[Histonet] Re: paraformaldehyde grade

2008-09-11 Thread David A. Wright
Hi Mary, René, & Histonet

I agree with René completely about concentration & different
paraformaldehyde grades but you might want to consider a
couple of other issues too:
a) physical state.  A coarse prill is much easier to weigh out
without contamination than a fine powder.
b) filtration.  Before perfusing the brains you have to filter
out anything that might clog the capillaries. There's usually
a milky haze left after dissolving the paraformaldehyde which
you have to remove.  I imagine that a lower grade might have
more undissolved matter, and you have to change filters a lot
even with good stuff (approx every half liter).
-David
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>Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:10:42 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Rene J Buesa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Histonet] Paraformaldehyde
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, "Mary P. Brownson"
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>It does not really matter, BUT it will have to be taken into
consideration when calculating the final concentration you
want to use.
>René J.
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>--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Mary P. Brownson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>From: Mary P. Brownson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [Histonet] Paraformaldehyde
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:50 PM
>
>Hello,
>
>I plan to use paraformaldehyde for perfusion of rat brains. 
My question
>is; what grade paraformaldehde should I be using?  Reagent
grade, 95% or
>other?  Or does it not matter?
>

>Thank you,

>Mary Brownson
>School of Pharmacy
>University of Wyoming
>Laramie, WY 82070
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[Histonet] Re: BrdU

2008-09-11 Thread David A. Wright
Hi Joost & the Histonet

I have some general comments on BrdU that i hope help.  Maybe
someone else has more specific ideas relating to your tissue 
too?  

It seems you are having problems with 2 things at once: 
a) switching species
b) switching antibodies
My guess is you only have control over the latter but either
could be the problem! 
a) species - since DNA is DNA, you don't have to worry about
species specificity of your antibody.  Unless you are doing
tissue culture, it's not however always simple to get the same
BrdU incorporation in different species.  I take it that
someone else - possibly different people - labelled the mice
and rats and also that it was done in vivo.  Even repeat
experiments on the same species are variable.  The BrdU
doesn't always go into solution equally (it needs a dilute
base, not buffered saline) and it has to have a phosphate
added on inside the cell before it is incorporated.  So
metabolic rate is important not just dose/kg.  It's a good
idea to collect control tissue from every animal to confirm
incorporation - pick any abundant, proliferating tissue.  I've
often used gut.  You then also have lots of material to work
up and compare different antibodies.  I'm probably not the
only one who'll say you have to try your 2 antibodies side by
side on the same specimen.

b) Different antibodies.  Hmmm.  You mention fixation
procedures but don't say much about what you did to recover
antigenicity in your paraffin sections before staining.  With
BrdU you have to do something just to make it accessible. In
Eukaryotes, (BrdU-containing) nuclear DNA is highly compacted
into nucleosomes with lots of histones and other proteins all
around it and then squashed down a whole lot more.  Fixation
will lock all these proteins together and make it hard for the
Ab to find its target.  I think it's a truism that all nuclear
antigens, including proteins, need some kind of harsh
treatment (heat, strong acid or base, proteinase) to make the
nucleus accessible.  It's interesting that your unconjugated
MAb worked but not the larger conjugated one - maybe it's just
penetration.
On this point, you didn't say whether your protocol was
exactly the same for each Ab.  I've used a bunch of different
anti-BrdU Abs and the manufacturers have quite different
recommendations about pretreatment - 2N HCl, formamide, SSC,
NaOH, proteinase.  If you've only got a tiny bit of tissue,
you MUST do exactly what the manufacturer says [at least the
first time] even if that's different from what worked for you
before with a different Ab (I'd do both!).  It often helps NOT
to block, so the Ab can hit the naked DNA, however exposed.

[c) time.  You mentioned different delays before processing. 
BrdU staining is one of the few things where that won't
matter. As DNA doesn't degrade like proteins, antigenicity
isn't lost with time.] 

