RE: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
>> This is because of the gtk-qt-engines package. > >How can one install this separately using emerge? Duh, I see it's pretty common to add the letter s to the emerge build (emerge gtk-qt-engine in this case). Chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 20:00 -0600, Kathy Wills wrote: > >I've got a GTK Styles and Fonts applet in my KDE Control Center, but > >I'm not sure what package I installed to get it (if any - might be > >standard in the current KDE releases)... that should do what you want > >it to do, I think... No need for a daemon for KDE, AFAIK. > > This is because of the gtk-qt-engines package. How can one install this separately using emerge? Chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
James Hiscock wrote: I've got a GTK Styles and Fonts applet in my KDE Control Center, but I'm not sure what package I installed to get it (if any - might be standard in the current KDE releases)... that should do what you want it to do, I think... No need for a daemon for KDE, AFAIK. This is because of the gtk-qt-engines package. -- Kathy Wills + + Genealogy Web Site: http://www.brannanorwills.com + + + + -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Well, guys, thank U all for the help. I've followed all your suggestions by now and surely learnt something more; by now gnome-settings-daemon is running, gtk-chtheme has been *theming* but still my fonts look ugly...maybe less ugly than before...maybe my eyes haven't been upgraded yet (!) I should follow my wife's two hours ago advice and go to bed by now. I'll try again tomorrow. Bye all! On Sunday 09 January 2005 17:26, Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: > Hi all! > > Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment: > > http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png > > I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, > and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel. > > It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web > browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror). > > Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered? > Thank you. > > Fabrizio > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Daniel Drake wrote: Holly Bostick wrote: So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman-- unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead). I don't think it exactly works like this. If a web page specifically uses font family "Arial" then Arial will be used, if present, no matter what your font settings are. (This is of course assuming that you don't have the "Always use my fonts" box ticked.) Well, that's kind of what I said, but I was trying to keep it relatively simple. If a web page specifically uses a font family, that is not really vastly different from embedding a specific font (since you may not actually have Arial, but a bunch of aliases aliasing Arial to Helvetica, in which case you'd see Helvetica). In any case, this is all pretty shoddy HTML coding in any case, and I didn't see so much need to discuss the intricacies of shoddy coding in a general explanation of the Mozilla/Firefox configuration dialog and what the various options were actually meant to effect. If no font is specified by the website, it uses whatever you have chosen for your Proportional font (which as you point out is a "pointer" to one of the other choices). Which is as it should be, imo. I've been to enough websites that actually offered a font download so you could "see the page as it was intended" (assuming I care about the artistic-ness of it all), and I find that kind of thing really annoying-- as I do embedded fonts in email. Not only does this behaviour take away my choice, and eat up my hard drive space, but it may even be a problem-- if I'm visually disabled, I may not even be able to read your cute little font (and sometimes even when I'm not-- what some people find readable truly eludes me at times). In any case, I'm interested in the information, not the "creative vision", and the best way to be sure that the information is readable for me (at this very literal level, nothing said about general site/page design), is to let me decide what font is used to display the page, since I know what font and size I find most comfortable to read, and the site creator does not. So why should that person get to decide? (They shouldn't, and they shouldn't code to force that decision on me.) I don't think it is used much, but I think using font family "sans", "sans-serif", etc, is encouraged on websites, and if a website was to specify this, then the font you have chosen in that dialog would be substituted in. Well, that's getting into CSS stylesheets, which are used quite a lot, and is *really* not the subject of this discussion ;-) . Holly Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Holly Bostick wrote: So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman-- unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead). I don't think it exactly works like this. If a web page specifically uses font family "Arial" then Arial will be used, if present, no matter what your font settings are. (This is of course assuming that you don't have the "Always use my fonts" box ticked.) If no font is specified by the website, it uses whatever you have chosen for your Proportional font (which as you point out is a "pointer" to one of the other choices). I don't think it is used much, but I think using font family "sans", "sans-serif", etc, is encouraged on websites, and if a website was to specify this, then the font you have chosen in that dialog would be substituted in. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:31:47 +0100, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0100, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: > >>>Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then: > >>> > >>>1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts > >>>under /usr/share/fonts ... > >>> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls > >>>100dpi TTF corefonts freefont misc > >>>ttf-bitstream-vera > >>>75dpi Type1 defaultlfp-fix ms-truetype unifont > >>>CID afmsencodings lfpfonts-var sharefonts util > >>>Speedo artwiz fonts.cache-1 local terminus > >>Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and > >>you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif' > >>and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know > >>you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera > >>Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in > >>your screenshot, right? > > > > Holly, > >Wrong for me. I haven't follow this thread so maybe I'm missing > > something, but I've had some font problems in the last few days since > > I threw Open Office on this machine. It seems to have changed the > > fonts Mozilla is using. > > > >In my case I have some fonts on the system: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/ > > bitmap-fonts bitstream-vera default fonts.cache-1 openoffice > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera > > fonts.cache-1 VeraBI.ttf VeraMoBd.ttf VeraMoIt.ttf VeraSeBd.ttf > > Vera.ttf > > VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf VeraMoBI.ttf VeraMono.ttf VeraSe.ttf > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ > > > > but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif. > > > > - Mark > > Are you talking about OOo or Mozilla? Hopefully Mozilla, because I don't > have OOo on my system atm. > > Plus, I use Firefox, but it's not that different. > > If you look at the Firefox font config screen, the first thing it asks > you is what encoding (Western). > > Then it asks you what *kind* of font you want to use as your > Proportional font by default: serif or sans-serif. These are your > choices in variable-width font types; fixed-width fonts are generally > only used in mail, or called for by the webpage itself, so you don't get > this as an option, since no one really wants to read a webpage in > Courier 10. > > Then there are three separate dropdown menus that ask you which > *specific* font you want to use for your serif font, your sans-serif > font, and your monospace font. > > So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in > sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, > your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New > Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman-- > unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't > see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where > a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead). > > As far as I know, Mozilla has these settings (or very similar ones) as > well; what OOo has to do with it, I don't know, but I'm almost certain > that you can change the default display font there as well, if necessary. > > Holly Thanks Holly. This was the first good explanation I've seen on how to actually make this work. I appreciate it greatly. I'm now able to make changes and they actually show up. Stupid me for not checking all the drop down boxes. Silly mozilla.org for not making this jsut a bit clearer. (Or stupid me again!) Anyway, thanks. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0100, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then: 1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts under /usr/share/fonts ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls 100dpi TTF corefonts freefont misc ttf-bitstream-vera 75dpi Type1 defaultlfp-fix ms-truetype unifont CID afmsencodings lfpfonts-var sharefonts util Speedo artwiz fonts.cache-1 local terminus Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif' and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in your screenshot, right? Holly, Wrong for me. I haven't follow this thread so maybe I'm missing something, but I've had some font problems in the last few days since I threw Open Office on this machine. It seems to have changed the fonts Mozilla is using. In my case I have some fonts on the system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/ bitmap-fonts bitstream-vera default fonts.cache-1 openoffice [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera fonts.cache-1 VeraBI.ttf VeraMoBd.ttf VeraMoIt.ttf VeraSeBd.ttf Vera.ttf VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf VeraMoBI.ttf VeraMono.ttf VeraSe.ttf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif. - Mark Are you talking about OOo or Mozilla? Hopefully Mozilla, because I don't have OOo on my system atm. Plus, I use Firefox, but it's not that different. If you look at the Firefox font config screen, the first thing it asks you is what encoding (Western). Then it asks you what *kind* of font you want to use as your Proportional font by default: serif or sans-serif. These are your choices in variable-width font types; fixed-width fonts are generally only used in mail, or called for by the webpage itself, so you don't get this as an option, since no one really wants to read a webpage in Courier 10. Then there are three separate dropdown menus that ask you which *specific* font you want to use for your serif font, your sans-serif font, and your monospace font. So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman-- unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead). As far as I know, Mozilla has these settings (or very similar ones) as well; what OOo has to do with it, I don't know, but I'm almost certain that you can change the default display font there as well, if necessary. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Mark Knecht wrote: In my case I have some fonts on the system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/ bitmap-fonts bitstream-vera default fonts.cache-1 openoffice [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera fonts.cache-1 VeraBI.ttf VeraMoBd.ttf VeraMoIt.ttf VeraSeBd.ttf Vera.ttf VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf VeraMoBI.ttf VeraMono.ttf VeraSe.ttf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif. Then you need to add the font paths to fontconfig file and update the font cache. See my earlier post in this thread. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0100, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: > > Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then: > > > > 1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts > > under /usr/share/fonts ... > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls > > 100dpi TTF corefonts freefont misc ttf-bitstream-vera > > 75dpi Type1 defaultlfp-fix ms-truetype unifont > > CID afmsencodings lfpfonts-var sharefonts util > > Speedo artwiz fonts.cache-1 local terminus > > Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and > you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif' > and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know > you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera > Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in > your screenshot, right? Holly, Wrong for me. I haven't follow this thread so maybe I'm missing something, but I've had some font problems in the last few days since I threw Open Office on this machine. It seems to have changed the fonts Mozilla is using. In my case I have some fonts on the system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/ bitmap-fonts bitstream-vera default fonts.cache-1 openoffice [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera fonts.cache-1 VeraBI.ttf VeraMoBd.ttf VeraMoIt.ttf VeraSeBd.ttf Vera.ttf VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf VeraMoBI.ttf VeraMono.ttf VeraSe.ttf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then: 1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts under /usr/share/fonts ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls 100dpi TTF corefonts freefont misc ttf-bitstream-vera 75dpi Type1 defaultlfp-fix ms-truetype unifont CID afmsencodings lfpfonts-var sharefonts util Speedo artwiz fonts.cache-1 local terminus Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif' and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in your screenshot, right? This should improve the rendering of the webpages themselves, which is what this setting controls. We are talking about two separate issues, you know-- the font used to render the web page display (which is controlled by Firefox itself), and the fonts used to render the application window (which is controlled by the window manager's governing library, meaning GTK or QT). Firefox is a GTK2 application. 2) I'm emerging gtk-chtheme, does this work better than kcontrol - fonts section? Yes, because Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird are GTK apps, not KDE/QT apps-- so kcontrol has no control by default over what fonts they use to display their windows unless you get the gtk-qt engine from either gnome-look.org or kde-look.org, and/or check the little checkbox that says "allow non-KDE apps to use my KDE settings" in KControl (which you should also do). That generally works, but not for all GTK apps (especially GTK1 apps). gtk-chtheme allows you to set the fonts and theme for these apps independently, although it may mean that you might need to trawl around gnome-look.org to find some themes that nearly match your (there are some in Portage). Why are we even talking about KDE if you use fluxbox? KControl isn't available in fluxbox any more than it is in GNOME. 3) I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are the only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox that seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which are not configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of gtk configuration... Yes, it is-- because since you do not use GNOME, you have no real GTK configuration, and the defaults used in the absence of active configuration look like junk, generally. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
> What do u mean, James... that as long as I don't have any gnome package > installed I can't make my fonts better? Not quite -- it's just a whole heck of a lot easier to deal with if you've got bits of Gnome installed so you can easily configure your GTK apps to look prettier than they do by default. gnome-settings-daemon is provided by the gnome-base/control-center package. It's got a ton of dependencies, though, so it's probably not going to solve your problem easily (I'm assuming that you're using KDE exclusively, and not Gnome)... > And if so, is there a way to have the gnome-settings-daemon installed with the > minimum number of gnome packages installed? Dunno. Best you can do is try emerge -av control-center and see just how much you're going to have to install. > Or better, is there some equivalent daemon for kde? I've got a GTK Styles and Fonts applet in my KDE Control Center, but I'm not sure what package I installed to get it (if any - might be standard in the current KDE releases)... that should do what you want it to do, I think... No need for a daemon for KDE, AFAIK. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Hi, Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment: http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel. It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror). From another of your posts, it looks like you have the ttf-bitstream-vera fonts installed. Place the following file at /etc/fonts/local.conf : www.gnome.org/fonts/local.conf Add the following line towards the top: /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera Run: fc-cache -fv Restart X. Hopefully you'll then have nicer looking default fonts for sans/sans-serif/etc. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
