Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sue]

We have the same issue. It is bad when they try to use the same QA form for out 
of range 
proficiency testing. a +3 or +4 is IHC is not the same as 70 or 200 glucose 
result. The 
pathologists are haven real issues with it as well. 


S. Paturzo 




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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form- Inspector Perspective.

[joelle weaver]

Thank you- good reminder of what the true goals are.  




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
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> joellewea...@hotmail.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form- Inspector Perspective.
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 01:57:10 +
> 
> I recently had the great honor to serve as a CAP inspector in Arizona. The 
> lab we inspected will be accredited.   
> 
> Lest we forget as inspectors or future inspectors, I hope the below 
> perspective illuminates the purpose of the CAP inspection and helps preserve 
> the integrity of the program if adhered to.
> 
> As inspectors, we are trained to be thorough but to  simultaneously use 
> "objective judgment" i.e. " there may be several ways to meet the intent of 
> the question" and that "we must review all pertinent documentation and then 
> determine if the process meets the intent of the requirement".
> 
> Keeping in mind that the purpose of CAP inspection is not punitive but 
> "quality laboratory improvement to fulfill the regulatory purpose of the 
> inspection (CLIA)". Our focus should be, in the interest of time and  
> thoroughness "major compliance issue rather than nitpick". This helps us 
> maintain "professionalism and  preserve the peer-review nature of the 
> program".
> 
> So what is it that constitutes compliance? 
> Per CAP:
> "- One, that the laboratory has defined a policy, a procedure, or a plan "of 
> the three P's" for how they are going to do things in the lab. 
>   - Secondly, actual practices that matches those three P's. 
>   - Finally, documentation to support the fact that practice has indeed 
> matched policies and procedures."
> 
> So what is a deficiency? 
> 
> Per CAP:
> "A deficiency means that the lab did not meet the intent of the checklist 
> item.  It's not the wording; it's not the specifics. It is the intent".  If 
> any of the three above criteria are not yet met, we should cite a deficiency" 
> We are admonished to remember that "there may be many ways to accomplish an 
> objective. The lab may not do things exactly the way that your lab does, but 
> may still be meeting the intent of the requirement(s). Citing a laboratory 
> for "not doing it the way we do it" is a common inspector error."
> 
> Per CAP, partial compliance is the following:  "If there is partial 
> compliance (e.g., some records are inconsistent, one bottle of reagent was 
> not labeled completely, a few temperatures were not recorded, etc.), you must 
> judge whether the degree of non-compliance is likely to have adverse effects 
> on test accuracy, patient care, or worker safety. Also, determine if the lab 
> staff was aware of the inconsistency and if corrective actions were 
> performed. If adverse effects are likely or if there are definite patterns 
> (e.g., missing temperatures only on weekends) without corrective actions" 
> only then we must cite a deficiency.
> 
> Bottom-line, If you feel you were incorrectly cited since you met the intent 
> of the question, you should  appeal to  CAP. It is an inspected lab's right.  
> If a phase 11  deficiency, submit your evidence of compliance and the Lab  
> Accreditation Committee will either overrule or sustain.  I suspect they will 
> overrule.
> 
> Just saying, but based upon just what you described, it sounds like you all 
> met the intent of the question.
> 
> MSgt Ian R Bernard, HT(ASCP), MSHA-UAB
> Anatomic Pathology Lab Manager
> USAF- Active Duty
> ibern...@uab.edu
> ian.bern...@comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rathborne, 
> Toni
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:04 AM
> To: 'Sheila Haas'; joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> CAP inspectors may have opinions which differ from our own, and their 
> interpretation of standards may also be different. Have you challenged this 
> deficiency with CAP? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila Haas
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:52 AM
> To: joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> What we had here, which did not meet the CAP i

RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[joelle weaver]

 Has some nice tables that summarize things for a good starting point 
especially if you are building from "scratch" .  Thank you for sharing this. 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:36:01 -0400
> From: cyt...@cox.net
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> I was having the same problems with developing competency records for my 
> cytotechnologist.  I found this article from ADVACE for Adminstrators to be 
> very helpful in creating my competency forms.  We just had an on-site CAP 
> inspection and it seemed to satisfy them.   Hope this link is helpful.   The 
> article's author is Teresa Scott. 
>  
> http://laboratory-manager.advanceweb.com/Web-Extras/Online-Extras/Competency-Assessment.aspx
> 
> Valerie Biendara SCT(ASCP)IAC
> Cytology Supervisor
> NWA Pathology Associates
> 
> 
>  "Demarinis wrote: 
> 
> =
> I would be interested in reviewing the competency form.  Could you email it 
> to me as well?  Thanks.
> Carolyn - cdemari...@saratogacare.org
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber McKenzie
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:18 PM
> To: Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to what 
> someone else is doing. 
> Thanks,
> Amber
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Ronald
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> To: Histonet
> Subject: [Histonet] competency form
> 
> Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy CAP?
> 
> I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences 
> between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read our 
> test results
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
> Anatomic Pathology Manager
> ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com
> 
> 700 Children's Drive
> Columbus, OH 43205
> (P) 614-722-5450
> (F) 614-722-2899
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org<mailto:ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org>
> www.NationwideChildrens.org<http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/>
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Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[cytch7]