Try Again!  Since (same logic) the DNA will still be there on
your slides, IF BrdU was actually incorporated (see a),
there's a very high likelihood that your negative slides WILL
stain with either a different antibody and/or harsher
pretreatment as recommended by the manufacturer.  I liked BD
Bioscience's MAb (clone B44) which only needed a few  minutes
in 0.07N NaOH to unmask to BrdU.  I think it's still available.

Good luck!
-David

David A. Wright PhD
University of Chicago Section of Neurosurgery

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:04:13 +0200
From: "Bruijntjes, J.P. (Joost)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Histonet] BrdU

Hi Histonetters

I do have a problem with BrdU, and I hope someone of you can
give a kind of solution/explanation.

I work with NALT (Nose Associated Lymphoid Tissue) of both
rats and mice, which were fixed in a fixative composed of
acetic acid, formaldehyde, ethanol and aqua dest. After 48
hours this fixative was replaced by ethanol. Later on the
tissues were dehydrated and embedded in paraffin. Just because
the lymphoid tissues material is so small, about 10 paraffin
slides were collected.

I started with the rat NALT's. One paraffin slide was stained
with HE, and a few other slides were stained with a monoclonal
antibody directed against BrdU. I was satisfied with the
staining, so far no problem.

After the rats, the same story with the mice NALT's. But I did
not get any positive staining. Some days later I repeated the
first try-out included with some positive controls from the
rat-study with the primary antibody I used in the first part,
and the biotin conjugated primary antibody as well, but again
no positive staining. The pre-treatment of the slides for rat
and mice is the same. The only difference lies in the primary
and secondary antibody.

For rat tissue I use a non-conjugated monoclonal antibody,
followed by HRP-conjugated powervision.

For mice tissue I use a biotin conjugated monoclonal antibody,
followed by a HRP-conjugated streptavidin.

Can anyone give me an explanation? The storage of

RE: [Histonet] Quantifying lipid in rat liver

2008-09-11 Thread Tony Henwood
You could try this:

Linoleic Acid Method for the demonstration of Lipids in Paraffin
Sections

Tracy & Walia (2002) have described an ingenious method to fix lipids
for staining fat embolism in paraffin sections:

(Tracy, R.E., Walia, P., (2002) "A Method to fix lipids for staining fat
embolism in paraffin sections" Histopath 41:75-79)

Solutions:

1.  Saturated solution of linoleic acid in 70% ethylene glycol
To 500ml of 70% ethylene glycol, add 5g linoleic acid and 2g lecithin,
mix for one hour and stand for several hours. Draw off the lower phase
in a separatory funnel

2.  2% chromic acid

3.  70 % ethanol

4.  5% Sodium bicarbonate

Method:
1.  Place 2mm thick sections in solution 1 for 3 days at 56oC
2.  Rinse for 8 hours in 70% ethanol
3.  Rinse in water for 8 hours
4.  Immerse in 2% chromic acid for 24 hours at 4oC.
5.  Rinse in water for 24 hours
6.  Place in 5% sodium bicarbonate for 24 hours
7.  Rinse in water 8 hours
8.  Process from 70% ethanol via ethanol and xylene to wax.
9.  Cut paraffin sections and stain with the usual fat stains (eg
oil red O) and mount in an aqueous mountant.


Regards

Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC)
Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
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Oh esteemed experts who have no peer,

I am in need of advice on how to quickly and easily quantify lipid
content in rat liver.  I believe a traditional approach is to
process/embed in paraffin/section/H&E and then look for the holes left
by the lipid droplets.  While this is certainly doable it does require
that your samples 'look nice'.  Unfortunately, many of the sections we
have seen here are kind of banged up and morphology is poor.

I was wondering if you all have another method that you prefer for this
type of analysis.  For example, can I just cryosection and stain with
Bodipy or Oil Red-O?  In those cases I could use the fluorescent nature
of the probe to quantify fat content very quickly on a computer.  Here,
damage caused during sectioning should not create too many problems in
quantification as the stain is specific for lipid.

If we wished to avoid image analysis altogether, could we just drop a
rat liver in an NMR and get content that way?

Thanks so much for all your help!

