Re: [gentoo-user] IceWm config program
Hi, On 23 Aug 2003 04:51:05 +1000 drewbian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 13:32, Jonathan Kelly wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I was looking to install the gui IceWm configur programs icecc and > > icewm-tools. It seems to be missing "icepref" but that seems to have > > disappeared. The only thing I can find is icepref2, but there is no > > ebuild. Any IceWm users, am I missing something, or is this a new > > development? > > > > cheers, > > Jonathan. > > > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > > > Hi, > I'm pretty sure that this package should do what you want > > x11-misc/icewm-tools > Latest version available: 2.4.1 > Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] > Size of downloaded files: 0 kB > Homepage:http://icecc.sourceforge.net/ > Description: Convenience package for IceWM control center and > tools > No, the point I was making is that icewm-tool doesn't include icepref. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] IceWm config program
Hi there, I was looking to install the gui IceWm configur programs icecc and icewm-tools. It seems to be missing "icepref" but that seems to have disappeared. The only thing I can find is icepref2, but there is no ebuild. Any IceWm users, am I missing something, or is this a new development? cheers, Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Control X mouse events?
Hey, On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:24:55 +0200 Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan Kelly wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > can someone tell me how to tell an X window manager not to process a > > particular input? I have an app that uses ALT-right mouse button for a > > major functionality, but it seems to be globally defined to resize a > > window. > > > > I was using Icewm, but cant see how to do it in there. I'm currently > > looking at Sawfish, as that seems very configurable, but I can't > > believe how much documentation there ISNT for Sawfish. I was told it > > is possible to do this with Sawfish. > > > > Failing that, anyone know of a Window Manager that this is possible > > in. I'd switch to just about anything at this point. > > > > cheers. > > Jonathan. > > > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > Have a look at openbox or blackbox ( they have no keybinding without > epist or bbkeys) or enlightenment (very configurable) with e16keyedit > and e16menuedit. > Kenneth > No, if I run openbox without epist, ALT-R-Mouse-Button still does window resize. Either it's hard coded or it's configured *somewhere*. I know I can't find it. Thanks anyway. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Control X mouse events?
Hi there, can someone tell me how to tell an X window manager not to process a particular input? I have an app that uses ALT-right mouse button for a major functionality, but it seems to be globally defined to resize a window. I was using Icewm, but cant see how to do it in there. I'm currently looking at Sawfish, as that seems very configurable, but I can't believe how much documentation there ISNT for Sawfish. I was told it is possible to do this with Sawfish. Failing that, anyone know of a Window Manager that this is possible in. I'd switch to just about anything at this point. cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?
Ok, I made a mistake. cheers Jonathan. if you don't understand the context of this message, get a thread-capable mail reader (or just ignore it). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:49 +0200 "Christian Aust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dhruba Bandopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 30 Jul 2003 > 16:14:29 +0100: > > > In /etc/portage/package.unmask I have added: > > > > >=sys-devel/gcc-3.3 > > > > However, gcc 3.3 is still masked. How to unmask it? > > *sigh* masking really seems to be an all-time-classic: Please see bug > #25041, from where > I've quoted this: > > package.unmask only works for packages masked in > /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, not for ~arch masking. Actually, I think you've got this the wrong way around. I'm pretty sure from my testing it only unmasks ~x86 masking. I can't get gcc-3.3 to unmask using /etc/portage/package.mask and it's masked in /etc/make.profile/packages. I *CAN* unmask gimp-1.3.17 using /etc/portage/package.mask and it ISN'T masked in /etc/make.profile/packages. Cheers. Jonathan. > > I'd really like to see the portage guys fix this odd behaviour. Best > regards, > > - Christian > > -- > > Christian Aust > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > icq: 84500990 - Yahoo!: datenimperator - MSN: datenimperator > PGP: A073 F9CD 2F23 25D2 EB95 E7A3 B9B4 2AF3 E103 DB5A > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86
Hey Spider, On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:07:58 +0200 Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin quote > > > So is "stable" what the gentoo devs consider stable, or what the > > software package developers consider stable? > > This is decided on a case-to-case basis, And the goal of the developers > is to provide as smooth updates as possible with as little disruption as > possible. > > > I point to > > gimp-print-4.3.18 which is a development version (4.2.something is the > > current stable) . > > However, since all packages do this a bit differently it is a floating > thing. (xcdroast only has alpha and beta release, where the alpha is > more stable and 2 years younger than the last beta, and is the only one > thats actually compatible-. So, Alpha is stable? ;) > Yeah, of course. But I have to make a judgement about whether to do what "emerge -pu world" is telling me. gimp-print is not xcdroast and has an active "stable" and "development" release versions. When I go and have a look at the 4.3.18 page it clearly states "this is unstable, buyer beware!" cheers, Jono. > > > I know this isn't really a critical thing