Re: [Histonet] Salary exempt/nonexempt status
hings are usually different in CA but in FL this is more or less as it works:1- if you are Supervisor or Manager, even when you have to clock in/out no matter how many ours extra you work, you do not get paid overtime over your salary.2- if you are "bench worker" you clock in/out and IF you work more than 40 hours week the difference = overtime if you work less than 40 hours week = your are paid for the worked hours. Even if you some days work >8 hours you may be scheduled to work <8 hours some other days to compensate.I remember that when I retired I calculated that I had worked in excess of 3 YEARS unpaid because I was manager (life is tough!)René J. On Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:16 PM, GMail wrote: Can someone please help me, I've been losing sleep over this ever since moving to CA and working here. If you are paid a salary but NOT a supervisor or manager are you considered exempt or nonexempt? I was told by someone that if you are salary but not in a managerial position you are considered nonexempt and are entitled to earn OT. I have tried searching the laws in CA and the only thing I could find is: 1. If you earn twice the wage of minimum wage you are exempt. 2. If you are a type of professional (doctors and lawyers etc) or in a managerial position you are exempt With that being said, I believe a lot of people in the U.S with other professions make twice the wage of #1, so does that mean they are all exempt? Please help me answer this question! Thank you in advance! Sent from my iPhone ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Salary exempt/nonexempt status
Are you paid a. by the hour or was your pay quoted to you by b. yearly salary? C. Do you fill out a time card to record your hours? If A and C are yes, you are non exempt. Your human resource department should have the answer. If you don't have an HR dept and you cant ask your boss to clarify, then you have a crummy relationship with your boss, and should look for a better job. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Sebree Linda A wrote: > > I fought this very same battle having been salaried for many years and > gradually working more and more OT. I worked solely with hourly employees > and was not a manager or supervisor. Everyone I worked with accrued OT pay > but I did not and I was usually working the most OT. I contacted our state > office of labor and workforce development and learned about the > exempt/nonexempt statuses. Upon bringing this information to both my > institution's personnel department and eventually my manager, they reviewed > my position description along with several other employees. They resolved > the issue by making me and some other people hourly with no cut in pay so now > I still work some overtime but accrue OT pay. I also received back pay from > 2 years of overtime. > > Maybe CA has a labor department that could help you as well. > > Good luck, > > Linda A. Sebree > > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of GMail > [nguy0...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:16 PM > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] Salary exempt/nonexempt status > > Can someone please help me, I've been losing sleep over this ever since > moving to CA and working here. > > If you are paid a salary but NOT a supervisor or manager are you considered > exempt or nonexempt? > > I was told by someone that if you are salary but not in a managerial position > you are considered nonexempt and are entitled to earn OT. > > I have tried searching the laws in CA and the only thing I could find is: 1. > If you earn twice the wage of minimum wage you are exempt. 2. If you are a > type of professional (doctors and lawyers etc) or in a managerial position > you are exempt > > With that being said, I believe a lot of people in the U.S with other > professions make twice the wage of #1, so does that mean they are all exempt? > > Please help me answer this question! > > Thank you in advance! > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Salary exempt/nonexempt status
I fought this very same battle having been salaried for many years and gradually working more and more OT. I worked solely with hourly employees and was not a manager or supervisor. Everyone I worked with accrued OT pay but I did not and I was usually working the most OT. I contacted our state office of labor and workforce development and learned about the exempt/nonexempt statuses. Upon bringing this information to both my institution's personnel department and eventually my manager, they reviewed my position description along with several other employees. They resolved the issue by making me and some other people hourly with no cut in pay so now I still work some overtime but accrue OT pay. I also received back pay from 2 years of overtime. Maybe CA has a labor department that could help you as well. Good luck, Linda A. Sebree From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of GMail [nguy0...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:16 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Salary exempt/nonexempt status Can someone please help me, I've been losing sleep over this ever since moving to CA and working here. If you are paid a salary but NOT a supervisor or manager are you considered exempt or nonexempt? I was told by someone that if you are salary but not in a managerial position you are considered nonexempt and are entitled to earn OT. I have tried searching the laws in CA and the only thing I could find is: 1. If you earn twice the wage of minimum wage you are exempt. 2. If you are a type of professional (doctors and lawyers etc) or in a managerial position you are exempt With that being said, I believe a lot of people in the U.S with other professions make twice the wage of #1, so does that mean they are all exempt? Please help me answer this question! Thank you in advance! Sent from my iPhone ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] SALARY
Not so good when you fall into a higher tax bracket and uncle sam takes 25% of your salary and the insurance with dental weekly would have cost me around $232.55 a week...no thanks From: joelle weaver [mailto:joellewea...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:35 AM To: Heath, Nancy L.; jshel...@sanfordburnham.org; caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu; rcar...@harthosp.org; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I know the cost of living is greater on the east coast, but that sounds good to me. The insurance is not better, and as an HTL I make less than 1/2 of that! Things are determined by the market I realize, but all these postings are sure making me feel bad and also realize that I am not marketing myself well Joelle Weaver MAOM, BA, (HTL) ASCP > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:29:12 -0400 > From: nhe...@lifespan.org > To: jshel...@sanfordburnham.org; caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu; rcar...@harthosp.org; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > CC: > > Just got offered a lead tech position, salary of $85600.00 in a private lab opened by a group of docs. Didn't take it because the health insurance plan they offered was lousey. 75% health covered with a 250.00 deductable, dental covered at 60% and no coverage for family or husbandwould of had to pay that out of pocket. > I'm in New England. > > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of John Shelley > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:25 PM > To: Pratt, Caroline; Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > > With all that said what are your going rates in this area that you are speaking. > > Kind Regards! > > John J Shelley > > > > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, Caroline > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:19 PM > To: Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > > If that is an option, I would agree, but non-profit teaching hospitals > have compensation ranges and grids according to education and > experience. We keep every employee with the same education and skill > set at the same compensation for an equitable pay system. If we feel > our employees are being under paid we will conduct a market analysis and > the rates will be increased for all applicable employees if the market > analysis justifies it. > > Car :) > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM > To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Pratt, > Caroline > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > > I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of > experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. > It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need > to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable > employees in the laboratory today! > > Richard > > Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD > Director, Histology & Immunopathology > Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs > Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology > Hartford Hospital > 80 Seymour Street > Hartford, CT 06102 > (860) 545-1596 Office > (860) 545-2204 Fax > > > >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM > >>> > I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and > education. > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of > kcasti...@frii.com > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM > To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] SALARY > > HI EVERYONE, > > WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID > THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM > LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > > > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for > the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If > the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent > responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that you have received th
RE: [Histonet] SALARY
I know the cost of living is greater on the east coast, but that sounds good to me. The insurance is not better, and as an HTL I make less than 1/2 of that! Things are determined by the market I realize, but all these postings are sure making me feel bad and also realize that I am not marketing myself well Joelle Weaver MAOM, BA, (HTL) ASCP > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:29:12 -0400 > From: nhe...@lifespan.org > To: jshel...@sanfordburnham.org; caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu; > rcar...@harthosp.org; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > CC: > > Just got offered a lead tech position, salary of $85600.00 in a private lab > opened by a group of docs. Didn't take it because the health insurance plan > they offered was lousey. 75% health covered with a 250.00 deductable, dental > covered at 60% and no coverage for family or husbandwould of had to pay > that out of pocket. > I'm in New England. > > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of John Shelley > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:25 PM > To: Pratt, Caroline; Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > > With all that said what are your going rates in this area that you are > speaking. > > Kind Regards! > > John J Shelley > > > > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, > Caroline > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:19 PM > To: Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > > If that is an option, I would agree, but non-profit teaching hospitals > have compensation ranges and grids according to education and > experience. We keep every employee with the same education and skill > set at the same compensation for an equitable pay system. If we feel > our employees are being under paid we will conduct a market analysis and > the rates will be increased for all applicable employees if the market > analysis justifies it. > > Car :) > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM > To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Pratt, > Caroline > Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY > > I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of > experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. > It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need > to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable > employees in the laboratory today! > > Richard > > Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD > Director, Histology & Immunopathology > Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs > Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology > Hartford Hospital > 80 Seymour Street > Hartford, CT 06102 > (860) 545-1596 Office > (860) 545-2204 Fax > > > >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM > >>> > I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and > education. > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of > kcasti...@frii.com > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM > To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] SALARY > > HI EVERYONE, > > WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID > THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM > LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > > > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for > the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If > the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent > responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that you have received this document in error and that any > review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. > > > > > > &
