Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 12:05, Chris de Vidal wrote: > --- Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > pentium-builder can already do this, no need for new development, and > > with combination of apt-get source it is quite easy. > > Haven't looked at pentium-builder, but if it's like apt-build, it needs > help. I'll check it out today. > > apt-get source && cd && dpkg-buildpackage && cd .. > && dpkg -i .deb works, but it's manual, and doesn't fetch build > dependancies. And there's nothing to install a new system with. You can get build dependencies: apt-get build-dep x > > I just don't understand the need for that new project, it can already be > > done without a problem, for those who want it. > > The attempt is to combine existing technologies into something new, > hopefully with some value to its users. > > > This was no attepmt to slam debian or praise gentoo. > > Thanks, I didn't see it as such. Good, glad we cleared that one. > > Pooling developer resources for this seems a waste > > specially when both Gento and Debian need man power in other projects > > (like DDTP or debian installer). > > The same argument could have been used against Linus for his Minix-like > project, Linux. It's "just for fun." If I recall, so was Linux. Not quite the same scenario :-), but good luck. -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:11, Chris de Vidal wrote: > --- Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 August 2003 18:53, Chris de Vidal wrote: > > > Volunteers needed! > > > http://debtoo.org > > > > What about Gentoo's best feature: dependency and feature customization > > utilizing USE flags ? > > To answer your question: > USE flags? No, but apt handles dependancies, and I've never installed more > bloat than I wanted with Debian.. the minimum install is tiny; I don't use > Gnome and it didn't get installed for my Gnome apps. Close enough. install vim without gpm support included, and there are more. > Use what you like. I like Debian/DebToo. Maybe I should expanded a bit, this is what you get for writing in a hurry: Don't get me wrong, I use both, Gentoo and Debian, on various machines. pentium-builder can already do this, no need for new development, and with combination of apt-get source it is quite easy. I just don't understand the need for that new project, it can already be done without a problem, for those who want it. This was no attepmt to slam debian or praise gentoo. Pooling developer resources for this seems a waste specially when both Gento and Debian need man power in other projects (like DDTP or debian installer). -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 18:53, Chris de Vidal wrote: > Volunteers needed! > http://debtoo.org What about Gentoo's best feature: dependency and feature customization utilizing USE flags ? -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dev-db/firebird-1.0.3 - Please test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, dev-db/firebird is going to to marked as stable soon. I've sent a message asking to test it several weeks ago, got almost no replies. Here's the message again, please test and report success/failure: Please help testing the new ebuild for dev/db-firebird. It's currently marked as ~x86, so make sure to have it in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. This ebuild should close bugs #15071 and #16237. It features the following changes: - - Kills lingering gds_lock_mgr processes left after emerging (#15071) - - latest stable firebird release - 1.0.3.972 (#16237) - - firebird placed under /etc/xinet.d (disabled by default) - - 70firebird placed under env.d to add PATH, ROOT_PATH and CONFIG_PROTECT - - config function to add gds_db to /etc/services - - isc4.gdb and isc_config moved to /etc/firebird and symlinks to them under /opt/interbase added. This will prevent fututre emerges from overwriting the passwords db (which is the current situation). Right now it is just for the classic (i.e: inet) server. The super (i.e.: standalone daemon) will be added hopefully soon. Please backup your current isc4.gdb if you have any and move it to /opt/firebird after emerge. Cheers - -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RRYBRkS5DWK1mZkRAixDAJ0XZkBFDBWgfrV2O8xrMwXaH8vVowCggWJm 772nGtVE+XdfHuagtQyuVGE= =7k+2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dev-db/firebird-1.0.3 - Please test
Hello, Please help testing the new ebuild for dev/db-firebird. It's currently marked as ~x86, so make sure to have it in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. This ebuild should close bugs #15071 and #16237. It features the following changes: - Kills lingering gds_lock_mgr processes left after emerging (#15071) - latest stable firebird release - 1.0.3.972 (#16237) - firebird placed under /etc/xinet.d (disabled by default) - 70firebird placed under env.d to add PATH, ROOT_PATH and CONFIG_PROTECT - config function to add gds_db to /etc/services - isc4.gdb and isc_config moved to /etc/firebird and symlinks to them under /opt/interbase added. This will prevent fututre emerges from overwriting the passwords db (which is the current situation). Right now it is just for the classic (i.e: inet) server. The super (i.e.: standalone daemon) will be added hopefully soon. Please backup your current isc4.gdb if you have any and move it to /opt/firebird after emerge. Cheers -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package management for non-ebuild software
