[RESULT] Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
This contribution was accepted by the Apache Harmony community with  
unanimous support, and all documentation is complete.  This  
contribution and it's contribution information has been placed in the  
contrib archive (where it shall remain untouched) :


https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/harmony/enhanced/ 
contrib_archive/2005/jira/harmony-3


I've taken the liberty of placing in

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/harmony/enhanced/trunk/ 
sandbox/contribs/jchevm


so it's available in general, and work can begin.  We can rename,  
move, whatever.


So... again

"GO!"

:)

Thanks Archie, and all...

geir

On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License  
to Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :


http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Oct 2, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Leo Simons wrote:


On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 05:18:06PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License to
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[X] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.



Damn, late again!

Whoohooh, more code!

Leo, who thinks we should have at least an email template for a  
while that

 specifies what a vote is and who votes and why, and stuff :-)



Agreed.  I'm about to go through the acceptance of HARMONY-3 and will  
write down the simple procedure, and add the template into that.


geir


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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 05:18:06PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License to  
> Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3
> 
> [X] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
> [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :
> 
> This vote will close 72 hours from now.

Damn, late again!

Whoohooh, more code!

Leo, who thinks we should have at least an email template for a while that
 specifies what a vote is and who votes and why, and stuff :-)


Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Oct 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:




Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



On Oct 1, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:


Sorry, I wasn't referring to the mechanics of voting, but rather  
what

was being implied by the response from people on the list.

For example, I'd definitely +1 for getting relevant code in as  
seed  for

the project,




So did you?  :D



Well, no  ;-)  because I didn't understand exactly what approval was
being solicited.



So, to clarify :

 do you think we should bring Archie's contribution to the sandbox  
for people to work with?


:)

[ ] +1  Yes, I think that's great!
[ ] -1  No, reason :




so hearing about an incoming VM implementation or interface
design is excellent.  I guess that the PPMC are uniquely in a  
position
to ensure that 'bulk' contributions have the paperwork in order   
(ref the

contribution policy on the website).




Yes.  (And I'll update the policy docs to reflect better how  
things  are

working later this weekend...)



I've been looking through SVN, and now that I can see the completed
contrib_checklist for these pioneers I have a better understanding of
how this works; i.e. the community acceptance comes after the PPMC  
have

done a number of verifications.



Actually, no.  You were looking at David Tanzer's. (although I do  
have the docs from Archie as well...)


I was thinking that we'd vote before pounding out the paperwork so we  
don't make people go through the papework if the community doesn't  
want it, but I'm changing my mind and would happily  have the  
Authorized Contributor Questionnaire as well as the Bulk Contribution  
Checklist accepted by the PPMC before asking for a vote, because then  
people will be sure that the basic safeguards we want to have for  
exposure are in place.


Nothing stops someone from posting things to our JIRA, but the [vote]  
compels the community to download and examine the work to see how it  
fits, and by having the ACQ and BCC in place, they can be reasonably  
comfortable that we're doing our collective job on this aspect.



geir



Regards,
Tim




Again, not implying that this is wrong or anything, just learning.

Regards,
Tim


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but  
that  may

be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in
Kindergarten.  :-)

I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and  
make

counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants
discussion
yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you have, not  
the  ones

you might have.

-Andy

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:




That's good background.

If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/
harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.

(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments  
are

much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)

geir

On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:




Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what
does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within   
the

scope
of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to  
be on

file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a
first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety   
net

is in
place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:




+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the  
statement

found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement   
of   it

being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source
implementations
is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover  
an   issue

about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.

On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:






Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache
License  to
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Tim Ellison


Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
> On Oct 1, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, I wasn't referring to the mechanics of voting, but rather what
>> was being implied by the response from people on the list.
>>
>> For example, I'd definitely +1 for getting relevant code in as seed  for
>> the project,
> 
> 
> So did you?  :D

Well, no  ;-)  because I didn't understand exactly what approval was
being solicited.

>> so hearing about an incoming VM implementation or interface
>> design is excellent.  I guess that the PPMC are uniquely in a position
>> to ensure that 'bulk' contributions have the paperwork in order  (ref the
>> contribution policy on the website).
> 
> 
> Yes.  (And I'll update the policy docs to reflect better how things  are
> working later this weekend...)

I've been looking through SVN, and now that I can see the completed
contrib_checklist for these pioneers I have a better understanding of
how this works; i.e. the community acceptance comes after the PPMC have
done a number of verifications.

