Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-26 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 02:46, Christopher Fisk wrote:
> bandwidth.  Figure if you trim 10k worth of a message off it doesn't sound 
> like much, but you get a mailing list with 1000 members, you have saved 
> the mailing list provider 10MB worth of transfer for that one message.

"Won't somebody think of the dialup modem users"? :)

> --
> BOFH Excuse #191:
> Just type 'mv * /dev/null'.

Hehe, 'rm -rf * ~' .. oops .. :)

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo/m68k

2003-06-26 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:42, Jonathan Morton wrote:
> FWIW, I have access to a couple of old Macs with the 68LC040 in them, 
> but it might be hard to get them in a working state (from a hardware 
> perspective, those machines have been *abused*, and they are also very 
> short of RAM and disk space).  I also have a full 68040 and a 
> 68030/68881 combo, which work properly, though the latter is also 
> exceedingly short of RAM and disk.

Hmm.. wonder how hard it would be to get Gentoo running on an Amiga with
a 68060?

Ponders...

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-26 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 00:18, Owen Gunden wrote:
> Is this reply any harder to read than yours was?  For short messages,

Of course not.

> bottom posting still makes at least as much sense as top posting.

Yep, 100% agree.

It's all up to personal preference..

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-24 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 12:01, Marshal Newrock wrote:
> The discussion of top vs bottom posting also usually doesn't mention
> interspersed, which is frequently the most appropriate.  If you ask 10
> questions, I will usually answer each one in turn, rather than all at the
> top or bottom of the email (deleting those I can't answer).  If you do
> this, the last line of the email should still be yours.  Don't continue to
> quote stuff after you're done replying.  That's just noise, and readers
> will wonder if they've missed something.

Pity a mail/newsreader couldn't be configured to automagically put your
signature at the end of where you've finished typing, then remove any
excess text at the end. (hmm, ponders new project for the weekend).

> One other thing, when replying, keep the reply indicator simple, such as a
> good ole '>'.  A five character reply indicator is quite excessive.

And don't keep too many levels of quotes in an email when you're doing a
reply - nothing gets more confusing then seeing '> > > > Me too' :)

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-24 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

Depends if you're writing a reply like this one I guess :) For such a
short reply, it's fairly plain to see where my email ends, and where the
original text starts, even with fancy quote highlighting and such.

Like everything else, there is a time and place for both styles.

James

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 11:44, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
> Top posted content can be disorientating and difficult to understand as 
> the author rarely takes the time to include the relevant portions of the 
> original message.  So essentially bottom posting ensures that the author 
> formulates the message in good form to save the reader some valuable time.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-24 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

Not so much etiquette, more 'mob-rules'. I prefer top-posting since it
means I can see, at a glance, everything some one has written. Don't
need to search through a mail to find what someone wants to say.

If I get kill-filed because of how I write, instead of what I write,
then I'll chuckle :)

James

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 11:19, Peter McCracken wrote:
> And perhaps someone could answer why bottom-posting is better, anyway? 
> I'll obey it, if that's etiquette.  But I would have thought top posts
> were easier to read.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-24 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 10:18, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
> Threading the messages is a good idea since it alleviates information 
> overload.  However, what good threaded email clients are there?  So far 
> I am using mozilla mail 1.4_rc2 which is the only competent and fast 
> threaded email client I have found with good IMAP support.  What do you use?

Evolution. Although the IMAP support is a bit .. strange .. but working
:)

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] gedit 2.2.2

2003-06-21 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 20:10, Janne Johansson wrote:
> there was discussion about a similar situation earlier, and Jonathan
> Chocron said the following:
> **
> OK, you must wonder where it comes from : simply enough, from the
> stage3 installs which uses a i586 optimized bootstrap for
> compatibility issues. You can see that in your /usr directory, you
> should see a directory named : i586-pc-linux-gnu.

Ah, however (:>) there is no i586-* directory in /usr :/ only an i686-*
directory.

> I personally didn't want to bootstrap, since I had just gotten my server
> up and running. What i did was, I made a symlink from i586-pc-linux-gnu
> to i686-pc-linux-gnu. seems to work fine for the time being, but might
> blow up in my face later. Well serves me right I suppose.

I tried the symlink, but it still fails with the same error - it is
looking for a 3.2.2 directory, instead of a 3.2.3 one. And I'm not
*that* brave to try and add more symlinks :)

Thanks anyway

James


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[gentoo-user] gedit 2.2.2

2003-06-20 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

Has anyone tried building this? When I try, the compile fails after
about half a dozen files complaining that:

grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la: No such
file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la'
is not a valid libtool archive

Problem I see is that I'm using gcc-3.3, and it's built for i686, hence,
no /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586* directory.

libtool reports all of the correct settings for my setup, and when the
configure script runs for gedit, it finds all of the correct files.

So.. any ideas?

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffering on bootup - Want to see the cow?

2003-06-19 Thread James McArthur
Hi,

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 10:55, Peter Stewart wrote:
> I've been trying to get the console to display Tux on the boot console. 
> I've enabled frame buffering in the kernel, and asked it to display the 
> cow (cant remember his name :-(   ), but nothing is happening.
> 
> Can you please advise how to get this working, not really earth 
> shattering, but would be nice to have.

You need to add 'vga=' (where mode is the screenmode you want) to
your kernel line in grub.conf

ie,

kernel=(hd0,1)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda5 vga=791

Now, if only I could remember where I saw where I got 791 from :)

James


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