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 23:07, Jan Drugowitsch wrote: > As I just installed Gentoo the first time 3 days ago (I was using Linux > From Scratch for 2.5 years now but I got sick of tracking all dependencies > when keeping the major packages up to date) I'm not sure if that's just a > stupid question but skimming through some documents and searching on the > web didn't answer my question. > > Is there any way with standard-gentoo tools to also keep track of software > installed with ./configure && make && make install? I used install-log with > LFS, but if there's a chance to use a different system I would be glad to > hear about it. > > Any help, or references to www/man/info are welcome, > Jan > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Why don't write an ebuild and place it in your local PORTDIR_OVERLAY, and let portage manage and track the installation ? Writing an ebuild is quite easy (if you can handle bash scripts your already know how). Take a look at the simple ones in portage, and read the documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-howto.xml -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ?pgaccess for gentoo]
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 02:46, Jimmie Fulton wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 17:31, richard terry wrote: > > Being used to Mandrake, this came included in one of the postgres rpms. > > > > Does it exist for gentoo? > > Strange, I HAD pgaccess on my machine, but appears to have been removed, > which I wouldn't have chose to do. All that is left is my .pgaccessrc > which was last updated Jan 24, 2003 (the last time I used it). I'm > almost certain I installed pgaccess via portage. Do packages in portage > ever get removed from portage. And if so, would that remove the > installed application from the machine during an emerge -u world? I think pgaccess needs tcl/tk support to build. Make sure you have tcltk in your USE flags. try: emerge -pv postgresql to see which flags are used -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XMMS & no plugins
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 17:23, MAL wrote: > Tomas Volka wrote: > > Optionally you can emerge masked ebuild with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" > > emerge -u xmms. Thats what i did and it works just fine :) > > lol, except it wants to update 18 other core parts of my system, > including my nvidia driver?! > > oddness :) > > MAL > Drop the -u flag, and it should work without updating the others: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge xmms -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1, XFree 4.3 - no Russian keyboard layout
On Monday 10 March 2003 15:22, Sipos Tibor wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the info. I've tried it, but it is a little bit confusing now... > > So, when I wrote in the info you sent, _and_ set KDE to use EN and RU > layout, the following happened: > > change layout with KDE's applet: no change in layout. Than alt_shift, > layout changes, scroll lock activated, ru layout works fine. Changing back > by KDE - nothing. > So, now I have to change first with KDE, than with X's own alt_shift > combination to get correct layout switching. If I disable layout usage in > KDE's Control Center, there will be no more keyboard switch. Looks like if > KDE needs X's own xkb options to work, but than KDE and X layout grouping > get crossed. > > Oh, and everything works well with other Russian layouts...:( > > Regards, > > Sipi You don't need kde's keyboard layout switcher applet anymore, you can remove it (this is what I've done). The applet doesn't switch layouts actually. It loads the entire layout each time you switch, not very efficient and sometimes the delay is visible until the layout actually switches (specially when the CPU is loaded). You'll notice that when you switch with alt+shift the layout is changed quickly, as it doesn't load it, just changes to the already loaded one. And it works across all WM's/DE's :-) -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1, XFree 4.3 - no Russian keyboard layout
