Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
On 05/24/14 06:19, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Edward M wrote: On 5/23/2014 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Any suggestions appreciated. Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) OK, here is the link to the log excerpt: https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a656 i get a blue screen with owncloud and a message saying "this link does not seem to work anymore" with a few possible causes, item was removed, link removed, sharing is disabled Sorry, that one was wrong as well, here is the correct one which I have tested myself! https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a665 Yes, this works.
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
Edward M wrote: > > On 5/23/2014 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 > >> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >> > >>> Any suggestions appreciated. > >> Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? > >> > >> (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) > > OK, here is the link to the log excerpt: > > > > https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a656 > > >i get a blue screen with owncloud and a message saying "this link does > not seem to work anymore" >with a few possible causes, item was removed, link removed, sharing is > disabled Sorry, that one was wrong as well, here is the correct one which I have tested myself! https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a665 -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
Edward M wrote: > > On 5/23/2014 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 > >> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >> > >>> Any suggestions appreciated. > >> Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? > >> > >> (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) > > OK, here is the link to the log excerpt: > > > > https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a656 > > >i get a blue screen with owncloud and a message saying "this link does > not seem to work anymore" >with a few possible causes, item was removed, link removed, sharing is > disabled https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a65 Try that instead, sorry about that. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
On 5/23/2014 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Any suggestions appreciated. Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) OK, here is the link to the log excerpt: https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a656 i get a blue screen with owncloud and a message saying "this link does not seem to work anymore" with a few possible causes, item was removed, link removed, sharing is disabled
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? > > (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) OK, here is the link to the log excerpt: https://covici.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=7aa380dc7ff13da479331a425ce8a656 -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? > > (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) I have a segment from the regular logs not in reverse order, but I think it will go from start to end of gdm service. I will put it somewhere and update the thread a bit later today. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about to give up on systemd and gnome
walt wrote: > On 05/23/2014 12:50 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Hi. Well, I thought I was making progress with systemd, but my gnome > > session kept saying "oh no something has gone wrong" and would not > > work. Also, after such a thing has happened, all my consoles would keep > > using the last line to put every line and so I had to keep rebooting. > > And when I would reboot systemd would not behave the same way, sometimes > > it would hang at certain places, and sometimes it would go all the way > > through, but things would not start properly -- maybe a concurrency > > problem, but its hard to say what was going on. What a mess, but I > > guess I have a setup which systemd does not like, too much parallellism > > and no way to get things to start in the order I want them -- or at > > least none I could figure out! > > > > I am open to suggestions here, and I have a log segment I can put > > somewhere to illustrage the "oh no" problem, but I am getting tired of > > the mess and if I can find something which works with orca I will do > > that instead. > > I've spent many frustrating days fighting the "oh no" syndrome and I > found two very annoying workarounds before I gave up on gnome3. > > First, the file ~/.gnomerc-errors may give you some good hints. Many > of my "oh no" moments were caused by broken xorg 3D rendering support, > i.e. broken video drivers, etc, etc. > > Second, many other "oh no" moments were caused by $SOME_MYSTERIOUS > item in ~/.config or ~/.local suddenly rendered erroneous by a gnome3 > update. > > I found some of those problem items by renaming those two directories > and starting with a completely blank gnome3 slate. > > If gnome-shell starts okay with the new tabla rasa then you can copy > the old .local and .config subdirectories one by one into the new gnome > environment until you can reproduce the original breakage. Repeat as > needed. Thanks for the hint --I have no ~/.gnomerc-errors -- I have a .Xsession-errors, but it never told me anything useful. I may try your other suggestion next time I have the courage to boot into systemd. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:50:04 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Any suggestions appreciated. Can you provide the log segment from `journalctl -rb`? (-r puts it in reverse, -b restricts it to the current boot) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: about to give up on systemd and gnome
On 05/23/2014 12:50 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. Well, I thought I was making progress with systemd, but my gnome > session kept saying "oh no something has gone wrong" and would not > work. Also, after such a thing has happened, all my consoles would keep > using the last line to put every line and so I had to keep rebooting. > And when I would reboot systemd would not behave the same way, sometimes > it would hang at certain places, and sometimes it would go all the way > through, but things would not start properly -- maybe a concurrency > problem, but its hard to say what was going on. What a mess, but I > guess I have a setup which systemd does not like, too much parallellism > and no way to get things to start in the order I want them -- or at > least none I could figure out! > > I am open to suggestions here, and I have a log segment I can put > somewhere to illustrage the "oh no" problem, but I am getting tired of > the mess and if I can find something which works with orca I will do > that instead. I've spent many frustrating days fighting the "oh no" syndrome and I found two very annoying workarounds before I gave up on gnome3. First, the file ~/.gnomerc-errors may give you some good hints. Many of my "oh no" moments were caused by broken xorg 3D rendering support, i.e. broken video drivers, etc, etc. Second, many other "oh no" moments were caused by $SOME_MYSTERIOUS item in ~/.config or ~/.local suddenly rendered erroneous by a gnome3 update. I found some of those problem items by renaming those two directories and starting with a completely blank gnome3 slate. If gnome-shell starts okay with the new tabla rasa then you can copy the old .local and .config subdirectories one by one into the new gnome environment until you can reproduce the original breakage. Repeat as needed.
Re: [gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 03:50:04PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote > Hi. Well, I thought I was making progress with systemd, but my gnome > session kept saying "oh no something has gone wrong" and would not > work. Heads-up... Lennart has the ears of the Gnome developers. Recent Gnome will not work without systemd... period... end of story. If you stay away from systemd, you'll have to stay away from Gnome. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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[gentoo-user] about to give up on systemd and gnome
Hi. Well, I thought I was making progress with systemd, but my gnome session kept saying "oh no something has gone wrong" and would not work. Also, after such a thing has happened, all my consoles would keep using the last line to put every line and so I had to keep rebooting. And when I would reboot systemd would not behave the same way, sometimes it would hang at certain places, and sometimes it would go all the way through, but things would not start properly -- maybe a concurrency problem, but its hard to say what was going on. What a mess, but I guess I have a setup which systemd does not like, too much parallellism and no way to get things to start in the order I want them -- or at least none I could figure out! I am open to suggestions here, and I have a log segment I can put somewhere to illustrage the "oh no" problem, but I am getting tired of the mess and if I can find something which works with orca I will do that instead. Any suggestions appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags and Updating
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > I think nowadays one would prefer --keep-going, which automatically resumes on > failure (and recomputes the dependency tree!), and prints a list of failed > packages when it's finished. However its output is more verbose than just "ok" > and "failed" (it'll print the build.log if it's only one package, IIRC). Yup. Upon reflection the whole script can be replaced by: emerge -uvD --changed-use --color=n --with-bdeps=y --quiet-build --buildpkgonly --keep-going world | col -bx | mutt -s "world update" y...@example.com That will give you a decent report of what is new, build binary packages, do it in parallel, and not recompute dependencies for every package. Rich
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