Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
On 2003.10.13 19:09, Daniel Wood wrote: [snip] > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 15:23, Ernie Schroder wrote: > assuming Knoppix did boot and see the sata drives, uname will tell you > the kernel vision and cat /proc/config will show you the config of > the running kernel. Seems to me to be worth a shot. I'm downloading KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-24-EN.iso now; 708megs to go. I'll post back with that information. If I assume that the Knoppix detects the drives and I get their kernel version and config, how do I actually go about using that information? Remember, the machine has no accessible harddrive and nothing installed... Since I've got time (lots of time) while the iso downloads, I'm just trying to see my way through this. Will I be able to 'unmount' the Knoppix cd, jam in the gentoo cd, and pick up at step 6 of the installation? Thanks again everyone. Better yet, you should be able to do the install from the knoppix cd. I doubt the knoppix cd would eject anyway while running, as the / filesystem is a loopback file on the cd, and the drive is thus in use. But all you need on the boot cd is partitioning and chroot'ing abilities, and some other simple utilities that should be there (like tar). You can download the stageX tarball from a mirror from in knoppix. -- Chris I Lockwood's Long Shot: The chances of getting eaten up by a lion on Main Street aren't one in a million, but once would be enough. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
> On Monday 13 October 2003 05:05 pm, Daniel Wood wrote: > > Thanks for the replies, and sorry for the confusion... > > > > Brett : the issue is actually step 6 of the installation where I > > cannot see my sata drives to partition, etc. > > > > So to be clear here it is : > > > > I have a Biostar IDEQ 200N with a VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller > > in it. > > > > the machine has two, completely blank, new sata drives plugged into > > channel0 and channel1 of SATA controller and a dvd player/recorder. > > > > I stick in the live-cd, it boots nicely (looks great btw), and I > > end up at root's bash prompt. Networking working great, things > > look good. > > > > At this point, according to step 6 of the install > > (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap6), I > > need to fdisk to create partitions. A the rub, I don't have > > any hard-drives showing up in /dev. I've got /dev/hdc -> dvd > > player, but that's it. > > > > My fairly safe guess is that the VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller > > isn't 'detected' and thus, neither are my drives. My > > googling/foruming/MI has indicated that there are other kernels > > which *might* detect this controller. > > > > But... how to use? > > > > If I cannot have access to the drives at all, what--if > > anything--can I do to actually use an alternative kernel (i.e. one > > that's not on the liveCD)? > > > > I thought about the knopplix (sp?) boot disk to see if it detected > > the controller (people seem to indicate that it detects alot of > > hardware), but then I wouldn't know what to do if it did :) > > > > Now, as I write this, one additional thing comes to mind: > > > > If I choose to boot the smp-nofb kernel, I get an additional > > message during bootup. I'm not at the computer now, so I cannot > > even confirm that it is at all related, but I recall it saying > > something about something-something IRQ 7 something-something > > (that's embarrassing, but that's all I can recall). > > > > Thanks in advance everyone! > > daniel > > > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 13:27, brett holcomb wrote: > > > During the install you are given a chance to build a > > > kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" > > > emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels > > > available. [snip] > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 15:23, Ernie Schroder wrote: > assuming Knoppix did boot and see the sata drives, uname will tell you > the kernel vision and cat /proc/config will show you the config of > the running kernel. Seems to me to be worth a shot. I'm downloading KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-24-EN.iso now; 708megs to go. I'll post back with that information. If I assume that the Knoppix detects the drives and I get their kernel version and config, how do I actually go about using that information? Remember, the machine has no accessible harddrive and nothing installed... Since I've got time (lots of time) while the iso downloads, I'm just trying to see my way through this. Will I be able to 'unmount' the Knoppix cd, jam in the gentoo cd, and pick up at step 6 of the installation? Thanks again everyone. -daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
On Monday 13 October 2003 05:05 pm, Daniel Wood wrote: > Thanks for the replies, and sorry for the confusion... > > Brett : the issue is actually step 6 of the installation where I > cannot see my sata drives to partition, etc. > > So to be clear here it is : > > I have a Biostar IDEQ 200N with a VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller > in it. > > the machine has two, completely blank, new sata drives plugged into > channel0 and channel1 of SATA controller and a dvd player/recorder. > > I stick in the live-cd, it boots nicely (looks great btw), and I > end up at root's bash prompt. Networking working great, things > look good. > > At this point, according to step 6 of the install > (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap6), I > need to fdisk to create partitions. A the rub, I don't have > any hard-drives showing up in /dev. I've got /dev/hdc -> dvd > player, but that's it. > > My fairly safe guess is that the VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller > isn't 'detected' and thus, neither are my drives. My > googling/foruming/MI has indicated that there are other kernels > which *might* detect this controller. > > But... how to use? > > If I cannot have access to the drives at all, what--if > anything--can I do to actually use an alternative kernel (i.e. one > that's not on the liveCD)? > > I thought about the knopplix (sp?) boot disk to see if it detected > the controller (people seem to indicate that it detects alot of > hardware), but then I wouldn't know what to do if it did :) > > Now, as I write this, one additional thing comes to mind: > > If I choose to boot the smp-nofb kernel, I get an additional > message during bootup. I'm not at the computer now, so I cannot > even confirm that it is at all related, but I recall it saying > something about something-something IRQ 7 something-something > (that's embarrassing, but that's all I can recall). > > Thanks in advance everyone! > daniel > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 13:27, brett holcomb wrote: > > During the install you are given a chance to build a > > kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" > > emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels > > available. > > > > On 13 Oct 2003 13:13:42 -0700 > > > > Daniel Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: > > > > > >I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question > > >is... > > > > > >How do I get to use that kernel during the initial > > >installation? The > > >live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them > > >support the sata > > >controller, how do I go about using another one for the > > >initial > > >installation? > > > > > >Thanks for your help! > > >daniel > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list assuming Knoppix did boot and see the sata drives, uname will tell you the kernel vision and cat /proc/config will show you the config of the running kernel. Seems to me to be worth a shot. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
Thanks for the replies, and sorry for the confusion... Brett : the issue is actually step 6 of the installation where I cannot see my sata drives to partition, etc. So to be clear here it is : I have a Biostar IDEQ 200N with a VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller in it. the machine has two, completely blank, new sata drives plugged into channel0 and channel1 of SATA controller and a dvd player/recorder. I stick in the live-cd, it boots nicely (looks great btw), and I end up at root's bash prompt. Networking working great, things look good. At this point, according to step 6 of the install (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap6), I need to fdisk to create partitions. A the rub, I don't have any hard-drives showing up in /dev. I've got /dev/hdc -> dvd player, but that's it. My fairly safe guess is that the VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller isn't 'detected' and thus, neither are my drives. My googling/foruming/MI has indicated that there are other kernels which *might* detect this controller. But... how to use? If I cannot have access to the drives at all, what--if anything--can I do to actually use an alternative kernel (i.e. one that's not on the liveCD)? I thought about the knopplix (sp?) boot disk to see if it detected the controller (people seem to indicate that it detects alot of hardware), but then I wouldn't know what to do if it did :) Now, as I write this, one additional thing comes to mind: If I choose to boot the smp-nofb kernel, I get an additional message during bootup. I'm not at the computer now, so I cannot even confirm that it is at all related, but I recall it saying something about something-something IRQ 7 something-something (that's embarrassing, but that's all I can recall). Thanks in advance everyone! daniel On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 13:27, brett holcomb wrote: > During the install you are given a chance to build a > kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" > emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels > available. > > On 13 Oct 2003 13:13:42 -0700 > Daniel Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: > > > >I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question > >is... > > > >How do I get to use that kernel during the initial > >installation? The > >live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them > >support the sata > >controller, how do I go about using another one for the > >initial > >installation? > > > >Thanks for your help! > >daniel > > > > > > > >-- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Daniel Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
Could be. It wasn't clear to me. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:31:12 -0500 "Jeffrey Smelser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think he is talking FOR the installation. If the kernel that is on the live cd doesn't support what he wants, can he choose another.. being I never have used a cd. I can't help.. Just trying to clear up the question.. Am I correct? During the install you are given a chance to build a kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels available. >How do I get to use that kernel during the initial >installation? The >live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them >support the sata >controller, how do I go about using another one for the >initial >installation? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
I think he is talking FOR the installation. If the kernel that is on the live cd doesn't support what he wants, can he choose another.. being I never have used a cd. I can't help.. Just trying to clear up the question.. Am I correct? > > During the install you are given a chance to build a > kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" > emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels > available. > > >How do I get to use that kernel during the initial > >installation? The > >live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them > >support the sata > >controller, how do I go about using another one for the > >initial > >installation? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
During the install you are given a chance to build a kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels available. On 13 Oct 2003 13:13:42 -0700 Daniel Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question is... How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? Thanks for your help! daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:46:35 -0700, Daniel Wood wrote: > > > > > > So the mistake I made is that I'm not interested in using the RAID > > hardware controller, just the sata drives, but I didn't notice that this > > unit's sata support is with a RAID controller. > > > > It seems like some of the other kernels might have support for this, but I > > don't know how to get to that point. > > > The changelog for kernel 2.6.0-test5 shows: > ide: add very basic support for VIA 8237 SATA controller > > I am currently using 2.6.0-test7 without any problems but i dont have SATA > drives.So you might want to give test7 a try. > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Thanks mikpolniak! I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question is... How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? Thanks for your help! daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:46:35 -0700, Daniel Wood wrote: > > So the mistake I made is that I'm not interested in using the RAID > hardware controller, just the sata drives, but I didn't notice that this > unit's sata support is with a RAID controller. > > It seems like some of the other kernels might have support for this, but I > don't know how to get to that point. > The changelog for kernel 2.6.0-test5 shows: ide: add very basic support for VIA 8237 SATA controller I am currently using 2.6.0-test7 without any problems but i dont have SATA drives.So you might want to give test7 a try. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
