Re: GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006
Hi Leo, On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 05:40 -0800, Leo Simons wrote: > I don't recommend putting me near end users :-) :) Don't worry it is a developers conference. They will want to see code and if you show something that just works they will demand you explain how and why. For those who have not been to FOSDEM before it is a huge conference 2000 till 3000 people all around Free Software. We have just one developer room for around 75 people. It has traditionally been the yearly event were the core developers on the various Free Software implementations (classpath, kaffe, gcj, cacao, sablevm, etc) and related projects come together and discuss the future and cooperation. See http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/events.html and http://www.fosdem.org/ Cheers, Mark -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006
I'm planning to be there but can't commit to that for a while so can't commit to a talk either for a while. If I make it I'm happy to give a talk on Harmony or Gump or a lightning talk or how python is way cooler than java or whatever fits the theme (themes are good). I don't recommend putting me near end users :-) cheers! Leo
Re: GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006
Hi Geir, On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 22:50 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I'll definitely be there - thanks for the note, Mark. That would be fun. > Will you let us in the GNU Classpath hacker room though? :) Of course! As you might remember last year we had a special "Building Bridges" track were various people told about technical issues to get our communities closer together. Leo also gave a talk then: http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/escape_fosdem05.html It would be a great idea to make the theme this year "Harmony" and explicitly ask every speaker to not just talk about their own project, but how it fits in with the other similar free software projects. We always emphasize the value of a fully free software stack from top to bottom so there should be enough integration points. If you come and want to discuss, present or demo something please let us know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Mark -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006
I'll try to come too. David. On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 22:50 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I'll definitely be there - thanks for the note, Mark. > > Will you let us in the GNU Classpath hacker room though? :) > > geir > > On Nov 14, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Like the last couple of years we want to come together with all the > > projects around GNU Classpath and the various free runtimes, compiler > > and tool projects to discuss what has happened in the last year in the > > Free Software community and what the next year will bring us during > > FOSDEM. > > > > The 6th edition of FOSDEM (Free and Opensource Software Developers' > > European Meeting) will take place on February 25+26 2006 in Brussels > > (Belgium), at the Solbosch Campus of the ULB (Free University of > > Brussels). FOSDEM is a free and non-commercial event for the community > > and organized by the community. See http://www.fosdem.org/ > > > > We were thinking of the following setup: > > > > - Saturday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "End-User talks" presentations to > > promote what we all build together to a wider audience that might have > > heard of what we do, but haven't actually seen it in action/put > > together. We might also want to have a "lightning" hour with lots of > > quick Demos of applications running on a completely free stack (5 - 10 > > minutes per demo). > > > > - Sunday from 09:00 to 12:30 - "Developer talks" presentations of > > things > > that are in progress and that people want to explain in more depth to > > get developers of the other projects to join in a share the fun. > > > > - Sunday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "The Future" hard core interactive > > technical hacker discussions on how to integrate the projects more and > > move forward in the next year. > > > > Arnaud Vandyck, Dalibor Topic, Mark Wielaard, Michael Koch and and Tom > > Tromey will be our "program committee" this year. If you would like to > > present something, have an idea for a demo or discussion topic please > > let us know at fosdem-at-developer.classpath.org Please mention the > > title, a little abstract, which track and whether you want to do a > > quick > > demo, a short 30 min talk or full hour talk (we prefer 30 minute talks > > to give everybody a chance to present something). Deadline for > > proposals > > is December 18, so you have a month to think of something cool. > > Then we > > make sure to have some kind of "formal program" at the start of > > January. > > > > Examples of presentations and reports from previous years: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/escape_fosdem05.html > > http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/fosdem04.html > > > > Some ideas for interesting topics: > > - Free Swing - The Demo! > > - Your GNU/Linux distro and the free runtimes - package overview. > > - From 0 to 100 in 15 Minutes: Getting started with GNU Classpath > > development using Eclipse, JamVM, Mauve, and the ChangeLog plugin! > > - Integrating with Objectweb through native-(gcj)-JOnAS > > - Writing OpenOffice.org plugins using a free software stack. > > - Using GNU Classpath/gcj/kaffe for games > > - Using free runtimes on Wine and other win32 environments > > - Embedding GNU Classpath in web browsers and support for JNLP > > - Security Auditing! > > - 1.5 language support in GNU Classpath, gcjx and the free runtimes > > - GNU Classpath/OSGi/J2ME/Library splitting and trimming > > - Harmony through interfacing. > > - Beyond JAPI: what is needed to "really finish" GNU Classpath > > Or, "Beyond Java" -- what we can do when we finish 1.5. > > Or more generally some kind of presentation about development > > metrics: bug rates, rates of change in japi/lines of code/tests, > > email volume, stuff like that. > > - Debugging, JDWP development efforts. > > - etc. > > > > Hope to see you in Brussels on February 25 and 26 2006, > > > > Arnaud, Dalibor, Mark, Michael and Tom > > > > -- > > Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html > > > > Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ > > > -- David Tanzer, Haghofstr. 29, A-3352 St. Peter/Au, Austria/Europe http://deltalabs.at -- http://dev.guglhupf.net -- http://guglhupf.net My PGP Public Key: http://guglhupf.net/david/david.asc -- Meet John Brain Episode: Brain: Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering? Pinky: I think so, Brain, but this time, you put the trousers on the chimp. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006
I'll definitely be there - thanks for the note, Mark. Will you let us in the GNU Classpath hacker room though? :) geir On Nov 14, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi all, Like the last couple of years we want to come together with all the projects around GNU Classpath and the various free runtimes, compiler and tool projects to discuss what has happened in the last year in the Free Software community and what the next year will bring us during FOSDEM. The 6th edition of FOSDEM (Free and Opensource Software Developers' European Meeting) will take place on February 25+26 2006 in Brussels (Belgium), at the Solbosch Campus of the ULB (Free University of Brussels). FOSDEM is a free and non-commercial event for the community and organized by the community. See http://www.fosdem.org/ We were thinking of the following setup: - Saturday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "End-User talks" presentations to promote what we all build together to a wider audience that might have heard of what we do, but haven't actually seen it in action/put together. We might also want to have a "lightning" hour with lots of quick Demos of applications running on a completely free stack (5 - 10 minutes per demo). - Sunday from 09:00 to 12:30 - "Developer talks" presentations of things that are in progress and that people want to explain in more depth to get developers of the other projects to join in a share the fun. - Sunday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "The Future" hard core interactive technical hacker discussions on how to integrate the projects more and move forward in the next year. Arnaud Vandyck, Dalibor Topic, Mark Wielaard, Michael Koch and and Tom Tromey will be our "program committee" this year. If you would like to present something, have an idea for a demo or discussion topic please let us know at fosdem-at-developer.classpath.org Please mention the title, a little abstract, which track and whether you want to do a quick demo, a short 30 min talk or full hour talk (we prefer 30 minute talks to give everybody a chance to present something). Deadline for proposals is December 18, so you have a month to think of something cool. Then we make sure to have some kind of "formal program" at the start of January. Examples of presentations and reports from previous years: http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/escape_fosdem05.html http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/fosdem04.html Some ideas for interesting topics: - Free Swing - The Demo! - Your GNU/Linux distro and the free runtimes - package overview. - From 0 to 100 in 15 Minutes: Getting started with GNU Classpath development using Eclipse, JamVM, Mauve, and the ChangeLog plugin! - Integrating with Objectweb through native-(gcj)-JOnAS - Writing OpenOffice.org plugins using a free software stack. - Using GNU Classpath/gcj/kaffe for games - Using free runtimes on Wine and other win32 environments - Embedding GNU Classpath in web browsers and support for JNLP - Security Auditing! - 1.5 language support in GNU Classpath, gcjx and the free runtimes - GNU Classpath/OSGi/J2ME/Library splitting and trimming - Harmony through interfacing. - Beyond JAPI: what is needed to "really finish" GNU Classpath Or, "Beyond Java" -- what we can do when we finish 1.5. Or more generally some kind of presentation about development metrics: bug rates, rates of change in japi/lines of code/tests, email volume, stuff like that. - Debugging, JDWP development efforts. - etc. Hope to see you in Brussels on February 25 and 26 2006, Arnaud, Dalibor, Mark, Michael and Tom -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006
Hi all, Like the last couple of years we want to come together with all the projects around GNU Classpath and the various free runtimes, compiler and tool projects to discuss what has happened in the last year in the Free Software community and what the next year will bring us during FOSDEM. The 6th edition of FOSDEM (Free and Opensource Software Developers' European Meeting) will take place on February 25+26 2006 in Brussels (Belgium), at the Solbosch Campus of the ULB (Free University of Brussels). FOSDEM is a free and non-commercial event for the community and organized by the community. See http://www.fosdem.org/ We were thinking of the following setup: - Saturday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "End-User talks" presentations to promote what we all build together to a wider audience that might have heard of what we do, but haven't actually seen it in action/put together. We might also want to have a "lightning" hour with lots of quick Demos of applications running on a completely free stack (5 - 10 minutes per demo). - Sunday from 09:00 to 12:30 - "Developer talks" presentations of things that are in progress and that people want to explain in more depth to get developers of the other projects to join in a share the fun. - Sunday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "The Future" hard core interactive technical hacker discussions on how to integrate the projects more and move forward in the next year. Arnaud Vandyck, Dalibor Topic, Mark Wielaard, Michael Koch and and Tom Tromey will be our "program committee" this year. If you would like to present something, have an idea for a demo or discussion topic please let us know at fosdem-at-developer.classpath.org Please mention the title, a little abstract, which track and whether you want to do a quick demo, a short 30 min talk or full hour talk (we prefer 30 minute talks to give everybody a chance to present something). Deadline for proposals is December 18, so you have a month to think of something cool. Then we make sure to have some kind of "formal program" at the start of January. Examples of presentations and reports from previous years: http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/escape_fosdem05.html http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/events/fosdem04.html Some ideas for interesting topics: - Free Swing - The Demo! - Your GNU/Linux distro and the free runtimes - package overview. - From 0 to 100 in 15 Minutes: Getting started with GNU Classpath development using Eclipse, JamVM, Mauve, and the ChangeLog plugin! - Integrating with Objectweb through native-(gcj)-JOnAS - Writing OpenOffice.org plugins using a free software stack. - Using GNU Classpath/gcj/kaffe for games - Using free runtimes on Wine and other win32 environments - Embedding GNU Classpath in web browsers and support for JNLP - Security Auditing! - 1.5 language support in GNU Classpath, gcjx and the free runtimes - GNU Classpath/OSGi/J2ME/Library splitting and trimming - Harmony through interfacing. - Beyond JAPI: what is needed to "really finish" GNU Classpath Or, "Beyond Java" -- what we can do when we finish 1.5. Or more generally some kind of presentation about development metrics: bug rates, rates of change in japi/lines of code/tests, email volume, stuff like that. - Debugging, JDWP development efforts. - etc. Hope to see you in Brussels on February 25 and 26 2006, Arnaud, Dalibor, Mark, Michael and Tom -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part