Regards,
Tim

>>
>> Again, not implying that this is wrong or anything, just learning.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but that  may
>>> be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in 
>>> Kindergarten.  :-)
>>>
>>> I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and make
>>> counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants 
>>> discussion
>>> yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you have, not the  ones
>>> you might have.
>>>
>>> -Andy
>>>
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
 That's good background.

 If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/
 harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.

 (But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments are
 much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)

 geir

 On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> Tim Ellison wrote:
>
>
>> Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what
>> does +1
>> mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within  the 
>> scope
>> of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
>> (authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on
>> file?
>> Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a
>> first-pass
>> IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety  net 
>> is in
>> place too.
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> +1 from me
>>>
>>> I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement
>>> found
>>> in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement  of   it
>>> being
>>> his original work based on exposure to only open-source
>>> implementations
>>> is fine for me.
>>>
>>> This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an   issue
>>> about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache
 License  to
 Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

 [ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
 [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

 This vote will close 72 hours from now.

 geir

 -- 
 Geir Magnusson Jr   +1-203-665-6437
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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> SuperLink Software, Inc.
>
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>
>


>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> IBM Java technology centre, UK.
>>
>>
> 

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Oct 1, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:


Sorry, I wasn't referring to the mechanics of voting, but rather what
was being implied by the response from people on the list.

For example, I'd definitely +1 for getting relevant code in as seed  
for

the project,


So did you?  :D


so hearing about an incoming VM implementation or interface
design is excellent.  I guess that the PPMC are uniquely in a position
to ensure that 'bulk' contributions have the paperwork in order  
(ref the

contribution policy on the website).


Yes.  (And I'll update the policy docs to reflect better how things  
are working later this weekend...)




Again, not implying that this is wrong or anything, just learning.

Regards,
Tim


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but that  
may
be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in  
Kindergarten.  :-)


I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and make
counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants  
discussion
yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you have, not the  
ones

you might have.

-Andy

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



That's good background.

If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/
harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.

(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments are
much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)

geir

On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:



Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what
does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within  
the  scope

of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on
file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a
first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety  
net  is in

place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement
found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement  
of   it

being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source
implementations
is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an   
issue

about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.

On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:





Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache
License  to
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs  
fixed.













--

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IBM Java technology centre, UK.




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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Tim Ellison
Sorry, I wasn't referring to the mechanics of voting, but rather what
was being implied by the response from people on the list.

For example, I'd definitely +1 for getting relevant code in as seed for
the project, so hearing about an incoming VM implementation or interface
design is excellent.  I guess that the PPMC are uniquely in a position
to ensure that 'bulk' contributions have the paperwork in order (ref the
contribution policy on the website).

Again, not implying that this is wrong or anything, just learning.

Regards,
Tim


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but that may
> be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in Kindergarten.  :-)
> 
> I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and make
> counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants discussion
> yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you have, not the ones
> you might have.
> 
> -Andy
> 
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
>> That's good background.
>>
>> If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/
>> harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.
>>
>> (But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments are 
>> much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>
>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>
 Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what 
 does +1
 mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within the  scope
 of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
 (authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on 
 file?
 Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a 
 first-pass
 IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety net  is in
 place too.
 Regards,
 Tim
 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> +1 from me
>
> I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement  
> found
> in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of   it
> being
> his original work based on exposure to only open-source  
> implementations
> is fine for me.
>
> This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an  issue
> about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.
>
> On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>
>
>> Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache 
>> License  to
>> Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3
>>
>> [ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
>> [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :
>>
>> This vote will close 72 hours from now.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> -- 
>> Geir Magnusson Jr  +1-203-665-6437
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>> SuperLink Software, Inc.
>>>
>>> Java to Excel using POI
>>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
>>> Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 

-- 

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IBM Java technology centre, UK.


Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Oct 1, 2005, at 1:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but  
that  may be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in   
Kindergarten.  :-)



There is no "authoritative source" - projects get to choose the   
manner in which they run themselves, as that document itself  
says.   Certainly what we do will capture the spirit and for the  
most part,  the letter, of that document, but as I said, it notes  
that  communities have flexibility.




Okay.  Yeah in the future I'll reply with the link to the  
"guidelines" document.


I suggest that the sandbox be generally commit then review than  
review then commit with the caveat of "be considerate of others"  
when making changes.


Agreed.

