Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Turn of maildir

2005-04-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Check out the gentoo web site docs under use flags.
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Harry Putnam wrote:
Bjoern Michaelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Snip
man portage shows some of the syntax for `package.use' but apparently
assumes a user will know more than I do.  For example:
There appear to be a set of default use flags with various pkgs.  In
the instant case... sendmail.
How does one learn what those are?
Just:  `equery uses sendmail', or does that show what was actually
used not just what the defaults are?
Further... if a user adds or subtracts a use flage like this:
 cat /etc/portage/sendmail.use:
 mail-mta/sendmail +mbox +mailwrapper +sasl
How will user now which other flags will be used?  Or must they also
be specified here?  None of the flags that appear when I run:
 `equery uses sendmail' are listed in:
 /etc/make.profile/make.defaults
So where do they come from?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Turn of maildir

2005-04-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
You can set use flags in /etc/make.conf if you want them to apply to 
everything otherwise check out man portage and /etc/portage/package.* 
files.

 On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Harry Putnam wrote:
Robert S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I don't know if this is relevant, but you can compile sendmail with or
without the mbox USE flag - I think that that determines whether mail
goes to maildir or not:
[...]
Appears to be very relevant ... thanks.  My use flag for mbox was
- - mbox : Adds support for mbox (/var/spool/mail) style mail spools>
So, apparently that is my problem.
I'm still just learning the emerge/portage setup so not really sure
how to redo that.  Does one have to change basic USE flag setting
somewhere or can they be set at emerge time?
If so can you show a simple example?
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Re: [gentoo-user] x-forwarding or vnc or ?

2005-04-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
You're welcome.
Each has it's pros and cons so I'd suggest looking at them and checking 
past posts for some discussions. To be honest, I've just started looking 
at this myself but got sidetracked on other issues I have to solve on my 
system.  I know Mark Knecht has been working on this - one of the threads 
he started.

As I understand it vnc is like a remote desktop (and there is an rdesktop 
that lets you get to Windows boxes) control in that you can take over a 
machine and control it remotely.  I've used it on Windows boxes before so 
I didn't have to physically go to the box.  If you want to run X apps you 
need to use X to run apps on another machine that show up on your display, 
keyboard, etc. - that's different than vnc.

 On Sun, 
3 Apr 2005, Grant wrote:

There have been some extensive discussion on this list recently so that
would be a good place to start as well as the forum archives.
Thanks Brett I did find some good stuff.  I want to be able to do
something in the style of vnc.  It sounds like I should set up
realvnc, tightvnc, or use NX.  Do these each have ups and downs I
should figure out before choosing one, or is one generally better than
another?
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Re: [gentoo-user] x-forwarding or vnc or ?

2005-04-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
There have been some extensive discussion on this list recently so that 
would be a good place to start as well as the forum archives.

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Grant wrote:
Ever since I got started with Linux I thought the whole
x-forwarding/vnc thing was really cool.  I finally have a reliable
wireless Gentoo network, and I'd love to set some of that up.  I'd
like to be able to do 2 things:
1. Start an X session that is running on that computer but is
controlled on this computer.
2. Share an X session that is running on that computer between it and
this computer.  That would mean the two people at the two computers
would see the same thing, and either of them could take control of the
inputs.
What kind of stuff should I set up to handle this?  I'd like to be
able to do #1 and #2 within the local network and over the Internet.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Keeping things clean

2005-04-02 Thread Brett Schroeder
James wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've been running Gentoo for a week or two now, all is going well, but
>I'm using up a lot of hard disk space with all these sources I've
>downloaded and uncompressed.
>  
>
Not that I'm aware of, but I've only been using Gentoo for 1 month
(FreeBSD for several years). The source files are all stored in
/usr/portage/distfiles - you could clean this folder out manually or
with a cron job.

FreeBSD has a "port" called portupgrade written in ruby that can do
exactly this kind of maintenance among other things. Wanna adapt it to
Gentoo and contribute your first ebuild to Portage :-)


>I've had a quick look in the Portage docs, but can't find anything that
>looks like a solution to this problem. So my question: is there a
>function in Portage that allows me to delete old unpacked source files
>and tarballs (e.g. emerge --[whatever]), or should I go hunt them down
>in /usr/portage... and delete them 'manually'?
>
>Thanks,
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] smartcl: probing individual drives in a 100% hardware raid array?

2005-03-30 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Adaptec RAID controllers have a built in BIOS that lets you check the 
drives but you have to boot to it.  They also have a bootable CD (RH 
based) that has a GUI for looking at the RAID card and drives.

  On Wed, 30 
Mar 2005, Mike Williams wrote:

On Wednesday 30 March 2005 18:04, fire-eyes wrote:
I'm using smartctl which lets me access S.M.A.R.T. data.
I'm also using 100% hardware raid. So the system sees each array as a
single disk, even though it's several disks.
I'd like to probe each individual disk, however right now I can only
probe an individual array.
How might I do this?
If the system can only see the array, then you can't.
Many (most?) hardware raid solutions will give you a way to monitor the health
of the array, and drives making it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Config Files Update?

2005-03-29 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Check out etc-update- man etc-update. However, do NOT blindly say yes to 
all it updates - if you do that and come here whining we won't listen 
!  This is a tool that requires you to look at what it wants to 
update and not just blindly update files like /etc/fstab.  Use it wisely 
and look at what it wants to change.  Eventually you'll realize which 
files are safe to let it go and which aren't.

 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, AJ Spagnoletti wrote:
I recently just finished a stage 2 installation of gentoo and im still trying 
to work the bugs out. I emerged KDE and at the end of the emerge it said that 
10 config files need to be updated. Is this something that has to be done 
manually or is there a command that will auto update them for me? I am still 
new to gentoo and linux so any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
This can happen on the upgrade from 4.0.6 to 4.2.x.  He should do as you 
suggest and run the merge.  If there are still problems (as I had) there 
were some packages that needed to be removed to get rid of some blocks. 
There is a bug on it for xfce4 in bugzilla.

 On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Sami 
Samhuri wrote:

* On Sun Mar-27-2005 at 12:38:41 PM -0600, Harry Putnam said:
[...]
But running:
 emerge -v -p xfce
[snip emerge output]
You currently have some packages installed from Xfce 4.2.1 and some
others from 4.0.6. No wonder there are problems! :)
I have no idea how that happened. Perhaps you have changed between arch
and ~arch recently. It doesn't really matter, if you run that emerge
command it looks as though it will install all Xfce 4.2.0 packages. Try
that out and report back...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Something didn't get installed correctly.  All I did was emerge xfce4 and 
it will list everything that needs to go in.  Also there is no .xfce4 for 
4.2 - they use a ~/.config directory.  Once it's installed you can do 
startxfce4 and see what happens.  If that works set up rc.conf.

 On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Harry Putnam 
wrote:

I'm trying to run xfce4
genlop xfce4 reports only:
* xfce-base/xfce4
But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it
doesn't show up.
On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking
for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of
tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X.
Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the
top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc.  They don't appear
in the taskbar pager.
I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No-ip.com Client

2005-03-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
No reason it shouldn't work.  Add it to /etc/init.d then try it manually 
(/etc/init.d/noip2 start).  If that works do

rc-update add noip2 yourlevel
Where yourlevel is probably default.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
I am using no-ip.com's redirection services to run my webserver on Gentoo.. I 
downloaded their client and installed it. Now I wanted it to load at startup. 
I looked at the readme and here are the instructions...



###
HOW TO START THE CLIENT
The noip2 executable can be run by typing /usr/local/bin/noip2
If you want it to run automatically when the machine is booted, then
place the following script in your startup directory. (/etc/init.d/rcX.d
or /sbin/init.d/rcX.d or ???)
###
# ! /bin/sh
# . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions  # uncomment/modify for your killproc
case "$1" in
start)
echo "Starting noip2."
/usr/local/bin/noip2
;;
stop)
echo -n "Shutting down noip2."
killproc -TERM /usr/local/bin/noip2
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop}"
exit 1
esac
exit 0
###
Where the 'X' in rcX.d is the value obtained by running the
following command
grep initdefault /etc/inittab | awk -F: '{print $2}'
Killproc can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/init
Alternatively, you can uncomment the line after #! /bin/sh


Now, if I'm not mistaken, if I add a proper script to /etc/init.d/ then I can 
add it to the default runlevel using rc-update. But, I have no knowledge of 
scripting and I'm wondering if the above script would work... Can anyone help 
me?