I was having the same problems with developing competency records for my 
cytotechnologist.  I found this article from ADVACE for Adminstrators to be 
very helpful in creating my competency forms.  We just had an on-site CAP 
inspection and it seemed to satisfy them.   Hope this link is helpful.   The 
article's author is Teresa Scott. 
 
http://laboratory-manager.advanceweb.com/Web-Extras/Online-Extras/Competency-Assessment.aspx

Valerie Biendara SCT(ASCP)IAC
Cytology Supervisor
NWA Pathology Associates


 "Demarinis wrote: 

=
I would be interested in reviewing the competency form.  Could you email it to 
me as well?  Thanks.
Carolyn - cdemari...@saratogacare.org


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber McKenzie
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:18 PM
To: Houston, Ronald; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form

Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to what 
someone else is doing. 
Thanks,
Amber

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston, Ronald
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] competency form

Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy CAP?

I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences 
between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read our 
test results

Thanks

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
Anatomic Pathology Manager
ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com

700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205
(P) 614-722-5450
(F) 614-722-2899
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
www.NationwideChildrens.org

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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form- Inspector Perspective.

[Sheila Haas]

Well said Ian and I couldn't agree more. I certainly understand the need for 
consistency and regulations. We are appealing a couple of our deficiencies 
because we have the documentation although it was not documented the way the 
inspectors wanted to see it (as part of a particular form); instead we have a 
couple of forms which captures the information in a number of ways. We'll see 
what CAP says...stay tuned.
 
Thanks to everyone for their input and information. It is greatly appreciated.
 
Sheila Haas
MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
 

 
> From: ibern...@uab.edu
> To: trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com; sm...@msn.com; 
> joellewea...@hotmail.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form- Inspector Perspective.
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 01:57:10 +
> 
> I recently had the great honor to serve as a CAP inspector in Arizona. The 
> lab we inspected will be accredited.   
> 
> Lest we forget as inspectors or future inspectors, I hope the below 
> perspective illuminates the purpose of the CAP inspection and helps preserve 
> the integrity of the program if adhered to.
> 
> As inspectors, we are trained to be thorough but to  simultaneously use 
> "objective judgment" i.e. " there may be several ways to meet the intent of 
> the question" and that "we must review all pertinent documentation and then 
> determine if the process meets the intent of the requirement".
> 
> Keeping in mind that the purpose of CAP inspection is not punitive but 
> "quality laboratory improvement to fulfill the regulatory purpose of the 
> inspection (CLIA)". Our focus should be, in the interest of time and  
> thoroughness "major compliance issue rather than nitpick". This helps us 
> maintain "professionalism and  preserve the peer-review nature of the 
> program".
> 
> So what is it that constitutes compliance? 
> Per CAP:
> "- One, that the laboratory has defined a policy, a procedure, or a plan "of 
> the three P's" for how they are going to do things in the lab. 
>   - Secondly, actual practices that matches those three P's. 
>   - Finally, documentation to support the fact that practice has indeed 
> matched policies and procedures."
> 
> So what is a deficiency? 
> 
> Per CAP:
> "A deficiency means that the lab did not meet the intent of the checklist 
> item.  It's not the wording; it's not the specifics. It is the intent".  If 
> any of the three above criteria are not yet met, we should cite a deficiency" 
> We are admonished to remember that "there may be many ways to accomplish an 
> objective. The lab may not do things exactly the way that your lab does, but 
> may still be meeting the intent of the requirement(s). Citing a laboratory 
> for "not doing it the way we do it" is a common inspector error."
> 
> Per CAP, partial compliance is the following:  "If there is partial 
> compliance (e.g., some records are inconsistent, one bottle of reagent was 
> not labeled completely, a few temperatures were not recorded, etc.), you must 
> judge whether the degree of non-compliance is likely to have adverse effects 
> on test accuracy, patient care, or worker safety. Also, determine if the lab 
> staff was aware of the inconsistency and if corrective actions were 
> performed. If adverse effects are likely or if there are definite patterns 
> (e.g., missing temperatures only on weekends) without corrective actions" 
> only then we must cite a deficiency.
> 
> Bottom-line, If you feel you were incorrectly cited since you met the intent 
> of the question, you should  appeal to  CAP. It is an inspected lab's right.  
> If a phase 11  deficiency, submit your evidence of compliance and the Lab  
> Accreditation Committee will either overrule or sustain.  I suspect they will 
> overrule.
> 
> Just saying, but based upon just what you described, it sounds like you all 
> met the intent of the question.
> 
> MSgt Ian R Bernard, HT(ASCP), MSHA-UAB
> Anatomic Pathology Lab Manager
> USAF- Active Duty
> ibern...@uab.edu
> ian.bern...@comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rathborne, 
> Toni
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:04 AM
> To: 'Sheila Haas'; joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> CAP inspectors may have opinions which differ from our own, and their 
> interpretation of standards may al

RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form- Inspector Perspective.

[Ian R Bernard]

I recently had the great honor to serve as a CAP inspector in Arizona. The lab 
we inspected will be accredited.   