in this > > instance (though I wouldn't like my printing to stop working), it's > > just I'm starting to try and take back control of what goes onto my > > systems. I think "gentoo is great" (tm) but it's a bit of a moving > > target and becomes "Ahem, not so great" (tm) when something breaks and > > I spend a day (or more) trying to find out what broke. > > This is what we try to get around and avoid. In cases where breakage > "has to happen" we try to work around it anyhow (gcc-config, multiple > LIB, Block, revdep-rebuild ) and where that isn't possible we have to > "fall back" to educating users into reading documentation (ever noticed > that some packages tell you things about themselves? ) > > > //Spider > > > -- > begin .signature > This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! > See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. > end > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:02:15 +0200 Ming-Che Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi! > > On Wednesday, 30. July 2003 13:08 William Kenworthy wrote: > > > I am using ver 3, and on the initial failure, the same vmware > > install had been working fine for months. It was sometime during > > the recent flood of upgrades that this occurred. > > Have you recently upgraded to glibc-2.3.2-r1? Downgrade it to > glibc-2.3.1-r4 should make vmware working again. But be careful if > you have/want to downgrade python as well - it might break emerge. The universe is a strange place ... yesterday I tried to downgrade my glibc and totally borked portage. I guess you have to recompile python STRAIGHT after compiling glibc, though that is only a guess ... and what other programs does it break?? Anyway, I just finished rebuilding from a stage1 tarball and this is about the first thing I read in my email! If only today was yesterday! cheers, Jonathan. > > Best regards, > > Ming-Che > > - -- > Kmail 1.5.2, Gentoo 1.4 r3, ICQ: 126097979 > Registered Linux User #241507 at http://counter.li.org > > GPG KEYID: 0x5EBF1692 > Fingerprint: DB76 8D6F 9B7D B123 0FE2 0F18 389C A8BD 5EBF 1692 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/J7PMOJyovV6/FpIRAtiVAKDGw4ks8GLZbWy9Yz8yQP/jKoyqHACeITuh > JH6XwicjppqIUrXxnae6CAk= > =PSBJ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nailing a particular version locally
Hi Marius, On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:16:32 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/30/03 Jonathan Kelly wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering, is there a way of nailing particular versions on my > > system(s), sort of like a local /etc/make.profile/packages, that won't > > get overwritten everytime I "emerge sync" ... I was guessing I could > > just copy/usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4 somewhere and point > > /etc/make.profile at that, but then I'd have to update that manually. > > I guess I'm hoping there's some sort of overlay feature in portage for > > the_contents_ packages file. > > Not that, but you can mask versions in /etc/portage/package.mask, that > is the equivalent to /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask. Well, I guess that was exactly what I was looking for. Hmm, just thought ... what if the version I peg my system to is not considered significant, and is deleted from the portage tree? cheers Jonathan. > > Marius > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86
Hi Spider, On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:52:15 +0200 Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin quote > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:25:30 +1000 > Jonathan Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > just wanted to clarify my understanding of x86 and ~x86. I sort of > > assumed x86 mean stable and I assumed that meant that the "software" > > was stable, or does it just refer the fact that the ebuild is stable > > and working and won't break your system, but all bets are off as to > > whether the software is actually stable. > > Consider it like this, ~x86 isn't -unstable- its -testing-. It's not > the place where we stuff your latest alpha release software, this > "really nifty" (tm) 3 version alpha that is certified as a "Really Cool > Thing" for the future. It's where we put "stable" software with > untested (in major regards) ebuilds to check for both ebuild > inconsistencies (Sometimes they do happen, people miss dependencies and > so on) or conflics (Oh, Just in, foo-1.2.4-r2 breaks library > compability with seldom-used-1.0.22.ebuild. oops.) > So is "stable" what the gentoo devs consider stable, or what the software package developers consider stable. I point to gimp-print-4.3.18 which is a development version (4.2.something is the current stable) . I know this isn't really a critical thing in this instance (though I wouldn't like my printing to stop working), it's just I'm starting to try and take back control of what goes onto my systems. I think "gentoo is great" (tm) but it's a bit of a moving target and becomes "Ahem, not so great" (tm) when something breaks and I spend a day (or more) trying to find out what broke. Cheers. Jonathan. > So its the other way around :-) > > the software is (supposedly) ready to go into stable, but the build is > in testing . > > > //Spider > > > > -- > begin .signature > This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! > See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. > end > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Nailing a particular version locally
Hi, I was wondering, is there a way of nailing particular versions on my system(s), sort of like a local /etc/make.profile/packages, that won't get overwritten everytime I "emerge sync" ... I was guessing I could just copy /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4 somewhere and point /etc/make.profile at that, but then I'd have to update that manually. I guess I'm hoping there's some sort of overlay feature in portage for the _contents_ packages file. Cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86
