Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-26 Thread Chris I
On 2003.06.25 17:25, A. Craig West wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Christopher Fisk wrote:

> I still wanted sendmail to be able to send directly to servers 
that > I was sending too and not go through the Road Runner Mail 
servers > > (They can be overloaded at times and I get faster e-mail 
service to > use my own outgoing server), while sending messages to 
those 2 > domains through the roadrunner servers transparently.

I've got a very similar setup, except with postfix. The one thing to
watch
out for is that some mail servers such as Rogers require SMTP
Authentication,
which is somewhat more complicated to set up. It's still not too bad,
though.
I would like to hear more of this setup, if you have the time.

-Chris I

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ceased
to love.
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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:05 am, William Hubbs wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to 
read either local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3 
server).
> 
> I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my 
linux box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail 
from my ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess 
they are attempting to block spam.
> 
> I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt 
to send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with 
anything.
> 
> Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?


Ther is a way, but it is a bit indirect. I habe this line in my .muttrc

set sendmail="/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t -C/home/paulcol/.mutt.cf"

The .mutt.cf file has my ISP's mail server set as a smart host. IIRC you 
also have to set yourself as a trusted user.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread A. Craig West
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Christopher Fisk wrote:

> I still wanted sendmail to be able to send directly to servers that I was 
> sending too and not go through the Road Runner Mail servers (They can be 
> overloaded at times and I get faster e-mail service to use my own outgoing 
> server), while sending messages to those 2 domains through the roadrunner 
> servers transparently.

I've got a very similar setup, except with postfix. The one thing to watch
out for is that some mail servers such as Rogers require SMTP Authentication,
which is somewhat more complicated to set up. It's still not too bad, though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 11:05, William Hubbs wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read
> either local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3 server).
>
> I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux
> box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my
> ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are
> attempting to block spam.
>
> I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt to
> send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with anything.
>
> Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> William
>
>
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This may not be an option for you, but it is what I have done.  I have 
upgraded my account to a business class -- Yes, it is about $150/month more 
for me (Cox).  It is well worth it, though: no blocked ports, business class 
IPs, static IPs, custom reverse DNS lookups for my IPs, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, William Hubbs wrote:

>I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux 
>box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my 
>ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are 
>attempting to block spam.

This is getting more and more common.  It used to be called the MAPS DUL 
(Dial Up List) and ISP's would block mail from machines that were in those 
lsits.

>Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?

Yes, I've noticed that AOL and Earthlink were either talking about doing 
it, or are doing in.  When I heard they were talking about it I configured 
sendmail to allow me to get around the problem.

I still wanted sendmail to be able to send directly to servers that I was 
sending too and not go through the Road Runner Mail servers (They can be 
overloaded at times and I get faster e-mail service to use my own outgoing 
server), while sending messages to those 2 domains through the roadrunner 
servers transparently.

In Sendmail this was an easy configuration:

First I made sure my sendmail.mc file had the following:

FEATURE(`mailertable', `hash /etc/mail/mailertable')dnl

to enable the mailertable in sendmail.

Then I created a /etc/mail/mailertable file with the following 2 lines:


aol.com smtp:mail.rochester.rr.com
earthlink.com   smtp:mail.rochester.rr.com


(You would of course use your ISP's mail server after the smtp:)


Now you create the mailertable database:

makemap hash mailertable  /etc/mail/sendmail.cf

then restart sendmail and any messages going to aol.com or earthlink.com 
will now go through your ISP mail server, while any other messages will go 
directly to their destination.


HTH,

Christopher Fisk
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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread wayne


Let me guess,  the ISP is AOL ???  You might want to try and find a 
forwarding/relaying server to send your mail thru that has a static ip.  I have 
seen this even on boxes that have static ip's.  

Quoting William Hubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read
> either local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3
> server).
> 
> I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux
> box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my
> ipaddress because it is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are
> attempting to block spam.
> 
> I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt
> to send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with
> anything.
> 
> Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> William
> 
> 
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RE: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht


> -Original Message-
> From: William Hubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:06 AM
> To: Gentoo Users
> Subject: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured
> to read either local email or email from my isp (connecting to
> their pop3 server).
>
> I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from
> my linux box, they bounce it and tell me that they will not
> receive mail from my ipaddress because it is a
> dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are attempting to block spam.
>
> I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure
> mutt to send mail through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come
> up with anything.
>
> Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> William
>

Hi,
   My contract with first AT&T and now Comcast says I cannot run any form of
a server from my home location. To enforce this they stop certain forms of
traffic, email and http on port 1080. Pretty standard problem as far as I
know. They don't stop http on other ports, and they don't stop ftp or ssh.

Mark



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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Juan Ángel
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Hi,
you could configure your exim to relay on your ISP MTA. In the exim doc there 
is great help to do so (and of course googlin')
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Re: [gentoo-user] ISPs blocking email from my linux box

2003-06-25 Thread Jayson Garrell
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 11:05, William Hubbs wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am running gentoo with exim as my mta.  I have mutt configured to read either 
> local email or email from my isp (connecting to their pop3 server).
> 
> I have found that when I try to send mail to a certain isp from my linux box, they 
> bounce it and tell me that they will not receive mail from my ipaddress because it 
> is a dynamic/residential address.  I guess they are attempting to block spam.
> 
> I looked in the mutt manual to see if it is possible to configure mutt to send mail 
> through my isp's smtp server, but I didn't come up with anything.
> 
> Has anyone else run into this?  How are you getting around it?
> 
Ya I have seen this also, If I remember correctly AOL is one of the
first to do this. I think that the anwser to your problem is to have
exim send the mail through your isp Exim calls it satellite email, I
think.

Jayson Garrell


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