Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 20:33, Max wrote: > > > > Its no problem at all to use the A7V600 without SATA drives. > > > > Check /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/raid to be sure. > > > > Andi > > I'd like to see your hdparm -tT results please? I'm attempting to build a SATA machine this week. I'll post back some results when I get them. - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:13:04 +0200 Andreas Roedl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello! > > Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2003 02:14 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 16:45, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > > I have three ATA133 drives and one DVD writer. The DVD writer is > > > on the second IDE channel and the 3 hard disks are on a Promise > > > ATA133 card - which I've always trusted more than VIA. I'm not > > > using SATA drives - that's what I meant to say. > > > > OK, so no one here in Gentooland is using SATA. > > I'm using SATA. Not only the SATA controller but also SATA drives > connected to it. :-) All I can say is, that I wasn't able to use the > SATA drives with the Asus A7V600 Motherboard. I switched to the Asus > A7N8X Deluxe board with its Silicon Image 3112 (SATA) Chip, which is > supported by Linux. > > Its no problem at all to use the A7V600 without SATA drives. > > Check /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/raid to be sure. > > Andi I'd like to see your hdparm -tT results please? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
Hello! Am Freitag, 24. Oktober 2003 08:00 schrieb Mike Diehl > So I have a dumb question. What is SATA? http://www.serialata.org/ http://images.google.com/images?q=Serial+ATA Andi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
Serial ATA, a new standard for periferals. http://www.serialata.org/ Biker "Mike Diehl (Encrypted email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] preferred)" cc: (bcc: Gustav Schaffter/CDS/CG/CAPITAL) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel? dyndns.org> 24-10-2003 08:00 Please respond to gentoo-user On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:28 pm, Andreas Roedl wrote: > Hello! > > Am Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 20:16 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > I think someone must be using this board? Have you had good results? Easy > > or difficult to install Gentoo? > > I just bought an Asus A7V600 SATA board where the SATA controller is > included in the southbridge and realized that its impossible to get it > working under Linux. The day after I bought the Asus A7N8X Deluxe which is > equipped with a Silicon Image 3112 Chip and it works pretty well. So I have a dumb question. What is SATA? Thanx, Mike. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:28 pm, Andreas Roedl wrote: > Hello! > > Am Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 20:16 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > I think someone must be using this board? Have you had good results? Easy > > or difficult to install Gentoo? > > I just bought an Asus A7V600 SATA board where the SATA controller is > included in the southbridge and realized that its impossible to get it > working under Linux. The day after I bought the Asus A7N8X Deluxe which is > equipped with a Silicon Image 3112 Chip and it works pretty well. So I have a dumb question. What is SATA? Thanx, Mike. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
Hello! Am Sonntag, 19. Oktober 2003 22:00 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Are you using raid? We do not want to, so I just want to make sure that > there is no requirement to use raid. (I don't imagine there is, but just > being careful.) No, I'm not using the RAID feature. My logical volumes (LVM) are striped over two physical volumes. It's not slower than a hardware RAID but more flexible. Andi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 09:13, Andreas Roedl wrote: > > I'm using SATA. Not only the SATA controller but also SATA drives connected to > it. :-) All I can say is, that I wasn't able to use the SATA drives with the > Asus A7V600 Motherboard. I switched to the Asus A7N8X Deluxe board with its > Silicon Image 3112 (SATA) Chip, which is supported by Linux. Yes, I think I've learned this over the last few days. The Silicon Image chip is the most supported one, followed not so closely by anything else? I also found an Intel MB with SATA support working for Redhat. Anything with an Intel 875P chipset apparently. I've also tried writing a couple of SATA developers but haven't received a reply yet. Are you using raid? We do not want to, so I just want to make sure that there is no requirement to use raid. (I don't imagine there is, but just being careful.) > > Its no problem at all to use the A7V600 without SATA drives. Yep. > > Check /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/raid to be sure. > > Andi Thanks very much for writing back. - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