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Mbox vs maildir

2005-03-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
To me, if all we asked about on this list was purely gentoo related this 
would be a dead list as X, bootsplash, sound, network, editors, terminal emulators, etc. 
all have nothing to do with gentoo per se so we'd all be elsewhere.  If 
you look at it that way there isn't much left to discuss expect the stage 
1-3 installs, and the live CDs.  We'd probably better clean out most of 
the posts in the forums, too as I've been looking at some long threads on 
X and KDE (neither of which are specific Gentoo isssues but are helping me 
solve some problems ).  We'd better take down some of the sticky notes, too that don't pertain to Gentoo per 
se.

As the original poster I asked here for two reasons.  First 
and foremost I'm running Gentoo and want feedback on this issue from 
others who use Gentoo.  Theoretically, mailers, X, sound, etc. should be 
the same for all distros but they aren't so we go to the lists of the 
distro we are running.  Second, there's a lot of good knowledge on this 
list from  people who know Gentoo and other distros as well.

To me, it's not a problem.  As one poster said, I skip the ones I don't 
want but I read a lot of posts on topics I'm not interested at the moment 
in because when I'm done I've learned something about Gentoo and Linux. 
More than once, I've later encountered a problem I could fix because I 
remember a post on it so I went back to the archives and looked up the 
solution.


 On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, 
Dave 
Nebinger wrote:

I'd imagine that 100% of the people on this list interact with email,
which is a much better ratio than those that use X, setup a bootsplash,
or want sound to work. I quitely delete those threads as being of no
interest to me, but interesting and on topic for others on the list. I
expect others to give my and a significant portion of the list's
interests the same curtesy.
That's a problem that most mailing lists suffer from.  For this list, some
folks believe that if they're running a gentoo system, then the gentoo list
is the place to post questions whether they're truly related to gentoo
issues or not.
Nick is right that the mailserver thing is OT because it's not a specific
gentoo issue.  Some of the other issues you mentioned are typically more
gentoo-related than the mailserver choice thing.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Control windows from Linx

2005-03-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Try tightvnc (or realvnc).  Tight vnc is in portage.
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Khan wrote:
Hello,
I have Linux network in my small home office + one windows 98 (don't ask
why). That windows has to use it's own modem to connect to another modem
and then use some primitive software for some calculation... etc.
I would like to move that windows computer to another room and control
it from my Gentoo Linux via some sort of remote desktop for Linux and
Windows. Does that software exists?
TNX

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir

2005-03-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks for the replies all of you.  It has a little to do with Gentoo . 
As I set up my system - Gento -  I am trying to find out what is used by 
who and why so I can make some decisions on how to do it.  Mbox vs maildir 
is one of those things.

 On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 12:43 +0800, ZeeGeek wrote:
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Is there any advantage to one over the other?  What are the pros and
cons of each.
Thanks.
I think maildir is better for handling small files, and maildir stores
each mail in seperate files, while Mbox stores them in one, so if
anything bad happens to your mails, you won't lose all in maildir case.
Think of a mbox with thousands of messages totalling many Gig's. to get
to the most recent message you need to open one file and read through
those gigs, to get to the last one. All of the file has to be loaded to
memory. mbox chokes on big mail folders. maildir is more efficient in
that situation.
Anyway there are plenty of analyses of the differences between the two
and their comparative strengths and weaknesses. google will help. This
has damn all to do with gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Procmail replacement

2005-03-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, looks like getmail is to replace fetchmail - interesting links to 
many flames of the author of fetchmail on the site .  I'd have to use 
something else to process the mail

. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Jean Magnan de 
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| > Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
| > 
| > > Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail
| > > but I can't find it in the archives.  Does anyone know any alternatives
| > > to procmail.
| > 
| > When I decided to dump procmail, I switched to getmail:
| > 
| > *  net-mail/getmail
| >Latest version available: 4.2.5
| >Size of downloaded files: 120 kB
| >Homepage:http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/software/getmail-4/
| >Description: A POP3 mail retriever with reliable Maildir and mbox
| > delivery
| >License: GPL-2
| > 
| > Nicest part is that it does not require an SMTP server to be running
| > locally.
| 
| 
|  isn't getmail a replacement for fetchmail? Either you are confused, or I
|  am.

Yes, *getmail* is fetching mail, note quite a replacement of fetchmail
though, but aims at the same basic functions, while *grepmail* can do
the same as procmail, not quite a replacement either. Fetchmail and
procamil may be sometimes hard to deal with, but I believe they are the
most powerful tools in their respective categories
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Re: [gentoo-user] Procmail replacement

2005-03-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you.  I'll check it out.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote:
On Saturday 05 March 2005 09:18 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
| Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail
| but I can't find it in the archives.  Does anyone know any alternatives to
| procmail.
I use maildrop...
*  mail-filter/maildrop
 Latest version available: 1.8.0-r2
 Latest version installed: 1.8.0-r2
 Size of downloaded files: 1,966 kB
 Homepage:http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/
 Description: Mail delivery agent/filter
 License: GPL-2
 Regards,
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[gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir

2005-03-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Is there any advantage to one over the other?  What are the pros and cons 
of each.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Procmail replacement

2005-03-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.  I think that was it.  I'll check it out.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote:
On Saturday 05 March 2005 09:18 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
| Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail
| but I can't find it in the archives.  Does anyone know any alternatives to
| procmail.
I use maildrop...
*  mail-filter/maildrop
 Latest version available: 1.8.0-r2
 Latest version installed: 1.8.0-r2
 Size of downloaded files: 1,966 kB
 Homepage:http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/
 Description: Mail delivery agent/filter
 License: GPL-2
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[gentoo-user] Procmail replacement

2005-03-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail 
but I can't find it in the archives.  Does anyone know any alternatives to 
procmail.

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[gentoo-user] Partimage

2005-03-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I installed partimage on my system, set up the daemon and then tried to 
backup another system.  I am using the  0.6.4-r2 version.  Partimage is 
compiled with ssl.  On the client machine I booted with the SysRescu-CD 
and run partimagessl.  I find that as long as I set up the server 
partimaged to use -L (no login) things work fine.  However, if I do not 
use the -L option then I get errors about "incompatible networx 
connections".  Short term the -L works but I'd like to fix it. I'm using 
this command line (when it doesn't work)

partimagessl -sx.x.x.x save /dev/sda1 savedir/savefilename
/etc/conf.d/Partimaged has the options
-d /files/Images
What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multiple physical consoles

2005-03-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
From what I've seen you set up xorg.conf for two screens then in the 
Xservers file (/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers if you use xdm) you can tell it what 
screen to use.

 On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Bill Roberts wrote:
On 23:38 Fri 04 Mar , James Colannino wrote:
Sami Samhuri wrote:
snipped
or, in my case, I'm using xfce:
startxfce4 -- :1 &
you'll find that you have two X sessions for two separate users, one
on "ctrl-alt F7" and one on "ctrl-alt F8". Now the question is, how to
get each session going in a separate monitor, controlled by separate
keyboard/mouse. Haven't done the two monitor thing, I'll have to leave
that for you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] memtest results: need new ram?

2005-03-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Not really.  Kingston and Crucial are both good.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ryan Sims wrote:
Many thanks for all the replies.  Couple of clarifications/questions:
I've only got one stick in, it's a stick of PC3200 512MB, so
unfortunately, I can't just swap it with another.
Other than trying new ram, is there a way to try and figure out if
it's the mainboard or the processor?
Since I might be going the new route, are there recommendations for
memory brands?  I've been told that kingston or crucial are good,
(I'm using kingston now, tho).  Thanks again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] memtest results: need new ram?

2005-03-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
If you have that many errors I would replace the stick. Is it only on one 
stick?  If it's just one stick then swap it with one that is good and see 
what happens.

 On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ryan Sims wrote:
My computer has had some bizzare symptoms for quite some time now, and
I finally ran memtest86 from the livecd, and was wondering if anyone
could help me understand what the diagnosis is.
There were definately errors that popped up; say a page and a half of
them.  (and here's the stupid question part) does this mean I need to
drop $60 on a new PC3200 stick?  Is there an acceptable level of
error?
I've been assuming that the random crashes (usually only happens in
Windows, but *sometimes* Gentoo will develop some tics) were heat
problems or buggy software; but now I'm not so sure.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice emerge fails finding jdk

2005-03-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
From what I've seen OOo will use java.  In the windows install it was 
optional - I could skip it.  On Gentoo maybe using -java or someother flag 
will disable it.

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Did you emerge a java and then run the java config?  Check the Gentoo
site for docs on setting up the java.
 Does OO *NEED* Java?  And if so, why?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Well, it doesn't work!  If I put anything but this in Xservers it locks 
up after booting.  I put /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config back to original.

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7
If I add another line with :1 ... :1 vt8 it hangs.
What's strange is if I add the extra line and then restart X 
(ctl-alt-bspc) it works - just doesn't on boot.

Looking through info on the web and the forums I should be able to do 
this.  However, on the forums I see lines like

:0 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7
but unfortunately, most of the posts are trying to make this work on KDE 
or Gnome.  Do they use a diffrent syntax?  Nothing on the web or man pages 
indicates anything about reserve.

Any suggestions?

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Well, I got it kind of working and did so by the doing the following.  I say 
sort of because it worked fine before reboot.  I set up the files as shown 
below and could to a ctl-alt-bkspc and I had three terminals.  I played with 
this for a while and it always worked.  However, when I rebooted the system 
hung and would not respond to the keyboard or mouse and it had a blank screen 
with the framebuffer image.  It looks like it tried to start X and failed.

At this point I'm not sure how to make it work. I know Caldera 2.4 could do 
it but this just isn't working and I've exhausted all I know.  If anyone has 
any ideas I'd be greatful!
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install Seg faults

2005-02-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Because segmentation faults usually indicate memory/hardware problems.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Michael Haan wrote:
Because?  I've also tried manually installing grub.  All looks good
except just after "22 sectors are embedded" and "succedded", I get
"Segmentation fault".
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:48:32 +, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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The subject says it all: running "grub-install --root-directory=/boot
/dev/hda --recheck" gives:
/sbin/grub-install: line 448: 10316 Segmentation fault
Has anyone ever seen this?
Dunno about others, but when I see a segfault, the 1st I'll suggest
you do is memtest.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Two emerge-related questions

2005-02-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
1. Nothing wrong with using the system.  The updates don't interfere with 
the stuff you are running.  Liinux isn't like Windows in that respect. 
The only time I've gotten out of X was to upgrade from XFree86 to Xorg.

2. You're lucky.  These are updates to config files and scripts so 
generally if you don't get the updates you haven't really updated your 
system. Run etc-update and carefully pay attention to what it wants to 
change.  However, some files you should not update such as /etc/fstab and 
others.  Etc-update will let you see what changes it's going to make and 
allow you to decide.

 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Walter Dnes wrote:
 1) I notice some occasional mention of people continuing to use their
systems while emerge is running.  Intuitively, this seems like driving
your car while mechanics are working on it.  I shut down every X session
and every text console except one root session running the actual
emerge.  Is this unnecessary?  Are there any booby-traps to watch for if
I want to use my system while "emerge --ask --deep --update --world" is
running?
 2) After a while I've found the messages (at the end of the emerge
session) about config files, useless and rather annoying.  I now execute
rm `find /etc -iname '._cfg_*'`
whenever such a message shows up.  No problems... yet.  Is it a good
idea, or have I just been lucky?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Well, I got it kind of working and did so by the doing the following.  I 
say sort of because it worked fine before reboot.  I set up the files as 
shown below and could to a ctl-alt-bkspc and I had three terminals.  I 
played with this for a while and it always worked.  However, when I 
rebooted the system hung and would not respond to the keyboard or 
mouse and it had a blank screen with the framebuffer image.  It looks like 
it tried to start X and failed.

At this point I'm not sure how to make it work. I know Caldera 2.4 could 
do it but this just isn't working and I've exhausted all I know.  If 
anyone has any ideas I'd be greatful!

1.  Create symlinks to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg for X0, X1, x2.
2.  Modify /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X0 :0
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X1 :1
:2 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X2 :2
3.  I then modified /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config to create two more entries for 
each server.

! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console.
DisplayManager._0.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
DisplayManager._0.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole_0
DisplayManager._0.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole_0
! The following three resources set up display :1 as the console.
DisplayManager._1.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_1
DisplayManager._1.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole_1
DisplayManager._1.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole_1
! The following three resources set up display :2 as the console.
DisplayManager._2.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_2
DisplayManager._1.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole_2
DisplayManager._1.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole_2
4.  Copied the _x files from the main one.  For example cp TakeConsole 
TakeConsole_1

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Some more research shows multiple ways to set up the Xserver lines
Gentoo: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
Others: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7
More:   :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 :0
and again :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0
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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Some more research shows multiple ways to set up the Xserver lines
Gentoo: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
Others: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7
More:   :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 :0
and again :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0
What is correct.  Supposedly all I have to do is set them up that way. 
However, it doesn't work and I notice this in Xorg.0.log.  Perhaps a 
permissions problem - or maybe Pam involved! Any ideas.

AUDIT: Sat Feb 26 17:02:18 2005: 9224 X: client 9 rejected from local host
  Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Sat Feb 26 17:02:33 2005: 9224 X: client 9 rejected from local host
  Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Sat Feb 26 17:02:48 2005: 9224 X: client 9 rejected from local host
  Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
If I leave the :1 line uncommented and restart the machine I get the grey 
screen with no login box. I comment the line, then ctl-bkspc and I get a 
login box.

Also, my Xserver file has no space between the : and the number 0 or 1.
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can 
 login. However, if I got to another console (say vt5) and run startx I am 
 told that display 0 is in use - well of course it is!  I have 
 /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this:

: 0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
: 1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
 I've checked the bug about pam_env.conf messing up things so I commented 
 out the display and Xauth lines but still does not work.

 What is the proper way to stop and restart X when running in this mode?  I 
 tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen 
 with a cursor instead of a login box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks. anyway.  It gave me some ideas.  I'm trying to remember from years 
ago .

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Saturday 26 February 2005 18:49, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Thank you.  I will try this.  I notice you have a name after
"local" and and have the dispaly again after the /usr/bin/X.
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this:
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
I use kdm and my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
(or /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xservers) looks like this:
 xsessions from F7 to F10 #
:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]    /usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8
:2 local reserve /usr/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10
I may have given you a bum steer here Brett.  This setup is for KDE,
it allows you to start up to three other KDM sessions by selecting
"Start New Session..." from the K menu.  I guess it wouldn't work
from your xfce.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I notice that in /etc/X11/xdm there is an Xsetup_0 file which starts 
display 0 evidently.  Do I have to modify /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config to 
include startup entries for displays 1 and 2?

 On Sat, 26 Feb 
2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:

On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this:
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
I use kdm and my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
(or /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xservers) looks like this:
 xsessions from F7 to F10 #
:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8
:2 local reserve /usr/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10

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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-26 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you.  I will try this.  I notice you have a name after "local" and 
and have the dispaly again after the /usr/bin/X.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this:
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
I use kdm and my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
(or /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xservers) looks like this:
 xsessions from F7 to F10 #
:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8
:2 local reserve /usr/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10

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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-25 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Doing the startx -- :1 works.  However, I shouldn't have to do that.  On 
other distros I've set xdm up so it creates a couple of servers and if I 
do type startx it figures out where to put the display if display 0 is in 
use.

 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Ric de France wrote:
Brett,
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:44:44 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can
tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen
with a cursor instead of a login box.
I don't know if this will help, but from the new virtual terminal line, try:
$ startx -- :1 &
The & is optional. That should start up another X display. You can
then swap between them using Ctrl+Alt+Fx buttons...
HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-25 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, there should be an easier way.  I run XFCE4, not KDE.  Supposedly - 
and this has worked on other systems - if I set the XServers file up any 
new requests will go to the next available window.  Thus startx will use 
display :1 when :0 is already in use and do it automatically.  In fact on 
one system I had it start two or three xdm logins.  I think there is 
something wrong on my system because if I uncomment the :1 line all I get 
is X with no login window.

