in advance, Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installing without CDs
Hi there, I'm hoping to install Gentoo onto my laptop. It's a sony vaio PCG-R600HEP with a docking station that contains a firewire CDRW/DVDROM and a floppy drive. It's also got a network card etc. I have tried various ways of getting the installation started but have failed every time. However I boot, whichever boot options I pass to the acpi kernel, it starts booting and then fails with the message shown at the bottom. As well as every option I could think of for booting from the Gentoo CD, I've made a CD of Knoppix, but this fails as well, unable to find the CD. In the past I've managed to install Redhat 9 (not on the computer anymore -- I did a complete restart with the windows recovery disc that came with it and then shrunk the windows partition down to 3GB with partition magic), but I did that by using the boot floppy that came with it and then installing by ftp from another computer on the local network. Since Gentoo is supposed to be a network installed system anyway, is this possible? I couldn't find any bootdisk images and the only references I've seen on the web talk about using slackware to get it started. Is it necessary to use a four disk system? I don't even own four floppy disks! Is there an easier way? Many thanks for any pointers, Al Messages: Keymap selection: 40 Loading 40 keymap mount: Mounting /newroot/dev/cdroms/* on /newroot/mnt/cdrom failed: No such file or directory CD not found umount: /newroot: Device or resource busy BusyBox v0.60.5 (2003.07.21-01:15+) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. sh: can't access tty; job control turned off # -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
