Re: Vmutil

2007-07-25 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 03:24:04PM -0500,Troy A Slaughter Wrote:

} I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any doc out there on how to 
} configure service machine VMUTIL.

The sample WAKEUP TIMES file has good examples.

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread James Vincent

What a total load of BS!  Not the drawing and quartering part, the so-called
article content.  Ignorance is bliss they say!  Didn't they try this "get
off the mainframe" thing about 20 years ago and failed at it?

"Shiveley: The mainframe is a legacy architecture. It's been around a long
time, and it does some things well. But it has been held hostage by the
limited support and limited innovation that takes place in the mainframe
environment."

BWAH HA HAW!!  Did this guy just wake up or what? Even with the Internet he
could have done better research to get his "facts" straight!  If we have
"limited support and limited innovation" I sure would like to see how it
could be better!  Maybe if IBM brought me my coffee... yeah, that would do
it.

So the z9 and the next generation are "limited innovation" huh?  So saving
literally a boat (a very large, plush, ocean type boat) load of money
because we are moving TO the mainframe with Linux on VM, we are so "legacy",
yes?  Kewl!  Call me Mr Legacy then.  And make sure you use the Mister part
because you know how us old legacy SysProgs are!

Sheez!  Not that the article got me P.O.'d or anything...

Jim "Mr Legacy" Vincent

On 7/25/07, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We weren't going to shoot you. Drawing and quartering is much more
appropriate :-)

Regards,
Richard Schuh

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Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:20 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid80_gci1265623,00.
html?track=NL-576&ad=598271&asrc=EM_NLT_1860635&uid=5437138

I'm just the messenger, put down the gun...

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Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
We weren't going to shoot you. Drawing and quartering is much more
appropriate :-)

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:20 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid80_gci1265623,00.
html?track=NL-576&ad=598271&asrc=EM_NLT_1860635&uid=5437138

I'm just the messenger, put down the gun...

...phsiii


Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Smith III
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid80_gci1265623,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=598271&asrc=EM_NLT_1860635&uid=5437138

I'm just the messenger, put down the gun...

...phsiii


Re: Vmutil

2007-07-25 Thread Judson West
I second the emotion.. I have been extremely happy with Kris' VMUTIL
RxServer package. 



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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:28 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Vmutil



Get my RxServer package from VM's download lib.  Included is a very
powerful VMUTIL.
   http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?RXSERVER 

2007/7/25, Troy A Slaughter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any doc out there on how to
configure service machine VMUTIL. 


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IBM Belgium, VM customer support 



Re: Vmutil

2007-07-25 Thread Huegel, Thomas
1) Goto the VM DOWNLOAD page.
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/
 
 
2) Get RXSERVER

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I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any doc out there on how to
configure service machine VMUTIL. 




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Re: Vmutil

2007-07-25 Thread Kris Buelens

Get my RxServer package from VM's download lib.  Included is a very powerful
VMUTIL.
  http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?RXSERVER

2007/7/25, Troy A Slaughter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any doc out there on how to
configure service machine VMUTIL.



--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Vmutil

2007-07-25 Thread Troy A Slaughter
I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any doc out there on how to 
configure service machine VMUTIL.



Fw: Job name in JES3 from RSCS Store-and-Forward

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Barlow
I found my own answer.  Marcy was on the right track.  It could be done on
each individual file as she suggested.
It can also be done by specifying the JOBNAME=USERID parm on the LINKDEFINE
statement or RSCS-wide by adding JOBNAME=USERID to the OPTION statement.


