Re: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
I'm sorry you feel that way but my responses have been respectful and courteous even as I have been attacked for making a service available to those who need it. If my advertising was not of interest to anyone in particular it is easy just to ignore. I'm just not understanding how someone can tear down a person for mentioning an available service and in the course of defending my business I get backlash. I didn't ask to be singled out in a derogatory manner on a public forum. And I should have allowed someone to throw their personal fit at me for the second time whom I had absolutely no ill feelings toward? I just don't get this at all. This could have been handled easily and privately by respectfully being asked if I was aware of the histonet 'custom' of not advertising and that it would be frowned upon since this isn't a forum for commercial interests. I would have relented and moved on. On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Lori Harris wrote: > Well, if I had ever thought of using your services in the past, after reading > this post I would never consider it. You should have quit responding a couple > of posts ago. > > Lori > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Contact > HistoCare > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:49 PM > To: Jay Lundgren > Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you. > > Ok, let me put this issue to bed. > It's fine you feel you need to be the > voice for those who have all the help they need and will never need the > services of a histology professional to help cover staffing shortages or > inadequate/ineffective staffing. > > There are thousands of subscribers to this list and I respect every single > one of them. HistoCare is for those who NEED professional assistance on an > interim basis. And let's be clear, I'm not "just a tech looking for job once > in a while". I'm a professional extending my expertise and invaluable > abilities to help when the need arises on relatively short notice without > compromising patient care. > > Your messages seem to have a very petty tone and not respectful of the nature > of the work we do. It's almost as if you are not even of this profession. > I care about all those people who go to doctor to have a million tests done > to see what's wrong with them and have to wait days and weeks before they get > any kind of news to settle their nerves or some glimmer of hope. I want to > minimize that inconvenience as much as I can. > > I am a real person first, a histology professional second on the other side > of this email just like there is a real patient on the other side of that > slide. > > You only care about HistoCare "advertising" on one of the few forums > histology professionals have to exchange thoughts, ideas, and RESOURCES. If > the best you can add to histonet is criticism, it doesn't need you or those > like you. > > This is a small community with very high turnover, low job satisfaction, some > employed individuals with marginal or inadequate abilities, and little > interest in others to want to break into this profession. Heck even the ones > that's been his field for a long time express dismay, let alone the newbies > who can't get the proper support from their own supervisors! Good grief! > > Those who rely on histonet for advice and ideas should also be able to search > for dependable lab support and hope that there is a good resource for them to > call upon. > > Please do me a favor and respectfully bow out and resist the urge to respond > further as I have no interest in debating. I'd rather spend my time being > productive. > > There isn't a policy specifically stating i can't make HistoCare available > for those who may search for assistance. Lets not forget Histonet is a > courtesy to us all for interests in histology and what it is not, is a > vehicle to complain. > > I was initially open to your suggestions for alternatives and offered you the > opportunity to respond with solutions acceptable to 'you' but I see you would > rather be a complainer than a helper. > > Any future responses from you referring to this matter directly or indirectly > will be considered harassment and forwarded to the appropriate parties. > > Sincerely HistoCare > > www.HistoCare.com > > > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jay Lundgren wrote: > >> I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this. I have received >> private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to reply to >> all. I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy. >> >> The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are >> moot. >> >> The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on Histonet. >> >> The staffing agencies that occasionally post on here are offering a list
RE: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
What was the initial purpose for starting the Histonet, I assume it was to offer a forum for Histotech to get assistance with problems they may encounter. It offends me when there are those that feel they can control what is posted, the histonet is for the group not a few individuals. Histocare may be excessive in their postings but if it does not apply to you don't read it. They are no different then the other staffing agencies posting job listing because in turn they are promoting their company. Both provide a service, again if you don't need their service don't read it. However someone may need their services and they should not be excluded. Just my two cents worth! -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lori Harris Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:12 AM To: Contact HistoCare; Jay Lundgren Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you. Well, if I had ever thought of using your services in the past, after reading this post I would never consider it. You should have quit responding a couple of posts ago. Lori -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Contact HistoCare Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:49 PM To: Jay Lundgren Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you. Ok, let me put this issue to bed. It's fine you feel you need to be the voice for those who have all the help they need and will never need the services of a histology professional to help cover staffing shortages or inadequate/ineffective staffing. There are thousands of subscribers to this list and I respect every single one of them. HistoCare is for those who NEED professional assistance on an interim basis. And let's be clear, I'm not "just a tech looking for job once in a while". I'm a professional extending my expertise and invaluable abilities to help when the need arises on relatively short notice without compromising patient care. Your messages seem to have a very petty tone and not respectful of the nature of the work we do. It's almost as if you are not even of this profession. I care about all those people who go to doctor to have a million tests done to see what's wrong with them and have to wait days and weeks before they get any kind of news to settle their nerves or some glimmer of hope. I want to minimize that inconvenience as much as I can. I am a real person first, a histology professional second on the other side of this email just like there is a real patient on the other side of that slide. You only care about HistoCare "advertising" on one of the few forums histology professionals have to exchange thoughts, ideas, and RESOURCES. If the best you can add to histonet is criticism, it doesn't need you or those like you. This is a small community with very high turnover, low job satisfaction, some employed individuals with marginal or inadequate abilities, and little interest in others to want to break into this profession. Heck even the ones that's been his field for a long time express dismay, let alone the newbies who can't get the proper support from their own supervisors! Good grief! Those who rely on histonet for advice and ideas should also be able to search for dependable lab support and hope that there is a good resource for them to call upon. Please do me a favor and respectfully bow out and resist the urge to respond further as I have no interest in debating. I'd rather spend my time being productive. There isn't a policy specifically stating i can't make HistoCare available for those who may search for assistance. Lets not forget Histonet is a courtesy to us all for interests in histology and what it is not, is a vehicle to complain. I was initially open to your suggestions for alternatives and offered you the opportunity to respond with solutions acceptable to 'you' but I see you would rather be a complainer than a helper. Any future responses from you referring to this matter directly or indirectly will be considered harassment and forwarded to the appropriate parties. Sincerely HistoCare www.HistoCare.com On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jay Lundgren wrote: > I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this. I have received > private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to reply to > all. I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy. > > The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are > moot. > > The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on Histonet. > > The staffing agencies that occasional
RE: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
Well, if I had ever thought of using your services in the past, after reading this post I would never consider it. You should have quit responding a couple of posts ago. Lori -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Contact HistoCare Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:49 PM To: Jay Lundgren Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you. Ok, let me put this issue to bed. It's fine you feel you need to be the voice for those who have all the help they need and will never need the services of a histology professional to help cover staffing shortages or inadequate/ineffective staffing. There are thousands of subscribers to this list and I respect every single one of them. HistoCare is for those who NEED professional assistance on an interim basis. And let's be clear, I'm not "just a tech looking for job once in a while". I'm a professional extending my expertise and invaluable abilities to help when the need arises on relatively short notice without compromising patient care. Your messages seem to have a very petty tone and not respectful of the nature of the work we do. It's almost as if you are not even of this profession. I care about all those people who go to doctor to have a million tests done to see what's wrong with them and have to wait days and weeks before they get any kind of news to settle their nerves or some glimmer of hope. I want to minimize that inconvenience as much as I can. I am a real person first, a histology professional second on the other side of this email just like there is a real patient on the other side of that slide. You only care about HistoCare "advertising" on one of the few forums histology professionals have to exchange thoughts, ideas, and RESOURCES. If the best you can add to histonet is criticism, it doesn't need you or those like you. This is a small community with very high turnover, low job satisfaction, some employed individuals with marginal or inadequate abilities, and little interest in others to want to break into this profession. Heck even the ones that's been his field for a long time express dismay, let alone the newbies who can't get the proper support from their own supervisors! Good grief! Those who rely on histonet for advice and ideas should also be able to search for dependable lab support and hope that there is a good resource for them to call upon. Please do me a favor and respectfully bow out and resist the urge to respond further as I have no interest in debating. I'd rather spend my time being productive. There isn't a policy specifically stating i can't make HistoCare available for those who may search for assistance. Lets not forget Histonet is a courtesy to us all for interests in histology and what it is not, is a vehicle to complain. I was initially open to your suggestions for alternatives and offered you the opportunity to respond with solutions acceptable to 'you' but I see you would rather be a complainer than a helper. Any future responses from you referring to this matter directly or indirectly will be considered harassment and forwarded to the appropriate parties. Sincerely HistoCare www.HistoCare.com On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jay Lundgren wrote: > I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this. I have received > private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to reply to > all. I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy. > > The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are > moot. > > The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on Histonet. > > The staffing agencies that occasionally post on here are offering a list of > open jobs. You are soliciting for your services, three times in one week. > (9/25, 9/26, 10/1) > > Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or > selling. I hope it stays that way. > > Sincerely, > > Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