David Burk

Pennington Biomedical Research Center
Baton Rouge, LA 70808

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[Histonet] San Diego Chapter of CSH field trip

2008-09-11 Thread James Watson
The San Diego chapter of the Ca. Society of Histotechnology is
sponsoring a tour of all the labs at the Beckman Research Center
(Genetics and Microdiagnostic labs) adjacent to the Wild Animal Park in
Escondido:  Thursday September 25, 2005 2p.m. 

 

This tour is at no cost and should last about an hour. This tour will
not involve admission to the Wild Animal Park. So if you want to go to
Wild Animal Park you may do that on your own.

 

This trip is open to members of the chapter and other interested adults.
We can accommodate no more than thirty people.  Make you reservation
early so you will not miss out on this.

 

Parking is limited so carpool if you can.  We will need to know how many
cars are going so when you RSVP let Kris know.

 

Traveling east on 78, go past the main entrance and then make the next
left. There is a closed gate.  To gain excess, press the button on the
keypad and identify yourself. 

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Wild+animal+park,+escon
dido,+ca&ie=UTF8&ll=33.086076,-117.039928&spn=0.064578,0.109863&z=13&iwl
oc=A

 

The cut off date and time for reservations are at 4pm Monday September
22, 2008. 

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If you are interested in becoming a member of the San Diego chapter,
please contact me.

 

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RE: [Histonet] bottom of water bath

2008-09-11 Thread Pamela Marcum
Margaret,

Look for a silicone microwave oven mat and cut it to size.  They come in
colours and should lay nicely on the bottom.  If need be it could be
weighted down along the sides with fishing weights or even a small metal bar
cut to size.  It is easier than painting and makes cleaning a breeze as it
lifts out and rinse clean when the water bath is emptied.  

Pamela A Marcum
University of Pennsylvania 
School of Veterinary Medicine
Comparative Orthopedic Laboratory (CORL)
382 W Street Rd
Kennett Square PA 19438
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You can paint stainless steel if you prepare the surface and prime 
correctly. Call the help line of Benjamin Moore, Sherman-Williams, 
Zinsser or ?? and tell them what you need.

Geoff

DiCarlo, Margaret wrote:
> Hello Histonetters,
>
>  
>
> Working in a Bone Lab, I cut large sections which often require using 5
> X 7 inch slides.  I finally found a new water bath which is deep and
> wide enough for my lab needs.  Unfortunately, the inside of the water
> bath is stainless steel which means silver in color.  Since it can not
> be painted, does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do or use
> to make the bottom of the water bath black so I can see the tissue
> easier?  I would appreciate your help.
>
>  
>
> Thank you. 
>
> Peggy DiCarlo HT (ASCP)
>
> Orthopedic Bone Lab
>
> Buffalo General Hospital
>
> 100 High St.
>
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Re: [Histonet] bottom of water bath

2008-09-11 Thread Geoff McAuliffe
You can paint stainless steel if you prepare the surface and prime 
correctly. Call the help line of Benjamin Moore, Sherman-Williams, 
Zinsser or ?? and tell them what you need.


Geoff

DiCarlo, Margaret wrote:

Hello Histonetters,

 


Working in a Bone Lab, I cut large sections which often require using 5
X 7 inch slides.  I finally found a new water bath which is deep and
wide enough for my lab needs.  Unfortunately, the inside of the water
bath is stainless steel which means silver in color.  Since it can not
be painted, does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do or use
to make the bottom of the water bath black so I can see the tissue
easier?  I would appreciate your help.

 

Thank you. 


Peggy DiCarlo HT (ASCP)

Orthopedic Bone Lab

Buffalo General Hospital

100 High St.

Buffalo, NY  14203

716-859-1293

 




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[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 58, Issue 13 - RECYCLERS

2008-09-11 Thread Kay, Karen

Hello,
We have used the CBG product for a few years now and are very happy with
both the equipment and support/service.  The recycler is simple to use.
We have been able to fit it into the "tasks" of the day. It has been a
very reliable instrument. The staff are always willing to help whenever
we have called them.
Karen J Kay, MLT
Pathology Supervisor
Laboratory
Chinook Regional Hospital
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada


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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:58:09 -0500
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Hello,
 
I'm in the market to demo some recyclers.  Any vendors are welcome to
contact me personally.  I've already contacted CBG and BR Instruments,
so vendors from those areas need not reply to this message.
 
