Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:47:30 +
Tony Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Nick,
> 
> Monday, January 17, 2005, 9:52:51 AM, you wrote:
> 
> NR> perhaps we need to do a complete revision of your error messages, as i
> NR> am becoming a bit lost.
> 
> As am I.
> 
> I can at least get a picture now but it's very jumpy if I use a larger
> window.
> 

i'd start looking :

1 at the tv norms (not sure whether you are in an ntsc or pal area, but
there are varieties of pal, try em all) - 

2 at the options you are feeding to bttv. my avermedia card was pretty
awful until i stumbled upon the right options to give to the bttv and
i2c-algo-bit modules. once again i am at work and the home machine is
turned off.

so this bit is from memory:

bttv card=(here put the magic number corresponding to your card - see
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/CARDLIST)

i2c-algo-bitbit_test=1

these helped me, i hope they do you too :-)







> This is the output from dmesg now.
> 
> tuner: TV freq (0.00) out of range (44-958)
> bttv0: PLL can sleep, using XTAL (28636363).
> bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok
> bttv0: OCERR @ 1fcab01c,bits: HSYNC RISCI* OCERR*
> bttv0: PLL can sleep, using XTAL (28636363).
> bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok
> 
> 
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[gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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Was Mon, 17 Jan 2005, at 14:44:58 +1300,
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>> So, would that help if you would copy your config files for TV card
>> from SuSE to the Gentoo?

> there really are no config files for bttv, other than the options
> given to bttv (which you can establish by modinfo bttv)

Ah so. Thanks for explanations, to you Nick, and to Holly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Heinz Sporn
Ok, weird might have been the wrong word ;-). But allow me to call your
installation "not the normal, average desktop scenario". I've been in
this strage IT business for over 20 years now and to be honest: your the
first one I've heard of who actually did that - on purpose. Great!

Am Montag, den 17.01.2005, 10:58 -0500 schrieb James Hiscock:
> > And you normally can't have two graphic cards in one box. There might be
> > some weird way though to have both an AGP card and a PCI one installed
> > but I wouldn't bet on that.
> 
> This is horribly inaccurate: I currently have 4 in my desktop at home.
> One built-in video card on the motherboard (AGP, disabled); an ATI
> AIW-Radeon 9200 64MB AGP (that I haven't bothered trying to get
> working in Linux); a Nvidia GeForce MX 440 64MB PCI; and an Nvidia
> GeForce FX5200 128MB PCI.
> 
> ...and I have all three of them (the ATI card and both Nvidia cards)
> enabled & working in both Windows and Linux. It's not weird at all...
> unless you find it weird having 3x 17" LCDs hooked up to a single
> machine, with a desktop spanning all three monitors...?
> 
> (greedy, yes; silly, yes; but - even if I do say so myself - it _does_
> look cool. ;)
> 
> ... but now I'm straying horribly off-topic ...
> 
> >And if it's not a silly question (Which  bet it is) is it 
> > possible to have two graphic cards
> > installed... One for XP the other for Gentoo?
> 
> Definitely not a silly question. The answer is simply yes. You can
> even use both of them in both operating systems if you want.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Heinz,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 2:42:55 PM, you wrote:

HS> before giving up I'd say let's look into your xorg.conf first. There's a
HS> lot we could do regarding the stalling ATI drivers.

I'll wait see what happens when I get the new ATI drivers,I thought I had
them but I didn't so I unmerged them now. I did sync today but as Holly
said, they may take a while to appear.

HS> For sound - that's a total different issue. I assume you already plugged
HS> WinTV's audio out into your sound card's line in ;-)

I did manage to get it all working, xawtv was a dismal failure but I got
tvtime working perfectly with sound as well. Trouble is my system was very
unstable and kept crashing. I couldn't use my email application which is a
Windows app running under wine.

I'll try again later to see what version is available.

I'm quite pleased in a way, it proves that it will work given the correct
driver and settings. I was half tempted to copy ALL the Knoppix files over
but this wouldn't be Gentoo then.

I'm certainly not giving up on Gentoo, not only am I enjoying it immensely,
probably more than any other I've tried, but I got stage one bragging
rights as well :)

I do appreciate all the help from everyone, I just hope that someone asks a
question I can help with sometime.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread James Hiscock
> an ATI AIW-Radeon 9200 64MB AGP (that I haven't bothered trying to get
> working in Linux); 

...whoops... that should've been "that I haven't even bothered trying
to get the fancy TV stuff working in Linux, but everything else works
great"... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread James Hiscock
> And you normally can't have two graphic cards in one box. There might be
> some weird way though to have both an AGP card and a PCI one installed
> but I wouldn't bet on that.

