RE: [Histonet] Question about slide drying/ convection ovens

2013-01-28 Thread Morken, Timothy
There is a reason to distinguish the type of oven but the terms are used 
loosely and so cause confusion.

"Convection" is used to describe in nature to describe the natural circulation 
of heat and can be of "natural" gravity convection in which heat rises, or 
forced in which some kind of external force spreads the heat "faster" Ie, wind.

Strictly speaking a "Convection Oven" is one that uses a fan to distribute the 
heat. That is opposed to Conventional Ovens that do not use fans and rely on 
gravity to distribute heat (heat rises, setting up convection currents).

However, if you look at equipment catalogs you will see terms like "Gravity 
Convection" and "Forced Air" to distinguish between ovens without and with fans 
respectively. 

Most ovens in use are "gravity-convection" ovens that rely on the natural rise 
of heated air to circulate the heat. They don' t use fans.

In contrast is the forced-air convection oven that uses a fan to circulate air 
and ensure even heating throughout the oven. Forced air can heat/dry a sample 
faster if the fan is set to circulate air at a faster rate than would happen by 
natural convection.

So, the moral of the story is to read the description of the oven to find out 
exactly what kind of oven it really is!


Tim Morken
UCSF Pathology


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:06 AM
To: Natalie Nagy; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Question about slide drying/ convection ovens

Natalia: 
I just cannot understand the concept of "gravity" convection oven because if 
you say "gravity" by definition that will mean that the heat will work by 
gravity and any heated air goes, also by definition, against gravity because 
any heat air will go UP and not down, hence the "hot air balloons".
Probably the title is just a "catchy" but wrongly selected sales mimic, 
something "new and different".
Other than that, and going to your question, no I have never used such an oven.
Ovens are of the convection type and in all of them the heating elements are at 
the bottom and the heated air goes UP.
René J.

From: Natalie Nagy 
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Question about slide drying/ convection ovens

Hi everyone,
                  Just have a quick question for all of you out there in 
histo-land. Have you ever bought or worked with a gravity convection oven (the 
thermo shandon 20GC), for drying of slides?? If so..how was it? Did it properly 
dry all of your slides, did it keep temp?? I am thinking about buying one, and 
wanted some opinions. Or do you all prefer a real forced air slide drying oven?
Thanks in advance,
              
      Natalie Nagy (HT)ASCP
Histology Supervisor
Holyoke Medical Center
Holyoke, MA.



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Re: [Histonet] Question about slide drying/ convection ovens

2013-01-28 Thread Rene J Buesa
Natalia: 
I just cannot understand the concept of "gravity" convection oven because if 
you say "gravity" by definition that will mean that the heat will work by 
gravity and any heated air goes, also by definition, against gravity because 
any heat air will go UP and not down, hence the "hot air balloons".
Probably the title is just a "catchy" but wrongly selected sales mimic, 
something "new and different".
Other than that, and going to your question, no I have never used such an oven.
Ovens are of the convection type and in all of them the heating elements are at 
the bottom and the heated air goes UP.
René J.

From: Natalie Nagy 
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Question about slide drying/ convection ovens

Hi everyone,
                  Just have a quick question for all of you out there in 
histo-land. Have you ever bought or worked with a gravity convection oven (the 
thermo shandon 20GC), for drying of slides?? If so..how was it? Did it properly 
dry all of your slides, did it keep temp?? I am thinking about buying one, and 
wanted some opinions. Or do you all prefer a real forced air slide drying oven?
Thanks in advance,
              
      Natalie Nagy (HT)ASCP
Histology Supervisor
Holyoke Medical Center
Holyoke, MA.



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[Histonet] Question about slide drying/ convection ovens

2013-01-28 Thread Natalie Nagy
Hi everyone,
  Just have a quick question for all of you out there in 
histo-land. Have you ever bought or worked with a gravity convection oven (the 
thermo shandon 20GC), for drying of slides?? If so..how was it? Did it properly 
dry all of your slides, did it keep temp?? I am thinking about buying one, and 
wanted some opinions. Or do you all prefer a real forced air slide drying oven?
Thanks in advance,
   
  Natalie Nagy (HT)ASCP
Histology Supervisor
Holyoke Medical Center
Holyoke, MA.
 


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