Lest we forget as inspectors or future inspectors, I hope the below perspective 
illuminates the purpose of the CAP inspection and helps preserve the integrity 
of the program if adhered to.

As inspectors, we are trained to be thorough but to  simultaneously use 
"objective judgment" i.e. " there may be several ways to meet the intent of the 
question" and that "we must review all pertinent documentation and then 
determine if the process meets the intent of the requirement".

Keeping in mind that the purpose of CAP inspection is not punitive but "quality 
laboratory improvement to fulfill the regulatory purpose of the inspection 
(CLIA)". Our focus should be, in the interest of time and  thoroughness "major 
compliance issue rather than nitpick". This helps us maintain "professionalism 
and  preserve the peer-review nature of the program".

So what is it that constitutes compliance? 
Per CAP:
"- One, that the laboratory has defined a policy, a procedure, or a plan "of 
the three P's" for how they are going to do things in the lab. 
  - Secondly, actual practices that matches those three P's. 
  - Finally, documentation to support the fact that practice has indeed matched 
policies and procedures."

So what is a deficiency? 

Per CAP:
"A deficiency means that the lab did not meet the intent of the checklist item. 
 It's not the wording; it's not the specifics. It is the intent".  If any of 
the three above criteria are not yet met, we should cite a deficiency" We are 
admonished to remember that "there may be many ways to accomplish an objective. 
The lab may not do things exactly the way that your lab does, but may still be 
meeting the intent of the requirement(s). Citing a laboratory for "not doing it 
the way we do it" is a common inspector error."

Per CAP, partial compliance is the following:  "If there is partial compliance 
(e.g., some records are inconsistent, one bottle of reagent was not labeled 
completely, a few temperatures were not recorded, etc.), you must judge whether 
the degree of non-compliance is likely to have adverse effects on test 
accuracy, patient care, or worker safety. Also, determine if the lab staff was 
aware of the inconsistency and if corrective actions were performed. If adverse 
effects are likely or if there are definite patterns (e.g., missing 
temperatures only on weekends) without corrective actions" only then we must 
cite a deficiency.

Bottom-line, If you feel you were incorrectly cited since you met the intent of 
the question, you should  appeal to  CAP. It is an inspected lab's right.  If a 
phase 11  deficiency, submit your evidence of compliance and the Lab  
Accreditation Committee will either overrule or sustain.  I suspect they will 
overrule.

Just saying, but based upon just what you described, it sounds like you all met 
the intent of the question.

MSgt Ian R Bernard, HT(ASCP), MSHA-UAB
Anatomic Pathology Lab Manager
USAF- Active Duty
ibern...@uab.edu
ian.bern...@comcast.net







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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rathborne, Toni
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:04 AM
To: 'Sheila Haas'; joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

CAP inspectors may have opinions which differ from our own, and their 
interpretation of standards may also be different. Have you challenged this 
deficiency with CAP? 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila Haas
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:52 AM
To: joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

What we had here, which did not meet the CAP inspectors requirements 
apparently, were the procedure (of course); a form with each observation of 
each task documented along with any corrective action necessary; the 
correlation of proficiency tests, educational assessments  and performance 
reviews for technical staff; daily evaluations from the pathologists concerning 
staining, microtomy and grossing; and educational training documentation. We 
had no idea with all pieces of this documentation that we were anticipated to 
have more. The form for DO of each task was not detailed enough (despite 
listing each task and proficiency or corrective action of each task) according 
to the inspectors. I was hoping someone could share a form so as to assist us 
in seeing what holes there are in our form. While this DO form is definitely 
not our only form, the inspectors specifically commented on this one.
 
If anyone can assist, it woul

RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Ian R Bernard]

There is a great need for standardization in histotechnology, from forms, 
policies, procedures/methods to controls processes and protocols.  Hope NSH is 
working with ASCP and CAP to make this happen.


MSgt Ian R Bernard, HT(ASCP), MSHA-UAB
Anatomic Pathology Lab Manager
USAF- Active Duty
210-687-7540 Cell
ibern...@uab.edu
ian.bern...@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:09 AM
To: Rathborne, Toni; 'Sheila Haas'; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

True there is inspector variation. Maybe we should all pool our resources and 
see what we can come up with collaboratively? It is great to know what the CAP 
feedback has been so we can all fill in any gaps.  




