Re: Erep help

2007-10-12 Thread August Carideo
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I receiving the following errors when issuing the cperepxa command.

DMSOPN002E File ERPTFLIB TXTLIB * not found
DMSOPN002E File ERFTRLIB TXTLIB * not found
DMSOPN002E File EREPLIB TXTLIB * not found
,16:55:48  * MSG FROM MAINT   : NOT ALL TXTLIBS FOUND FOR CPEREPXA

I am trying to create the history following the steps in the EREP user
guide for VM

Thanks
Frank Sikich



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Re: z/VM COBOL compiler

2007-10-12 Thread Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Look here:
> http://ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/le/history/cobmvs.html

> According to this table, it is still supported for VM, but was
> long ago withdrawn from marketing.

Ray:

That web page is somewhat misleading. The product has been
withdrawn from marketing and service only on OS/390 (z/OS).

COBOL for OS/390 and VM (5648-A25) V2R2 is still be marketed and
serviced for VM. Here is the info from the sales manual.

* IBM COBOL for VM 2.02.0 (5648-A25)
* IBM COBOL for OS/390 2.02.0 (5648-A25)
  (No Longer Available as of February 02, 2002)
  (Service Discontinued as of December 31, 2004)
* IBM COBOL for VM 2.01.0 (5648-A25)
  (No Longer Available as of September 29, 2000)
* IBM COBOL for OS/390 2.01.0 (5648-A25)
  (No Longer Available as of September 29, 2000)
  (Service Discontinued as of December 31, 2004)

Jim


Re: Erep help

2007-10-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
MAINT 201

 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 



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Subject: Erep help

 

I receiving the following errors when issuing the cperepxa command.

 

DMSOPN002E File ERPTFLIB TXTLIB * not found

DMSOPN002E File ERFTRLIB TXTLIB * not found

DMSOPN002E File EREPLIB TXTLIB * not found

,16:55:48  * MSG FROM MAINT   : NOT ALL TXTLIBS FOUND FOR CPEREPXA

 

I am trying to create the history following the steps in the EREP user
guide for VM

 

Thanks

Frank Sikich

 


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Erep help

2007-10-12 Thread Sikich, Frank J.
I receiving the following errors when issuing the cperepxa command.

 

DMSOPN002E File ERPTFLIB TXTLIB * not found

DMSOPN002E File ERFTRLIB TXTLIB * not found

DMSOPN002E File EREPLIB TXTLIB * not found

,16:55:48  * MSG FROM MAINT   : NOT ALL TXTLIBS FOUND FOR CPEREPXA

 

I am trying to create the history following the steps in the EREP user
guide for VM

 

Thanks

Frank Sikich

 


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Re: z/VM COBOL compiler

2007-10-12 Thread Ray Mansell

Ron Schmiedge wrote:

I believe it was withdrawn for MVS only, it is still available and
orderable for z/VM (at least it was when we ordered z/VM 5.2 last
year). It did take some coaxing and pointing to the right announcement
letter paragraphs to convince IBM of this, if I recall correctly.

Ron


Indeed... Romney just pointed me to this page:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/cobol/os390/

Ray


Re: z/VM COBOL compiler

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Schmiedge
I believe it was withdrawn for MVS only, it is still available and
orderable for z/VM (at least it was when we ordered z/VM 5.2 last
year). It did take some coaxing and pointing to the right announcement
letter paragraphs to convince IBM of this, if I recall correctly.

Ron

On 10/12/07, Ray Mansell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Julie Erickson wrote:
> > Is there a supported COBOL compiler on z/VM 5.2?  Is COBOL for OS/390 and
> > VM (product code 5648-A25) still supported and available?
> >
> > I found a posting from 2001 mentioning the above compiler.  It seems
> > pretty old.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any information.  I have some COBOL code on z/OS which I
> > would like to port to CMS on z/VM.
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Julie.
> >
> >
> Look here:
> http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/le/history/cobmvs.html
>
> According to this table, it is still supported for VM, but was long ago
> withdrawn from marketing.
>
> Ray
>


Re: z/VM COBOL compiler

2007-10-12 Thread Ray Mansell

Julie Erickson wrote:
Is there a supported COBOL compiler on z/VM 5.2?  Is COBOL for OS/390 and 
VM (product code 5648-A25) still supported and available?


