RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Pratt, Caroline]

I am so sorry to cause confusion, I am referring to specimen bottles, my 
apologies.

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From: Tom McNemar [mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:51 AM
To: Pratt, Caroline; Ron; pamar...@uams.edu; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

I am a little confused.  Are you referring to specimen bottles?  I was 
inquiring about what identifiers are being used on printed cassettes.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
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-Original Message-
From: Pratt, Caroline [mailto:caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:47 AM
To: Ron; pamar...@uams.edu; Tom McNemar; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

It doesn't meet criteria for TJC, we used that for years and it was acceptable 
until our last survey.  We were written up for it and had to send labeling 
instructions to all of our submitting clinicians and conduct bottle audits to 
evidence that 90% of all bottles had patient full name (last and first), DOB 
and site along with the accession number.  It is a tremendous ongoing effort, 
but we are there now.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

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"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
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>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
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>(740) 348-4166
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Tom McNemar]

I am a little confused.  Are you referring to specimen bottles?  I was 
inquiring about what identifiers are being used on printed cassettes.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
www.LMHealth.org

-Original Message-
From: Pratt, Caroline [mailto:caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:47 AM
To: Ron; pamar...@uams.edu; Tom McNemar; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

It doesn't meet criteria for TJC, we used that for years and it was acceptable 
until our last survey.  We were written up for it and had to send labeling 
instructions to all of our submitting clinicians and conduct bottle audits to 
evidence that 90% of all bottles had patient full name (last and first), DOB 
and site along with the accession number.  It is a tremendous ongoing effort, 
but we are there now.

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Pratt, Caroline]

It doesn't meet criteria for TJC, we used that for years and it was acceptable 
until our last survey.  We were written up for it and had to send labeling 
instructions to all of our submitting clinicians and conduct bottle audits to 
evidence that 90% of all bottles had patient full name (last and first), DOB 
and site along with the accession number.  It is a tremendous ongoing effort, 
but we are there now. 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom 
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
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RE: [Histonet] Re: Two identifiers...

[Michael Mihalik]

Bob, I absolutely concur with your thoughts, but in the LIS we offer, the
moment you scan the slide, the 'paperwork' displays on the screen
automatically, effectively negating the need to match paperwork with the
slide.

We also always recommend BIG monitors  or even dual monitors to make it
easier to see.  Imagine the paperwork on one monitor and a 'work' screen on
the other monitor.

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:11 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Two identifiers...

If a pathologist end-user may make an observation here:

When I pick up a slide and look to match it with the paperwork in front of
me, it's a great help if the patient's name is on the slide, since names are
always easier to read than numbers. Having the patient's name on the slide
means I'm less likely to mix up two cases.
I can't do that with a bar code or a second essentially meaningless number.

This may however be a situation where good patient care must take a back
seat to good management practice and good regulator compliance.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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RE: [Histonet] Re: Two identifiers...

[joelle weaver]

Yes I can see how that would be easier for the Pathologist. Also you certainly 
fall into "need to know". HIPPA applies for information when it gets 
electronically transmitted, so not so much the physical slide would be my 
assumption. Some places just want to be very cautious I guess, and are 
concerned about associating the name with the number, though you would still 
need to find a way to access anymore information in the system or papers. I am 
not saying I agree with this interpretation necessarily, just that is what I 
have experienced so far, perhaps it is overkill?  I know that one issue I see 
is that when people see a name of someone they think they know in the lab 
itself, it makes them much more curious and they are tempted to look them up- a 
friend, neighbor, co-worker. Of course most LIS audit for this, but not only is 
this very offensive when you hear this person's information reported and 
discussed out in the lab, it is one of the reasons I support HIPPA generally 
despite its burdens. And also why I try never to have my own specimens go to a 
lab I am working at or know anyone.  I realize barcodes are not helpful to 
people doing handling unfortunately, but they do  help avoid transcription 
errors, offer an additional layer to disguise the information from those who 
don't need it and might be overly curious,  and allow tracking for workflow- 
but many people still prefer human-manual labeling methods.  




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:11:12 -0400
> From: rsrichm...@gmail.com
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Re: Two identifiers...
> 
> If a pathologist end-user may make an observation here:
> 
> When I pick up a slide and look to match it with the paperwork in
> front of me, it's a great help if the patient's name is on the slide,
> since names are always easier to read than numbers. Having the
> patient's name on the slide means I'm less likely to mix up two cases.
> I can't do that with a bar code or a second essentially meaningless
> number.
> 
> This may however be a situation where good patient care must take a
> back seat to good management practice and good regulator compliance.
> 
> Bob Richmond
> Samurai Pathologist
> Maryville TN
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[Histonet] Re: Two identifiers...

[Bob Richmond]

If a pathologist end-user may make an observation here:

When I pick up a slide and look to match it with the paperwork in
front of me, it's a great help if the patient's name is on the slide,
since names are always easier to read than numbers. Having the
patient's name on the slide means I'm less likely to mix up two cases.
I can't do that with a bar code or a second essentially meaningless
number.

This may however be a situation where good patient care must take a
back seat to good management practice and good regulator compliance.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[joelle weaver]

The de-indentification rules in HIPPA [45 CFR 164.514] stipulate alot of 
personal information as PHI ( all for electronic 
media/transmission/retrieval/access etc)  such as "All elements  directly 
related to an individual, including names, birth date, admission date,discharge 
date, date of death, Medical record numbers.." .  I know HIPPA rules go on 
to more explicit details for encoding and decoding personal information, and 
specifically stipulate the encryption etc- subjects that I should probably 
leave to those people who work with this directly.  Anyhow, I have not taken a 
recent look at the HITECH act so not sure how it plays in to respond here, but 
I recall that it elaborates further. I don't have a checklist handy,  but I 
would think that if you use an LIS with a patient data base, electronically 
send reports, fax reports/requisitions etc, this would mean you have to comply. 
I guess overall, most places I have worked at have interpreted the protection 
of PHI strictly to mean all information that relates to the patient identity, 
and have  kept it as private as possible and restricted it unless you have that 
all important "need to know". 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:47:06 +0000
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
CC: 

First, the two identifier rule applies to specimens arriving into the 
laboratory. Once you assign a unique lab identifier eg. an accession number, 
that is all that is required within the laboratory.  This is from the CAP 
regulations.
 
Second, ask the lab with the issue, exactly what protected health information 
is on the slide label? A person's name even DOB is NOT considered protected 
health information even under the latest HIPAA revisions.
 
Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:34 PM
To: 'Marcum, Pamela A'; 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Ron'; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
 
While on the subject of identifiers on slide labels, I was wondering if anyone 
had ever run into a concern regarding patient name on slides that are sent out 
for further stains, consultation, etc.?
 
I've run into at least one lab that was concerned that it was a HIPPA/patient 
confidentiality violation.
 
Has anyone else run into this issue or given this topic some consideration?
 
Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
 
 
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:19 PM
To: 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Ron'; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
 
That I don't know as we have barcodes that the information is transferred from 
on the cassettes.  It contains all of the patient info plus block and date 
information.Pam
 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Ron'; Marcum, Pamela A; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
 
Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?
 
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[joelle weaver]

Yes, some of the labs where I have worked have been concerned and overly 
cautious I guess  (since I saw the correction that apparently it is not 
technically a HIPPA issue to have the name etc on the slide). But anyhow, as I 
understood it  their decisions was based on the idea that they they felt that 
names were not truly unique. So they liked the idea that all the identifiers 
would be assigned as numbers and coding .They also wanted the 2 identifiers 
required at receipt to be an "across the board procedure"  for all lab 
specimens that came into any lab area.  Using these methods was more consistent 
with other areas and the procedure for rejection due to specimen identity 
defects and other non-conformity was spelled out clearly for all types of lab 
specimens and documented the same way. As I recall,the JC patient safety goals 
, played into their decisions at the time, and also a desire for more 
consistency and standardization of processes. Personally never liked using 
names, numbers are ok since you have to order and sort somehow, but I like that 
you have the potential to get added benefits for data and workflow tracking 
with barcoding and other imprinting. 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 > From: m...@pathview.com
> To: pamar...@uams.edu; joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org; pathr...@comcast.net; 
> tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:33:42 -0400
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
> CC: 
> 
> While on the subject of identifiers on slide labels, I was wondering if 
> anyone had ever run into a concern regarding patient name on slides that are 
> sent out for further stains, consultation, etc.?
> 
> I've run into at least one lab that was concerned that it was a HIPPA/patient 
> confidentiality violation.
> 
> Has anyone else run into this issue or given this topic some consideration?
> 
> Michael Mihalik
> PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, 
> Pamela A
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:19 PM
> To: 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Ron'; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
> 
> That I don't know as we have barcodes that the information is transferred 
> from on the cassettes.  It contains all of the patient info plus block and 
> date information.Pam
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Weems, Joyce K. [mailto:joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:59 AM
> To: 'Ron'; Marcum, Pamela A; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
> 
> Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?
> 
> Joyce Weems
> Pathology Manager
> 678-843-7376 Phone
> 678-843-7831 Fax
> joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org
> 
> 
> 
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> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
> 
> We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
> 
> "Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:
> 
> >We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
> >identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
> >writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
> >
> >Pam Marcum
> >UAMS
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom 
> >McNemar
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
> >To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
> >
> >Hello all,
> >
> >For those of you using 

RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Joe W. Walker, Jr.]

First, the two identifier rule applies to specimens arriving into the 
laboratory. Once you assign a unique lab identifier eg. an accession number, 
that is all that is required within the laboratory.  This is from the CAP 
regulations.

Second, ask the lab with the issue, exactly what protected health information 
is on the slide label? A person's name even DOB is NOT considered protected 
health information even under the latest HIPAA revisions.

Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Anatomical Pathology Manager
Rutland Regional Medical Center
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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Mihalik
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:34 PM
To: 'Marcum, Pamela A'; 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Ron'; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

While on the subject of identifiers on slide labels, I was wondering if anyone 
had ever run into a concern regarding patient name on slides that are sent out 
for further stains, consultation, etc.?

I've run into at least one lab that was concerned that it was a HIPPA/patient 
confidentiality violation.

Has anyone else run into this issue or given this topic some consideration?

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:19 PM
To: 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Ron'; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

That I don't know as we have barcodes that the information is transferred from 
on the cassettes.  It contains all of the patient info plus block and date 
information.Pam

-Original Message-
From: Weems, Joyce K. [mailto:joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Ron'; Marcum, Pamela A; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
>tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
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>
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Michael Mihalik]

While on the subject of identifiers on slide labels, I was wondering if anyone 
had ever run into a concern regarding patient name on slides that are sent out 
for further stains, consultation, etc.?

I've run into at least one lab that was concerned that it was a HIPPA/patient 
confidentiality violation.

Has anyone else run into this issue or given this topic some consideration?

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:19 PM
To: 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Ron'; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

That I don't know as we have barcodes that the information is transferred from 
on the cassettes.  It contains all of the patient info plus block and date 
information.Pam

-Original Message-
From: Weems, Joyce K. [mailto:joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Ron'; Marcum, Pamela A; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom 
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[joelle weaver]

I have worked many places that used barcodes/QR codes as an identifier. I have 
never heard of this being a problem, and actually seemed to be a well regarded 
method for the second identifier. Names can be the same, numbers can get 
transposedI also thought this preferable since the patient name is not 
associated with the accession number wherever the slide may travel. The bar 
code should be "machine readable" with most readers since the symbologies are 
fairly standardized now. So you can always verify the information, and if you 
use the coding for work tracking, this is pretty standard I believe,  and far 
more accurate than most folks with numbers and names ( though still not 
perfect). 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 From: pamar...@uams.edu
To: joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org; pathr...@comcast.net; 
tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:19:00 +
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
CC: 

That I don't know as we have barcodes that the information is transferred from 
on the cassettes.  It contains all of the patient info plus block and date 
information.Pam
 
-Original Message-
From: Weems, Joyce K. [mailto:joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Ron'; Marcum, Pamela A; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
 
Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?
 
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org
 
 
 
www.saintjosephsatlanta.org
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...
 
We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number
 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
 
 
 
"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:
 
>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom 
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
>tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
>www.LMHealth.orgtion%20Data\Microsoft\Signatures\www.LMHealth.org>
>
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Marcum, Pamela A]

That I don't know as we have barcodes that the information is transferred from 
on the cassettes.  It contains all of the patient info plus block and date 
information.Pam

-Original Message-
From: Weems, Joyce K. [mailto:joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Ron'; Marcum, Pamela A; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom 
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
>tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
>www.LMHealth.orgtion%20Data\Microsoft\Signatures\www.LMHealth.org>
>
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Weems, Joyce K.]

Good, because that's what I've been doing for several years!

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Mihalik
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:54 PM
To: 'Ron'; pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

Our client labs have always used the barcode and the case id as the identifiers 
and we've never heard of a problem.  This allows us to print special 
instructions on the cassette, which everyone finds helpful later in the 
workflow.

PS:  it also allows us to print the case id in a bigger font as well and that 
in itself may be the biggest 'bang for the buck'.

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
>tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
>www.LMHealth.orgtion%20Data\Microsoft\Signatures\www.LMHealth.org>
>
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Weems, Joyce K.]

Can a bar code be counted as an identifier?

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
>tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
>www.LMHealth.orgtion%20Data\Microsoft\Signatures\www.LMHealth.org>
>
>
>This e-mail, including attachments, is intended for the sole use of the 
>individual and/or entity to whom it is addressed, and contains information 
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Michael Mihalik]

Our client labs have always used the barcode and the case id as the identifiers 
and we've never heard of a problem.  This allows us to print special 
instructions on the cassette, which everyone finds helpful later in the 
workflow.

PS:  it also allows us to print the case id in a bigger font as well and that 
in itself may be the biggest 'bang for the buck'.

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 PM
To: pamar...@uams.edu; tmcne...@lmhealth.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

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"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom 
>McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
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>(740) 348-4166
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Re: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Ron]

We do the same as Pam with the patient name and case number

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone



"Marcum, Pamela A"  wrote:

>We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
>identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
>writer and it transfers the information to the slides.
>
>Pam Marcum
>UAMS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
>[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom McNemar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...
>
>Hello all,
>
>For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
>Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
>DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name 
>as your two identifiers?
>
>Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>Histology Co-ordinator
>Licking Memorial Health Systems
>(740) 348-4163
>(740) 348-4166
>tmcne...@lmhealth.org
>www.LMHealth.org
>
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Marcum, Pamela A]

UAMS refers to it as HIPPA requirement and when we were inspected it was 
commented was a great cross check.   Pam

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From: Mike Pence [mailto:mpe...@grhs.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:59 AM
To: Marcum, Pamela A; Tom McNemar; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

What check list question states that there "must be two identifiers" on the 
slide and the cassette? I don't see it! Mike

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:45 AM
To: 'Tom McNemar'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...


We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
writer and it transfers the information to the slides.

Pam Marcum
UAMS

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom McNemar
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...

Hello all,

For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name as 
your two identifiers?

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166 tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
www.LMHealth.org


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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Mike Pence]

What check list question states that there "must be two identifiers" on
the slide and the cassette? I don't see it! Mike

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Pamela A
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:45 AM
To: 'Tom McNemar'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...


We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the
two identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo
cassette writer and it transfers the information to the slides.

Pam Marcum
UAMS

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
McNemar
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...

Hello all,

For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name,
and  DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number
and name as your two identifiers?

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166 tmcne...@lmhealth.org<mailto:tmcne...@lmhealth.org>
www.LMHealth.org


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[Histonet] RE: Two identifiers...

[Marcum, Pamela A]

We use the specimen or accessioning number and the patient name as the two 
identifiers and that seems to meet the criteria.  We use the Thermo cassette 
writer and it transfers the information to the slides.

Pam Marcum
UAMS

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom McNemar
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:03 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Two identifiers...

Hello all,

For those of you using cassette and slide labelers
Does your system permit you to print the accession number, patient name, and  
DOB on the face of the cassette?  Are you using the specimen number and name as 
your two identifiers?

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
www.LMHealth.org


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