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Perral1 wrote:
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 If I leave the :1 line uncommented and restart the machine I get the grey 
 screen with no login box. I comment the line, then ctl-bkspc and I get a 
 login box.
> 
> 

'X :1' will start another X session.  However, nothing is running. No window 
manager, no xterm, etc.  In order to run programs there you have to 'export 
DISPLAY=:1.0' in the console and then ex to start kde run startkde.  I've had 
some weird results though.  There's probably a much easier way to do it, but 
I know that works.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-25 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
If I leave the :1 line uncommented and restart the machine I get the grey 
screen with no login box. I comment the line, then ctl-bkspc and I get a 
login box.

Also, my Xserver file has no space between the : and the number 0 or 1.
 On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can login. 
However, if I got to another console (say vt5) and run startx I am told that 
display 0 is in use - well of course it is!  I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers 
setup as this:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
I've checked the bug about pam_env.conf messing up things so I commented out 
the display and Xauth lines but still does not work.

What is the proper way to stop and restart X when running in this mode?  I 
tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen with a 
cursor instead of a login box.

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[gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins

2005-02-25 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can 
login.  However, if I got to another console (say vt5) and run startx I am 
told that display 0 is in use - well of course it is!  I have 
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
I've checked the bug about pam_env.conf messing up things so I commented 
out the display and Xauth lines but still does not work.

What is the proper way to stop and restart X when running in this mode?  I 
tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen 
with a cursor instead of a login box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] System is too big

2005-02-22 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Maybe all that complicated junk is if you want to put root on an LVM. 
I've only done one LVM2 so far on FC2/3 and it worked fine but I left 
/boot and /root off the LVM - it wasn't part of it.  I' have a system that 
I'm going to install Gentoo on and use LVM2 and udev so Holly's experience 
is encouraging.

 On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, 
Eric S. Johansson wrote:

Holly Bostick wrote:
 I've never used genkernel, and I had lvm2 and udev working perfectly well 
 together-- do you have the root partition on LVM or something (I didn't)?
no.

 Even so, that's related to initrd generation, which is not the exclusive 
 province of genkernel.

 I'm confused.
so am I but for an entirely different reason ;-)
so far, all the documentation I have seen speaks of creating either 
incredibly complicated large initrd images with mounting them up and copying 
in many file systems and all that crap.  The other threads says just use 
genkernel and all will be much happy goodness.

Since I'm trying to build xen on the system and have really no idea what my 
partition sizes are going to be, I really need lvm2.  at times like these, I 
remind myself that most problems with computers are self-inflicted..

so I would welcome some suggestions on what's the best way to get udev and 
lvm working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list address - who's robin?

2005-02-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Well, I think the philosophy is that List-ID exists as part of the 
standards for mail transport so a decent client would handle it.  They 
would provide the ability to filter on that field.  From what I recall 
when I went through this one purpose of the header is to allow you to 
filter without worring about changes in list addresses.  I had that happen 
some time ago when gentoo's mail address changed.   I was filtering on 
the From address and someone pointed the List-id out to me.

 On Mon, 21 Feb 
2005, A. Khattri wrote:

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:
Not necessarily... obviously there's nothing one can do about gmail, but
  I just did a test on Thunderbird, which does not "natively" give you
the List-Id header as a choice in the message filters fields.
That's not the point though is it? - users shouldn't be *have* alter their
setups to deal with this.
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Re: [gentoo-user] FireFox strange display

2005-02-20 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That seemed to have fixed it at least on that site.
Thanks.
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Have you tried clearing the cache?  This will cause it to get the
data from the site and not use what is in cache.
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[gentoo-user] FireFox strange display

2005-02-20 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I'm running Firefox 1.0 and it has started behaving strangely.  If I click 
on a link I get a page full of squares with hex codes in them.  The link 
is to a merchant page from pricegrabber.com.  I've seen 
this once before and I ended up wiping out the firefox data for my user 
and letting firefox start all over.  I hate to have to keep doing that if 
there is a better solution.  Any ideas on what this might be and how to 
fix it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] how can I recmompile everything from scratch?

2005-02-19 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Instead of redoing everything just fro two programs I'd recommend finding 
out what is wrong with them.  Do you get errors - if so what are they.

If you really want to redo it first emerge -C the telnet and postfix 
packages and then reinstall them.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Living India wrote:
Hi,
I want to recompile everything from scratch...and also want to re-initilize 
installation/config files in /etc dir...etc etc.

Can I do it? what will be the process/commands?
Prob is telnet & postfix is not working... they timeout when I do something. 
(there is NO firewall in my env)

Pls advice.
Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?

2005-02-18 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Has worked for months here.  Check out the udev tutorial on Gentoo and the 
links in the tutorial.  I'm running an all udev system.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Christoph Eckert wrote:
Hi,
a short question:
I'd like to start playing with udev, but I'd like to not mess
up my system.
Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of
my current system, or affect it in any way?
Thanks for any hint.
Best regards
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[gentoo-user] Wants to merge Openmotif

2005-02-17 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
emerge -uD world -p shows portage wants to merge openmotif.  Both qpkg and 
equery d show nothing depends on openmotif so how do I find out what is 
trying to pull in openmotif?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FireFox Search Extentions don't work

2005-02-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Not as a regular user.  As I found out I had to run firefox as root, add 
the engines.  Then they are there.  It is a permissions problem with a 
directory in /usr/lib.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Tom Van Doorsselaere 
wrote:

Klik in Firefox on the 'Add engines ...' button and choose the engine 
you want. If you then hover over the link to the engine you want, you 
see at the bottom left corner something like: 
"javascript:addEngine('wikipedia','png','Reference')".

Go to /usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/searchplugins and su to root. Then punch 
in the command: wget 
http://mycroft.mozdev.org/plugins/wikipedia.{src,png}. 'wikipedia' is 
the first argument of the addEngine and the imagefile extension is the 
second argument of the addEngine.

Restart Firefox and the added engines should be there.
Tom
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 I have firefox 1.0 installed.  When I go to the search bar and tell 
 it to install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but 
 they never show up.  Any ideas.

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Re: [gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work

2005-02-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you.  I did try the install as root yesterday, then tried firefox as 
a user and it wasn't there but it is today.  Regular extensions do work 
for me.  Sounds like firefox needs to rethink some of this.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Petter Häggholm wrote:
Collins Richey wrote:
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:55:22 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I have firefox 1.0 installed.  When I go to the search bar and 
>  tell it to
>  install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they 
>  never show
>  up.  Any ideas.
> 
> 
> 

 I've been using Firefox a long time, but I'm not sure what the 
 "search bar" is?


Installing regular extensions should work fine as a user (does for me) 
since they're stored in users' home directories; search plugins in 
particular sadly won't work off the shelf, so to speak, since only 
root has access to /usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/searchplugins, which must 
be modified. Personally, I just change the permissions of the 
directory so I can install search plugins as a user; alternatively, 
you could fire up Firefox as root (no need to startx as root!).

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Re: [gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work

2005-02-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
The search bar is at the far right on my firefox and has Google emblem 
with a space to type the search request.  If you click on the logo you get 
a drop down list where you can add engines.  It works fine in Windows - 
but they don't worry about permissions anyway .  I can add search 
engines as root but not as my user so I think it is a permissions problem. 
How to fix it I don't know as I can't see anything wrong with my 
permissions.  That's been one of the biggest problems with 
firefox.  For some reason many add-on installs don't work unless you are 
root but root can't install it for you.

Thanks.
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Collins Richey wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:55:22 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have firefox 1.0 installed.  When I go to the search bar and tell it to
install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they never show
up.  Any ideas.
I've been using Firefox a long time, but I'm not sure what the "search bar" 
is?
OTOH, I've never had much luck installing extensions from a normal
user. If I'm going to install extensions, I startx as root, then do my
extension work, then log out. Any other way, file permissions get in
the way.

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity

2005-02-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
You had the answer in the password request - nothing in the docs about 
that and I'm running it as root.  Nothing in messages.  When I run ntop it 
spits out a 
bunch of messages then stops.  No password prompt at all.  So this time I 
hit the return key when it stopped printing messages and I got the 
password prompt.  It continued on and now I can connect to it.  I'm not 
sure why I had to hit the return key to get the prompt.

Thanks.
 On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote:
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 00:34 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
How does one get access to ntop's data?  I used firefox with

ntop when first ran asks for a password, so run ntop as root first.  You
can then start it on boot up using rc-update, etc.
If you've done that and connection is still refused, the problem lies
with ntop, check out the logs (/var/log/messages, etc) for any issues.
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[gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I have firefox 1.0 installed.  When I go to the search bar and tell it to 
install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they never show 
up.  Any ideas.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hello

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Nope .  I hit the compose key while in the maillist but thinking I was 
in my mailbox.  Maybe I need to just go to bed .

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Collins Richey wrote:
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Haven't heard from you for a while.  I hope all is well with you.
All is well here, but I don't think you meant to send this to the list, or 
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[gentoo-user] Hello

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Haven't heard from you for a while.  I hope all is well with you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Did that - started ,then stopped.  Still get connection refused.
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Sunday 13 February 2005 00:49, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
How does one get access to ntop's data?  I used firefox with
http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is
refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host.
###
## #!/bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/my-ntop
sudo ntop &
sleep 10
firefox http://localhost:3000
###
##
That works for me.

Thanks.  I've got something else wrong as that doesn't work.  I
get the connection refused whether I run firefox as root or
myself.
Before you do the above, do `/etc/init.d/ntop start

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.  I've got something else wrong as that doesn't work.  I get the 
connection refused whether I run firefox as root or myself.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
How does one get access to ntop's data?  I used firefox with
http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused.
I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host.
#
#!/bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/my-ntop
sudo ntop &
sleep 10
firefox http://localhost:3000
#
That works for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
,On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
How does one get access to ntop's data?  I used firefox with http://host:3000 
and keep being told the connection is refused.  I tried hostname, ip address, 
localhost for host.

Thanks.
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote:
>  Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device?
> 
>  that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much
>  etc ?

 My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant
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Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity

2005-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
How does one get access to ntop's data?  I used firefox with 
http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused.  I tried 
hostname, ip address, localhost for host.

Thanks.
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Richard 
Robson wrote:

On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote:
Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device?
that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much
etc ?
My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant
monitoring, tcpdump/ethereal for packet capturing.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants to downgrade xfce4

2005-02-10 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Check the bug on this - I filed one.  The answer for me was that I had 
xfce4-themes-4.0.6 still installed.  An emerge -C on this fixed that.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
and as a result has a blocker.
any ideas?
emerge -pvD world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating world dependencies  .  ...done!
[blocks B ] >=xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.99.2 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.0.6)
[ebuild U ] x11-terms/root-tail-1.2-r1 [1.2] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] app-arch/cpio-2.6-r1 [2.5] +nls 437 kB
[ebuild U ] media-tv/freevo-1.5.2 [1.5.1] +X +dvd +encode -lirc -matrox 
+nls 4,076 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libpng-1.2.8 [1.2.7-r1] -debug 375 kB
[ebuild U ] dev-util/meld-0.9.4.1 [0.9.0-r1] 325 kB
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/f2c-20030320-r1 [20030320] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-1.5p [1.5m-r2] -debug +nls 228 kB
[ebuild U ] net-im/gaim-1.1.2 [1.1.1] -cjk -debug -eds -gnutls +nas +nls 
+perl -silc +spell 5,057 kB
[ebuild U ] mail-client/nail-11.20 [11.18] +ssl 260 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.01 [2.00] 1,632 kB
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[ebuild U ] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-2-r1 [2] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] dev-python/mmpython-0.4.7 [0.4.5] +dvd 120 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.10.20050112-r1 [2.6.9.20041019-r1] -atm 
-minimal 300 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r3 [1.8.5-r2] (-uclibc) 0 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-1-r1 [1] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] app-antivirus/clamav-0.82 [0.80] +crypt -debug -milter 
(-selinux) 3,482 kB
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[ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.3.4-r1 [2.3.4] +X +berkdb -bootstrap -build 
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+ldap +nls -pda +ssl -xface 2,300 kB
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-mbox +mysql +pam -postgres -sasl (-selinux) +ssl -vda 301 kB
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[ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7d-r2] -debug -emacs (-uclibc) 
2,971 kB
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[ebuild U ] sys-apps/psmisc-21.5 [21.4] +nls (-selinux) 373 kB
[ebuild  N] net-libs/courier-authlib-0.53  +berkdb +crypt -debug +gdbm 
+ldap +mysql +pam -postgres (-uclibc) 1,920 kB
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - XFCE4 Startup?

2005-02-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Check the docs and use the ~/.Desktop/Autostart directory.
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jans Han Xie wrote:
hi,
 I have recently experiented XFCE4 and I think it's really good. But
the only problem is I can't find how to setting start-up programs. For
example, I hope gdesklets can be loaded at the time when XFCE start
up. What should I do?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, it was.
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
Thanks.
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Frédéric Grosshans wrote:
Le dimanche 06 février 2005 à 12:17 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb a écrit :
Tried them and they work - but I wonder what's wrong with my system in
that it won't mount a dos floppy.  Ext2 floppy works fine.
Is your kernel compiled with the following option ?
File systems
-> Partition Types
-> Advanced partition selection
[*]   PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Bingo -.  Now to find out what I did differently on each system.
Thank you.
messages:Feb  6 11:56:55 gandalf FAT: codepage cp437 not found
messages:Feb  6 11:57:26 gandalf FAT: codepage cp437 not found
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Mariusz [iso-8859-2] Pêkala wrote:
don't you have to give a default codepage as a mount option for (v)fat,
since recently?
I'm not sure about the codepage.  There is a default set in the kernel
build.
I believe if that would be the case you might find some error messages
in syslog  about 'module cp- not found' or sth like that.
The default set of codepages in kernel config is pretty small. You may
try to enable more or all of them, rebuild kernel and then try to mount
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

2005-02-07 Thread Brett Curtis
This is my config, works well over here.

#   $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.68 2003/12/29 16:39:50 millert Exp $

# This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file.  See
# sshd_config(5) for more information.

# This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

# The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with
# OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where
# possible, but leave them commented.  Uncommented options change a
# default value.

#Port 22
Protocol 2
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
#ListenAddress ::

# HostKey for protocol version 1
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key

# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
#KeyRegenerationInterval 3600
#ServerKeyBits 768

# Logging
#obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging
SyslogFacility AUTH
LogLevel INFO

# Authentication:

LoginGraceTime 60
PermitRootLogin no
#StrictModes yes

#RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys

# rhosts authentication should not be used
RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
#IgnoreRhosts yes
# For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
#RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# similar for protocol version 2
#HostbasedAuthentication no
# Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for
# RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts no

# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
PasswordAuthentication no
PermitEmptyPasswords no

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes

# Kerberos options
#KerberosAuthentication no
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#KerberosTicketCleanup yes

#AFSTokenPassing no

# Kerberos TGT Passing only works with the AFS kaserver
#KerberosTgtPassing no

# Set this to 'yes' to enable PAM keyboard-interactive authentication
# Warning: enabling this may bypass the setting of 'PasswordAuthentication'
#PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt no

#X11Forwarding no
#X11DisplayOffset 10
#X11UseLocalhost yes
PrintMotd no
PrintLastLog no
#KeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no
#UsePrivilegeSeparation yes
#PermitUserEnvironment no
#Compression yes
UsePAM no
#MaxStartups 10
# no default banner path
#Banner /some/path
#VerifyReverseMapping no
UseDNS no
# override default of no subsystems
Subsystem   sftp/usr/lib/misc/sftp-server

# Only people in wheel or admin group can access
AllowGroups

# And of those groups, only these users can ssh
AllowUsers



On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:06:00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Already the way you suggested but it doesn't work: I can still connect by
> userid and password.
> Any other suggestion?
> Ciao
> Vittorio
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> :Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:54:53 -0500
> :From: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :Reply-To: Brett Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication
> :
> :
> :just make sure all other auth methods are set to 'no'
> :
> :UsePAM no
> :PasswordAuthentication no
> :PermitEmptyPasswords no
> :
> :and such
> :
> :
> :On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:52:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
> :> server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server
> remotely
> :> by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more
> :conventional
> :> userid & password.
> :>
> :> I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa 
> authentication
> :> working and not other options.
> :>
> :> What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?
> :>
> :> Ciao
> :> Vittorio
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh & rsa only authentication

2005-02-07 Thread Brett Curtis
just make sure all other auth methods are set to 'no'

UsePAM no
PasswordAuthentication no
PermitEmptyPasswords no

and such


On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:52:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I succeeded in setting up sshd to work with a public rsa key put on the
> server in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. And now I can access the server remotely
> by means of BOTH rsa authentication giving the passphrase AND the more 
> conventional
> userid & password.
> 
> I would like to disable the latter in order to have only the rsa 
> authentication
> working and not other options.
> 
> What options should I modify or add in ssh_config and sshd_config?
> 
> Ciao
> Vittorio
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerged world, now can't su

2005-02-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Are you still in the wheel group?
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Mike Payson wrote:
I just ran 'emerge -u world' for the first time in about three weeks, and ran 
dispatch-conf to update my config files. Now, when I try to su to root, I 
always get permission denied. I'm certain that I'm typing the password, but 
to be safe, I have reset the password twice now with no luck. The user is in 
the wheel group. I believe that  their was a PAM config file that was 
updated, but I assumed that since I hadn't changed the old one, it would be 
safe to replace it with the new one.

Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] More scripting help please...

2005-02-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
There is also an Advanced Bash tutorial on the web.   I don't have the URL 
handy but search for it.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Sunday 06 February 2005 09:12 am, "Mal Herring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
are there any good HOW-TO's about bash
scripting - i would not mind learning more about this...
All I ever needed to know about bash scripting I learned from "info bash".

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
On my system I have DOS, VFAT as part of the kernel, not modules.
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Sunday 06 February 2005 16:58, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Thanks.  I tried that and it did not work.
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Sunday 06 February 2005 01:42, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
ls -lad /mnt/floppy
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Dec 19 23:48 /mnt/floppy
# lsmod|grep vfat
vfat   10496  13
fat34720  1 vfat

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Tried them and they work - but I wonder what's wrong with my system in 
that it won't mount a dos floppy.  Ext2 floppy works fine.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Marc Redmann wrote:
Hi Brett,
I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error:
to access a dos-floppy you could alternatively use the package
"sys-fs/mtools"
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.  I may try that but I am concerned that I can not mount DOS 
floppies on this system which may indicate a problem.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Marc Redmann wrote:
Hi Brett,
I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error:
to access a dos-floppy you could alternatively use the package
"sys-fs/mtools"
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-06 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.  I tried that and it did not work.
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Sunday 06 February 2005 01:42, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0 vfat noauto,user,exec,nohide 0 0
Mine looks like this:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto sync,users,noauto,rw  
0 0
ls -lad /mnt/floppy
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Dec 19 23:48 /mnt/floppy

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I'm not sure about the codepage.  There is a default set in the kernel 
build.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 06 February 2005 03:10, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
fat asks if I mean vfat so I used vfat.  Both vfat and msdos give me the
try the types as msdos or fat and see if it makes a difference.
don't you have to give a default codepage as a mount option for (v)fat, 
since
recently?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
fat asks if I mean vfat so I used vfat.  Both vfat and msdos give me the 
same error.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 17:50 -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote:
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
   or too many mounted file systems
try the types as msdos or fat and see if it makes a difference.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Here it is
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  6 Jan 13 22:21 fd0
Thanks.
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Ted Ozolins wrote:
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error:
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
 or too many mounted file systems
 I've searched, didn't find any real answers.  I checked this system 
 against another Gentoo system that works just fine and mounts the floppy. 
 What am I doing wrong.  MSDOS and Vfat are compiled into the kernel.

 Thanks.
 /etc/fstab entry is shown below.
# 
#   Floppy
# 
 /dev/fd0/mnt/fd0vfat noauto,user,exec,nohide 0 0


does /mnt/fd0 exist?  ls /mnt and see. If not mkdir /mnt/fd0 and try again.
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[gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk

2005-02-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
   or too many mounted file systems
I've searched, didn't find any real answers.  I checked this system 
against another Gentoo system that works just fine and mounts the floppy. 
What am I doing wrong.  MSDOS and Vfat are compiled into the kernel.

Thanks.
/etc/fstab entry is shown below.
#
# Floppy
#
/dev/fd0/mnt/fd0vfat noauto,user,exec,nohide 0 0
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Re: [gentoo-user] newsgroup reader recommendations

2005-02-02 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thunderbird does newsgroups.
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Frank Lynch wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:43:38 -0800, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
   I never use newsgroups but my dad has and wants something simple to
work along side of Firefox since (apparently) the newsreader is
stripped out of that program.
   What's recommended for a non-experienced user. Mostly I just want
it to be easy for him and not too difficult for me to set up.
try http://groups.google.com certainly the easiest to setup or pan a
gnome/gtk based news reader... very easy to setup
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia with Kernel-2.6.10-r6

2005-01-30 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Rebuild the module while you are running on the kernel you want to use 
that module in.

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Captain FantastiK wrote:
HI
I tried with older version 6111 downloaderd from Nvidia, but the installer 
was unable to load kernel module `nvidia.ko`. This is most likely because the 
kernel modules was built with the wrong kernel source files...
How to fix this pleae ?
cApTaiN_FaNtAsTiK


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> >  You should definitely try the older NVidia driver, 1.0.6111.
>  I don't see that card as a barrier to the 6629 driver or the 2.6.10-r6
 You don't, but others do. It is worth the OP's trying with the older
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites

2005-01-29 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Will do .
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Ralph Slooten wrote:
Ralph Slooten wrote:
 `emerge xfce4`
Sorry, missread ;-)  morning blues I guess. Please ignore.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites

2005-01-29 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I've done that.  All themes are installed.  I'm interested in how to 
install the theme tarballs I'd download under Gentoo.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Caleb Jacobs wrote:
emrge -s xfce to search for xfce4 stuff
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:12:18 +0100, Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
`emerge xfce4`
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
How does one install these in xfce under gentoo?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites

2005-01-29 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I did that - put these extra themes are not part of portage are they?
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Ralph Slooten wrote:
`emerge xfce4`
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 How does one install these in xfce under gentoo?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites

2005-01-28 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
How does one install these in xfce under gentoo?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Valarie and Nick Schmidt wrote:
http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/963/
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:43:29 +, Joel Merrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just gone from Gnome & Ext3 -> Xfce 4.2, NPTL, Reiser4 and RAID1
Jesus!
What a difference!!!
I must say that I'm beginning to prefer Xfce to Gnome. Does anyone have
any good links to Xfce related sites?
T.I.A.
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Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4

2005-01-28 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That did the trick!  Thanks. The manual looks much improved.
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Kristian Niemi wrote:
As Xfce4-2:s friendly manual[1] explained to me, I have to add 
"/usr/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper" to be accessed by sudoers; i.e., adding 
/sbin/shutdown doesn't do it for xfce4.

So I have the following in my /etc/sudoers -file:
---
Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN = /sbin/shutdown, /usr/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper
myuser  ALL = NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN
---
Without adding the xfsm-shutdown-helper it didn't work for me either, after I 
added it: no problems.
Hope it helps.

h: Kristian
[1] Most likely found on your local system as well, but an online version is 
available at, for instance, the following location: 
http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/xfce4-session.html


Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 Nope.  I added
 myuser localhost=/sbin/shutdown using visudo.  I logged out, logged back 
 in and still no options.  Sudo is installed.

 I left the %users localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now commented as I don't 
 want all users to be able to do this.  What am I missing?

 On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Aaron Kulbe wrote:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  Hm, this is interesting.  I installed 4.2 when it became stable over 
> >  the  weekend and it has the power off or reboot grayed out.  I know 
> >  xfce4 4.2  has configure options to enable this but the ebuild doesn't 
> >  show any use  flags for it and I haven't had a chance to investigate 
> >  further.  Howe do I  get it to let me do this.  My user is a member of 
> >  the wheel group and can  do su -.
> > 
> >  Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > >  From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 06:03:14 GMT
> > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4
> > > >  xfce4 version 4.2 is now stable on x86. It has options to reboot 
> >  or halt
> > >  when you use the exit button from the panel. if you want to halt or
> > >  reboot you need to give your user password.
> > > >  On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 07:42 +, Russ Brown wrote:
> > > > >  HK wrote:
> > > > > > >  n_powell wrote:
> > > 
> > 
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>  Having just gone through this, I know how to get it done.
> 
>  You need to install sudo, and your user needs to be configured in the
>  /etc/sudoers file.  man sudoers will give you the info for this.
> 
>  In the /etc/sudoers file, there are options for shutdown that are
>  commented by default.  Uncomment them and you will have access to the
>  shutdown/reboot options from withing XFCE4.
> 
>  Aaron Kulbe
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Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4

2005-01-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Nope.  I added
myuser localhost=/sbin/shutdown using visudo.  I logged out, logged back 
in and still no options.  Sudo is installed.

I left the %users localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now commented as I don't 
want all users to be able to do this.  What am I missing?

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Aaron Kulbe wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hm, this is interesting.  I installed 4.2 when it became stable over the 
 weekend and it has the power off or reboot grayed out.  I know xfce4 4.2 
 has configure options to enable this but the ebuild doesn't show any use 
 flags for it and I haven't had a chance to investigate further.  Howe do I 
 get it to let me do this.  My user is a member of the wheel group and can 
 do su -.

 Thanks.
>  From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 06:03:14 GMT
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4
> 
>  xfce4 version 4.2 is now stable on x86. It has options to reboot or halt
>  when you use the exit button from the panel. if you want to halt or
>  reboot you need to give your user password.
> 
>  On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 07:42 +, Russ Brown wrote:
> 
> >  HK wrote:
> > 
> > >  n_powell wrote:
> 

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Having just gone through this, I know how to get it done.
You need to install sudo, and your user needs to be configured in the
/etc/sudoers file.  man sudoers will give you the info for this.
In the /etc/sudoers file, there are options for shutdown that are
commented by default.  Uncomment them and you will have access to the
shutdown/reboot options from withing XFCE4.
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Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4

2005-01-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you.  I'll try that.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Aaron Kulbe wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hm, this is interesting.  I installed 4.2 when it became stable over the 
 weekend and it has the power off or reboot grayed out.  I know xfce4 4.2 

Having just gone through this, I know how to get it done.
You need to install sudo, and your user needs to be configured in the
/etc/sudoers file.  man sudoers will give you the info for this.
In the /etc/sudoers file, there are options for shutdown that are
commented by default.  Uncomment them and you will have access to the
shutdown/reboot options from withing XFCE4.
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Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers

2005-01-24 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
It won't?  I have a TI500 and run MOH (all three) and HL in it.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Bob Sanders wrote:
Hi Tony,

The NVidia wouldn't run Half life or Medal of Honour in XP though, that's why
I bought the ATI.
Makes sense.
I hate to offer this next suggestion as it's a plain
shot in the dark, but maybe try -
  emerge -eat ati-drivers-extra
Then reboot when all is done.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4-4.2 and xfce-base-4.0.6

2005-01-24 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I filed a bug because I did what they said.  Removed the base, installed 
4.2.  Next day and emerge -uD world -p wants to downgrade a bunch of stuff 
to 4.06!  I guess I could do an emerge -C on all stuff it wants to 
downgrade but I'd like to know what broke.


 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Bill Davidson wrote:
On 16:39 Sun 23 Jan , Collins Richey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:16:19 + (UTC), heide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
unable to solve a problem with emerging xfce4, please forgive me for consulting
this kind list.
Last week an emerge -uvDa --newuse world upgraded xfce4 from xfce-4.0.6 to 4.2
and it worked fine. Now, another emerge -uvDa --newuse world gives me:
[blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce4-base (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0)


After this removal the emerge -uvDa --newuse world wanted to install
xfce4-base-4.0.6 again and the block was the same as the original one above.
Should I file a bug or is this behavior just because of me trying to do some
silly things?
My suggestion is: this is a bug. I encountered the same problem. I was
too lazy to report, so I just did emerge -C on everything in xfce-base
and xfce-extra. Then I restarted the emerge.
The developers have screwed up something, so I'm sure they would
appreciate a hint.
hmmm. I just upgraded today. I did a "emerge -C xfce4-base" beforehand and
everythin went smoothly from there.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels

2005-01-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
At this point I'd do the emerge -C whateversourcethisis, then reemerge it 
- after a sync.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, A. Khattri wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
It should.  Sounds like something is wrong with the file.  I don't
remember any { in .config.
Maybe this is something in the Makefile?
I found this:
# grep { Makefile
sed -ne "/^->/{s:^->\([^ ]*\) [\$$#]*\([^ ]*\) \(.*\):#define \1
\2 /* \3 */:; s:->::; p;}"; \
Examining the Makefile further:
define filechk_gen-asm-offsets
   (set -e; \
echo "#ifndef __ASM_OFFSETS_H__"; \
echo "#define __ASM_OFFSETS_H__"; \
echo "/*"; \
echo " * DO NOT MODIFY."; \
echo " *"; \
echo " * This file was generated by arch/$(ARCH)/Makefile"; \
echo " *"; \
echo " */"; \
echo ""; \
sed -ne "/^->/{s:^->\([^ ]*\) [\$$#]*\([^ ]*\) \(.*\):#define \1 \2 /* \3 */:; 
s:->::; p;}"; \
echo ""; \
echo "#endif" )
endef
No { in any of my kernel configs:
# grep { /boot/config-2.6.*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels

2005-01-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
It should.  Sounds like something is wrong with the file.  I don't 
remember any { in .config.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, A. Khattri wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
No.  If you have no .config file you just copy it from another kernel
directory and then run make oldconfig.  If you have one already you can
back it up if you want otherwise it won't make a difference.
This is what I thought - so copying my old config over should work:
# cd /usr/src/linux
# ls -a
./ .config.old   .tmp_vmlinux2*  Makefilee   fs/
   patches.txt
../.tmp_System.map   .versionModule.symvers  
include/  scripts/
..tmp_kallsyms1.o.cmd  .tmp_kallsyms1.S  .vmlinux.cmdREADME  init/  
   security/
..tmp_kallsyms2.o.cmd  .tmp_kallsyms1.o  COPYING REPORTING-BUGS  ipc/   
   sound/
..tmp_vmlinux1.cmd .tmp_kallsyms2.S  CREDITS System.map  
kernel/   usr/
..tmp_vmlinux2.cmd .tmp_kallsyms2.o  Documentation/  arch/   lib/   
   vmlinux*
.config.tmp_versions/MAINTAINERS crypto/ mm/
.config.cmd.tmp_vmlinux1*Makefiledrivers/net/
# cp /boot/config-2.6.9-gentoo-r1 .config
cp: overwrite `.config'? y
# make oldconfig
Missing }.
# make menuconfig
Missing }.
#
As you can see, no config targets work at all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels

2005-01-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
No.  If you have no .config file you just copy it from another kernel 
directory and then run make oldconfig.  If you have one already you can 
back it up if you want otherwise it won't make a difference.

  On Sun, 23 
Jan 2005, Francisco Ares wrote:

> AFAIK, you have to rename your old ".config" as ".config.old"
>
> Hope this helps
> Francisco
>
>
> A. Khattri wrote:
>
>> Ive had this problem for the last few 2.6 kernel releases.
>> 
>> After emerging a kernel, I copy my old config over and then try and merge
>> it before building a new kernel:
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge problem with e100

2005-01-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
On my system with  an e100 I built it as a module during the kernel build 
and then load it at startup.  Did you try that?


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Richard Foltyn wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 00:21 +0100, pat wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've setup new system and compile the kernel (2.6.10-r1) and I want to 
>> install
>> network card. I did "emerge e100" after kernel compilation, but I have
>> received error (in attachement). Did I something wrong ???
>
> Maybe you don't really need the e100 package to get your NIC running.
> The necessary module should be part of every kernel and works without
> problems. I don't even have the e100 package installed.
>
> My NIC:
> Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM)
> Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
>
> Kernel Config:
> CONFIG_E100=m
> CONFIG_E100_NAPI=y
>
> Hope this helps,
> richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo will never support vpn based on pptp. It's pity but it's fact.

2005-01-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Same here.  I use a Cisco VPN client.  It simply installs and runs.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:

> On Sunday 23 January 2005 12:06, Heinz Sporn wrote:
>> Please let me note - for the members of our list that don't share the
>
> At work, I use the Cisco VPN client (net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des) with
> Gentoo. I had a couple of configuration problems initially because the
> support people at our Web service provider didn't know a thing about
> the Linux client, so I was more or less on my own. But after reading
> some documentation and applying common sense, it Just Works[TM].
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ulimate Gentoo Box

2005-01-22 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I use -O2.  I would advise you to check the mail list for the extensive 
discussions about optimazations that has occured.  In short you can do 
what you want but if you break your system - tough luck .  Some 
optimizations can cause problems with various apps. I also have to wonder 
if some of the optimizations really do anything to make up for the trouble 
they cause.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Nick Smith wrote:

> On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 19:54 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
>> Nick Smith wrote:
 -O3 is more optimized than -O2, but those optimizations usually make the

>>
> so in your guys experience/opinion what would you use?
>
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[gentoo-user] ATI RAge XL

2005-01-19 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I have one system with an onboard ATI Rage XL.  Is it even  possible to 
get opengl working with this card?  I've looked at the Gentoo hardware 3d 
docs and the ati-gatos but they don't explicitly mention this card.  I've 
been using Nvidia so I'm not really sure what is what in the ATI line.

Thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm problem

2005-01-19 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
If you've merged with portage and then added RPM the RPM program will not 
know what's in portage so it will think you have nothing.  RPM has it's 
own database which at this point is empty.  The only way to fill it is to 
use RPM to install stuff.  But why do you want RPM when you have portage?



On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:

> Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
>> However, last night I emerged rpm and tried to use it. I get weird stuff
>> about things I know are on the system and in the path rpm SHOULD be able
>> to see being needed--for instance:
>> /bin/sh is needed ...
>
> Doesn't RPM use it's own package database, sort of like portage?  If you
> haven't installed everything with RPM, wouldn't the database be empty?
> Perhaps find a way to build that database or else use --force.
>
> You might consider posting to a Red Hat/Fedora list.  They typically know
> the ins and outs of RPM.
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2004.3 install failure during stage2->stage3, while installing gettext

2005-01-15 Thread Brett Curtis
did you figure this out I also have this problem.. I would love to
finish my install ;)


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:18:10 +, Jim Hatfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just started setting up a new machine to replace an old PIII.
> 
> I booted off the minimal LiveCD and started with a stage 1 tarball.
> I checked the md5sum before untarring it so I am sure it's OK.
> 
> I edited etc/make.conf to set CPUTYPE to have -march=pentium4 and
> -pipe.
> 
> I set USE to "dvd alsa cdr". I did the locale stuff in code
> listing 10 in section 6.a of the install guide.
> 
> I did the optional "bootstrap.sh -f" in code listing 13 of 6.c.
> When I then did just bootstrap.sh it said that that it had already
> been done and did I want to do it again. When I confirmed it came
> back with "nothing to do", taking no time, contrary to the manual
> which suggests this should take some time.
> 
> When I then ran "emerge system" it failed quite early on. These
> were the final few lines (copied by hand):
> 
> >checking how to run the C++ preprocessor .. /lib/cpp
> >configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
> >see config.log for more details
> >configure: error: /bin/sh ./configure failed for autoconf-lib-link
> >
> >!!!ERROR sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1-r2 failed
> 
> I couldn't find a config.log in any obvious place.
> 
> What to do now?
> 
> Unless anyone has any ideas I will repeat the install, leaving out the
> "bootstrap.sh -f" stage, in case that had anything to do with it.
> 
> A couple of other funnies: mirrorselect failed with (I think) a python
> error, dumping binary all over the screen. Also I had previously
> fetched the stage tarball to another machine, intending to pull it
> across via ftp, but the livecd doesn't seem to have an ftp client.
> links2 is nasty, it displays the contents of the tarball on screen
> (even though it saves OK, it's ugly).
> 
> jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3D desktop / workplace switcher

2005-01-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Did you do anything special with the conf files?

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 22:21 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Jan Callewaert wrote:
>> Has anyone used 3ddesktop with xfce4?  If so what were the results?
>
> as a result of this thread i did so and it works :-)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> * Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-12 22:49:16 +1100]:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gentoo users,
>>>>
>>>> I usually use the Gnome desktop and the way I change workspaces /
>>>> desktops / workplaces is by clicking on the different squares on the
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>>> That's 3ddesktop: emerge 3ddesktop
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3D desktop / workplace switcher

2005-01-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you. I am going to try it.

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 22:21 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Jan Callewaert wrote:
>> Has anyone used 3ddesktop with xfce4?  If so what were the results?
>
> as a result of this thread i did so and it works :-)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> * Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-12 22:49:16 +1100]:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gentoo users,
>>>>
>>>> I usually use the Gnome desktop and the way I change workspaces /
>>>> desktops / workplaces is by clicking on the different squares on the
>>>>
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>>>
>>> That's 3ddesktop: emerge 3ddesktop
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] mail client

2005-01-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
It's whatever you prefer .  I use Pine and like it.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Maarten wrote:

> On Friday 14 January 2005 02:57, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
>> Pine is a good one.
>
> Huh ?
> Wasn't Pine [Pine Is Not Elm] renamed a while ago to Ping [Pine Is Not Good] ?
>
> Joking aside, I think mutt is a better client in many respects, but pine can
> do the job, if the circumstances are favourable to pine that is...
>
> Maarten
>
>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, John Dangler wrote:
>>> Can someone recommend a mail client I can load for commandline access?
>>> I'm having some problems with a baseline backup and don't want to load
>>> the X environment until I get this baseline backed up.  Thanks.  Any
>>> input is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] mail client

2005-01-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Pine is a good one.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, John Dangler wrote:

> Can someone recommend a mail client I can load for commandline access?  I'm
> having some problems with a baseline backup and don't want to load the X
> environment until I get this baseline backed up.  Thanks.  Any input is
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3D desktop / workplace switcher

2005-01-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Jan Callewaert wrote:
Has anyone used 3ddesktop with xfce4?  If so what were the results?


> * Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-12 22:49:16 +1100]:
>
>> Hi Gentoo users,
>>
>> I usually use the Gnome desktop and the way I change workspaces /
>> desktops / workplaces is by clicking on the different squares on the
>>
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>
> That's 3ddesktop: emerge 3ddesktop
>
> Jan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?

2005-01-09 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
emerge ntp - the man ntp.


On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, myang wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there any package in the portage which can automatically connect to 
> certain server,
> get the exact time and automatically adjust the time of my machine? It
> seems my machine always behind the current time. Thanks!
>
> MF
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem / cups

2005-01-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Nope, didn't work.  Maybe tomorrow there will be an updated ebuild.

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

> There is a bug on this - the ebuild has a bad SRC_URI.  I just did another
> sync and the cups ebuild shows up as being downloaded.  As soon as portage
> stops udating it's cache I'll see if that fixes the problem.
>
>  On Fri, 7 Jan
> 2005, Joseph wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is the case.
>> What puzzled me is that I couldn't find new ebuild even on Gentoo
>> server; it appeared maybe two hours after I rsync.
>>
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem / cups

2005-01-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
There is a bug on this - the ebuild has a bad SRC_URI.  I just did another 
sync and the cups ebuild shows up as being downloaded.  As soon as portage 
stops udating it's cache I'll see if that fixes the problem.

  On Fri, 7 Jan 
2005, Joseph wrote:

> Yes, this is the case.
> What puzzled me is that I couldn't find new ebuild even on Gentoo
> server; it appeared maybe two hours after I rsync.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem / cups

2005-01-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Maybe the package hasn't made it to the mirrors yet.  The ebuild can exist 
but not the packages.  Try again later.

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Joseph wrote:

> When I try to "emerge -uDav world" it is trying to upgrade cups to newer
> version that doesn't exist!
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23 [1.1.23_rc1]
>
> When I try to compile it I get:
> !!! Couldn't download cups-1.1.23-source.tar.bz2. Aborting.
>
> But checking the latest ebuilds the most current version is 1.1.23_rc1
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up 2.6 system from scratch

2004-02-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Devfs will keep the old names.  My /etc/devfsd.conf file has a setting 
that tells it to keep old names and it was on by default.

Kathy Wills wrote:
Collins Richey wrote:

Cool.  Does it do anything for you that devfs doesn't?

 

I haven't noticed any difference other that it doesn't change (on my 
system anyway) a lot of the names of devices like devfs did. If I want 
for example /dev/hda3, I don't have to go looking for it under 
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3. I just look for /dev/hda3. It 
makes it a lot easier for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] where to define shell aliases?

2004-02-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I put my aliases, environment variables, etc. in /etc/bash.rc and I 
modified /etc/skel/.bash_profile to source this file.  Thus users get 
whatever is in /etc/bash.rc.

Sven Köhler wrote:
hi,

till now i still write my aliases to /etc/portage, but shouldn't there 
be a better way?

i remember a distro where /etc/portage included some file like 
/etc/aliases which containes the common aliases like
  alias ls=ls --color
or such stuff.

so what do you think?
should this be improved?
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