I would like to ask either Sandy Cope-Yokoyama M.D. or Linda R. Margraf, M.D. to step in and try to restore order. The Histonet must remain the primary choice for the exchange of information pertaining to histotechnology and related fields. This is not the place to make threats of harassment. The progression of this string is becoming way to common and the name calling and threats has to stop or those of us interested in supporting Histotechnology will have to find a different place to communicate. William DeSalvo, B.S., HTL(ASCP) Owner/Consultant, Collaborative Advantage Consulting > From: cont...@histocare.com > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:49:05 -0500 > To: jaylundg...@gmail.com > CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you. > > Ok, let me put this issue to bed. > It's fine you feel you need to be the > voice for those who have all the help they need and will never need the > services of a histology professional to help cover staffing shortages or > inadequate/ineffective staffing. > > There are thousands of subscribers to this list and I respect every single > one of them. HistoCare is for those who NEED professional assistance on an > interim basis. And let's be clear, I'm not "just a tech looking for job once > in a while". I'm a professional extending my expertise and invaluable > abilities to help when the need arises on relatively short notice without > compromising patient care. > > Your messages seem to have a very petty tone and not respectful of the nature > of the work we do. It's almost as if you are not even of this profession. > I care about all those people who go to doctor to have a million tests done > to see what's wrong with them and have to wait days and weeks before they get > any kind of news to settle their nerves or some glimmer of hope. I want to > minimize that inconvenience as much as I can. > > I am a real person first, a histology professional second on the other side > of this email just like there is a real patient on the other side of that > slide. > > You only care about HistoCare "advertising" on one of the few forums > histology professionals have to exchange thoughts, ideas, and RESOURCES. If > the best you can add to histonet is criticism, it doesn't need you or those > like you. > > This is a small community with very high turnover, low job satisfaction, some > employed individuals with marginal or inadequate abilities, and little > interest in others to want to break into this profession. Heck even the ones > that's been his field for a long time express dismay, let alone the newbies > who can't get the proper support from their own supervisors! Good grief! > > Those who rely on histonet for advice and ideas should also be able to search > for dependable lab support and hope that there is a good resource for them to > call upon. > > Please do me a favor and respectfully bow out and resist the urge to respond > further as I have no interest in debating. I'd rather spend my time being > productive. > > There isn't a policy specifically stating i can't make HistoCare available > for those who may search for assistance. Lets not forget Histonet is a > courtesy to us all for interests in histology and what it is not, is a > vehicle to complain. > > I was initially open to your suggestions for alternatives and offered you the > opportunity to respond with solutions acceptable to 'you' but I see you would > rather be a complainer than a helper. > > Any future responses from you referring to this matter directly or indirectly > will be considered harassment and forwarded to the appropriate parties. > > Sincerely HistoCare > > www.HistoCare.com > > > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jay Lundgren wrote: > > > I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this. I have > > received private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to > > reply to all. I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy. > > > > The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are > > moot. > > > > The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on > > Histonet. > > > > The staffing agencies that occasionally post on here are offering a list of > > open jobs. You are soliciting for your services, three times in one week. > > (9/25, 9/26, 10/1) > > > > Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or > > selling. I hope it stays that way. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL > > (ASCP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.ed
Re: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
Kudos to you too for reading the entire message. If you had, you'd see the other person initiated the public belittling. I am not some pushover who won't defend my professionalism when subtly attacked by some closed minded person and his cheerleaders. I didn't ask for this. It was brought to me. Do you think every message you or others send or respond to is important or relevant to every single subscriber? I'll be the first to tell you they aren't, the difference being the other subscribers practice self control and simply ignore topics which don't pertain to their particular need at the time. It takes less effort to delete messages from the list than to respond to something of no value to the subscriber. On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Marc DeCarlo wrote: > Go get em Jay! I agree with you 100% this forum should be kept free of > blatant advertising. I'd also like to give you credit for not stooping to the > level of this anonymous poster after he or she publicly tried to belittle > you. > > Marc DeCarlo > > On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, Jay Lundgren wrote: >> I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this. I have >> received private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to >> reply to all. I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy. >> >> The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are >> moot. >> >> The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on >> Histonet. >> >> The staffing agencies that* occasionally* post on here are offering a list >> of open jobs. You are soliciting for your services, three times in one >> week. (9/25, 9/26, 10/1) >> >> Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or >> selling. I hope it stays that way. >> >> Sincerely, >> >>Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL >> (ASCP) >> ___ >> Histonet mailing list >> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
Go get em Jay! I agree with you 100% this forum should be kept free of blatant advertising. I'd also like to give you credit for not stooping to the level of this anonymous poster after he or she publicly tried to belittle you. Marc DeCarlo On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, Jay Lundgren wrote: > I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this. I have > received private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to > reply to all. I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy. > > The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are > moot. > > The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on > Histonet. > > The staffing agencies that* occasionally* post on here are offering a list > of open jobs. You are soliciting for your services, three times in one > week. (9/25, 9/26, 10/1) > > Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or > selling. I hope it stays that way. > > Sincerely, > >Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL > (ASCP) > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.
Is advertising allowed on Histonet now, or not? When I brought up this issue before, people responded, "Oh, if it's just a tech looking for a job once in a while..." etc. This is at least the third time this COMPANY has advertised on here. This forum is not meant for marketing. I'm sure all the other staffing agencies would love to advertise on Histonet for free. Could I get the opinion of a moderator? Sincerely, Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet