Re: [gentoo-user] '[Masked]' packages - another newbie question...

2005-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:09:26 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote:

> > Can someone explain (or point me to a document which explains) exactly
> > what the implications of the 'Masked' annotation...
> 
> Masked means, as you assumed, that it is not considered 'production
> ready' under gentoo.  Could mean that it hasn't been fully tested yet,
> could mean that there are issues with it, or it could simply mean that
> it is dependant upon some other package that is masked for similar
> reasons.

That is only one type of masking. In addition a package can be hard
masked, in which case it is listed in /usr/portage/profile/package.mask
along with the reasons for masking. It could also be masked because it
does not run on your architecture.

While the output from emerge --search only states that a package is
masked, trying top emerge it will give more info. Or you can look it up on
http://packages.gentoo.org


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Re: [gentoo-user] '[Masked]' packages - another newbie question...

2005-03-30 Thread David D. Rea
On Wed, March 30, 2005 8:57 am, Digby Tarvin said:
> If, as I assume, it means that it will not install by default because
> it is not yet stable, where can I find out what the known problems
> on gentoo are, what considerations are then which should be taken
> into account when deciding if I really want to risk it or not, and
> if I do decide I need it, how to I override the mask???
>
> Any advice (or pointers to the description I couldn't find in the
> documentation) appreciated...

See the section "Masked Packages" about 70% down on this page:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1

For specific information about the masked version, go to
http://packages.gentoo.org/, search for the package, and click the version
number about whose mask you're interested.

Unfortunately, Kylixlibs3-borqt isn't the greatest example since there
isn't much information provided. For a better example, check out the
changelog for nxserver-personal.

http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/net-misc/nxserver-personal/ChangeLog

Best Regards,
Dave

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RE: [gentoo-user] '[Masked]' packages - another newbie question...

2005-03-30 Thread Dave Nebinger
> Can someone explain (or point me to a document which explains) exactly
> what the implications of the 'Masked' annotation...

Masked means, as you assumed, that it is not considered 'production ready'
under gentoo.  Could mean that it hasn't been fully tested yet, could mean
that there are issues with it, or it could simply mean that it is dependant
upon some other package that is masked for similar reasons.

That said, for most things outside of the sys-* entries I've found it safe
to use masked packages (as long as you don't complain if your system blows
up because you're using them ;-)

> where can I find out what the known problems on gentoo are, what
> considerations are then which should be taken into account when deciding 
> if I really want to risk it or not?

Not sure if this is really documented anywhere.  Masking doesn't mean that
there's necessarily problems with a release, it can mean that it hasn't been
fully tested yet.

> if I do decide I need it, how to I override the mask???

Add the package to /etc/portage/package.keywords in the form:

  x11-libs/kylixlibs3-borqt ~x86




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