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com
> To: sm...@msn.com; joellewea...@hotmail.com; 
> amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:04:17 +
> 
> CAP inspectors may have opinions which differ from our own, and their 
> interpretation of standards may also be different. Have you challenged this 
> deficiency with CAP? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila 
> Haas
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:52 AM
> To: joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> What we had here, which did not meet the CAP inspectors requirements 
> apparently, were the procedure (of course); a form with each observation of 
> each task documented along with any corrective action necessary; the 
> correlation of proficiency tests, educational assessments  and performance 
> reviews for technical staff; daily evaluations from the pathologists 
> concerning staining, microtomy and grossing; and educational training 
> documentation. We had no idea with all pieces of this documentation that we 
> were anticipated to have more. The form for DO of each task was not detailed 
> enough (despite listing each task and proficiency or corrective action of 
> each task) according to the inspectors. I was hoping someone could share a 
> form so as to assist us in seeing what holes there are in our form. While 
> this DO form is definitely not our only form, the inspectors specifically 
> commented on this one.
>  
> If anyone can assist, it would be helpful.
> Thank you,
> Sheila Haas
> MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
> Quality Assurance Coordinator
> 
>  
> From: joellewea...@hotmail.com
> To: sm...@msn.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:26:47 +
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Is the question that Ronnie posed yesterday requesting justification of the 
> need and extent of competency documentation for histology, or is it just a 
> form needed? The general checklist pretty much sums up the necessity for 
> doing, and required elements to me- GEN. 55500 and CLIA. Maybe I am not 
> understanding?
> As for a form, I would expect that the specific items on any forms will vary 
> by your personnel and by the testing and processes you perform. 
> What I did to document initial training and competency was a make a summary 
> checklist for each "bench" with tasks and direct observations "DO" for 
> initial training  & documentation of satisfactory performance before patient 
> testing.
> I just put all those checklists together in a summary table for each 
> person. High complexity; such as grossing, IHC, FISH scoring get more 
> attention and documentation, the waived tests, you have more 
> discretion,- but I thought it easier to do everything about the same. 
> I have not been inspected on this document yet ( so can't say if CAP 
> will have issues with it- but will know soon...) but here is basically 
> what I did to meet GEN.55500 or the main parts;
>  
>  
> Defined how competency is monitored- method and frequency ( just 
> included as part of the competency SOP) Orientation and initial 
> training documentation in a checklist for general lab, safety Training 
> checklist on each technical bench, instrument, major procedure PT 
> records and performance/results
> DO- a practical assessment ( block, slides, stains),  for the 
> assessment of previously analyzed specimens, and a PI feedback 
> checklist for the 

RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[joelle weaver]

I appreciate your thoughts. True, seems like they couldn't be too specific in 
their requirements if they cannot list specifically what they require ( when 
you specifically ask), what a sentence! We will all find out if that is the 
case or not soon enough. 
Anyhow, I just want to agree with you that all the signs seem to be that there 
will be tightening, based on their magazine articles and web site postings, 
etc; 
seems like validation & verification, competency, PT & ( interlaboratory 
correlation) will be at the top of the list...stay tuned. 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 20:37:55 +
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amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form


So I went to one of the CAP webinars regarding competency  And when I asked 
what about

histology there were complete silence on the other end of the line and than 
they said there was

nothing for histology.  

 

At our site they want something for very division so I put together a basic 
form and use it 

for the multitude of major tasks in histology.  We are not getting inspeted 
until next year but

from what I hear CAP is planning on making major changes for the pathology 
protion of

CAP's checklist, what that means I do not know.  

 

Since CAP canot give us concrete rules for histology I think that anything a 
lab does is

better than nothing, and shows initiative on their part to meet CAP's 
requirements.

Since this is a peer review the inspector can suggest alternatives but

cannot say you are in violation because the do not "like" your form.

 

Just my thoughts

 

S. Paturzo

TJUH





  
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Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sheila Haas]

Well, it would be nice if that was the case but we ended up with a deficiency. 
It was rather disappointing given our overall documentation. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:37 PM, "Sue"  wrote:
> 
> So I went to one of the CAP webinars regarding competency  And when I asked 
> what about
> 
> histology there were complete silence on the other end of the line and than 
> they said there was
> 
> nothing for histology. 
> 
>  
> 
> At our site they want something for very division so I put together a basic 
> form and use it
> 
> for the multitude of major tasks in histology.  We are not getting inspeted 
> until next year but
> 
> from what I hear CAP is planning on making major changes for the pathology 
> protion of
> 
> CAP's checklist, what that means I do not know. 
> 
>  
> 
> Since CAP canot give us concrete rules for histology I think that anything a 
> lab does is
> 
> better than nothing, and shows initiative on their part to meet CAP's 
> requirements.
> 
> Since this is a peer review the inspector can suggest alternatives but
> 
> cannot say you are in violation because the do not "like" your form.
> 
>  
> 
> Just my thoughts
> 
>  
> 
> S. Paturzo
> 
> TJUH
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sue]

So I went to one of the CAP webinars regarding competency  And when I asked 
what about 

histology there were complete silence on the other end of the line and than 
they said there was 

nothing for histology.  



At our site they want something for very division so I put together a basic 
form and use it 

for the multitude of major tasks in histology.  We are not getting inspeted 
until next year but 

from what I hear CAP is planning on making major changes for the pathology 
protion of 

CAP's checklist, what that means I do not know.  



Since CAP canot give us concrete rules for histology I think that anything a 
lab does is 

better than nothing, and shows initiative on their part to meet CAP's 
requirements. 

Since this is a peer review the inspector can suggest alternatives but 

cannot say you are in violation because the do not "like" your form. 