Hi there, just wanted to clarify my understanding of x86 and ~x86. I sort of assumed x86 mean stable and I assumed that meant that the "software" was stable, or does it just refer the fact that the ebuild is stable and working and won't break your system, but all bets are off as to whether the software is actually stable. Cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gcc-3.2.3 and glibc-2.3.2 query stability with Mozilla and java
Hi, I'm not sure, but I _feel_ that MozillaFirebird isn't as stable since I did the upgrade to gcc-3.2.3 and glibc-2.3.2 ... anyone else having problems, noticed anything?? Also, I thought since there was an update to gcc and glibc, is a complete rebuild recommended? If so is "emerge -e world" the way to go? cheers, Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] openbox-2.1.3-r4 upgrade error
Hi all, when I try to upgrade openbox from 2.1.3 to 2.1.3-r4 it barfs with the following error. ... checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for GCC... yes checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no configure: error: Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11. !!! ERROR: x11-wm/openbox-2.3.1 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 303, Exitcode 1 !!! econf failed This seems like a weird error. It's not critical for me, as this box is my firewall, and only have it X and openbox installed incase my main box is out of action. Anyone else seen this? Cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r4 and r5
On Sat, 31 May 2003 09:37:04 +0200 Tony Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 31 May 2003 05.46, Jonathan Kelly wrote: > > On Fri, 30 May 2003 16:03:54 -0500 > > > > Charlton Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have the same problem. My dual-processor P3-500 crashed within > > > minutes of installing r5. > > > I had to back down to r2. > > > > Hmm, yeah, me too. But before I realized I had a problem I trashed the > > 2.4.20-r2 source directory, and there is no -r2 ebuild in portage now? > > > > How/where can I get an older version of an ebuild that the system > > thinks is out of date?? Is this a generic portage problem?? > > > > You can do it a couple of ways, I've tried neither but they should work. > Copy > the gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r5 to gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r2 and put it in > your local portage tree, else you should find the patch file in > /usr/portage/distfiles and manually apply the patch. That seems a bit sad ... oh well, I guess it's back to vanilla for me. > tony > - -- > Contract ASIC and FPGA design. > Telephone +46 702 894 667 > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x633E2623 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iQCVAwUBPthbpWkjRGZD9pCjAQIxRwQAzUeMQBQ07vQeGZKK7baN0C26MY0XdzoO > YYWmsGhXTCKmhV4t59f1E9qjbV0EQ7j20P6WHOTSiViybkpY/fAfv9iJpSmalpxo > QPE8uxXPwVMRJ1UMxc4vKqCrAmG7dPn1i4ht8gFp/3i/3uBRyhGIoWkDB+OO1MaL > tTlclhwNUKg= > =zX3g > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r4 and r5
On Fri, 30 May 2003 16:03:54 -0500 Charlton Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the same problem. My dual-processor P3-500 crashed within > minutes of installing r5. > I had to back down to r2. > Hmm, yeah, me too. But before I realized I had a problem I trashed the 2.4.20-r2 source directory, and there is no -r2 ebuild in portage now? How/where can I get an older version of an ebuild that the system thinks is out of date?? Is this a generic portage problem?? Cheers. Jonathan. > > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:45:22PM +0100, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 08:41, Tony Clark wrote: > > > Does anyone have these patched kernels running correctly on a SMP > > > x86 machine? I have r2 working fine on my dual athlon machine but I > > > can't get r4 and r5 to work correctly on the same machine. It seems > > > to be losing interrups or > > > > I would suggest you file a bug about it. > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firebird Plugins
On Fri, 30 May 2003 07:52:19 -0400 "brett holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Usually the plugins are in a subdirectory under the > browser home directory. For example mozilla/plugins. If > they aren't there you have to create the links to the > them. After many different attempts, I found it goes in /usr/lib/firebird/plugins the "home" for this ebuild is /usr/lib/firebird Cheers. Jonathan. > > On Fri, 30 May 2003 11:45:37 +1000 > Jonathan Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi there, > > > >Trying to move to Firebird, but totally confused about > >plugins now. > > > >I was using mozilla-1.2.1-r5 and had all plugins working > >fine. > > > >Now have MozillaFirebird-0.6-r1 from the bugs page, but > >no plugins work. > >The firebird plugdoc page just talks about the Mozilla > >plugins directory > >and Mozilla components directory ... so where are they? I > >have everything > >setup to point to /usr/lib/nsbrowser. > > > >Any pointers much appreciated! > > > >cheers. > >Jonathan. > > > >-- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firebird Plugins
Hi there, Trying to move to Firebird, but totally confused about plugins now. I was using mozilla-1.2.1-r5 and had all plugins working fine. Now have MozillaFirebird-0.6-r1 from the bugs page, but no plugins work. The firebird plugdoc page just talks about the Mozilla plugins directory and Mozilla components directory ... so where are they? I have everything setup to point to /usr/lib/nsbrowser. Any pointers much appreciated! cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Lilypond woes
Hi there, has anywone got lilypond working? I'm having problems ... the output has no "heads" on the notes. Hmm .. not very usefull. The annoying thing was it was working but I kept getting ghostscript errors about the pagesize, so I tried reinstalling. Mistake? Any ideas? Cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