On Monday 10 March 2003 10:41, Sipos Tibor wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently upgraded to XFree 4.3 and KDE 3.1. Now, there is a strange > keyboard behaviour. > > I use English, German, Hungarian and Russian layouts. Russian is the > phonetic one, because this way latin based characters mainly equals to > Russian characters. (I'm not too good in Russian style typewriter > layout...:)) > > But now, every layout works, except this Russian one! Other Russian > variants (basic, typewriter, etc) works well, but with Phonetic, I type and > there are no characters appearing on the screen! > > I've tried to change XF86Config's xkb settings, KDE keyboard settings. The > only one I could manage was that when selecting En_US layout, I could type > with Russian_Phoneetic (!?!), but there was no more US layout. > > There is no meaningful error message, I've tried pc101-pc105 keyboard > layout, nothing. Every layput works, except Russian_phonetic. > > (Someone should hate this layout very-very much..:)) > > Do someone has any suggestion? > > Regards, > > Sipi XFree 4.3.0 Changed keyboard layout handling, Now you need to specify both layouts, this is what I have in my XF86Config regarding the keyboard: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us,il" Option "XkbCompat" "group_led" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" EndSection Replace the il layout with the one you preffer. Now you can switch layouts with alt+shift (left alt), and the scroll lock led will indicate it. You can also temporary type using the other layout while holding down the right alt key, without the need to change layouts. When you'll release it, the layout will go back the the current one. HTH -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://mksoft.co.il -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I'm no tar geru
On Sunday 09 March 2003 22:45, Jesse Jacobs wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I would like to backup my system minus some dirs. > > I print to a file the files/dirs i'd like to skip > > mount /dev/hda1 /boot > find /proc > /tar.test.txt > find /exports >> /tar.test.txt > tar -cvjpsPf -X /tar.test.txt / /exports/backup-full-090303.tar.bz2 > > But when the archive starts the specified dirs are included :) > > I hope to use this for compiling a optimised i686/athlon-xp base to be > used for my own rapid deployment. > > Also I've noticed the archives in /usr/portage/distfiles/*.tbz2 or tar.bz2 > I was hoping I could tar these and extract to the fresh base for a little > bandwith savings. > > Jesse Jacobs. Hi Jesse, You don't need to specify each file in the excludes file. I usually do it with --exclude switch and specify wild cards. I advise against using -P as it can lead to accidents. If you untar it as root by accident it'll overwrite your current system (since / is included). Let tar strip the leading / and untar in the root dir. -p is not really needed at this stage AFAIK, as it affects extract, not creation. You might want to revers the order since usually after 'f' is passed tar is expecting the file name. Try this for example: tar -cvjpf /exports/backup-full-090303.tar.bz2 --directory / --exclude=proc --exclude=exports You can exclude other dirs as well (tmp/* contents for example). There are many tutorials on the net about it, Google will surely find some for you. -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PHP installation problem
On Thursday 20 February 2003 16:06, Henk Abma wrote: > I was setting up a very basic server, with only mail, apache and php, but > to my surprise php insisted on getting X even though * had -x as a use > flag. The flag is -X (capital X). You should also add -qt to the mix (otherwise php will build with qt2's xmldom, which in turn requires X). -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PHP installation problem
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 16:58, rafailow wrote: > On 19 Feb 2003 17:38:28 +0100 > > Brave Cobra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 17:24, Arturo di Gioia wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 17:24, Brave Cobra wrote: > > > > emerge sun-jdk > > > > java-config --list-available-vms (to list the available ones) > > > > java-config --set-system-vm=sun-jdk-1.4.1.01 (or your corresponding > > > > version) > > > > > > 1) > > > > > > > emerge php > > > > > > I had to do > > > > > > 1) > > > env-update > > > source /etc/profile > > > > > > before emerging php, otherwise it complained about not being able to > > > find /bin directory while searching for jar files (my JAVA_HOME was > > > pointing to blackdown-jre, my previous vm). > > > > Oops, yep, indeed, Tnx for the correction. > > > > -- > > Brave Cobra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > yeah thx... it works fine... :)) > Do all you guys really need java support with php ? Whole idea of use flags is to customize the software to your needs. If not, why not set -java in USE flags (along with X and qt while at it) ? -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE styles gone?
On Thursday 30 January 2003 19:43, Jeremy Workman wrote: > Hello, > > It seems all the KDE styles are missing after upgrade from qt-3.1.0-r1 > to qt-3.1.0-r2. I'm wondering what happened, and how I can get them > back. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rememrge kdelibs and any other styles you may be using (liquid, kdeartwork etc...) Cheers -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
