Re: [Histonet] Leica Bond Max - any opinions?

2009-04-01 Thread Dolores_Fischer
Michelle,

We also only work with animal tissue.   Have you considered researching
Biocare's Intellipath immunostainer?  We also love their products and this
is an open system.   I am not the one who made the purchase decision or
used both of the stainers, but, although the Leica immunostainer was also
well liked, for our purposes (animal tissue), the Intellipath was chosen.


Dolroes

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RE: [Histonet] Leica Bond Max - any opinions?

2009-04-01 Thread Jackie M O'Connor
I agree with Linda.   I researched 5 different automated IHC stainers to 
be used for toxicology research applications, and found the intelliPATH to 
be the best solution for our needs.
Biocare, as well, has a vast array of anti rat and mouse primary 
antibodies and detection systems.   Additionally, the cost for the 
intelliPATH is quite reasonable, compared to the other platforms.

Jackie O'




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I would really suggest you look closely at the Intellipath from BioCare. 
They are a truly open system.
Linda

Linda Blazek HT (ASCP)
Manager/Supervisor
GI Pathology of Dayton
7415 Brandt Pike
Huber Heights, OH 45424
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Email: lbla...@digestivespecialists.com

 


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michelle 
MacVeigh-Aloni
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:39 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Leica Bond Max - any opinions?

Hi all,

I am researching the Leica Bond Max immunostainer and I like its features 
as advertised. 

The advertisement however states that the system is completely open, but 
after discussing it in length with the Leica rep I am finding that this is 
actually not so... 

We are a research core and work with mice and rats. Most of the pre-made 
antibody are designed towards human tests, so we won't use them. Then we 
would still be stuck with lots of money for consumables (as I understood 
all sold as kits with the antibodies included). We won't be using any of 
the antibodies, only the rest of the solutions... Is there a way out of 
this trap? Is there something that I didn't understand?

My question is: 
Does anybody use Leica Bond as an open system and use other companies 
antibody, buffers and antigen retrieval protocols? If you do, what have 
you done so far? (Would you share your protocols?) We like the BioCare 
products and our helpful rep :-) 
Did anybody purchase the Research dongle? Do we really need it? How did it 
help you improve your applications? I was told that depending on what I 
want unlocked, we would have to spend $14000 to $27000 extra for it. 
OUCH!!! This is not a hospital where we can charge the insurance or 
patients for this... 

I need this info ASAP, because we have to make our decision in a day and 
there is no time to demo the unit (nor anything else).
I understand that it is great for pathology, but how about animal 
research? It costs A LOT!!! We better know what are we getting ourselves 
into.

 Please help! Any advise and suggestions that I can get would be highly 
appreciated.

Michelle Mac Veigh Aloni MS, HTL
USC School of Medicine 
Department of GI and Liver
Los Angeles, CA
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RE: [Histonet] Leica Bond Max - any opinions?

2009-04-01 Thread Blazek, Linda
I would really suggest you look closely at the Intellipath from BioCare.  They 
are a truly open system.
Linda

Linda Blazek HT (ASCP)
Manager/Supervisor
GI Pathology of Dayton
7415 Brandt Pike
Huber Heights, OH 45424
Phone: (937) 293-4424 ext 7118
Email: lbla...@digestivespecialists.com

 


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michelle 
MacVeigh-Aloni
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:39 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Leica Bond Max - any opinions?

Hi all,

I am researching the Leica Bond Max immunostainer and I like its features as 
advertised. 

The advertisement however states that the system is completely open, but after 
discussing it in length with the Leica rep I am finding that this is actually 
not so... 

We are a research core and work with mice and rats. Most of the pre-made 
antibody are designed towards human tests, so we won't use them. Then we would 
still be stuck with lots of money for consumables (as I understood all sold as 
kits with the antibodies included). We won't be using any of the antibodies, 
only the rest of the solutions... Is there a way out of this trap? Is there 
something that I didn't understand?

My question is: 
Does anybody use Leica Bond as an open system and use other companies antibody, 
buffers and antigen retrieval protocols? If you do, what have you done so far? 
(Would you share your protocols?) We like the BioCare products and our helpful 
rep :-) 
Did anybody purchase the Research dongle? Do we really need it? How did it help 
you improve your applications? I was told that depending on what I want 
unlocked, we would have to spend $14000 to $27000 extra for it. OUCH!!! This is 
not a hospital where we can charge the insurance or patients for this... 

I need this info ASAP, because we have to make our decision in a day and there 
is no time to demo the unit (nor anything else).
I understand that it is great for pathology, but how about animal research? It 
costs A LOT!!! We better know what are we getting ourselves into.

 Please help! Any advise and suggestions that I can get would be highly 
appreciated.

Michelle Mac Veigh Aloni MS, HTL
USC School of Medicine 
Department of GI and Liver
Los Angeles, CA
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