Re: [Histonet] Bachelor's degrees to sit for HTL
Fawn, There is no specification as to what type of degree it must be. It can be any baccalaureate degree as long as you have at least 30 semester hours of biology and chemistry combined. I have had students with art and psychology degrees sit for the HTL exam. They came back to college to get the additional science classes to satisfy the HTL (ASCP) requirement. Jennifer From: Fawn Bomar via Histonet To: "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu" Date: 10/20/2016 08:27 AM Subject:[Histonet] Bachelor's degrees to sit for HTL Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help my co-worker and myself in trying to figure out exactly what we need to do to obtain a bachelor's degree that would qualify us to sit for the HTL. As of right now we both have associate's degrees and our HT certification. We both work full time and have children so we cannot attend college full time and would have to do most of it online if possible due to our location in South Boston, Virginia. We are trying to figure out how to blend online classes with the science classes that may have labs required that we would have to attend campus for. Another question we are having is what specific bachelor's degree do we have to obtain, does it have to be a biology degree or a science degree? Thanks for all your help, Fawn Bomar - This electronic message may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. Do not deliver, distribute, or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information it contains. Thank you ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees
Cindy: And not being able to hire anybody without the license is absolutely great and why the license was created in the firs place, namely, to avoid having low paid people doing histology work in detriment to others more qualified. The salary competition posed by those not licensed is the cause for the low pay histotechs receive when compared with other professionals in the medical laboratory. That was exactly the point: to assure a just salary for histotechs. René J. --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Cynthia Pyse wrote: From: Cynthia Pyse Subject: RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees To: "'Thomas Jasper'" , "'Nathan Jentsch'" Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 8:12 AM Tom, I agree with you about Nate qualifications. Unfortunately in NYS if you bring in outside work your tech MUST be licensed in NY. The copy of the license need to be displayed in the lab. I haven't found any way to hire employees without a license. Cindy Pyse, CLT, HT (ASCP) Histology Supervisor X-Cell Laboratories e-mail cp...@x-celllab.com -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Jasper Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:23 PM To: Nathan Jentsch Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees One more reason to consider "carefully" before throwing support to state licensure where it does not exist. I feel sorry for you Nathan and I'd like to have someone explain the upside of licensing to you. It seems it's not about having a license (like a driver's license) to practice histology. I fear it's just more about fattening state coffers and adding another level of bureauracracy to things. If you are educated (as you are Nate) and if you are academically eligible to sit for the registry exam. And if you can satisfactorily pass the exam, what has state licensing got to do with it? Are you a better histologist in New York because you're "licensed" as opposed to your neighbors in PA, for example who aren't? I think not. Does licensing prove something that science degrees and registry certifications do not? Maybe I just don't get it. And I'm not trying to pick a fight here with the supporters of licensing. I just haven't heard a good convincing argument for it yet. I'm also quite certain that even though monetary compensation has improved somewhat, the last thing most Histologists need is another payment. The privilege to work in a certain state, which is paid for (by you) nothing more?! I suppose some kindly employers out there somewhere could pay for it...good luck with that. Here's an idea, let's say you're degreed and registry eligible and/or have passed your board exam(s) and are certified. How 'bout the state says you've met the qualification for licensing, here you go! Nate you are degreed and certified and in my book and in the book of the current state I live in - Oregon - and the states I've worked in - Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota - you are more than qualified to work. I for one would not hesitate in the least to consider a person such as yourself for employment. Again you are more than qualified, even though you are "unlicensed". I guess I just don't understand how credentialing - degrees and certifications - aren't enough, but licensing is the magic ticket to better science/medicine/patient care/whatever. I'm sure some folks out there will bring on the firestorm, but again Nathan I feel sorry for you and I don't see the reasoning behind this. Tom Jasper Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS Histology Supervisor Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701 541/693-2677 tjas...@copc.net -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Jentsch Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:46 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees Paula, Let me tell you that this is an extremely frustrating point for me not for getting a job but for getting a license in New York State (which is related because I'm technically supposed to have a license to work). Despite the fact that I have a B.S. in a science field and have been working competently at my job for almost two years now, the state wants me to have an A.S. in histotechnology to get my license. They won't even consider HT certification as sufficient. If a collective group of experts in the fields of laboratory science and pathology say I'm qualified, why isn't that good enough for a bunch of beurocrats who can't even manage the pocket book of our state. Nate ___ Histonet m
RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees
Tom, I agree with you about Nate qualifications. Unfortunately in NYS if you bring in outside work your tech MUST be licensed in NY. The copy of the license need to be displayed in the lab. I haven't found any way to hire employees without a license. Cindy Pyse, CLT, HT (ASCP) Histology Supervisor X-Cell Laboratories e-mail cp...@x-celllab.com -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Jasper Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:23 PM To: Nathan Jentsch Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees One more reason to consider "carefully" before throwing support to state licensure where it does not exist. I feel sorry for you Nathan and I'd like to have someone explain the upside of licensing to you. It seems it's not about having a license (like a driver's license) to practice histology. I fear it's just more about fattening state coffers and adding another level of bureauracracy to things. If you are educated (as you are Nate) and if you are academically eligible to sit for the registry exam. And if you can satisfactorily pass the exam, what has state licensing got to do with it? Are you a better histologist in New York because you're "licensed" as opposed to your neighbors in PA, for example who aren't? I think not. Does licensing prove something that science degrees and registry certifications do not? Maybe I just don't get it. And I'm not trying to pick a fight here with the supporters of licensing. I just haven't heard a good convincing argument for it yet. I'm also quite certain that even though monetary compensation has improved somewhat, the last thing most Histologists need is another payment. The privilege to work in a certain state, which is paid for (by you) nothing more?! I suppose some kindly employers out there somewhere could pay for it...good luck with that. Here's an idea, let's say you're degreed and registry eligible and/or have passed your board exam(s) and are certified. How 'bout the state says you've met the qualification for licensing, here you go! Nate you are degreed and certified and in my book and in the book of the current state I live in - Oregon - and the states I've worked in - Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota - you are more than qualified to work. I for one would not hesitate in the least to consider a person such as yourself for employment. Again you are more than qualified, even though you are "unlicensed". I guess I just don't understand how credentialing - degrees and certifications - aren't enough, but licensing is the magic ticket to better science/medicine/patient care/whatever. I'm sure some folks out there will bring on the firestorm, but again Nathan I feel sorry for you and I don't see the reasoning behind this. Tom Jasper Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS Histology Supervisor Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701 541/693-2677 tjas...@copc.net -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Jentsch Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:46 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees Paula, Let me tell you that this is an extremely frustrating point for me not for getting a job but for getting a license in New York State (which is related because I'm technically supposed to have a license to work). Despite the fact that I have a B.S. in a science field and have been working competently at my job for almost two years now, the state wants me to have an A.S. in histotechnology to get my license. They won't even consider HT certification as sufficient. If a collective group of experts in the fields of laboratory science and pathology say I'm qualified, why isn't that good enough for a bunch of beurocrats who can't even manage the pocket book of our state. Nate ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees
my sympathies here in the UAE, in the emirate of Abu Dhabi health care is governed by HAAD (Health Authority of Abu Dhabi) I have a licence issued in South Africa (accepted here) I am also the only person setting the HAAD licencing exam for Histotechs (in the emirate of AD) for all private labs HAAD now need all techs to be licenced in the emirate (like a state or a province) in which they work and so they are slowly issuing these coveted licences as the only recognised 'authority' who single-handedly sets and marks the HAAD Histology licence exam and passes/fails candidates, one would think that I should be automatically granted a HAAD licence... not so... they will issue my licence determined by the position I hold in the organisation which employs me and because my title has changed (NOT my job discription) they will now re-assess my credentials!! so dont complain guys - I think my confusion is greater than yours!!! AbuDhabiAnnie 2009/12/6 Rene J Buesa > Even if it is a totally frustrating issue, it does not matter what we think > or wish should happen. > The problem resides in how the state resolution that instituted the NY > licensure was redacted. That is the regulation we wanted or not, no matter > how unfair or even stupid it may be. > The problem does not reside in the states having licensures, but how under > what rules they are created. Once those rules are adopted, it is almost > impossible to change them. > So, unfortunately, you will have to follow their rules, you like it or not. > René J. > > > > --- On Sat, 12/5/09, godsgal...@aol.com wrote: > > > From: godsgal...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees > To: "Thomas Jasper" , > histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, "Nathan Jentsch" < > njblademas...@gmail.com> > Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:16 PM > > > It is a capitalist environment. If you are ht through ASCP that should be > all that counts. This is a way for states to collect extra funds > > Roxanne > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message- > From: "Thomas Jasper" > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:23:29 > To: Nathan Jentsch > Cc: > Subject: RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees > > One more reason to consider "carefully" before throwing support to state > licensure where it does not exist. I feel sorry for you Nathan and I'd > like to have someone explain the upside of licensing to you. It seems > it's not about having a license (like a driver's license) to practice > histology. I fear it's just more about fattening state coffers and > adding another level of bureauracracy to things. > > If you are educated (as you are Nate) and if you are academically > eligible to sit for the registry exam. And if you can satisfactorily > pass the exam, what has state licensing got to do with it? Are you a > better histologist in New York because you're "licensed" as opposed to > your neighbors in PA, for example who aren't? I think not. > > Does licensing prove something that science degrees and registry > certifications do not? Maybe I just don't get it. And I'm not trying > to pick a fight here with the supporters of licensing. I just haven't > heard a good convincing argument for it yet. I'm also quite certain > that even though monetary compensation has improved somewhat, the last > thing most Histologists need is another payment. The privilege to work > in a certain state, which is paid for (by you) nothing more?! > > I suppose some kindly employers out there somewhere could pay for > it...good luck with that. Here's an idea, let's say you're degreed and > registry eligible and/or have passed your board exam(s) and are > certified. How 'bout the state says you've met the qualification for > licensing, here you go! Nate you are degreed and certified and in my > book and in the book of the current state I live in - Oregon - and the > states I've worked in - Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota - you are more > than qualified to work. I for one would not hesitate in the least to > consider a person such as yourself for employment. Again you are more > than qualified, even though you are "unlicensed". > > I guess I just don't understand how credentialing - degrees and > certifications - aren't enough, but licensing is the magic ticket to > better science/medicine/patient care/whatever. I'm sure some folks out > there will bring on the firestorm, but again Nathan I feel sorry for you > and I don't see the reasoning behind this. > > Tom Jasper > > Thomas Jasper HT
Re: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees
Even if it is a totally frustrating issue, it does not matter what we think or wish should happen. The problem resides in how the state resolution that instituted the NY licensure was redacted. That is the regulation we wanted or not, no matter how unfair or even stupid it may be. The problem does not reside in the states having licensures, but how under what rules they are created. Once those rules are adopted, it is almost impossible to change them. So, unfortunately, you will have to follow their rules, you like it or not. René J. --- On Sat, 12/5/09, godsgal...@aol.com wrote: From: godsgal...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees To: "Thomas Jasper" , histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, "Nathan Jentsch" Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:16 PM It is a capitalist environment. If you are ht through ASCP that should be all that counts. This is a way for states to collect extra funds Roxanne Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Thomas Jasper" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:23:29 To: Nathan Jentsch Cc: Subject: RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees One more reason to consider "carefully" before throwing support to state licensure where it does not exist. I feel sorry for you Nathan and I'd like to have someone explain the upside of licensing to you. It seems it's not about having a license (like a driver's license) to practice histology. I fear it's just more about fattening state coffers and adding another level of bureauracracy to things. If you are educated (as you are Nate) and if you are academically eligible to sit for the registry exam. And if you can satisfactorily pass the exam, what has state licensing got to do with it? Are you a better histologist in New York because you're "licensed" as opposed to your neighbors in PA, for example who aren't? I think not. Does licensing prove something that science degrees and registry certifications do not? Maybe I just don't get it. And I'm not trying to pick a fight here with the supporters of licensing. I just haven't heard a good convincing argument for it yet. I'm also quite certain that even though monetary compensation has improved somewhat, the last thing most Histologists need is another payment. The privilege to work in a certain state, which is paid for (by you) nothing more?! I suppose some kindly employers out there somewhere could pay for it...good luck with that. Here's an idea, let's say you're degreed and registry eligible and/or have passed your board exam(s) and are certified. How 'bout the state says you've met the qualification for licensing, here you go! Nate you are degreed and certified and in my book and in the book of the current state I live in - Oregon - and the states I've worked in - Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota - you are more than qualified to work. I for one would not hesitate in the least to consider a person such as yourself for employment. Again you are more than qualified, even though you are "unlicensed". I guess I just don't understand how credentialing - degrees and certifications - aren't enough, but licensing is the magic ticket to better science/medicine/patient care/whatever. I'm sure some folks out there will bring on the firestorm, but again Nathan I feel sorry for you and I don't see the reasoning behind this. Tom Jasper Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS Histology Supervisor Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701 541/693-2677 tjas...@copc.net -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Jentsch Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:46 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees Paula, Let me tell you that this is an extremely frustrating point for me not for getting a job but for getting a license in New York State (which is related because I'm technically supposed to have a license to work). Despite the fact that I have a B.S. in a science field and have been working competently at my job for almost two years now, the state wants me to have an A.S. in histotechnology to get my license. They won't even consider HT certification as sufficient. If a collective group of experts in the fields of laboratory science and pathology say I'm qualified, why isn't that good enough for a bunch of beurocrats who can't even manage the pocket book of our state. Nate ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu h
Re: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees
It is a capitalist environment. If you are ht through ASCP that should be all that counts. This is a way for states to collect extra funds Roxanne Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Thomas Jasper" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:23:29 To: Nathan Jentsch Cc: Subject: RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees One more reason to consider "carefully" before throwing support to state licensure where it does not exist. I feel sorry for you Nathan and I'd like to have someone explain the upside of licensing to you. It seems it's not about having a license (like a driver's license) to practice histology. I fear it's just more about fattening state coffers and adding another level of bureauracracy to things. If you are educated (as you are Nate) and if you are academically eligible to sit for the registry exam. And if you can satisfactorily pass the exam, what has state licensing got to do with it? Are you a better histologist in New York because you're "licensed" as opposed to your neighbors in PA, for example who aren't? I think not. Does licensing prove something that science degrees and registry certifications do not? Maybe I just don't get it. And I'm not trying to pick a fight here with the supporters of licensing. I just haven't heard a good convincing argument for it yet. I'm also quite certain that even though monetary compensation has improved somewhat, the last thing most Histologists need is another payment. The privilege to work in a certain state, which is paid for (by you) nothing more?! I suppose some kindly employers out there somewhere could pay for it...good luck with that. Here's an idea, let's say you're degreed and registry eligible and/or have passed your board exam(s) and are certified. How 'bout the state says you've met the qualification for licensing, here you go! Nate you are degreed and certified and in my book and in the book of the current state I live in - Oregon - and the states I've worked in - Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota - you are more than qualified to work. I for one would not hesitate in the least to consider a person such as yourself for employment. Again you are more than qualified, even though you are "unlicensed". I guess I just don't understand how credentialing - degrees and certifications - aren't enough, but licensing is the magic ticket to better science/medicine/patient care/whatever. I'm sure some folks out there will bring on the firestorm, but again Nathan I feel sorry for you and I don't see the reasoning behind this. Tom Jasper Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS Histology Supervisor Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701 541/693-2677 tjas...@copc.net -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Jentsch Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:46 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees Paula, Let me tell you that this is an extremely frustrating point for me not for getting a job but for getting a license in New York State (which is related because I'm technically supposed to have a license to work). Despite the fact that I have a B.S. in a science field and have been working competently at my job for almost two years now, the state wants me to have an A.S. in histotechnology to get my license. They won't even consider HT certification as sufficient. If a collective group of experts in the fields of laboratory science and pathology say I'm qualified, why isn't that good enough for a bunch of beurocrats who can't even manage the pocket book of our state. Nate ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees
One more reason to consider "carefully" before throwing support to state licensure where it does not exist. I feel sorry for you Nathan and I'd like to have someone explain the upside of licensing to you. It seems it's not about having a license (like a driver's license) to practice histology. I fear it's just more about fattening state coffers and adding another level of bureauracracy to things. If you are educated (as you are Nate) and if you are academically eligible to sit for the registry exam. And if you can satisfactorily pass the exam, what has state licensing got to do with it? Are you a better histologist in New York because you're "licensed" as opposed to your neighbors in PA, for example who aren't? I think not. Does licensing prove something that science degrees and registry certifications do not? Maybe I just don't get it. And I'm not trying to pick a fight here with the supporters of licensing. I just haven't heard a good convincing argument for it yet. I'm also quite certain that even though monetary compensation has improved somewhat, the last thing most Histologists need is another payment. The privilege to work in a certain state, which is paid for (by you) nothing more?! I suppose some kindly employers out there somewhere could pay for it...good luck with that. Here's an idea, let's say you're degreed and registry eligible and/or have passed your board exam(s) and are certified. How 'bout the state says you've met the qualification for licensing, here you go! Nate you are degreed and certified and in my book and in the book of the current state I live in - Oregon - and the states I've worked in - Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota - you are more than qualified to work. I for one would not hesitate in the least to consider a person such as yourself for employment. Again you are more than qualified, even though you are "unlicensed". I guess I just don't understand how credentialing - degrees and certifications - aren't enough, but licensing is the magic ticket to better science/medicine/patient care/whatever. I'm sure some folks out there will bring on the firestorm, but again Nathan I feel sorry for you and I don't see the reasoning behind this. Tom Jasper Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS Histology Supervisor Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701 541/693-2677 tjas...@copc.net -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Jentsch Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:46 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Bachelor's Degrees Paula, Let me tell you that this is an extremely frustrating point for me not for getting a job but for getting a license in New York State (which is related because I'm technically supposed to have a license to work). Despite the fact that I have a B.S. in a science field and have been working competently at my job for almost two years now, the state wants me to have an A.S. in histotechnology to get my license. They won't even consider HT certification as sufficient. If a collective group of experts in the fields of laboratory science and pathology say I'm qualified, why isn't that good enough for a bunch of beurocrats who can't even manage the pocket book of our state. Nate ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