I found a posting from 2001 mentioning the above compiler.  It seems 
pretty old.


I'd appreciate any information.  I have some COBOL code on z/OS which I 
would like to port to CMS on z/VM.


Thanks for your help,
Julie.

  
Look here: 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/le/history/cobmvs.html


According to this table, it is still supported for VM, but was long ago 
withdrawn from marketing.


Ray


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Bill Bitner
The idea is not unreasonable. We have discussed plan canidates in
the past that would be more graceful about page space filling up.
Not much agreement on what to do. This particular way of causing
havoc wasn't discussed. I'll pass it on to others to think about.
I don't recall having seen any formal requirements for this, but
seems reasonable.
On a side note, there is actual a limit on the size of individual
virtual machines due to various processor implementations. On
your box it happens to be 1TB. So even though you defined it
larger, CP limited it to a 1TB guest. Since the same directory
could be run on various machines, we don't enforce the max until
you actually try to logon.

Bit

Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>When I did an IND USER on him, it did say 1TB - must have taken him
>lower at logon time.  It happily let me put 1500GB in the directory.=20
>
>


SYSTEM CONFIG with IMBEDs

2007-10-12 Thread Brian Nielsen
The CPSYNTAX utility will check the syntax of system configuration files,
 
which is good, but does anybody have a tool/EXEC that shows the active 

statements after IMBEDs and overriding statements are processed?  I'm 
looking for something akin to the way VMFOVER works with PPF files and 

overrides.

Brian Nielsen


z/VM COBOL compiler

2007-10-12 Thread Julie Erickson
Is there a supported COBOL compiler on z/VM 5.2?  Is COBOL for OS/390 and
 
VM (product code 5648-A25) still supported and available?

I found a posting from 2001 mentioning the above compiler.  It seems 
pretty old.

I'd appreciate any information.  I have some COBOL code on z/OS which I 

would like to port to CMS on z/VM.

Thanks for your help,
Julie.


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Ray Mansell

Marcy Cortes wrote:

When I did an IND USER on him, it did say 1TB - must have taken him
lower at logon time.  It happily let me put 1500GB in the directory. 

  


Ah yes... that explains it. When you used the word "define", I thought 
you meant the DEFINE command.


And yes, you can put any (acceptable) value in the directory, but CP 
will enforce the maximum storage size at LOGON time according to the 
machine restrictions.


Ray


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
NO.
 
Just take the day off.

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I know, my gun my foot... 

But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to
check available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual
machine to be logged on?  

One shouldn't define a virtual machine of size 1500G when one
meant to do 1500M!  

Maybe I should just take a day off, huh? 


Marcy Cortes

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Re: Initial User Directory

2007-10-12 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:36:48 -0500, Brian Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
wrote:

>Maybe I'm just tired of having to make directory edits to remove default
 
>passwords for the last 25 years (in releases going all the way back to 

>VM/370) and who knows how far into the future.  I'm a big fan of fix it 

>once for everybody instead of everybody fix it once, and twice, and 
>thrice, and...
>
>Brian Nielsen
>
=
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Oh, and while we're at it (he said while doing a z/VM 5.3 install), let's
 
not forget all the default MDISK passwords that need to be changed too.

Ship all MDISKs with no passwords and use LNKNOPAS as needed during the 

install process and/or a supplied EXEC to change them all to customer 
supplied values.  (Yes, I have my own EXEC, but everybody shouldn't have 

to invent the wheel.)



Brian Nielsen


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Phil Tully

exactly what I thoughtset a vmsecure limit on virtual machine size.

Marcy Cortes wrote:


"x user direct" :)
Ooo! - VMSECURE exit!
Good idea!

Marcy Cortes
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> But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to check 
available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual machine to 
be logged on?
Just a thought - maybe a SIZEMAP tool would be helpful - to head that 
situation off.


I'm in the habit of doing:
1) x user direct
2) diskmap user => if any changes to a minidisk
3) directxa user

Maybe one more step would be prudent:
1) x user direct
2) diskmap user => if any changes to a minidisk
3) sizemap user => if any changes to virtual machines
4) directxa user

SIZEMAP would just create a report summarizing min/max machine sizes, 
or maybe it could be merged with DISKMAP.