Just my thoughts 



S. Paturzo 

TJUH 




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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Rathborne, Toni]

CAP inspectors may have opinions which differ from our own, and their 
interpretation of standards may also be different. Have you challenged this 
deficiency with CAP? 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila Haas
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:52 AM
To: joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

What we had here, which did not meet the CAP inspectors requirements 
apparently, were the procedure (of course); a form with each observation of 
each task documented along with any corrective action necessary; the 
correlation of proficiency tests, educational assessments  and performance 
reviews for technical staff; daily evaluations from the pathologists concerning 
staining, microtomy and grossing; and educational training documentation. We 
had no idea with all pieces of this documentation that we were anticipated to 
have more. The form for DO of each task was not detailed enough (despite 
listing each task and proficiency or corrective action of each task) according 
to the inspectors. I was hoping someone could share a form so as to assist us 
in seeing what holes there are in our form. While this DO form is definitely 
not our only form, the inspectors specifically commented on this one.
 
If anyone can assist, it would be helpful.
Thank you,
Sheila Haas
MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
Quality Assurance Coordinator

 
From: joellewea...@hotmail.com
To: sm...@msn.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:26:47 +




 
Is the question that Ronnie posed yesterday requesting justification of the 
need and extent of competency documentation for histology, or is it just a form 
needed? The general checklist pretty much sums up the necessity for doing, and 
required elements to me- GEN. 55500 and CLIA. Maybe I am not understanding?
As for a form, I would expect that the specific items on any forms will vary by 
your personnel and by the testing and processes you perform. 
What I did to document initial training and competency was a make a summary 
checklist for each "bench" with tasks and direct observations "DO" for initial 
training  & documentation of satisfactory performance before patient testing.
I just put all those checklists together in a summary table for each person. 
High complexity; such as grossing, IHC, FISH scoring get more attention and 
documentation, the waived tests, you have more discretion,- but I thought it 
easier to do everything about the same. I have not been inspected on this 
document yet ( so can't say if CAP will have issues with it- but will know 
soon...) but here is basically what I did to meet GEN.55500 or the main parts; 
 
 
Defined how competency is monitored- method and frequency ( just included as 
part of the competency SOP) Orientation and initial training documentation in a 
checklist for general lab, safety Training checklist on each technical bench, 
instrument, major procedure PT records and performance/results
DO- a practical assessment ( block, slides, stains),  for the assessment of 
previously analyzed specimens, and a PI feedback checklist for the technical 
from this audit of issues- how/what to improve Check off in performing QC, 
calibration, patient ID procedures ( acceptable error rates), examples for file 
DO of grossing, other performance such as instrument programming/maintenance 
Written quiz, policies & procedures, troubleshooting( problem solving 
documentation) Continuing education participation records





Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: sm...@msn.com
> To: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:10:18 +0000
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> CC: 
> 
> We were recently dinged by CAP for our competency assessments in all areas. 
> While that's no longer my immediate responsibility, I would love to be able 
> to assist the lab manager with some information so we can tweek our 
> assessments if you all wouldn't mind sharing with me as well.
> Thanks a bunch.
> Sheila Haas
> MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
> Quality Assurance Coordinator
>  
> > From: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net
> > To: ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> > histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 21:17:44 +
> > CC: 
> > Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> > 
> > Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to 
> > what someone else is doing. 
> > Thanks,
> > Amber
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hi

RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[joelle weaver]

True there is inspector variation. Maybe we should all pool our resources and 
see what we can come up with collaboratively? It is great to know what the CAP 
feedback has been so we can all fill in any gaps.  




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com
> To: sm...@msn.com; joellewea...@hotmail.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:04:17 +
> 
> CAP inspectors may have opinions which differ from our own, and their 
> interpretation of standards may also be different. Have you challenged this 
> deficiency with CAP? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila Haas
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:52 AM
> To: joelle weaver; Amber McKenzie; Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> What we had here, which did not meet the CAP inspectors requirements 
> apparently, were the procedure (of course); a form with each observation of 
> each task documented along with any corrective action necessary; the 
> correlation of proficiency tests, educational assessments  and performance 
> reviews for technical staff; daily evaluations from the pathologists 
> concerning staining, microtomy and grossing; and educational training 
> documentation. We had no idea with all pieces of this documentation that we 
> were anticipated to have more. The form for DO of each task was not detailed 
> enough (despite listing each task and proficiency or corrective action of 
> each task) according to the inspectors. I was hoping someone could share a 
> form so as to assist us in seeing what holes there are in our form. While 
> this DO form is definitely not our only form, the inspectors specifically 
> commented on this one.
>  
> If anyone can assist, it would be helpful.
> Thank you,
> Sheila Haas
> MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
> Quality Assurance Coordinator
> 
>  
> From: joellewea...@hotmail.com
> To: sm...@msn.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:26:47 +
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Is the question that Ronnie posed yesterday requesting justification of the 
> need and extent of competency documentation for histology, or is it just a 
> form needed? The general checklist pretty much sums up the necessity for 
> doing, and required elements to me- GEN. 55500 and CLIA. Maybe I am not 
> understanding?
> As for a form, I would expect that the specific items on any forms will vary 
> by your personnel and by the testing and processes you perform. 
> What I did to document initial training and competency was a make a summary 
> checklist for each "bench" with tasks and direct observations "DO" for 
> initial training  & documentation of satisfactory performance before patient 
> testing.
> I just put all those checklists together in a summary table for each person. 
> High complexity; such as grossing, IHC, FISH scoring get more attention and 
> documentation, the waived tests, you have more discretion,- but I thought it 
> easier to do everything about the same. I have not been inspected on this 
> document yet ( so can't say if CAP will have issues with it- but will know 
> soon...) but here is basically what I did to meet GEN.55500 or the main 
> parts; 
>  
>  
> Defined how competency is monitored- method and frequency ( just included as 
> part of the competency SOP) Orientation and initial training documentation in 
> a checklist for general lab, safety Training checklist on each technical 
> bench, instrument, major procedure PT records and performance/results
> DO- a practical assessment ( block, slides, stains),  for the assessment of 
> previously analyzed specimens, and a PI feedback checklist for the technical 
> from this audit of issues- how/what to improve Check off in performing QC, 
> calibration, patient ID procedures ( acceptable error rates), examples for 
> file DO of grossing, other performance such as instrument 
> programming/maintenance Written quiz, policies & procedures, troubleshooting( 
> problem solving documentation) Continuing education participation records
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>  
> > From: sm...@msn.com
> > To: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
> > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> > histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:10:18 +
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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sheila Haas]

What we had here, which did not meet the CAP inspectors requirements 
apparently, were the procedure (of course); a form with each observation of 
each task documented along with any corrective action necessary; the 
correlation of proficiency tests, educational assessments  and performance 
reviews for technical staff; daily evaluations from the pathologists concerning 
staining, microtomy and grossing; and educational training documentation. We 
had no idea with all pieces of this documentation that we were anticipated to 
have more. The form for DO of each task was not detailed enough (despite 
listing each task and proficiency or corrective action of each task) according 
to the inspectors. I was hoping someone could share a form so as to assist us 
in seeing what holes there are in our form. While this DO form is definitely 
not our only form, the inspectors specifically commented on this one.
 
If anyone can assist, it would be helpful.
Thank you,
Sheila Haas
MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
Quality Assurance Coordinator

 
From: joellewea...@hotmail.com
To: sm...@msn.com; amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; 
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:26:47 +




 
Is the question that Ronnie posed yesterday requesting justification of the 
need and extent of competency documentation for histology, or is it just a form 
needed? The general checklist pretty much sums up the necessity for doing, and 
required elements to me- GEN. 55500 and CLIA. Maybe I am not understanding?
As for a form, I would expect that the specific items on any forms will vary by 
your personnel and by the testing and processes you perform. 
What I did to document initial training and competency was a make a summary 
checklist for each "bench" with tasks and direct observations "DO" for initial 
training  & documentation of satisfactory performance before patient testing.
I just put all those checklists together in a summary table for each person. 
High complexity; such as grossing, IHC, FISH scoring get more attention and 
documentation, the waived tests, you have more discretion,- but I thought it 
easier to do everything about the same. I have not been inspected on this 
document yet ( so can't say if CAP will have issues with it- but will know 
soon...) but here is basically what I did to meet GEN.55500 or the main parts; 
 
 
Defined how competency is monitored- method and frequency ( just included as 
part of the competency SOP) 
Orientation and initial training documentation in a checklist for general lab, 
safety 
Training checklist on each technical bench, instrument, major procedure
PT records and performance/results
DO- a practical assessment ( block, slides, stains),  for the assessment of 
previously analyzed specimens, and a PI feedback checklist for the technical 
from this audit of issues- how/what to improve 
Check off in performing QC, calibration, patient ID procedures ( acceptable 
error rates), examples for file
DO of grossing, other performance such as instrument programming/maintenance
Written quiz, policies & procedures, troubleshooting( problem solving 
documentation) 
Continuing education participation records





Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: sm...@msn.com
> To: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:10:18 +0000
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> CC: 
> 
> We were recently dinged by CAP for our competency assessments in all areas. 
> While that's no longer my immediate responsibility, I would love to be able 
> to assist the lab manager with some information so we can tweek our 
> assessments if you all wouldn't mind sharing with me as well.
> Thanks a bunch.
> Sheila Haas
> MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
> Quality Assurance Coordinator 
>  
> > From: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net
> > To: ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> > histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 21:17:44 +
> > CC: 
> > Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> > 
> > Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to 
> > what someone else is doing. 
> > Thanks,
> > Amber
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston, 
> > Ronald
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> > To: Histonet
> > Subject: [Histonet] competency form
> > 
> > Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy 
> > CAP?
> > 
> > I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences 

RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[joelle weaver]

The NSH does have some good basic forms that may help in getting your 
organization's forms together. I would probably evolve them from those into 
what fits in with your situation. 
 
There have been a couple of webinars in the past dealing with competency in 
histology and meeting requirements under CLIA and CAP. I think that it is a 
recurring topic that comes up since competency crosses over into many other 
arenas such as personnel & staffing, education & training, compliance, test 
performance( reliability/reproducibility), errors and process improvements, and 
potentially other areas that supervisors and managers juggle every day. 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: sm...@msn.com
> To: foreig...@gmail.com; sad...@wisc.edu
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:24:36 +
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
> 
> Thanks for the reference Patrick!
>  
>  
> > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:22:34 -0400
> > From: foreig...@gmail.com
> > To: sad...@wisc.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> > CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; 
> > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
> > 
> > We based ours off the Michigan Society of Histotechnologist's Competency
> > Assessment Handbook (available on their website for a nominal fee).  We
> > took some of their forms/ideas and modified them for our use.
> > 
> > Patrick Laurie(HT)ASCP QIHC
> > 
> > Histology Manager
> > 
> > Celligent Diagnostics, LLC
> > 
> > 101 East W.T. Harris Blvd  | Suite 1212 | Charlotte, NC 28262
> > 
> > Work: 704-970-3300  Cell: 704-266-0869
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sally Ann Drew  wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't know if it's reasonable to share with all of us, but I bet there
> > > are
> > > a lot of us that would be interested in how others are approaching these
> > > topics.  I doubt there are that many workshops on the issue-or have there
> > > been teleconferences maybe that cover the subject?
> > >
> > > _Sally
> > >
> > > Sally Ann Drew,MT(ASCP)
> > > UW SMPH-Dept. of Pathology
> > > TRIP/TSB-TRIP Lab Manager
> > > CSC, K4/435
> > > 608.265.4378
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber
> > > McKenzie
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:18 PM
> > > To: Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> > > Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> > >
> > > Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to
> > > what
> > > someone else is doing.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Amber
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston,
> > > Ronald
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> > > To: Histonet
> > > Subject: [Histonet] competency form
> > >
> > > Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy
> > > CAP?
> > >
> > > I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences
> > > between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read
> > > our
> > > test results
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
> > > Anatomic Pathology Manager
> > > ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com
> > >
> > > 700 Children's Drive
> > > Columbus, OH 43205
> > > (P) 614-722-5450
> > > (F) 614-722-2899
> > > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org > > ronald.houston@nationwidechild
> > > rens.org>
> > > www.NationwideChildrens.org<http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/>
> > >
> > > "One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."
> > > ~ E.M. Forster
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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[joelle weaver]

 
Is the question that Ronnie posed yesterday requesting justification of the 
need and extent of competency documentation for histology, or is it just a form 
needed? The general checklist pretty much sums up the necessity for doing, and 
required elements to me- GEN. 55500 and CLIA. Maybe I am not understanding?
As for a form, I would expect that the specific items on any forms will vary by 
your personnel and by the testing and processes you perform. 
What I did to document initial training and competency was a make a summary 
checklist for each "bench" with tasks and direct observations "DO" for initial 
training  & documentation of satisfactory performance before patient testing.
I just put all those checklists together in a summary table for each person. 
High complexity; such as grossing, IHC, FISH scoring get more attention and 
documentation, the waived tests, you have more discretion,- but I thought it 
easier to do everything about the same. I have not been inspected on this 
document yet ( so can't say if CAP will have issues with it- but will know 
soon...) but here is basically what I did to meet GEN.55500 or the main parts; 
 
 
Defined how competency is monitored- method and frequency ( just included as 
part of the competency SOP) 
Orientation and initial training documentation in a checklist for general lab, 
safety 
Training checklist on each technical bench, instrument, major procedure
PT records and performance/results
DO- a practical assessment ( block, slides, stains),  for the assessment of 
previously analyzed specimens, and a PI feedback checklist for the technical 
from this audit of issues- how/what to improve 
Check off in performing QC, calibration, patient ID procedures ( acceptable 
error rates), examples for file
DO of grossing, other performance such as instrument programming/maintenance
Written quiz, policies & procedures, troubleshooting( problem solving 
documentation) 
Continuing education participation records





Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: sm...@msn.com
> To: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net; ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:10:18 +0000
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> CC: 
> 
> We were recently dinged by CAP for our competency assessments in all areas. 
> While that's no longer my immediate responsibility, I would love to be able 
> to assist the lab manager with some information so we can tweek our 
> assessments if you all wouldn't mind sharing with me as well.
> Thanks a bunch.
> Sheila Haas
> MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
> Quality Assurance Coordinator 
>  
> > From: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net
> > To: ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; 
> > histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 21:17:44 +
> > CC: 
> > Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> > 
> > Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to 
> > what someone else is doing. 
> > Thanks,
> > Amber
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston, 
> > Ronald
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> > To: Histonet
> > Subject: [Histonet] competency form
> > 
> > Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy 
> > CAP?
> > 
> > I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences 
> > between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read 
> > our test results
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
> > Anatomic Pathology Manager
> > ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com
> > 
> > 700 Children's Drive
> > Columbus, OH 43205
> > (P) 614-722-5450
> > (F) 614-722-2899
> > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org<mailto:ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org>
> > www.NationwideChildrens.org<http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/>
> > 
> > "One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."
> > ~ E.M. Forster
> > 
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Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Patrick Laurie]

We based ours off the Michigan Society of Histotechnologist's Competency
Assessment Handbook (available on their website for a nominal fee).  We
took some of their forms/ideas and modified them for our use.