Anyone on Histonet that would like to give me their likes and dislikes
of certain recyclers, I'm all ears.
 
Thanks much,
 
Karen
 
Karen L. Bauer HT(ASCP)
Department of Pathology
Histology Section Chief
Luther Hospital
Eau Claire, WI
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[Histonet] bottom of water bath

2008-09-11 Thread DiCarlo, Margaret
Hello Histonetters,

 

Working in a Bone Lab, I cut large sections which often require using 5
X 7 inch slides.  I finally found a new water bath which is deep and
wide enough for my lab needs.  Unfortunately, the inside of the water
bath is stainless steel which means silver in color.  Since it can not
be painted, does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do or use
to make the bottom of the water bath black so I can see the tissue
easier?  I would appreciate your help.

 

Thank you. 

Peggy DiCarlo HT (ASCP)

Orthopedic Bone Lab

Buffalo General Hospital

100 High St.

Buffalo, NY  14203

716-859-1293

 



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Re: [Histonet] Pig endothelium

2008-09-11 Thread Mark Tarango
Are you putting the tissue into media like RPMI or DMEM to keep it viable
until you use it?

P.S.   Joyce, I loved the lipstick comment hehe

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> Dear All,
>
> Does anyone have any experience with staining pig endothelium, specifically
> keeping rings of blood vessels alive?
>
> I am collecting fresh tissue from the slaughterhouse and incubating it with
> tumour necrosis factor to induce VCAM-1 expression.  However, I suspect
> that
> the tissue quickly loses viability and this is why I can¹t visualise any
> VCAM with IHC.
>
> Does anyone have any tips for keeping the rings of tissue
> going/fixing/antigen retrieval?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Alistair Lindsay MBChB MRCP
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Re: [Histonet] Unstained slide storage

2008-09-11 Thread Rene J Buesa
Decreased antigenicity applies to any section stored and unprotected from 
oxygen (air) oxidation.
René J.

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Daniel,
I have found that saving slides with FFPE skin sections 5-10 micrometer 
thick, the antigenicity declines with age, even when stored in the fridge. 
I have tested slides from the same block freshly cut versus 2-3 years 
stored on a microscope slide in the fridge. Whether this applies to needle 
biopsies of tumor tissue I don't know...now I just section what I need and 
return the block to the fridge.
Mel


Melville B. Vaughan, Ph. D.
Assistant Professor of Biology
Campus Coordinator, NSF Sure-Step program
University of Central Oklahoma
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:40:21 -0500
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Subject: [Histonet] Protocol: Saving unstained slides...
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I thought I'd poll the histonet community on an issue we're facing:

On needle biopsies for tumor, what, if any, is your protocol
for making unstained slides "on the front end" for potential use with
immunostains later (so that the specimen isn't exhausted producing levels 
x
3, and you have good sections of tumor for immunostains)?

Is this protocol followed on all needle biopsies for tumor?

And what happens to any unused, unstained slides?  Are they discarded (if
so, after how long?) or kept indefinitely?

Thanks for your input!
Daniel Schneider


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[Histonet] Saving unstained slides

2008-09-11 Thread Gagnon, Eric
We pick up 10 sections on any needle/core biopsy of suspected tumour/lymphoma.  
Usually if immunostains are ordered, the request comes the same day our routine 
slides go out, or possibly the next day.  Cutting them "up front" seems the 
prudent way to go if there is any risk of the biopsy being cut away during 
subsequent sectioning for immunostains.  How about 1 stained and 3-5 unstained 
at each level?  This has saved us precious tissue many times, especially when 
multiple markers are requested.  If more markers are requested than there are 
unstained sections, the pathologist will priorize his request and we then cut 
more slides, trying to conserve as much tissue as possible.
 