Rick Barlow
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Nationwide Services Co., Web-zLinux Support,
z/VM and System z Linux Support
One Nationwide Plaza  MB-02-201
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- Forwarded by Richard R Barlow/Nationwide/NWIE on 07/25/2007 01:08 PM
-

The IBM z/VM Operating System  wrote on 07/25/2007
12:52:12 PM:

> IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>
> Haven't done it in a long long while, but I'm vaguely remembering TAG
> DEV pun JOBN=xxx
>
>
> Marcy Cortes
>
> "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If
> you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the
> addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on
> this message or any information herein. If you have received this
> message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail
> and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation."
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rick Barlow
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: [IBMVM] Job name in JES3 from RSCS Store-and-Forward
>
> I have RSCS running on z/VM with an SNANJE connection to JES3.  My
> second level VM system does not have a direct NJE link but can also send
> output to
> JES3 using store-and-forward through the first level system.  Here is a
> crude drawing:
>
> VM1  -- SNANJE --  JES3
>  |
> NJE
>  |
> VMT
>
> If I send output from VM1 to JES3, the output shows up in the JES spool
> with a job name that matches the VM user-id on VM1.  However, if I send
> output the same way from VMT to JES3, the job name will show RSCS
> (where  is the spool id from VMT).
>
> Is there some way to change that behavior so that the files arriving at
> JES3 retain the VM user-id of VMT?
> I haven't found anything in RSCS and I don't know if this might be
> something to specify at JES.
>
> Has anyone set up anything like this?  (This is probably specific to
> JES3 since JES2 NJE often works differently.)


Re: Job name in JES3 from RSCS Store-and-Forward

2007-07-25 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Rick--In a previous life in a galaxy far, far away... we used an RSCS 
exit to change the cover sheet for printed output going from VM via 
SNANJE to a JES 2 system.  I don't remember the details, but I think 
that we wanted to get rid of the RSCS as the job name.  We may have 
had to put some exit specific tag information with the file.  If someone 
doesn't have a better, more immediate solution, I'll see if I can find 
someone who still knows about the exit.


Jim

Rick Barlow wrote:

I have RSCS running on z/VM with an SNANJE connection to JES3.  My second
level VM system does not have a direct NJE link but can also send output to
JES3 using store-and-forward through the first level system.  Here is a
crude drawing:

VM1  -- SNANJE --  JES3
 |
NJE
 |
VMT

If I send output from VM1 to JES3, the output shows up in the JES spool
with a job name that matches the VM user-id on VM1.  However, if I send
output the same way from VMT to JES3, the job name will show RSCS
(where  is the spool id from VMT).

Is there some way to change that behavior so that the files arriving at
JES3 retain the VM user-id of VMT?
I haven't found anything in RSCS and I don't know if this might be
something to specify at JES.

Has anyone set up anything like this?  (This is probably specific to JES3
since JES2 NJE often works differently.)


Rick Barlow
Senior z/VM Systems Programmer
Nationwide Services Co., Web-zLinux Support,
z/VM and System z Linux Support
One Nationwide Plaza  MB-02-201
Columbus OH 43215-2220   U.S.A
Voice: (614) 249-5213Fax: (614) 249-3912
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  



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Re: Job name in JES3 from RSCS Store-and-Forward

2007-07-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
Haven't done it in a long long while, but I'm vaguely remembering TAG
DEV pun JOBN=xxx 


Marcy Cortes 

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you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the
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-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Barlow
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] Job name in JES3 from RSCS Store-and-Forward

I have RSCS running on z/VM with an SNANJE connection to JES3.  My
second level VM system does not have a direct NJE link but can also send
output to
JES3 using store-and-forward through the first level system.  Here is a
crude drawing:

VM1  -- SNANJE --  JES3
 |
NJE
 |
VMT

If I send output from VM1 to JES3, the output shows up in the JES spool
with a job name that matches the VM user-id on VM1.  However, if I send
output the same way from VMT to JES3, the job name will show RSCS
(where  is the spool id from VMT).

Is there some way to change that behavior so that the files arriving at
JES3 retain the VM user-id of VMT?
I haven't found anything in RSCS and I don't know if this might be
something to specify at JES.

Has anyone set up anything like this?  (This is probably specific to
JES3 since JES2 NJE often works differently.)


Rick Barlow
Senior z/VM Systems Programmer
Nationwide Services Co., Web-zLinux Support, z/VM and System z Linux
Support One Nationwide Plaza  MB-02-201
Columbus OH 43215-2220   U.S.A
Voice: (614) 249-5213Fax: (614) 249-3912
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Job name in JES3 from RSCS Store-and-Forward

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Barlow
I have RSCS running on z/VM with an SNANJE connection to JES3.  My second
level VM system does not have a direct NJE link but can also send output to
JES3 using store-and-forward through the first level system.  Here is a
crude drawing:

VM1  -- SNANJE --  JES3
 |
NJE
 |
VMT

If I send output from VM1 to JES3, the output shows up in the JES spool
with a job name that matches the VM user-id on VM1.  However, if I send
output the same way from VMT to JES3, the job name will show RSCS
(where  is the spool id from VMT).

Is there some way to change that behavior so that the files arriving at
JES3 retain the VM user-id of VMT?
I haven't found anything in RSCS and I don't know if this might be
something to specify at JES.

Has anyone set up anything like this?  (This is probably specific to JES3
since JES2 NJE often works differently.)


Rick Barlow
Senior z/VM Systems Programmer
Nationwide Services Co., Web-zLinux Support,
z/VM and System z Linux Support
One Nationwide Plaza  MB-02-201
Columbus OH 43215-2220   U.S.A
Voice: (614) 249-5213Fax: (614) 249-3912
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: SSLSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Suleiman Shahin

I wish to second Tom, and  publicly thank their David for his great help.


Suleiman Shahin







From: "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SSLSERV
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:22:59 -0500

I just wanted to publically thank Sine Nomine Associates for providing a
free download LINUX/SSL SERVER. After messing with IBM - SUSE for a week
with no positive results I downloaded the SNA code and was up and running 
in

about 4 hrs. (including lunch).

Again thanks for helping us nonLINUX sysprogs.

Tom


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SSLSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I just wanted to publically thank Sine Nomine Associates for providing a
free download LINUX/SSL SERVER. After messing with IBM - SUSE for a week
with no positive results I downloaded the SNA code and was up and running in
about 4 hrs. (including lunch).

Again thanks for helping us nonLINUX sysprogs.

Tom


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Re: HELP on z/vm 5.3 install!

2007-07-25 Thread Ray Mansell
For an FTP server (and I assume you are talking about a Windows PC - I 
know, big assumption), you can't go wrong with FileZilla.


Ray

Anne Crabtree wrote:

Well, it just so happenend, not sure how, that my VM session went from
"running" to "vm read" and then the ftp server timed out.  I don't know
if I hit enter or what?  Anyway, I just logged off.  Will check the ftp
server software for transmission speed or whatever...  it was freeware I
downloaded...  may hav to try a different one.  No big deal I guess.  I
can always start over.. :)
  


Re: HELP on z/vm 5.3 install!

2007-07-25 Thread Anne Crabtree
Well, it just so happenend, not sure how, that my VM session went from
"running" to "vm read" and then the ftp server timed out.  I don't know
if I hit enter or what?  Anyway, I just logged off.  Will check the ftp
server software for transmission speed or whatever...  it was freeware I
downloaded...  may hav to try a different one.  No big deal I guess.  I
can always start over.. :)

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/07 4:55 PM >>>
On Tuesday, 07/24/2007 at 04:07 EDT, Ray Mansell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hmmm... I can't help, though I suspect a simple HX would do the trick.
> However, you might want to do some investigation, since I also did an
> FTP install last week, and it took less than an hour.
> 
> Or, just leave it running overnight. Is there any reason you can't do 
that?

I think you were right to suggest something is wrong.  No way it should 
take that long.  Oversimplifying, at 10 disks every 3 hours it would
take 
84 hours to download 280 disks.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott