Re: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?

2010-08-13 Thread Gibson, Philip
Hi Everyone

 

Just for clarification; our current practice involves a mixture of
placing racks of slides in an oven for 25 minutes, or using the hot area
of an autostainer (we're talking H&E's here, BTW).

Occasionally, with a particularly urgent case us old-timers will place
individual slides directly onto the floor of an oven for 5 mins which
bakes the sections onto the slides very nicely prior to staining. My
theory is that a 60-70 celsius hotplate will perform the same job for
all of our H&E slides.

 

So far, I haven't noticed any particular artefacts, and we don't suffer
from water pooling between section and slide anyway.

 

I'm trying to find both the "leanest" and cheap (hey - this is the NHS!)
solution by consolidating four stainers and three coverslippers into
just the two machines.

 

Maybe I've not looked closely enough at our super-urgent H&E's...

 

Thanks

 

Phil

 

 

 



Phil Gibson

Senior Biomedical Scientist

Histopathology Dept

Royal Victoria Infirmary

Newcastle Upon Tyne

NE1 4LP

 

Ext. 24565

Tel. 0191 2824565

 



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RE: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?

2010-08-13 Thread Podawiltz, Thomas
Totally agree with Rene. You will need to use some type of drying oven 


Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP) 
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?

The correct answer is "b": if there is water underneath the section that is 
going to be placed on the hot plate, the most likely artifact is that of "empty 
nuclei" that will ruin the sections' usefulness.
René J.

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From: Gibson, Philip 
Subject: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 8:23 AM


Hi



In our "fairly large" histopathology lab we're hoping to consolidate our
autostainers and coverslippers to only two (Sakura) machines.

In order to efficiently do this, we would need to bypass the
autostainer's oven so that multiple racks of slides can be processed
continuously without any 10-15 minute hold-ups. Therefore, we would like
our four separate microtomist teams to place freshly-cut sections on a
hotplate to "bake" for 10 minutes, before being picked up into racks and
transferred directly to xylene on the autostainer.



My question:



Do hotplates work well enough to do this? Two conflicting views in my
lab are (a) Yes, this would work in my experience, and (b) No, this
creates artifacts because water trapped underneath the sections boils
and does damage.



Of course, the more conventional approach would be to use ovens, but
loading and unloading an oven before the autostainer is an additional
wasteful step.



What do my fellow histonetters think?



Many Thanks



Phil







Phil Gibson

Senior Biomedical Scientist

Histopathology Dept

Royal Victoria Infirmary

Newcastle Upon Tyne

NE1 4LP



Ext. 24565

Tel. 0191 2824565





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Re: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?

2010-08-13 Thread Rene J Buesa
The correct answer is "b": if there is water underneath the section that is 
going to be placed on the hot plate, the most likely artifact is that of "empty 
nuclei" that will ruin the sections' usefulness.
René J.

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Gibson, Philip  wrote:


From: Gibson, Philip 
Subject: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 8:23 AM


Hi



In our "fairly large" histopathology lab we're hoping to consolidate our
autostainers and coverslippers to only two (Sakura) machines.

In order to efficiently do this, we would need to bypass the
autostainer's oven so that multiple racks of slides can be processed
continuously without any 10-15 minute hold-ups. Therefore, we would like
our four separate microtomist teams to place freshly-cut sections on a
hotplate to "bake" for 10 minutes, before being picked up into racks and
transferred directly to xylene on the autostainer.



My question:



Do hotplates work well enough to do this? Two conflicting views in my
lab are (a) Yes, this would work in my experience, and (b) No, this
creates artifacts because water trapped underneath the sections boils
and does damage.



Of course, the more conventional approach would be to use ovens, but
loading and unloading an oven before the autostainer is an additional
wasteful step.



What do my fellow histonetters think?



Many Thanks



Phil







Phil Gibson

Senior Biomedical Scientist

Histopathology Dept

Royal Victoria Infirmary

Newcastle Upon Tyne

NE1 4LP



Ext. 24565

Tel. 0191 2824565





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Re: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?

2010-08-13 Thread annigyg
Use the sakura DRS  hotpot
Loading from the plate (apart for the other drawbacks) will set the wax on the 
first slides put in the racks and you may end uo with inadequate dewaxing
Just my 5cents worth
Annieinarabia

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:23:34 
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Subject: [Histonet] Acceptable way to "bake" sections onto slides?

Hi

 

In our "fairly large" histopathology lab we're hoping to consolidate our
autostainers and coverslippers to only two (Sakura) machines.

In order to efficiently do this, we would need to bypass the
autostainer's oven so that multiple racks of slides can be processed
continuously without any 10-15 minute hold-ups. Therefore, we would like
our four separate microtomist teams to place freshly-cut sections on a
hotplate to "bake" for 10 minutes, before being picked up into racks and
transferred directly to xylene on the autostainer.

 

My question:

 

Do hotplates work well enough to do this? Two conflicting views in my
lab are (a) Yes, this would work in my experience, and (b) No, this
creates artifacts because water trapped underneath the sections boils
and does damage.

 

Of course, the more conventional approach would be to use ovens, but
loading and unloading an oven before the autostainer is an additional
wasteful step.

 

What do my fellow histonetters think?

 

Many Thanks

 

Phil

 

 



Phil Gibson

Senior Biomedical Scientist

Histopathology Dept

Royal Victoria Infirmary

Newcastle Upon Tyne

NE1 4LP

 

Ext. 24565

Tel. 0191 2824565

 



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