This is horribly inaccurate: I currently have 4 in my desktop at home.
One built-in video card on the motherboard (AGP, disabled); an ATI
AIW-Radeon 9200 64MB AGP (that I haven't bothered trying to get
working in Linux); a Nvidia GeForce MX 440 64MB PCI; and an Nvidia
GeForce FX5200 128MB PCI.

...and I have all three of them (the ATI card and both Nvidia cards)
enabled & working in both Windows and Linux. It's not weird at all...
unless you find it weird having 3x 17" LCDs hooked up to a single
machine, with a desktop spanning all three monitors...?

(greedy, yes; silly, yes; but - even if I do say so myself - it _does_
look cool. ;)

... but now I'm straying horribly off-topic ...

>And if it's not a silly question (Which  bet it is) is it 
> possible to have two graphic cards
> installed... One for XP the other for Gentoo?

Definitely not a silly question. The answer is simply yes. You can
even use both of them in both operating systems if you want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Heinz Sporn
We're waiting for ATI drivers that fully support Xorg 6.8 which is the
latest stable Xorg release.

And you normally can't have two graphic cards in one box. There might be
some weird way though to have both an AGP card and a PCI one installed
but I wouldn't bet on that.

Am Montag, den 17.01.2005, 14:25 + schrieb Tony Boom:
> Hello Holly,
> 
> Monday, January 17, 2005, 2:12:18 PM, you wrote:
> 
> HB> So it's not you, Tony we both made a poor buying decision and now 
> HB> are paying the price for it. Hopefully it will all be better soon.
> 
>  I only bought my Radeon 9600xt 3 days before Christmas. My Wife bought me
>  Medal of Honour and it wouldn't run with my Nvidia card so I paid £130 for
>  the new card thinking it was the mutts nutts.
> 
>  What version of ATI drivers are we waiting for? And if it's not a silly
>  question (Which  bet it is) is it possible to have two graphic cards
>  installed... One for XP the other for Gentoo?
> 
>  shouldn't think there is a lot else I can do today, I just emerged
>  OpenOffice 1.1.4 and the download itself is very slow so it may be an all
>  nighter :(
>  
> 
>  What version of SuSE you using?
>  
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Holly,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 2:12:18 PM, you wrote:

HB> So it's not you, Tony we both made a poor buying decision and now 
HB> are paying the price for it. Hopefully it will all be better soon.

 I only bought my Radeon 9600xt 3 days before Christmas. My Wife bought me
 Medal of Honour and it wouldn't run with my Nvidia card so I paid £130 for
 the new card thinking it was the mutts nutts.

 What version of ATI drivers are we waiting for? And if it's not a silly
 question (Which  bet it is) is it possible to have two graphic cards
 installed... One for XP the other for Gentoo?

 shouldn't think there is a lot else I can do today, I just emerged
 OpenOffice 1.1.4 and the download itself is very slow so it may be an all
 nighter :(
 

 What version of SuSE you using?
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Heinz Sporn
Tony,

before giving up I'd say let's look into your xorg.conf first. There's a
lot we could do regarding the stalling ATI drivers.

For sound - that's a total different issue. I assume you already plugged
WinTV's audio out into your sound card's line in ;-) 
Then we should check what sound card you're using, ALSA config and so
forth. Let's strangle that beast!

Am Montag, den 17.01.2005, 15:12 +0100 schrieb Holly Bostick:
> Tony Boom wrote:
> > Hello Tony,
> > 
> > Monday, January 17, 2005, 11:38:37 AM, you wrote:
> > 
> > TB> At least progress is being made.
> > 
> > Got xawtv working with sound but can't use wine, the monitor just turns off
> > and the system locks if I try.
> 
> That, afaik, is an ATI driver problem-- the same thing happens to me 
> with 3.14.6 (the monitor goes on standby, must reboot to get a display 
> back). Hoping this will be resolved with the new drivers (or, unless you 
> want to play Doom 3, you can drop back to 3.14.1; 3.14.6 was mostly just 
> a hotfix to enable ATI users to play that particular game, which 
> otherwise crashed-- otherwise there are no changes from 3.14.1).
> > 
> > If I load the fancy config file created with the ATI config program I can
> > run tvtime but if I stop it, the monitor dies and PC locks up.
> > 
> > So I unmerged the ATI drivers and although  have no TV, my system is
> > stable.
> 
> You begin to see why people are waiting very very avidly for the 8.08 
> drivers due today. The ATI drivers are *really bad*. The badness of the 
> drivers is actually the reason I installed SuSE when I broke Gentoo and 
> needed an Alternative install system to reinstall from-- ATI works 
> directly with SuSE to repackage the drivers for their distribution, so 
> other than RedHat (for which the drivers are designed; and I mean 
> RedHat, not Fedora or RHEL, RedHat 9, which I despised), the most 
> "reliable" temporary distro for me to evaluate the new drivers on is SuSE.
> 
> So it's not you, Tony we both made a poor buying decision and now 
> are paying the price for it. Hopefully it will all be better soon.
> 
> (I'm not bitter)
> 
> Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello Tony,
Monday, January 17, 2005, 11:38:37 AM, you wrote:
TB> At least progress is being made.
Got xawtv working with sound but can't use wine, the monitor just turns off
and the system locks if I try.
That, afaik, is an ATI driver problem-- the same thing happens to me 
with 3.14.6 (the monitor goes on standby, must reboot to get a display 
back). Hoping this will be resolved with the new drivers (or, unless you 
want to play Doom 3, you can drop back to 3.14.1; 3.14.6 was mostly just 
a hotfix to enable ATI users to play that particular game, which 
otherwise crashed-- otherwise there are no changes from 3.14.1).
If I load the fancy config file created with the ATI config program I can
run tvtime but if I stop it, the monitor dies and PC locks up.
So I unmerged the ATI drivers and although  have no TV, my system is
stable.
You begin to see why people are waiting very very avidly for the 8.08 
drivers due today. The ATI drivers are *really bad*. The badness of the 
drivers is actually the reason I installed SuSE when I broke Gentoo and 
needed an Alternative install system to reinstall from-- ATI works 
directly with SuSE to repackage the drivers for their distribution, so 
other than RedHat (for which the drivers are designed; and I mean 
RedHat, not Fedora or RHEL, RedHat 9, which I despised), the most 
"reliable" temporary distro for me to evaluate the new drivers on is SuSE.

So it's not you, Tony we both made a poor buying decision and now 
are paying the price for it. Hopefully it will all be better soon.

(I'm not bitter)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 11:38:37 AM, you wrote:

TB> At least progress is being made.

Got xawtv working with sound but can't use wine, the monitor just turns off
and the system locks if I try.

If I load the fancy config file created with the ATI config program I can
run tvtime but if I stop it, the monitor dies and PC locks up.

So I unmerged the ATI drivers and although  have no TV, my system is
stable.

Think I'll give up on TV... Or put SuSE back on and put Gentoo on my
Toshiba Laptop.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Heinz,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 9:45:57 AM, you wrote:

HS> I'd say that's the right spirit! As I mentioned in an earlier post the
HS> Hauppauge Win TV PCI + xawtv / tvtime (you may want to try that one -
HS> it's much better IMHO) is running perfectly in my box.

I've loaded the new driver from ATI, I assume it's the new one. With it I
can run xawtv but it's very jittery unless I use a small window. I have no
sound yet either.

If I run fglrxconfig and then use the config file that creates I can run
tvtime again with no sound. However closing tvtime or trying to run xawtv
causes the monitor to turn off and the reset button is the only option.

If I reload my normal xorg.conf file tvtime won't run but xawtv will.

At least progress is being made.

Oh almost forgot, the only way I could program a channel into xawtv was to
set it in tvtime... Very odd.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Heinz Sporn
I'd say that's the right spirit! As I mentioned in an earlier post the
Hauppauge Win TV PCI + xawtv / tvtime (you may want to try that one -
it's much better IMHO) is running perfectly in my box.

The obvious fact that you're having problems with ATI drivers now is
really sad - but at least you're not alone with THAT issue - I'm waiting
for these damn new drivers as well. Fortunately I'm using Nvidia cards
on almost 99% of my machines.

Good luck!

Am Montag, den 17.01.2005, 09:33 + schrieb Tony Boom:
> Hello Holly,
> 
> Monday, January 17, 2005, 1:42:27 AM, you wrote:
> 
> HB> this functionality is only provided by the ATI binary drivers from ATI
> HB> themselves (closed source driver).
> 
> You'll have to forgive my ignorance Holly but are these dedicated ATI
> drivers on the live Knoppix CD, it works perfectly when I boot off of that?
> 
> I'll read the rest of my mail, sync portage and then try and get the ATI
> drivers you speak of.
> 
> People keep telling me to  give up and put SuSE back on here because that
> works... Where's the fun in that? Gentoo works as well, it's just that you
> get to find out how it works while getting it to work. I imagine SuSE works
> the same way so knowing that enhances my knowledge of my SuSE laptop.
> 
> I'm just glad I found a list as friendly as my email client list.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Nick,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 1:54:46 AM, you wrote:

NR> perhaps if you are in linux Holly you
NR> could do a man xawtv and spell out the option to Tony :-)

I didn't need anyone to spell it out for me, I tried the no overlay option
with xawtv and got exactly the same errors.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Dave,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 1:44:51 AM, you wrote:

DN> Tony's problems (as I understand them) have been kernel-related, not config
DN> for the programs themselves.

Does it matter that I have bttv compiled directly into the kernel and not a
a module?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Holly,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 1:42:27 AM, you wrote:

HB> this functionality is only provided by the ATI binary drivers from ATI
HB> themselves (closed source driver).

You'll have to forgive my ignorance Holly but are these dedicated ATI
drivers on the live Knoppix CD, it works perfectly when I boot off of that?

I'll read the rest of my mail, sync portage and then try and get the ATI
drivers you speak of.

People keep telling me to  give up and put SuSE back on here because that
works... Where's the fun in that? Gentoo works as well, it's just that you
get to find out how it works while getting it to work. I imagine SuSE works
the same way so knowing that enhances my knowledge of my SuSE laptop.

I'm just glad I found a list as friendly as my email client list.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Nick Rout wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:48:12 +0100
Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Holly Bostick wrote:
Since you
have a separate TV-tuner card, unrelated to ATI, those drivers are not 
any use to me 
This should, of course, have been, "those drivers are not any use to you".
As a final note, I consider it a good sign that you now have progression 
of your error messages. In other words, since you didn't get any errors 
from the TV card itself, that's probably working. The process has moved 
forward to the point that it's trying to feed the TV input to the video 
card for display, which strongly suggests that the TV card is now ok, 
even though the process of displaying that input is still failing.
yep, but remember that error was from tvtime which requires a LOT more
than xawtv in terms of graphics abilities. thats why suggested trying
xawtv again, disabling overlay. perhaps if you are in linux Holly you
could do a man xawtv and spell out the option to Tony :-)
I would (really, I would; I do stuff like that), but 1) I don't have 
xawtv installed; 2) I'm not going to install it under SuSE, and I'm 
going to be in SuSE for another week at least (testing the new ATI 
drivers, and it has occurred to me that I might just as well wait for 
2005.0 before reinstalling Gentoo, though if it's going to take much 
longer than that week, I'll go mad); and 3) I don't even have the Gatos 
TV-in drivers for my card installed (because I just heard about them a 
couple of days ago, and I'm not sure I want to install them under SuSE 
before the new ATI drivers come out).

But I can do this:
http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_xawtv.htm
http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_xawtvrc.htm
http://linux.bytesex.org/xawtv/faq3.html
Hope that will be helpful :-) .
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:48:12 +0100
Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Holly Bostick wrote:
> Since you
> > have a separate TV-tuner card, unrelated to ATI, those drivers are not 
> > any use to me 
> 
> This should, of course, have been, "those drivers are not any use to you".
> 
> As a final note, I consider it a good sign that you now have progression 
> of your error messages. In other words, since you didn't get any errors 
> from the TV card itself, that's probably working. The process has moved 
> forward to the point that it's trying to feed the TV input to the video 
> card for display, which strongly suggests that the TV card is now ok, 
> even though the process of displaying that input is still failing.

yep, but remember that error was from tvtime which requires a LOT more
than xawtv in terms of graphics abilities. thats why suggested trying
xawtv again, disabling overlay. perhaps if you are in linux Holly you
could do a man xawtv and spell out the option to Tony :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Holly Bostick wrote:
Since you
have a separate TV-tuner card, unrelated to ATI, those drivers are not 
any use to me 
This should, of course, have been, "those drivers are not any use to you".
As a final note, I consider it a good sign that you now have progression 
of your error messages. In other words, since you didn't get any errors 
from the TV card itself, that's probably working. The process has moved 
forward to the point that it's trying to feed the TV input to the video 
card for display, which strongly suggests that the TV card is now ok, 
even though the process of displaying that input is still failing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Mica Mijatovic wrote:
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Was Sun, 16 Jan 2005, at 20:46:39 +,
when Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Tony,

Sunday, January 16, 2005, 5:52:31 PM, you wrote:
TB>> No, it doesn't work at all.
And it still Doesn't. Anyone tell me what this lot means and what to do
about it please.

bash-2.05b$ tvtime
Running tvtime 0.9.12.
Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
Reading configuration from /home/tony/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.

*** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
*** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
*** this capability is only available with their binary drivers.
*** For some ATI cards, this feature may be found in the experimental
*** GATOS drivers: http://gatos.souceforge.net/
*** If unsure, please check with your distribution to see if your
*** X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces.
Is there some "generic" TV card, as the Vesa is for video?
This error is no longer about the TV card itself, it's about the 
graphics card that has to display the captured images from the TV tuner 
card's decoder on your monitor, which is then the regular graphics card, 
since the TV card is separate in this case. The ability to display those 
type of images needs 3D acceleration functions not provided by the VESA 
driver-- and for this particular video card, this functionality is only 
provided by the ATI binary drivers from ATI themselves (closed source 
driver).

Btw, just as a note Tony, ignore the reference to the GATOS project, 
even though it mentions ATI cards-- the "some" cards meant are the 
All-In-Wonder cards (like my AIW 9800SE), or the other ATI cards that 
combine the TV card and regular graphics card in one device. Since you 
have a separate TV-tuner card, unrelated to ATI, those drivers are not 
any use to me (but they may be of use to me, although I hear that the 
newly-released r200 series driver for the current AIW chips does not yet 
have sound implemented, so not *much* use as yet ;-) ).

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:11:44 +0100
Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> > Hello Tony,
> 
> > Sunday, January 16, 2005, 5:52:31 PM, you wrote:
> 
> TB>> No, it doesn't work at all.
> 
> > And it still Doesn't. Anyone tell me what this lot means and what to do
> > about it please.
> 
> 
> > bash-2.05b$ tvtime
> > Running tvtime 0.9.12.
> > Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
> > Reading configuration from /home/tony/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
> > xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
> 
> > *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
> > *** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
> > *** this capability is only available with their binary drivers.
> > *** For some ATI cards, this feature may be found in the experimental
> > *** GATOS drivers: http://gatos.souceforge.net/
> > *** If unsure, please check with your distribution to see if your
> > *** X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces.
> 
> Is there some "generic" TV card, as the Vesa is for video?

well the closest would be the bt848/878 chip based devices, which
were/are pretty common. they work with the bttv driver. they are however
combined with many different tuners etc.

> 

> 
> So, would that help if you would copy your config files for TV card from
> SuSE to the Gentoo?

there really are no config files for bttv, other than the options given
to bttv (which you can establish by modinfo bttv)

there are options for the programs that utilise the v4l device created
by the driver, such as the options for xawtv that have been dscussed in
this thread.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Nebinger
> So, would that help if you would copy your config files for TV card from
> SuSE to the Gentoo?

Tony's problems (as I understand them) have been kernel-related, not config
for the programs themselves.



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[gentoo-user] Re: BT848 driver.

2005-01-16 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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Was Sun, 16 Jan 2005, at 20:46:39 +,
when Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello Tony,

> Sunday, January 16, 2005, 5:52:31 PM, you wrote:

TB>> No, it doesn't work at all.

> And it still Doesn't. Anyone tell me what this lot means and what to do
> about it please.


> bash-2.05b$ tvtime
> Running tvtime 0.9.12.
> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
> Reading configuration from /home/tony/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
> xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.

> *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
> *** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
> *** this capability is only available with their binary drivers.
> *** For some ATI cards, this feature may be found in the experimental
> *** GATOS drivers: http://gatos.souceforge.net/
> *** If unsure, please check with your distribution to see if your
> *** X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces.

Is there some "generic" TV card, as the Vesa is for video?

I never could get my S3 video card to work fully and properly, and
always am configuring video for vesa, so I get with it all I need.

Similarly with sound: I am just getting the chipset of motherboard from
MB manual (or nearest one), I have an on-board AC97, and it works with
any "generic" driver. (Eg. MB chipset is 815, but it works fine with 810
driver.)

More detailed "tweaking" and fumbling I leave for "better times". (-: I
mean when I already have a functional system, and someday really need
some "features" brought only by exact driver.

Then, I usually am prone to do pretty rural and mean things with
non-functional new Linux installations: I just copy, for instance,
XF86Config from one Linux to the new one. (-;

So, would that help if you would copy your config files for TV card from
SuSE to the Gentoo?

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