What do u mean, James... that as long as I don't have any gnome package installed I can't make my fonts better? And if so, is there a way to have the gnome-settings-daemon installed with the minimum number of gnome packages installed? Or better, is there some equivalent daemon for kde? I've run the gtk-chtheme but I've found it not-helping... Thank u anyway. I've appreciated..but still ugly fonts... On Sunday 09 January 2005 20:19, James Hiscock wrote: > > I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are > > the only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox > > that seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which > > are not configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of > > gtk configuration... > > Try running > /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon & > from a terminal -- it'll probably solve the ugly fonts problem. If > not, change the fonts using the fonts applet in the Gnome control > center -- KDE control center's font applet is only for QT/KDE apps, > while Gnome's will work for all GTK apps, as long as > gnome-settings-daemon is running. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
> I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are the > only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox that > seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which are not > configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of gtk > configuration... Try running /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon & from a terminal -- it'll probably solve the ugly fonts problem. If not, change the fonts using the fonts applet in the Gnome control center -- KDE control center's font applet is only for QT/KDE apps, while Gnome's will work for all GTK apps, as long as gnome-settings-daemon is running. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then: 1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts under /usr/share/fonts ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls 100dpi TTF corefonts freefont misc ttf-bitstream-vera 75dpi Type1 defaultlfp-fix ms-truetype unifont CID afmsencodings lfpfonts-var sharefonts util Speedo artwiz fonts.cache-1 local terminus 2) I'm emerging gtk-chtheme, does this work better than kcontrol - fonts section? 3) I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are the only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox that seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which are not configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of gtk configuration... Thank you for your help. Fabrizio On Sunday 09 January 2005 18:54, Holly Bostick wrote: > Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment: > > > > http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png > > > > I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, > > and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel. > > > > It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web > > browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror). > > > > Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered? > > Thank you. > > > > Fabrizio > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > My first suggestion would be to "use *real* fonts" (no offence > intended). Those "serif", "sans-serif" and "monospace" you've got listed > imo render the worst of all the possible fonts you could have installed. > If you don't have any real fonts installed, check out the > bitstream-vera, msfonts, and many other font packages available in > Portage, and then set your browser to use them to render web pages. > > Now, this won't help with the menus and all, because that is set by gtk, > and your fluxbox desktop fonts are usually set by the theme, iirc. A lot > of them (fluxbox themes) like you to have the artwiz fonts installed. > I've never been so fond of artwiz fonts, but naturally, unless you want > to hack the theme, it's best to have them, otherwise the theme will have > to make something up, and that usually doesn't look so good. > > For GTK apps, you can install gtk-chtheme, which will allow you to > change the font for the menus and whatnot in GTK-based programs > (alternatively, if you have GNOME installed, you could use GNOME itself > to do so, and run gnome-settings-daemon when you start fluxbox, but a > lot of people don't like this solution). > > Hope this helps. > Holly > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Fabrizio Prosperi wrote: Hi all! Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment: http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel. It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror). Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered? Thank you. Fabrizio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My first suggestion would be to "use *real* fonts" (no offence intended). Those "serif", "sans-serif" and "monospace" you've got listed imo render the worst of all the possible fonts you could have installed. If you don't have any real fonts installed, check out the bitstream-vera, msfonts, and many other font packages available in Portage, and then set your browser to use them to render web pages. Now, this won't help with the menus and all, because that is set by gtk, and your fluxbox desktop fonts are usually set by the theme, iirc. A lot of them (fluxbox themes) like you to have the artwiz fonts installed. I've never been so fond of artwiz fonts, but naturally, unless you want to hack the theme, it's best to have them, otherwise the theme will have to make something up, and that usually doesn't look so good. For GTK apps, you can install gtk-chtheme, which will allow you to change the font for the menus and whatnot in GTK-based programs (alternatively, if you have GNOME installed, you could use GNOME itself to do so, and run gnome-settings-daemon when you start fluxbox, but a lot of people don't like this solution). Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?
Hi all! Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment: http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel. It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror). Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered? Thank you. Fabrizio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