As for retaining these unstained slides, they're definitely worth keeping until 
after the dx. is made, after that it's up to you how long you want to retain 
them in your protocol.  Antigenicity and storage capacity/cost are among issues 
to be considered.
 
As Greg mentioned, this is from a Canadian viewpoint.
 
Eric Gagnon MLT
Histology Laboratory
Kingston General Hospital
Kingston, Ontario, Canada
 


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RE: [Histonet] Pig endothelium

2008-09-11 Thread Weems, Joyce
Lipstick, maybe? Sorry, couldn't help it... j

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Dear All,

Does anyone have any experience with staining pig endothelium, specifically 
keeping rings of blood vessels alive?

I am collecting fresh tissue from the slaughterhouse and incubating it with 
tumour necrosis factor to induce VCAM-1 expression.  However, I suspect that 
the tissue quickly loses viability and this is why I can¹t visualise any VCAM 
with IHC. 

Does anyone have any tips for keeping the rings of tissue going/fixing/antigen 
retrieval?

Many thanks

Alistair Lindsay MBChB MRCP

Tel.: 07989404808

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[Histonet] Pig endothelium

2008-09-11 Thread Alistair Lindsay
Dear All,

Does anyone have any experience with staining pig endothelium, specifically
keeping rings of blood vessels alive?

I am collecting fresh tissue from the slaughterhouse and incubating it with
tumour necrosis factor to induce VCAM-1 expression.  However, I suspect that
the tissue quickly loses viability and this is why I can¹t visualise any
VCAM with IHC. 

Does anyone have any tips for keeping the rings of tissue
going/fixing/antigen retrieval?

Many thanks

Alistair Lindsay MBChB MRCP

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[Histonet] Unstained slide storage

2008-09-11 Thread MVaughan4
Daniel,
I have found that saving slides with FFPE skin sections 5-10 micrometer 
thick, the antigenicity declines with age, even when stored in the fridge. 
I have tested slides from the same block freshly cut versus 2-3 years 
stored on a microscope slide in the fridge. Whether this applies to needle 
biopsies of tumor tissue I don't know...now I just section what I need and 
return the block to the fridge.
Mel


Melville B. Vaughan, Ph. D.
Assistant Professor of Biology
Campus Coordinator, NSF Sure-Step program
University of Central Oklahoma
100 N. University Drive
Edmond, OK 73034
phone 405-974-5725

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:40:21 -0500
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Subject: [Histonet] Protocol: Saving unstained slides...
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I thought I'd poll the histonet community on an issue we're facing:

On needle biopsies for tumor, what, if any, is your protocol
for making unstained slides "on the front end" for potential use with
immunostains later (so that the specimen isn't exhausted producing levels 
x
3, and you have good sections of tumor for immunostains)?

Is this protocol followed on all needle biopsies for tumor?

And what happens to any unused, unstained slides?  Are they discarded (if
so, after how long?) or kept indefinitely?

Thanks for your input!
Daniel Schneider


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Re: [Histonet] Protocol: Saving unstained slides...

2008-09-11 Thread Greg Dobbin


Hi Daniel,
All of our "blanks" are saved for a short time (ie 2-4 weeks) just in
case, but those from cases that have very little tissue left in the
block or small malignant foci are filed with the H&E slides (and any
other stained slides of course) that go with the case. The idea is that
if in 2 years we want to restain the tumour for something new or (heaven
forbid!) a re-check, the pathologist would generally be asking to see
the original H&E's anyway; and at that time we would discover that
indeed blanks do exist on the case already.
Hope this helps (Disclaimer-I'm in Canada and none of this response
necessarily addresses either CAP or CLIA regulations).
Cheers!
Greg

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Chief Technologist, Anatomic Pathology
Dept. of Laboratory Medicine,
Queen Elizabeth Hospital,
P.O. Box 6600
Charlottetown, PEC1A 8T5
Phone: (902) 894-2337
Fax: (902) 894-2385