Hello! Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2003 02:14 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 16:45, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > I have three ATA133 drives and one DVD writer. The DVD writer is on the > > second IDE channel and the 3 hard disks are on a Promise ATA133 card - > > which I've always trusted more than VIA. I'm not using SATA drives - > > that's what I meant to say. > > OK, so no one here in Gentooland is using SATA. I'm using SATA. Not only the SATA controller but also SATA drives connected to it. :-) All I can say is, that I wasn't able to use the SATA drives with the Asus A7V600 Motherboard. I switched to the Asus A7N8X Deluxe board with its Silicon Image 3112 (SATA) Chip, which is supported by Linux. Its no problem at all to use the A7V600 without SATA drives. Check /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/raid to be sure. Andi -- -> Andreas Roedl-> Senior IT Manager -> NATIVE INSTRUMENTS GmbH -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> Schlesische Strasse 28 -> http://www.native-instruments.de/ -> D-10997 Berlin -> Tel. +49-30-61 10 35-430 -> Germany -> Fax +49-30-61 10 35-35 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
> On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 01:14, Mark Knecht wrote: > > OK, so no one here in Gentooland is using SATA. Do you know if this > > 'Compatibility Mode' for the SATA drive controller exists in your > > machine's BIOS? If this is a machine that you reboot once in a while, > > would that be something you'd mind taking a minute to look for? > > On mine the BIOS settings for SATA are just enabled/disabled. > > Peter Peter, Thanks for looking. I really appreciate you taking the time to look around in there. BIOS stuff is seldom that well documented. It's disappointing that the Asus Intel board has this compatibility mode and the Asus Via board does not. I guess the Intel South Bridge chip designers must have thought of this issue. Based on feedback from one of the Redhat forums, I'm thinking that I'll likely have to go with the P4C800 which apparently can install Redhat 9 on SATA drives. Once I have that working, I'll likely try out Gentoo's install since I'd really rather run Gentoo. Thanks very much for your help. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 01:14, Mark Knecht wrote: > OK, so no one here in Gentooland is using SATA. Do you know if this > 'Compatibility Mode' for the SATA drive controller exists in your > machine's BIOS? If this is a machine that you reboot once in a while, > would that be something you'd mind taking a minute to look for? On mine the BIOS settings for SATA are just enabled/disabled. Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r13 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre7-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 16:45, Peter Ruskin wrote: > I have three ATA133 drives and one DVD writer. The DVD writer is on the > second IDE channel and the 3 hard disks are on a Promise ATA133 card - > which I've always trusted more than VIA. I'm not using SATA drives - > that's what I meant to say. > OK, so no one here in Gentooland is using SATA. Do you know if this 'Compatibility Mode' for the SATA drive controller exists in your machine's BIOS? If this is a machine that you reboot once in a while, would that be something you'd mind taking a minute to look for? It's not critical, but of interest to me if you get a chance. And in any case, thanks for all the info. It's been very helpful. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 21:21, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I have a Gigabyte GA-7VT600 1394 board that also has the VIA KT600 > > chipset. I'm not using the builtin VT8237 but the patch Mathieu > > posted is identical to the driver included in at least the last > > three versions of gs-sources, so there's no need to patch > > gs-sources. > > > > Peter > > Peter, >"I'm not using the builtin VT8237..." > >I wanted make sure I understand this comment. You are not using > which part of the VT8237? It's a huge chip with a lot of functions - > Serial ATA, RAID Controller, Parallel ATA, portions of Via sound > support, USB, keyboard and mouse controllers. > >I am *thinking* you mean that you are not using SATA, or RAID, or > neither, but I'm not clear. You MUST be using the keyboard and mouse > controllers at least, right? > >I guess maybe you are using just a standard ATA drive and CDROM on > the parallel ATA interface? I have three ATA133 drives and one DVD writer. The DVD writer is on the second IDE channel and the 3 hard disks are on a Promise ATA133 card - which I've always trusted more than VIA. I'm not using SATA drives - that's what I meant to say. I have a Soundblaster Live card, so the Realtek audio is disabled in the bios. Onboard LAN (Realtek) and USB (2.0 and USB-alt) work fine. > >This could be a fall-back position if I do have trouble with SATA > for some reason. (I think I won't, but...) > >I completely get that I do not need to patch gs-sources to use the > VT8237. I just want to be 100% completely clear what you are doing. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- == Portage 2.0.49-r13 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre7-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 16:07, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 19:50, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Mattieu - can you confirm if you are using a SATA hard drive? Or are you
> > using an EDIE drive on the more traditional parallel ATA interface that
> > this motherboard offers?
>
> maTHieu please ;-)
Very sorry. My son's named Matt. I'm too used to writing 2 t's.
> I'm using pure IDE, sorry. sata cables are still in the box.
> I had to buy a new card and my reseller sold me this one. I don't use sata,
> raid, giga-ethernet nor the via-soundcard.
> Next time, I'll check the specs before buying a new card.
Yes, I can imagine you would!
>
> Anyway, after my first reboot with the new card, I was just missing dma
> support (that's the only thing I was able to spot). Keyboard, disks and usb
> worked fine.
> I don't think that the patch includes SATA support. Unless it was defined in
> FUTURE_BRIDGES.
>
> -#ifdef FUTURE_BRIDGES
>{ "vt8237", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237, 0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_133 },
> -#endif
Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 19:50, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Mattieu - can you confirm if you are using a SATA hard drive? Or are you
> using an EDIE drive on the more traditional parallel ATA interface that
> this motherboard offers?
maTHieu please ;-)
I'm using pure IDE, sorry. sata cables are still in the box.
I had to buy a new card and my reseller sold me this one. I don't use sata,
raid, giga-ethernet nor the via-soundcard.
Next time, I'll check the specs before buying a new card.
Anyway, after my first reboot with the new card, I was just missing dma
support (that's the only thing I was able to spot). Keyboard, disks and usb
worked fine.
I don't think that the patch includes SATA support. Unless it was defined in
FUTURE_BRIDGES.
-#ifdef FUTURE_BRIDGES
{ "vt8237", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237, 0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_133 },
-#endif
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RE: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
> Hi Mark, > I have a Gigabyte GA-7VT600 1394 board that also has the VIA KT600 > chipset. I'm not using the builtin VT8237 but the patch Mathieu posted > is identical to the driver included in at least the last three versions > of gs-sources, so there's no need to patch gs-sources. > > Peter Peter, "I'm not using the builtin VT8237..." I wanted make sure I understand this comment. You are not using which part of the VT8237? It's a huge chip with a lot of functions - Serial ATA, RAID Controller, Parallel ATA, portions of Via sound support, USB, keyboard and mouse controllers. I am *thinking* you mean that you are not using SATA, or RAID, or neither, but I'm not clear. You MUST be using the keyboard and mouse controllers at least, right? I guess maybe you are using just a standard ATA drive and CDROM on the parallel ATA interface? This could be a fall-back position if I do have trouble with SATA for some reason. (I think I won't, but...) I completely get that I do not need to patch gs-sources to use the VT8237. I just want to be 100% completely clear what you are doing. Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 18:50, Mark Knecht wrote: > Peter - as I understand the numbering, the VT8237 is the South Bridge > on this motherboard which contains the SATA controller. Do the > patches you indicate are now in the gs-sources kernel specifically > include SATA patches? Or were you just saying that that there is no > reason for people to patch the kernel to support the VT8237 any more? Hi Mark, I have a Gigabyte GA-7VT600 1394 board that also has the VIA KT600 chipset. I'm not using the builtin VT8237 but the patch Mathieu posted is identical to the driver included in at least the last three versions of gs-sources, so there's no need to patch gs-sources. Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r13 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre7-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:28, Andreas Roedl wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Am Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 20:16 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > > I think someone must be using this board? Have you had good > results? Easy > > > or difficult to install Gentoo? > > > > I just bought an Asus A7V600 SATA board where the SATA controller is > > included in the southbridge and realized that its impossible to get it > > working under Linux. The day after I bought the Asus A7N8X > Deluxe which is > > equipped with a Silicon Image 3112 Chip and it works pretty well. > > > > If you have the chance to get rid of the A7V600 and exchange it > against the > > A7N8X Deluxe, do it! > > I patched the my kernels for vt8237 support (manually, because > gentoo-sources > don't handle the patch) and now everything is fine like before. Except > windows but I wasn't using it anyway ;-) I also patched my > mandrake's kernel > and could boot mandrake too. > Note: I have not tried sata, the via sound interface or the 3com > gigaethernet. > But everything else work fine. (almost: my kernel always > complains about irq > routing conflicts during boot). Andreas, Mattieu & Peter, Thanks for the responses. I have been asking this question in a couple of different forums and am getting somewhat conflicting answers. I think this is most likely due to SATA being pretty new, and certainly not really well supported just yet. Mattieu - can you confirm if you are using a SATA hard drive? Or are you using an EDIE drive on the more traditional parallel ATA interface that this motherboard offers? Peter - as I understand the numbering, the VT8237 is the South Bridge on this motherboard which contains the SATA controller. Do the patches you indicate are now in the gs-sources kernel specifically include SATA patches? Or were you just saying that that there is no reason for people to patch the kernel to support the VT8237 any more? A BIT MORE INFO - I am told that on the Asus P4C800 motherboard that there is a BIOS option for the SATA controller called 'compatibility mode', and that with this option enabled people are able to boot and install Redhat 9. I have no information about what that option might do to SATA performance, or whether this option exists on the A7V600 motherboard. Maybe it's an Intel only thing. Thanks again for your help. I'd really like to run both Gentoo & SATA on this box, so I need to get this info before spending the cash. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 01:54, mathieu perrenoud wrote: > I patched the my kernels for vt8237 support (manually, because > gentoo-sources don't handle the patch) and now everything is fine > like before. Except gs-sources has this patch already. Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r13 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre6-gss-r1) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:28, Andreas Roedl wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Am Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 20:16 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> > I think someone must be using this board? Have you had good results? Easy
> > or difficult to install Gentoo?