RE: [Histonet] SALARY
I agree :) -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Breeden, Sara Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:22 PM To: Podawiltz, Thomas; Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Caroline Pratt Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I nominate Dr. Cartun as the Patron Saint for Histopathology. We should work on a statue and a Mission Statement for him... ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] SALARY
Just got offered a lead tech position, salary of $85600.00 in a private lab opened by a group of docs. Didn't take it because the health insurance plan they offered was lousey. 75% health covered with a 250.00 deductable, dental covered at 60% and no coverage for family or husbandwould of had to pay that out of pocket. I'm in New England. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of John Shelley Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:25 PM To: Pratt, Caroline; Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY With all that said what are your going rates in this area that you are speaking. Kind Regards! John J Shelley -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, Caroline Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:19 PM To: Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY If that is an option, I would agree, but non-profit teaching hospitals have compensation ranges and grids according to education and experience. We keep every employee with the same education and skill set at the same compensation for an equitable pay system. If we feel our employees are being under paid we will conduct a market analysis and the rates will be increased for all applicable employees if the market analysis justifies it. Car :) -Original Message- From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Pratt, Caroline Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. - This message was secured by ZixCorp(R). The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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"Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today!" THANK YOU DR. CARTUN!! Nancy Heath, HT (ASCP) Neuropathology Technician Neuropathology Department Rhode Island Hospital President - Rhode Island Society for Histotechnology -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Cartun Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Caroline Pratt Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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Our hospital works the same way. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, Caroline Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:19 PM To: Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY If that is an option, I would agree, but non-profit teaching hospitals have compensation ranges and grids according to education and experience. We keep every employee with the same education and skill set at the same compensation for an equitable pay system. If we feel our employees are being under paid we will conduct a market analysis and the rates will be increased for all applicable employees if the market analysis justifies it. Car :) -Original Message- From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Pratt, Caroline Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. - This message was secured by ZixCorp(R). The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message and any included attachments are from Somerset Medical Center and are intended only for the addressee. The information contained in this message is confidential and may contain privileged, confidential, proprietary and/or trade secret information entitled to protection and/or exemption from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or use of such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender of the delivery error by e-mail or you may call Somerset Medical Center's computer Help Desk at 908-685-2200, ext. 4050. Be sure to visit Somerset Medical Center's Web site - www.somersetmedicalcenter.com - for the most up-to-date news, event listings, health information and more. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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I have been wondering what a new certified HTL in the Denver area might expect to be paid, this person has a couple of years of exclusive histology experience heavy on IHC, bright field and IF, and frozen sectioning expertise along with all other areas of histology. Regards, Patsy Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC IHCtech 12635 Montview Blvd. Ste.215 Aurora, CO 80045 720-859-4060 fax 720-859-4110 www.ihctech.net www.ihcrg.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:53 PM To: Langenberg Stacey ; caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu ; kcasti...@frii.com ; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] SALARY That sounds good to me! I have never been fortunate enough to have education weighted. Of course I know it depends on market, location, and cost of living. Makes me want to research and pack up! Joelle Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Langenberg Stacey Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:22:26 To: ; ; Subject: Re: [Histonet] SALARY What about certification? Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: "Pratt, Caroline" To: "kcasti...@frii.com" , "Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu" Subject: [Histonet] SALARY Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:24 am I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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That sounds good to me! I have never been fortunate enough to have education weighted. Of course I know it depends on market, location, and cost of living. Makes me want to research and pack up! Joelle Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Langenberg Stacey Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:22:26 To: ; ; Subject: Re: [Histonet] SALARY What about certification? Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: "Pratt, Caroline" To: "kcasti...@frii.com" , "Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu" Subject: [Histonet] SALARY Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:24 am I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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I nominate Dr. Cartun as the Patron Saint for Histopathology. We should work on a statue and a Mission Statement for him... ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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It's all relative to your area and absolute dollars aren't applicable outside a given region. For instance, here in the San Francisco Bay Area we have so many biotech companies and large medical centers sopping up histotechs that the going rate for even minimal experience is about $35/hr. Long term employees and supervisors can make over $50/hr. However, the cost of living is sky high, and just about everyone commutes quite a ways so recruiting from outside the area is extremely difficult - once people see how expensive it is and how far out they may have to live to afford housing we end up with very few applicants. Tim Morken Supervisor, Histology, IPOX UCSF Medical Center San Francisco, CA, USA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Cartun Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:52 AM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Caroline Pratt Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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With all that said what are your going rates in this area that you are speaking. Kind Regards! John J Shelley -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, Caroline Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:19 PM To: Richard Cartun; kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY If that is an option, I would agree, but non-profit teaching hospitals have compensation ranges and grids according to education and experience. We keep every employee with the same education and skill set at the same compensation for an equitable pay system. If we feel our employees are being under paid we will conduct a market analysis and the rates will be increased for all applicable employees if the market analysis justifies it. Car :) -Original Message- From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Pratt, Caroline Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. - This message was secured by ZixCorp(R). The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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If that is an option, I would agree, but non-profit teaching hospitals have compensation ranges and grids according to education and experience. We keep every employee with the same education and skill set at the same compensation for an equitable pay system. If we feel our employees are being under paid we will conduct a market analysis and the rates will be increased for all applicable employees if the market analysis justifies it. Car :) -Original Message- From: Richard Cartun [mailto:rcar...@harthosp.org] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Pratt, Caroline Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. - This message was secured by ZixCorp(R). The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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I like your world. I have seen more places that try to price Histology in the same range as CLA's not even close to MLT's. Tom -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Cartun Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 PM To: kcasti...@frii.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Caroline Pratt Subject: RE: [Histonet] SALARY I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet THIS MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL. This e-mail message and any attachments are proprietary and confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not print,distribute, or copy this message or any attachments. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message and any attachments from your computer. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of LRGHealthcare. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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I think that's low. If you find a good candidate with years of experience I would pay them whatever it takes to get them in the door. It's like "Free Agency" in baseball; if you want a good player, you need to put the "money on table". Histotechnologists are the most valuable employees in the laboratory today! Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> "Pratt, Caroline" 10/28/2011 9:21 AM >>> I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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What about certification? Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: "Pratt, Caroline" To: "kcasti...@frii.com" , "Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu" Subject: [Histonet] SALARY Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 7:24 am I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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I would say $28 to $32 dollars an hour depending on experience and education. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of kcasti...@frii.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:54 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] SALARY HI EVERYONE, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LEAD TECHS AND SUPERVISORS ARE GETTING PAID THESE DAYS. HAVE A FELLOW HISTO PERSON THAT IS RUNNING THEIR OWN DERM LAB AND DOING MOHS ALSO. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. KRISTY ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message.___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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Salaries in Texas are pretty low, which is one of the reasons I travel :) . I would guess $60-80 K / year, with Seton on the low end, and CPL on the top end. Depending on experience, of course. Who's looking for a supervisor, CPL? Jay A. Lundgren M.S., HTL (ASCP) ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