I think that even outside of the sandbox, commit then review except  
when it's something weird, tricky, sensitive, etc - people can use  
their best judgement.  IOW, "don't be a cowboy".  I suspect that as  
we get much much further along (like v1.0), we may want a RthenC like  
http does for stable tree





I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and   
make counting more difficult.  However I don't think this  
warrants  discussion yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve  
problems you  have, not the ones you might have.


Maybe I'm too old school and like a little upfront design to keep  
you  out of trouble ;)




BUFD, SDLC and CMM are all cuss words to me.


I think that "a little upfront design" isn't quite what CMM is about.

geir




-andy



geir



-Andy

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



That's good background.
If theres something to be added here http:// 
incubator.apache.org/  harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.
(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments   
are  much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)

geir
On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:



Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education,  
what   does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within   
the  scope

of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to  
be  on  file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing  
a   first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety   
net  is in

place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:




+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the   
statement   found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement   
of   it being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source 
implementations

is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover  
an   issue about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:





Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache
License  to

Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

--
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+1-203-665-6437

[EMAIL PROTECTED]














--
Andrew C. Oliver
SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs  
fixed.








--
Andrew C. Oliver
SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed.






--
Andrew C. Oliver
SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed.




--
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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread acoliver

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but that  
may be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in  
Kindergarten.  :-)




There is no "authoritative source" - projects get to choose the  manner 
in which they run themselves, as that document itself says.   Certainly 
what we do will capture the spirit and for the most part,  the letter, 
of that document, but as I said, it notes that  communities have 
flexibility.




Okay.  Yeah in the future I'll reply with the link to the "guidelines" 
document.


I suggest that the sandbox be generally commit then review than review 
then commit with the caveat of "be considerate of others" when making 
changes.


I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and  make 
counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants  
discussion yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you  have, 
not the ones you might have.



Maybe I'm too old school and like a little upfront design to keep you  
out of trouble ;)


BUFD, SDLC and CMM are all cuss words to me.

-andy



geir



-Andy

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


That's good background.
If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/  
harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.
(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments  are  
much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)

geir
On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:


Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what   
does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within  the  
scope

of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be  on  
file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a   
first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety  net  
is in

place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the  
statement   found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement  of   
it being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source
implementations

is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an   
issue about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:




Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache   
License  to

Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]












--
Andrew C. Oliver
SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed.






--
Andrew C. Oliver
SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed.







--
Andrew C. Oliver
SuperLink Software, Inc.

Java to Excel using POI
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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but that  
may be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in  
Kindergarten.  :-)




There is no "authoritative source" - projects get to choose the  
manner in which they run themselves, as that document itself says.   
Certainly what we do will capture the spirit and for the most part,  
the letter, of that document, but as I said, it notes that  
communities have flexibility.


I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and  
make counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants  
discussion yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you  
have, not the ones you might have.


Maybe I'm too old school and like a little upfront design to keep you  
out of trouble ;)


geir



-Andy

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


That's good background.
If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/  
harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.
(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments  
are  much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)

geir
On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:


Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what   
does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within  
the  scope

of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be  
on  file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a   
first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety  
net  is in

place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the  
statement   found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement  
of   it being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source
implementations

is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an   
issue about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:




Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache   
License  to

Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread acoliver
I think we should refer people to the authorative source, but that may 
be a general bias on my part due to a game I played in Kindergarten.  :-)


I share your opinion on fractional votes...they are annoying and make 
counting more difficult.  However I don't think this warrants discussion 
yet.  Late refactoring is good.  Solve problems you have, not the ones 
you might have.


-Andy

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

That's good background.

If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/ 
harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.


(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments are  
much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)


geir

On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:


Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what  does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within the  scope
of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on  file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a  
first-pass

IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety net  is in
place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement   
found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of   it 
being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source   
implementations

is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an  issue 
about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache  
License  to

Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

That's good background.

If theres something to be added here http://incubator.apache.org/ 
harmony/guidelines.html, suggest it.


(But I really want to avoid fractional votes.  Written comments are  
much more expressive and avoid assumptions.)


geir

On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:

Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what  
does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within the  
scope

of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on  
file?
Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a  
first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety net  
is in

place too.
Regards,
Tim
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement   
found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of   
it being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source   
implementations

is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an  
issue about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache  
License  to

Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi
Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed.




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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread acoliver

See this http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Tim Ellison wrote:

Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within the scope
of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on file?

Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety net is in
place too.

Regards,
Tim

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement  found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of  it being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source  implementations
is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an issue 
about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:



Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License  to
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Oct 1, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Tim Ellison wrote:

Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what  
does +1

mean from people --


Generally +1 = yes, -1 = no, 0 = "don't care, but I'm telling you  
that because I'm paying attention".  I hope we can avoid the +0, -0  
stuff here.




is it simply that the code 'fits' within the scope
of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on  
file?


No - it means people want to accept the contribution into the  
project.  It's one step, and I think the first step.  The rest of the  
material must be done before bringing in of course, but in general, I  
don't think there's any point in going through that first if then the  
project wouldn't want the contribution.


So

1) we vote if we want the code
2) if so, it is brought into the SVN when documentation is complete,  
which is handled by the person from the PMC bringing it in




Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a first- 
pass

IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety net is in
place too.


Yes - there was a first pass sniff before the vote, in JIRA.  I  
commented on it, Archie answered, and Andy also looked around a bit,  
so I feel comfortable moving forward.  We have a few pieces of the  
safety net :


1) basic review in JIRA
2) set of agreements (ICLA, ASQ, BCC, etc)
3) brought into isolation in the contrib_archive for easy review at  
any point in future

4) in this case, brought into sandbox

I don't think we'll be bringing into sandbox always, but maybe that  
formal "hop" of unpacking in sandbox and then moving it elswhere  
isn't a bad idea.  Dunno.


geir



Regards,
Tim

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement   
found
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of  it  
being
his original work based on exposure to only open-source   
implementations

is fine for me.

This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an issue
about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.

On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache  
License  to

Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread Tim Ellison
Great to see this stuff coming in.  Just for my education, what does +1
mean from people -- is it simply that the code 'fits' within the scope
of the project?  does it mean that the relevant documentation
(authorized contrubutor questionnaire, ICLA, ?) is known to be on file?

Your resolved concern below implies that you are also doing a first-pass
IP sniff test, though I recognise that the sandboxing safety net is in
place too.

Regards,
Tim

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> +1 from me
> 
> I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement  found
> in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of  it being
> his original work based on exposure to only open-source  implementations
> is fine for me.
> 
> This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an issue 
> about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.
> 
> On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
>> Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License  to
>> Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3
>>
>> [ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
>> [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :
>>
>> This vote will close 72 hours from now.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> -- 
>> Geir Magnusson Jr  +1-203-665-6437
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
> 

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-10-01 Thread David Tanzer
+1 (non-binding)

On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:43 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> +1 from me
> 
> I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement  
> found in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of  
> it being his original work based on exposure to only open-source  
> implementations is fine for me.
> 
> This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an issue  
> about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.
> 
> On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
> > Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License  
> > to Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :
> >
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3
> >
> > [ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
> > [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :
> >
> > This vote will close 72 hours from now.
> >
> > geir
> >
> > -- 
> > Geir Magnusson Jr  +1-203-665-6437
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-09-30 Thread acoliver

+1 code.

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement  found 
in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of  it being 
his original work based on exposure to only open-source  implementations 
is fine for me.


This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an issue  
about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License  to 
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :


http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-09-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

+1 from me

I was concerned about the provenance given some of the statement  
found in the contribution, but Archie's explanation and statement of  
it being his original work based on exposure to only open-source  
implementations is fine for me.


This is going into the sandbox - if we happen to discover an issue  
about this in the near future, we can simply fix it.


On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License  
to Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :


http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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RE: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-09-30 Thread Dan Lydick

+1 (non-binding)


Dan Lydick

> [Original Message]
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 9/30/05 4:18:14 PM
> Subject: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs'
Contribution of JCVM
>
> Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License to  
> Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3
> 
> [ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
> [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :
> 
> This vote will close 72 hours from now.
> 
> geir
> 
> -- 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 





Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-09-30 Thread John

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License to  
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :


http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir


+1

Regards
John


Re: [vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-09-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me.

On 9/30/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License to
> Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3
>
> [ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
> [ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :
>
> This vote will close 72 hours from now.
>
> geir
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr  +1-203-665-6437
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>


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[vote] Accept JIRA contribution HARMONY-3 : Archie Cobbs' Contribution of JCVM

2005-09-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Archie Cobbs has offered the JCVM project under the Apache License to  
Apache Harmony.  It can be found here :


http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-3

[ ] +1 Accept the code into the project sandbox
[ ] -1 Don't accept the code.  Reason :

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

geir

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