Again, just a thought, perhaps a bit simplistic...

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Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
"x user direct" :)
 
Ooo! - VMSECURE exit! 
 
Good idea!
 
 

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> But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to check
available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual machine to
be logged on? 
Just a thought - maybe a SIZEMAP tool would be helpful - to head that
situation off. 

I'm in the habit of doing: 
1) x user direct 
2) diskmap user => if any changes to a minidisk 
3) directxa user 

Maybe one more step would be prudent: 
1) x user direct 
2) diskmap user => if any changes to a minidisk 
3) sizemap user => if any changes to virtual machines 
4) directxa user 

SIZEMAP would just create a report summarizing min/max machine sizes, or
maybe it could be merged with DISKMAP. 

Again, just a thought, perhaps a bit simplistic... 

"Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   (845) 433-7061


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
When I did an IND USER on him, it did say 1TB - must have taken him
lower at logon time.  It happily let me put 1500GB in the directory. 


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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Sanity check?

Marcy Cortes wrote:
> I know, my gun my foot...
>
> But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to check 
> available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual machine to

> be logged on?
> One shouldn't define a virtual machine of size 1500G when one meant to

> do 1500M!
>
> Maybe I should just take a day off, huh?
>   

OK... I have to ask. How did you manage to define a virtual machine
whose size was 1500G?

There's a machine-dependent limit on the maximum virtual storage size
(256GB for a z990, 1TB for a z9), so are you sure you successfully
defined 1500G? Or did CP enforce the maximum supported for your machine?

(Or maybe there's some way I'm not aware of to bypass this limit.)

Of course, even if CP did constrain you to the maximum supported, you'd
still be in trouble! I'm just curious concerning the actual numbers
quoted.

Ray Mansell

P.s. "Constrained to 1TB" is really a sign of the times. My very first
virtual machine, several decades ago, was 320KB!!


FW: [Fwd: IBM introduces "mainframe gas gauge"]

2007-10-12 Thread Phil Smith III
The note below was bouncing for some reason (or at least, it told Gabe it 
was...) 

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IBM introduces "mainframe gas gauge"

In an extension of the company's Project Big Green, IBM launched a
program that allows mainframe customers to monitor their systems'
precise energy consumption in real-time.
http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/22433.wss

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3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Czora
This was our test environment - z/VM 5.3, about 120 active VMs, 24 GB
memory divided 20 central and 4 expanded, and 54 mod-3s as paging
devices.  STORBUF is 300 300 300.  We've been short on memory for quite
a while (typically 72+ GB virtual), but evidently nothing is gonna help
in a case like this.

 

Michael Czora

Wells Fargo

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On 10/12/07, Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

> One shouldn't define a virtual machine of size 1500G when one meant to
do

> 1500M!

 

We have been spoiled by an operating system that only uses what you

need, rather than what you give it. So the big game with Linux is to

give it just what it needs...

 

Normally when paging space fills, you overflow into spool space.

Because spool space is often small that does not help you a lot and

you abend shortly after that. That message is clear.

 

But I assume this is z/VM 5.2 and you were starting a Linux virtual

machine, right?  If so, then I would expect your system stalled

because of PGMBK fragmentation. If you still have the performance data

from that period, it would be good to look at the ESAASPC report - if

possible with 1 minute granularity.

 

Rob

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Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
PAGE spills over into SPOOL when it fills. It could have taken more time
than you realize before filling both:-) 

 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 



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Subject: Re: Sanity check?

 

Luckily on the test/dev Linux system, not production!

 

Took 16 minutes to reach 90% page space, another 20 to reach 100% and
limped along for another 15 before we IPL'd out of it (thinking it was
our friend VM64297 not really solved).  When we came back up and that
server started near the end of the autolog list... paging rate when to
88K/sec to xstor and 40K/sec to dasd.Then I it occurred to me what
might have happpened... forced it --- and it took another 25 minutes or
so of it being logoff/force pending before it actually went away.

 

We didn't abend though... strangely.. at 100% page space. That would
have helped give me a clue sooner!

 

 

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Ouch.  It couldn't have been any worse if you had entered 1500T, 1500P,
or 1500E!  When you're out of chips (memory or potato) you're out of
chips. 
Want to buy a different consonant?  Maybe Sir Rich of Consonants would
sell one to you? 

So, how did it take for CP to choke after the LOGON command was
displayed on the console? 

And... yes.  To me your suggestion makes eminent sense - particularly
given that IBM does not ship z's with 16E of real storage, nor would
z/VM support that much.  I do wonder how much physical space 16E of z
storage would take.  :-) 

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates 



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I know, my gun my foot... 

But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to check
available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual machine to
be logged on?   

One shouldn't define a virtual machine of size 1500G when one meant to
do 1500M!   

Maybe I should just take a day off, huh? 

Marcy Cortes

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IBM introduces "mainframe gas gauge"

2007-10-12 Thread Gabe Goldberg

IBM introduces "mainframe gas gauge"

In an extension of the company's Project Big Green, IBM launched a
program that allows mainframe customers to monitor their systems'
precise energy consumption in real-time.
http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/22433.wss

--
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3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: DFSMS

2007-10-12 Thread Bill Munson
When you log on to shop z series to order z/VM 5.3.0 and SDO you have to 
check off DFSMS, RSCS, RACF, Dirmaint features of 5.3.0 as well as any 
other program products you want like VTAM and HLASM.


good luck

Bill Munson
VM System Programmer
Office of Information Technology
State of New Jersey
(609) 984-4065

President MVMUA
http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua



Huegel, Thomas wrote:

Does anyone know?
Is DFSMS, at least RMS shipped in the z/VM 5.2 base?
I sure can't find it.

Or does it have to be ordered seperatly when I place my 5.3 order?

Thanks



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Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Michael MacIsaac
> But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to check 
available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual machine to be 
logged on? 
Just a thought - maybe a SIZEMAP tool would be helpful - to head that 
situation off.

I'm in the habit of doing:
1) x user direct
2) diskmap user => if any changes to a minidisk
3) directxa user

Maybe one more step would be prudent:
1) x user direct
2) diskmap user => if any changes to a minidisk
3) sizemap user => if any changes to virtual machines
4) directxa user

SIZEMAP would just create a report summarizing min/max machine sizes, or 
maybe it could be merged with DISKMAP.

Again, just a thought, perhaps a bit simplistic...

"Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   (845) 433-7061

DFSMS

2007-10-12 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Does anyone know?
Is DFSMS, at least RMS shipped in the z/VM 5.2 base?
I sure can't find it.

Or does it have to be ordered seperatly when I place my 5.3 order?

Thanks



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Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Ray Mansell

Marcy Cortes wrote:

I know, my gun my foot...

But does anyone else think it might be a good idea for CP to check
available page space before allowing a (really big) virtual machine to
be logged on?  
One shouldn't define a virtual machine of size 1500G when one meant to
do 1500M!  


Maybe I should just take a day off, huh?
  


OK... I have to ask. How did you manage to define a virtual machine 
whose size was 1500G?


There's a machine-dependent limit on the maximum virtual storage size 
(256GB for a z990, 1TB for a z9), so are you sure you successfully 
defined 1500G? Or did CP enforce the maximum supported for your machine? 
(Or maybe there's some way I'm not aware of to bypass this limit.)


Of course, even if CP did constrain you to the maximum supported, you'd 
still be in trouble! I'm just curious concerning the actual numbers quoted.


Ray Mansell

P.s. "Constrained to 1TB" is really a sign of the times. My very first 
virtual machine, several decades ago, was 320KB!!


Re: Sanity check?

2007-10-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 10/12/07, Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One shouldn't define a virtual machine of size 1500G when one meant to do
> 1500M!

We have been spoiled by an operating system that only uses what you
need, rather than what you give it. So the big game with Linux is to
give it just what it needs...

Normally when paging space fills, you overflow into spool space.
Because spool space is often small that does not help you a lot and
you abend shortly after that. That message is clear.

But I assume this is z/VM 5.2 and you were starting a Linux virtual
machine, right?  If so, then I would expect your system stalled
because of PGMBK fragmentation. If you still have the performance data
from that period, it would be good to look at the ESAASPC report - if
possible with 1 minute granularity.

Rob
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Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software, Inc
http://velocitysoftware.com/