>
> I just bought an Asus A7V600 SATA board where the SATA controller is
> included in the southbridge and realized that its impossible to get it
> working under Linux. The day after I bought the Asus A7N8X Deluxe which is
> equipped with a Silicon Image 3112 Chip and it works pretty well.
>
> If you have the chance to get rid of the A7V600 and exchange it against the
> A7N8X Deluxe, do it!
I've bought an A7V600. It supports SATA so I guess it must be the A7V600 SATA.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
After installing the board, I couldn't boot with mandrake anymore and windows
booted on 320x200 without mouse or keyboard but gentoo (on an ATA card, not
on the board's ide controller) booted without problem. I had just lost DMA
control and that sort of thing.
I patched the my kernels for vt8237 support (manually, because gentoo-sources
don't handle the patch) and now everything is fine like before. Except
windows but I wasn't using it anyway ;-) I also patched my mandrake's kernel
and could boot mandrake too.
Note: I have not tried sata, the via sound interface or the 3com gigaethernet.
But everything else work fine. (almost: my kernel always complains about irq
routing conflicts during boot).
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Support for VIA vt8237 IDE.
drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.c | 10 --
include/linux/pci_ids.h |7 ---
2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
diff -Nru a/drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.c b/drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.c
--- a/drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.c Fri May 16 10:47:10 2003
+++ b/drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.c Fri May 16 10:47:10 2003
@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
/*
*
- * Version 3.36
+ * Version 3.37
*
* VIA IDE driver for Linux. Supported southbridges:
*
* vt82c576, vt82c586, vt82c586a, vt82c586b, vt82c596a, vt82c596b,
* vt82c686, vt82c686a, vt82c686b, vt8231, vt8233, vt8233c, vt8233a,
- * vt8235
+ * vt8235, vt8237
*
* Copyright (c) 2000-2002 Vojtech Pavlik
*
@@ -74,9 +74,7 @@
u8 rev_max;
u16 flags;
} via_isa_bridges[] = {
-#ifdef FUTURE_BRIDGES
- { "vt8237", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237, 0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_133 },
-#endif
+ { "vt8237", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237, 0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_133 | VIA_BAD_AST },
{ "vt8235", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8235, 0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_133 | VIA_BAD_AST },
{ "vt8233a", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8233A,0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_133 | VIA_BAD_AST },
{ "vt8233c", PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8233C_0, 0x00, 0x2f, VIA_UDMA_100 },
@@ -148,7 +146,7 @@
via_print("--VIA BusMastering IDE Configuration"
"");
- via_print("Driver Version: 3.36");
+ via_print("Driver Version: 3.37");
via_print("South Bridge: VIA %s",
via_config->name);
diff -Nru a/include/linux/pci_ids.h b/include/linux/pci_ids.h
--- a/include/linux/pci_ids.h Fri May 16 10:47:10 2003
+++ b/include/linux/pci_ids.h Fri May 16 10:47:10 2003
@@ -1026,10 +1026,11 @@
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8233C_0 0x3109
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8361 0x3112
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8233A 0x3147
-#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_P4X333 0x3168
-#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_82350x3177
-#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8377_0 0x3189
+#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237_SATA 0x3149
+#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_P4X333 0x3168
+#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8235 0x3177
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8377_0 0x3189
+#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237 0x3227
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_86C100A 0x6100
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8231 0x8231
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8231_4 0x8235
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Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
Hello! Am Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 20:16 schrieb Mark Knecht: > I think someone must be using this board? Have you had good results? Easy > or difficult to install Gentoo? I just bought an Asus A7V600 SATA board where the SATA controller is included in the southbridge and realized that its impossible to get it working under Linux. The day after I bought the Asus A7N8X Deluxe which is equipped with a Silicon Image 3112 Chip and it works pretty well. If you have the chance to get rid of the A7V600 and exchange it against the A7N8X Deluxe, do it! Andi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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