Patrick Laurie(HT)ASCP QIHC

Histology Manager

Celligent Diagnostics, LLC

101 East W.T. Harris Blvd  | Suite 1212 | Charlotte, NC 28262

Work: 704-970-3300  Cell: 704-266-0869


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sally Ann Drew  wrote:

> I don't know if it's reasonable to share with all of us, but I bet there
> are
> a lot of us that would be interested in how others are approaching these
> topics.  I doubt there are that many workshops on the issue-or have there
> been teleconferences maybe that cover the subject?
>
> _Sally
>
> Sally Ann Drew,MT(ASCP)
> UW SMPH-Dept. of Pathology
> TRIP/TSB-TRIP Lab Manager
> CSC, K4/435
> 608.265.4378
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber
> McKenzie
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:18 PM
> To: Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
>
> Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to
> what
> someone else is doing.
> Thanks,
> Amber
>
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston,
> Ronald
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> To: Histonet
> Subject: [Histonet] competency form
>
> Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy
> CAP?
>
> I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences
> between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read
> our
> test results
>
> Thanks
>
> Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
> Anatomic Pathology Manager
> ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com
>
> 700 Children's Drive
> Columbus, OH 43205
> (P) 614-722-5450
> (F) 614-722-2899
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org ronald.houston@nationwidechild
> rens.org>
> www.NationwideChildrens.org
>
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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sheila Haas]

Thanks for the reference Patrick!
 
 
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:22:34 -0400
> From: foreig...@gmail.com
> To: sad...@wisc.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
> 
> We based ours off the Michigan Society of Histotechnologist's Competency
> Assessment Handbook (available on their website for a nominal fee).  We
> took some of their forms/ideas and modified them for our use.
> 
> Patrick Laurie(HT)ASCP QIHC
> 
> Histology Manager
> 
> Celligent Diagnostics, LLC
> 
> 101 East W.T. Harris Blvd  | Suite 1212 | Charlotte, NC 28262
> 
> Work: 704-970-3300  Cell: 704-266-0869
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sally Ann Drew  wrote:
> 
> > I don't know if it's reasonable to share with all of us, but I bet there
> > are
> > a lot of us that would be interested in how others are approaching these
> > topics.  I doubt there are that many workshops on the issue-or have there
> > been teleconferences maybe that cover the subject?
> >
> > _Sally
> >
> > Sally Ann Drew,MT(ASCP)
> > UW SMPH-Dept. of Pathology
> > TRIP/TSB-TRIP Lab Manager
> > CSC, K4/435
> > 608.265.4378
> > -Original Message-
> > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber
> > McKenzie
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:18 PM
> > To: Houston, Ronald; Histonet
> > Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> >
> > Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to
> > what
> > someone else is doing.
> > Thanks,
> > Amber
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston,
> > Ronald
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> > To: Histonet
> > Subject: [Histonet] competency form
> >
> > Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy
> > CAP?
> >
> > I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences
> > between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read
> > our
> > test results
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
> > Anatomic Pathology Manager
> > ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com
> >
> > 700 Children's Drive
> > Columbus, OH 43205
> > (P) 614-722-5450
> > (F) 614-722-2899
> > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org > ronald.houston@nationwidechild
> > rens.org>
> > www.NationwideChildrens.org<http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/>
> >
> > "One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."
> > ~ E.M. Forster
> >
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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sally Ann Drew]

I don't know if it's reasonable to share with all of us, but I bet there are
a lot of us that would be interested in how others are approaching these
topics.  I doubt there are that many workshops on the issue-or have there
been teleconferences maybe that cover the subject?

_Sally

Sally Ann Drew,MT(ASCP)
UW SMPH-Dept. of Pathology 
TRIP/TSB-TRIP Lab Manager 
CSC, K4/435
608.265.4378
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber
McKenzie
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:18 PM
To: Houston, Ronald; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form

Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to what
someone else is doing. 
Thanks,
Amber

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston,
Ronald
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] competency form

Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy
CAP?

I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences
between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read our
test results

Thanks

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
Anatomic Pathology Manager
ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com

700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205
(P) 614-722-5450
(F) 614-722-2899
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
www.NationwideChildrens.org

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~ E.M. Forster

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RE: [Histonet] RE: competency form

[Sheila Haas]

We were recently dinged by CAP for our competency assessments in all areas. 
While that's no longer my immediate responsibility, I would love to be able to 
assist the lab manager with some information so we can tweek our assessments if 
you all wouldn't mind sharing with me as well.
Thanks a bunch.
Sheila Haas
MicroPath Laboratories, Inc.
Quality Assurance Coordinator 
 
> From: amber.mcken...@gastrodocs.net
> To: ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 21:17:44 +
> CC: 
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: competency form
> 
> Can you pass it on to me as well?  I'd love to compare what I've got to what 
> someone else is doing. 
> Thanks,
> Amber
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Houston, 
> Ronald
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:37 PM
> To: Histonet
> Subject: [Histonet] competency form
> 
> Can someone please share the competency form(s) they are using to satisfy CAP?
> 
> I am having problems convincing our QA/Compliance folks of the differences 
> between testing in AP compared to the other lab disciplines, who do read our 
> test results
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
> Anatomic Pathology Manager
> ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com
> 
> 700 Children's Drive
> Columbus, OH 43205
> (P) 614-722-5450
> (F) 614-722-2899
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
> www.NationwideChildrens.org
> 
> "One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."
> ~ E.M. Forster
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