"Success is not the key to happiness. 
Happiness is the key to success. 
If you love what you are doing, 
you will be successful." 
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Chief Technologist, Anatomic Pathology
Dept. of Laboratory Medicine,
Queen Elizabeth Hospital,
P.O. Box 6600
Charlottetown, PEC1A 8T5
Phone: (902) 894-2337
Fax: (902) 894-2385

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Happiness is the key to success. 
If you love what you are doing, 
you will be successful." 
- Albert Schweitzer


>>> "Daniel Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/11/2008 12:40 PM >>>
I thought I'd poll the histonet community on an issue we're facing:

On needle biopsies for tumor, what, if any, is your protocol
for making unstained slides "on the front end" for potential use with
immunostains later (so that the specimen isn't exhausted producing
levels x
3, and you have good sections of tumor for immunostains)?

Is this protocol followed on all needle biopsies for tumor?

And what happens to any unused, unstained slides?  Are they discarded
(if
so, after how long?) or kept indefinitely?

Thanks for your input!
Daniel Schneider
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[Histonet] formalin-formula and osmolarity

2008-09-11 Thread Gudrun Lang
Hi all,

I need the help of those with a talent in chemical calculation.

This formula is used in our institute since 1970, but nobody knows the
origin or a publication.

 

Formalin-formula: 8% buffered Formaldehyd

2 Liter 36% Formaldehyd

2 Liter Phosphatpuffer pH 7,8

6 Liter Aqua dest.

EndpH 7,4

 

commercial Phosphatpuffer contents:

Natrium di-hydrogenphosphat monohydrat  1,810 g 

di-Natrium monohydrogenphosphat dihydrat3,756 g 

Natriumchlorid  4,4 g 

Water ad  1000
ml

 

Phosphatebuffer has a molarity of  34,2 mmol/l.

 

Can anybody calculate the osmolarity of the ready formalin-solution for me? 

What could be the advantages or disadvantages compared to Lillies 4% NBF or
Carson's 4% NBF?

Is the buffer-effect big enough in comparison to other formulas with 0,1 M
Phosphatebuffer?

 

Pleas help, any input is appreciated.

Gudrun Lang

 

Linz, Austria

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[Histonet] test: please delete

2008-09-11 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)



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[Histonet] Protocol: Saving unstained slides...

2008-09-11 Thread Daniel Schneider
I thought I'd poll the histonet community on an issue we're facing:

On needle biopsies for tumor, what, if any, is your protocol
for making unstained slides "on the front end" for potential use with
immunostains later (so that the specimen isn't exhausted producing levels x
3, and you have good sections of tumor for immunostains)?

Is this protocol followed on all needle biopsies for tumor?

And what happens to any unused, unstained slides?  Are they discarded (if
so, after how long?) or kept indefinitely?

Thanks for your input!
Daniel Schneider
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[Histonet] Quantifying lipid in rat liver

2008-09-11 Thread David Burk
Oh esteemed experts who have no peer,

I am in need of advice on how to quickly and easily quantify lipid
content in rat liver.  I believe a traditional approach is to
process/embed in paraffin/section/H&E and then look for the holes left
by the lipid droplets.  While this is certainly doable it does require
that your samples 'look nice'.  Unfortunately, many of the sections we
have seen here are kind of banged up and morphology is poor.

I was wondering if you all have another method that you prefer for this
type of analysis.  For example, can I just cryosection and stain with
Bodipy or Oil Red-O?  In those cases I could use the fluorescent nature
of the probe to quantify fat content very quickly on a computer.  Here,
damage caused during sectioning should not create too many problems in
quantification as the stain is specific for lipid.

If we wished to avoid image analysis altogether, could we just drop a
rat liver in an NMR and get content that way?

Thanks so much for all your help!

David Burk

Pennington Biomedical Research Center
Baton Rouge, LA 70808

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[Histonet] Antigen retrieval 'tween night and next day

2008-09-11 Thread MVaughan4
Brian,
I haven't seen your procedure for antigen retrieval before. I usually see 
heat/citrate buffer or some kind of protease treatment. It seems pretty 
straightforward. Have you ever used this procedure for keratins or 
basement membrane proteins?

Brian wrote: 
I have performed antigen retrieval by leaving slides overnight in the
refrigerator immersed in PBS + 0.05% Tween 20. I'm sure there are many 
other
ways to accomplish antigen retrieval, heat merely accelerates the process.


Thanks. 
Mel

Melville B. Vaughan, Ph. D.
Assistant Professor of Biology
Campus Coordinator, NSF Sure-Step program
University of Central Oklahoma
100 N. University Drive
Edmond, OK 73034
Telephone 405-974-5725
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[Histonet] NSH Blog

2008-09-11 Thread Della Speranza, Vinnie
I didn't see this announcement posted on the list and thought it might be of 
interest to some.

Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue  Suite 309
Charleston, South Carolina 29425
Tel: (843) 792-6353
Fax: (843) 792-8974

FYI


BLOGGING NSH




The National Society for Histotechnology's Annual Symposium/Convention is one 
of the preeminent events for histology and pathology laboratory administrators 
and professionals.  Each year it continues to grow in popularity and attendance 
as NSH members and people from all facets of the histotechnology industry come 
together to share ideas and get a first-hand look at the new and exciting 
technologies that are helping labs work smarter and become more effective.

This year it's being held at the David Lawerence Convention Center in 
Pittsburgh, PA on Sept 12 - 18. General Data will be showing our ID/Positive 
line of bar code specimen identification solutions (we're at booth 506 & 508).  
If you're coming to the show, please stop by our booth and say hi.

If you can't make it to the event, stay tuned to this blog.  In addition to 
exhibiting, we'll be blogging the show. During (and after) the show, we'll be 
posting pictures, video interviews, and other information on what we find at 
the NSH Convention - what's new, what's hot, what's on attendees' minds.

Our intention is for this blog to be the eyes and ears at NSH for the entire 
histo community, particularly for those who can't attend the event.

Please pass this on to anyone who you feel might be interested in following our 
posts from the NSH Convention.

And if you have any comments or suggestions regarding topics or other subject 
matter from NSH you would like us to cover, just let us know by e-mail or in 
the comments section.


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[Histonet] BrdU

2008-09-11 Thread Bruijntjes, J.P. (Joost)
Hi Histonetters

 

I do have a problem with BrdU, and I hope someone of you can give a kind of 
solution/explanation.

 

I work with NALT (Nose Associated Lymphoid Tissue) of both rats and mice, which 
were fixed in a fixative composed of acetic acid, formaldehyde, ethanol and 
aqua dest. After 48 hours this fixative was replaced by ethanol. Later on the 
tissues were dehydrated and embedded in paraffin. Just because the lymphoid 
tissues material is so small, about 10 paraffin slides were collected.

I started with the rat NALT's. One paraffin slide was stained with HE, and a 
few other slides were stained with a monoclonal antibody directed against BrdU. 
I was satisfied with the staining, so far no problem.

 

After the rats, the same story with the mice NALT's. But I did not get any 
positive staining. Some days later I repeated the first try-out included with 
some positive controls from the rat-study with the primary antibody I used in 
the first part, and the biotin conjugated primary antibody as well, but again 
no positive staining. The pre-treatment of the slides for rat and mice is the 
same. The only difference lies in the primary and secondary antibody. 

 

For rat tissue I use a non-conjugated monoclonal antibody, followed by 
HRP-conjugated powervision.

For mice tissue I use a biotin conjugated monoclonal antibody, followed by a 
HRP-conjugated streptavidin.

 

Can anyone give me an explanation? The storage of the slides was in a room with 
an equal temperature (about 20-21ºC) and humidity. 

Is it possible that the epitopes in the single slides are destroyed so that 
they are not recognizable anymore by the antibody? The time between preparing 
the slides and the BrdU staining of the rats NALT slides was at the most 4 
weeks, while the first negative staining on the mice NALT's appeared after 
about 8 weeks. 

 

Thanks in advance

Joost Bruijntjes

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