Re: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
We have released patient's tissue with a copy of the relevant MSDS. Piero - Original Message - From: "Rosa Fields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Della Speranza, Vinnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "histonet" Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:40 AM Subject: RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches,what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I would have to agree, the vinegar sounds like a good solution. Rosa Fields, HT (ASCP) Gastroenterology Specialties Histology Supervisor 4545 R Street Lincoln, NE 68503 402-465-4545 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in the message and the documents accompanying this message contain information that is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, other than its return to the sender, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1810 - Release Date: 11/24/2008 2:36 PM ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Use brine as a base for all pickling. Mix 6 cups distilled water, 3 cups white vinegar and 1/2 cup pickling salt in a large pot. Boil gently. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Della Speranza, Vinnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for > religious reasons. > The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be > stored with her body parts. > > My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious > reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with > momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. > > It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a > specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it > wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my > institution. > > I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential > liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. > Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of > using vinegar for this purpose? > > > > Vinnie Della Speranza > > Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services > > Medical University of South Carolina > > 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 > > Charleston, South Carolina 29425 > > Tel: (843) 792-6353 > > Fax: (843) 792-8974 > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > -- The Unknown HT(ASCP) ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Would processing the entire specimen and embedding it in paraffin be a solution? Linda Blazek HT (ASCP) Manager/Supervisor GI Pathology of Dayton 7415 Brandt Pike Huber Heights, OH 45424 Phone: (937) 293-4424 ext 7118 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:17 AM To: 'Weber, Susan (VHACLE)'; histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I'm overwhelmed at the huge response. Thank you all. The patient was instructed to make arrangements with a funeral home. The patient is 29 yrs old and since the funeral home might be taking on the responsibility of storing for several decades, she's been unsuccessful in identifying one willing to assist her. I don't have any way to know what the mom's appendix is in. it's quite possible she obtained it before the regs on formaldehyde became so restrictive (mid- '80's I believe). The vinegar was thought to be a solution that would not grow organisms. The gall bladder has been cut down and now consists of a few very thin strips so I was concerned that allowing the tissue to air dry may appear (to the patient) that the specimen had been compromised. Have a great holiday everyone, and thank you again. Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 -Original Message- From: Weber, Susan (VHACLE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:07 AM To: Della Speranza, Vinnie; histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? Does she already have a funeral home picked out? Perhaps she can ask the funeral home to "store" it for her, and then release it only to a funeral home. I would consult my legal department to see what they feel is appropriate, that way you are dotting all your t's and crossing your eyes >.< as well! Susan M Weber HT(ASCP) Histology Supervisor Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center 10701 East Blvd Cleveland, Ohio 44106 (216) 791-3800 X6154 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
I'm overwhelmed at the huge response. Thank you all. The patient was instructed to make arrangements with a funeral home. The patient is 29 yrs old and since the funeral home might be taking on the responsibility of storing for several decades, she's been unsuccessful in identifying one willing to assist her. I don't have any way to know what the mom's appendix is in. it's quite possible she obtained it before the regs on formaldehyde became so restrictive (mid- '80's I believe). The vinegar was thought to be a solution that would not grow organisms. The gall bladder has been cut down and now consists of a few very thin strips so I was concerned that allowing the tissue to air dry may appear (to the patient) that the specimen had been compromised. Have a great holiday everyone, and thank you again. Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 -Original Message- From: Weber, Susan (VHACLE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:07 AM To: Della Speranza, Vinnie; histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? Does she already have a funeral home picked out? Perhaps she can ask the funeral home to "store" it for her, and then release it only to a funeral home. I would consult my legal department to see what they feel is appropriate, that way you are dotting all your t's and crossing your eyes >.< as well! Susan M Weber HT(ASCP) Histology Supervisor Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center 10701 East Blvd Cleveland, Ohio 44106 (216) 791-3800 X6154 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
I would have to agree, the vinegar sounds like a good solution. Rosa Fields, HT (ASCP) Gastroenterology Specialties Histology Supervisor 4545 R Street Lincoln, NE 68503 402-465-4545 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in the message and the documents accompanying this message contain information that is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, other than its return to the sender, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
I think it is a good idea of a pickled gall bladder. Do not add onions please! René J. --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Della Speranza, Vinnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Della Speranza, Vinnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? To: "histonet" Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 5:37 PM I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
I was is this "pickle" once, and we washed the specimen and then just gave it to the patient clean and dry in a clean container. It was then up to the patient to figure out what to do with the specimen. I believe they had it frozen at the funeral home. Sorry Vinnie, could not pass up the pickle joke here. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Does she already have a funeral home picked out? Perhaps she can ask the funeral home to "store" it for her, and then release it only to a funeral home. I would consult my legal department to see what they feel is appropriate, that way you are dotting all your t's and crossing your eyes >.< as well! Susan M Weber HT(ASCP) Histology Supervisor Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center 10701 East Blvd Cleveland, Ohio 44106 (216) 791-3800 X6154 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Vinnie, We had an issue with this concerning tonsils (the kids wanted them). We rinsed out the excess formalin after the final sign out by a pathologist (2 weeks), patted it dry and gave the sample to them in a clean container. This way it was fixed but they did not have the issue of formalin. I'm guessing that 2 weeks fixation should be sufficient for everything to be fixed. Bernice Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP) Northwestern University Pathology Core Facility ECOGPCO-RL 710 N Fairbanks Court Olson 8-421 Chicago,IL 60611 312-503-3723 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Vinnie You can also use glycerin. Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tony Henwood Sent: Mon 11/24/2008 7:29 PM To: Della Speranza, Vinnie; histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? Vinnie, You could use paraffin oil (also known as mineral oil). It is used successfully in museum techniques for the preservation of formalin fixed specimens. Rinse the formalin fixed specimen in water, place in ethanol (which will also bring back the colour), blot lightly and place in the oil. The oil has the added advantage that bile will not tend to leach out of the specimen. It also will not evaporate. See: Henwood (2002)"Color preservation in pathology museum specimens" published in Biotech Histochem 2002 Jul; 77(4): 230. Regards Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC) Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist Tel: 612 9845 3306 Fax: 612 9845 3318 the children's hospital at westmead Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 9:37 AM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message and any attachments are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of The Children's Hospital at Westmead This note also confirms that this email message has been virus scanned and although no computer viruses were detected, The Childrens Hospital at Westmead accepts no liability for any consequential damage resulting from email containing computer viruses. ** ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Vinnie, You could use paraffin oil (also known as mineral oil). It is used successfully in museum techniques for the preservation of formalin fixed specimens. Rinse the formalin fixed specimen in water, place in ethanol (which will also bring back the colour), blot lightly and place in the oil. The oil has the added advantage that bile will not tend to leach out of the specimen. It also will not evaporate. See: Henwood (2002)"Color preservation in pathology museum specimens" published in Biotech Histochem 2002 Jul; 77(4): 230. Regards Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC) Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist Tel: 612 9845 3306 Fax: 612 9845 3318 the children's hospital at westmead Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 9:37 AM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message and any attachments are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of The Children's Hospital at Westmead This note also confirms that this email message has been virus scanned and although no computer viruses were detected, The Childrens Hospital at Westmead accepts no liability for any consequential damage resulting from email containing computer viruses. ** ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
You know, I really think that the vinegar is a great idea! I can't think of any reason off-hand why it would be hazardous, flammable, toxic, or bring on any liability. Even the isopropyl can be flammable, and if you told her to use it, you might be somewhat at fault ( though I know a bit of a stretch). In any case, I think that I'll try to remember that in case I encounter any similar requests... Thanks Joelle> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:40:38 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?> CC: > > Could you give it to her in a plastic bag, with a container, and tell> her to store it in rubbing alcohol? j> > Joyce Weems> Pathology Manager> Saint Joseph's Hospital > 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE> Atlanta, GA 30342> Please note new phone and fax numbers> 678-843-7376 - Phone> 678-843-7831 - Fax> > > > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della> Speranza, Vinnie> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:37 PM> To: histonet> Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about> a gall bladder in vinegar ?> > I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for> religious reasons.> The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be> stored with her body parts.> > My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for> obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family> practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic.> > It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a> specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain> it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my> institution.> > I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the> potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered> hazardous.> Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think> of using vinegar for this purpose?> > > > Vinnie Della Speranza> > Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services> > Medical University of South Carolina> > 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309> > Charleston, South Carolina 29425> > Tel: (843) 792-6353> > Fax: (843) 792-8974> > ___> Histonet mailing list> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet> Confidentiality Notice:> This email, including any attachments is the > property of Catholic Health East and is intended > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). > It may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. Any unauthorized review, use,> disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are > not the intended recipient, please reply to the > sender that you have received the message in > error, then delete this message.> > > ___> Histonet mailing list> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ?
Could you give it to her in a plastic bag, with a container, and tell her to store it in rubbing alcohol? j Joyce Weems Pathology Manager Saint Joseph's Hospital 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE Atlanta, GA 30342 Please note new phone and fax numbers 678-843-7376 - Phone 678-843-7831 - Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, Vinnie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:37 PM To: histonet Subject: [Histonet] as Thanksgiving approaches, what do you think about a gall bladder in vinegar ? I have a patient requesting her gall bladder be returned to her for religious reasons. The premise I've been given is so that, upon death, the patient may be stored with her body parts. My facility has concerns about providing it to her in formalin (for obvious reasons) or alcohol. The patient admits this is a family practice with momma's appendix already being stored in the attic. It can get a bit toasty warm here in the South so attic storage of a specimen in alcohol may not be prudent and I can't be absolutely certain it wouldn't burn the house down, another potential liability for my institution. I'm tempted to give it to her in food grade vinegar, to avoid the potential liabilities from using anything that could be considered hazardous. Assuming that returning her gall bladder is a given, what do you think of using vinegar for this purpose? Vinnie Della Speranza Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services Medical University of South Carolina 165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 Tel: (843) 792-6353 Fax: (843) 792-8974 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet Confidentiality Notice: This email, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete this message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
