Re: XML on VM

[A. Harry Williams]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:49:14 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said:
>Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts
>We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system.
>Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS.  
>With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that
>may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems.  So far, it works.
>We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents.  I can 
>write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the
>items
>of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the 
>XML world.
>Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file?
>Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service 
>machine, which will wake up and process it.
>Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, 
>and do everything really nifty .
>I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails.  I'm only 
>looking for VM responses in this email.
There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page.  It's a pipeline filter that
creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document.  I've experimented
with it but never used it for anything significant.

http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE

http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc

>Thanks
>Tom Duerbusch
>THD Consulting

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Thomas Kern]

I have a .het file (compressed AWS, I think). It has 9 tape files with
the real files named in a pattern for some sort of a file sharing
system. I will write a rexx exec tomorrow to rename each file to it's
original fn/ft and create a VMARC for each tape file. I will then create
an AWS tape-file with the 9 VMARC files dumped via VMFPLC2.  I will also
create a VMARC of the VMARC files, and download that. I like using the
VMA utility on my PC to look at VM files for reference. I will arrange
to get both of these to David Boyes for public availability.

There do not seem to be any copyright statements in any of the source,
update or documentation files.

/Tom Kern

David Boyes wrote:
> Sure. Send them to me and I'll put them up.
> 
> On 11/18/08 1:54 PM, "Thomas Kern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely
>> distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it may
>> have been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look at
>> the copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out from.
>>
>> Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download site?
> 

Dumping the z/VM Reader Queue to a Tape

[John Franciscovich]

>Can any one tell me the best way or what commands to use to dump the reader
> and print spool queues to tape?

To dump all of the files on each of the reader, print and punch queues:

SPXTAPE DUMP vdev RDR ALL
SPXTAPE DUMP vdev PRT ALL
SPXTAPE DUMP vdev PUN ALL

You can also dump all of these with a single command:

SPXTAPE DUMP vdev STD ALL

vdev is the virtual address of the tape drive attached to the virtual
machine. You can also specify multiple tape drives as a range of
vdev-vdev.

If you are backing up your spool volumes, be sure to also dump all of
your NSS, DCSS, and other "system data files" which also reside in
spool space:

SPXTAPE DUMP vdev NSS ALL
   etc., or
SPXTAPE DUMP vdev SDF ALL
to dump all types of system data files.

There are many other variations of these commands. See the
CP Command and Utilities Reference for more details.

John Franciscovich
z/VM Development

Re: Our old buddy Mark Cathcart

[Mark Cathcart]

by the way, today we announced our intension to acquire Transitive to 
enhance our virtualization options.
http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/ibm-annouces-plans-to-acquire-
transitive/

Re: Our old buddy Mark Cathcart

[Mark Cathcart]

Hey Phil, "among others" not sure what you mean. I worked Chemical Bank 

between 1982-1986, IFR Publishing in London for 1987, and IBM since then.
.. 

Talk about paging space and recall times...

Re: REXX DATE function

[Mark Wheeler]

The IBM z/VM Operating System  wrote on 11/18/2008
03:33:48 PM:

> I am trying to run the following code:
> 
>
> /*  */
> date1='12 OCT 2008'
  date1='12 Oct 2008'
> date2='13 OCT 2008'
  date2='13 Oct 2008'

Fussy, no?

Mark L. Wheeler
IT Infrastructure, 3M Center B224-4N-20, St Paul MN 55144
Tel:  (651) 733-4355, Fax:  (651) 736-7689
mlwheeler at mmm.com
--
"I have this theory that if one person can go out of their way to show
compassion then it will start a chain reaction of the same. People will
never know how far a little kindness can go." Rachel Joy Scott

REXX DATE function

[Gentry, Stephen]

I am trying to run the following code:


/*  */
date1='12 OCT 2008'   
date2='13 OCT 2008'   
trace i   
date11 = DATE('B',date1)  
date21 = DATE('B',date2)  
say '-->diff=:'date21-date11-1
exit  



When I do, I get the following results:

SRGELAPS

 5 *-* date11 = DATE('B',date1)

   >L>   "B"

   >V>   "12 OCT 2008"

 5 +++ date11 = DATE('B',date1)

DMSREX475E Error 40 running SRGELAPS EXEC, line 5: Incorrect call to
routine

Why am I doing wrong?  HELP REXX DATE shows the DATE format that I am
using to be valid.  I've tried plugging in the actual date (with quotes)
and get the same results.
Thanks,
Steve G.

Re: z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure

[Michael Coffin]

Yes, works fine (including the Rules Facility).  What do you need to
know?
 
-Mike

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Is there somebody having some experiences with that combination already?
 
Regards,
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Dumping the z/VM Reader Queue to a Tape

[Howard Rifkind]

Hello, 
 
Can any one tell me the best way or what commands to use to dump the reader and 
print spool queues to tape?
 
Thanks


  

Re: A little oddity

[Rob van der Heij]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just trying to do some housekeeping and got a strange display to a 
> simple listfile command.
>
> It looks like the old Y2K bug is alive and well...
> I did not know we had CMS file system in 1908...

You may want to get a fresh copy of VMARC so that it picks up the
century bit from the FST in the archive.

-Rob

Re: A little oddity

[Rick Giz]

Mine's older, 1900.  What do I win?

$FCOPY$  $PROFILE Z2 V 79 43  1  2/05/1998 14:07:48
$FCOPY$  HELPCMS  Z1 V 79150  2  5/09/1900 15:25:11
$FCOPY$  XEDITZ2 V116901  7  8/24/1998  7:48:19

I do have other things that do display correctly as 2000. 

z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, Service Level 0801
CMS Level 23, Service Level 801

Regards,
Rick Giz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
770-781-3206

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Subject: A little oddity

I was just trying to do some housekeeping and got a strange display to a
simple listfile command.

It looks like the old Y2K bug is alive and well...
I did not know we had CMS file system in 1908...



listfile * * b (d before 2000-11-18 full

 FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME

DISKACNT PROFILE  B1 V 72 10  1 11/10/2000 10:26:39 
FLIST$PROFILE B2 V 78 31  1 10/27/1908 13:13:14 
FULIST   $PROFILE B2 V 78 16  1 10/27/1908 13:14:11 
FULRDR   $PROFILE B2 F 80 14  1 10/27/1908 13:42:03 
GENNOREA EXEC B1 V 63 26  1  6/29/1993 13:55:53 
NOREAD   ASM  B1 V 71210  3  6/29/1993 13:07:36 
PROFFLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 34  9 10/27/1908 11:30:47 
PROFRLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 18  5 10/27/1908 11:30:47 
SCAN EXEC B2 V 90269  4  7/01/1988 11:24:07 
SCAN HELPCMS  B2 V 79147  3  8/21/1986 12:48:48 
XBROWSE  HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 11/11/1908 17:07:01 
XBROWSE  MODULE   B1 V  65535 12153 11/11/1908 17:07:01 
XXBR HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 11/11/1908 17:07:01

Re: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 06:01 EST, "Les Geer (607-429-3580)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I am not sure I read correctly, but I thought support for z/VM 4.3 
had
> >> ended a while ago
> >> someone  is trying to tell me it ends April 2009
> >> won't be 1st time I am wrong
> >>
> >> EOS 5/31/2005 from this link ?
> >>
> >> http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML
> >
> >You are correct.  April 2009 is the EoS date for z/VM *5*.3.
> 
> Actually April 2009 is the EoS date for z/VM 5.2.
> z/VM 5.3 EoS is September 2010.

LOL!  I couldn't get out of paper bag today if someone held the end open 
for me!  A new keyboard and old fingers are a dangerous combination!  (Oh. 
 Wait.  Chuckie did it.  Yeah, that's the ticket!)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: A little oddity

[Mike Walter]

Those would be from VM/36 (unrelated to System 36, an early precursor to 
VM/370 - that's a JOKE for those who find this years in the future). 

What z/VM release level are those from?

Our z/VM 5.1 system reports $PROFILEs (to pick just one filetype) with:
Filename Filetype Fm Format LreclRecords Blocks   Date   Time 
FLIST$PROFILE Y2 V 78 31  1 1993-03-24 
15:10:55
BROWSE   $PROFILE Y2 V 61 30  1 1991-07-15 
18:15:02

z/VM 5.2 with:
Filename Filetype Fm Format LreclRecords Blocks   Date   Time  

FLIST$PROFILE S2 V 78 31  1 2001-05-01 
16:01:42 
BROWSE   $PROFILE S2 V 61 30  1 2001-05-01 
16:01:21 
FLIST$PROFILE Y2 V 78 31  1 1993-03-24 
15:10:55 
BROWSE   $PROFILE Y2 V 61 30  1 1991-07-15 
18:15:02 

and z/VM 5.4 with:
Filename Filetype Fm Format LreclRecords Blocks   Date   Time 
FLIST$PROFILE S2 V 78 31  1 2001-05-01 
16:01:42
FLIST$PROFILE V2 V 78 31  1 2001-05-01 
16:01:42
BROWSE   $PROFILE S2 V 61 30  1 2001-05-01 
16:01:21
BROWSE   $PROFILE V2 V 61 30  1 2001-05-01 
16:01:21 

Actually, what MINIDISK are those from?

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. 



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I was just trying to do some housekeeping and got a strange display to a 
simple listfile command.

It looks like the old Y2K bug is alive and well...
I did not know we had CMS file system in 1908...



listfile * * b (d before 2000-11-18 full

 FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME 
 
DISKACNT PROFILE  B1 V 72 10  1 11/10/2000 
10:26:39 
FLIST$PROFILE B2 V 78 31  1 10/27/1908 
13:13:14 
FULIST   $PROFILE B2 V 78 16  1 10/27/1908 
13:14:11 
FULRDR   $PROFILE B2 F 80 14  1 10/27/1908 
13:42:03 
GENNOREA EXEC B1 V 63 26  1  6/29/1993 
13:55:53 
NOREAD   ASM  B1 V 71210  3  6/29/1993 
13:07:36 
PROFFLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 34  9 10/27/1908 
11:30:47 
PROFRLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 18  5 10/27/1908 
11:30:47 
SCAN EXEC B2 V 90269  4  7/01/1988 
11:24:07 
SCAN HELPCMS  B2 V 79147  3  8/21/1986 
12:48:48 
XBROWSE  HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 11/11/1908 
17:07:01 
XBROWSE  MODULE   B1 V  65535 12153 11/11/1908 
17:07:01 
XXBR HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 11/11/1908 
17:07:01 






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Re: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

[Les Geer (607-429-3580)]

>> I am not sure I read correctly, but I thought support for z/VM 4.3 had
>> ended a while ago
>> someone  is trying to tell me it ends April 2009
>> won't be 1st time I am wrong
>>
>> EOS 5/31/2005 from this link ?
>>
>> http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML
>
>You are correct.  April 2009 is the EoS date for z/VM *5*.3.

Actually April 2009 is the EoS date for z/VM 5.2.
z/VM 5.3 EoS is September 2010.

Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development

Re: Alt DRCT area

[Mike Walter]

Each night an automated process here uses DIRECTXA to write a current copy 
of the USER DIRECT file (extracted fresh from VM:Secure, and with an 
"adjusted" DIRECTORY statement) to a DASD different than the production 
sysres. 

It would only be used in a wildly unexpected disaster.  We already have a 
standand-alone minimal z/VM 'rescue system' I called the "VM Operating S
ystem Hipervisor Tool", naturally residing on it's own mnemonically 
labeled sysres: VMOSHT

Those, and various other recovery bits and pieces help me sleep better. At 
night of course, never during the day! 

It's simply a matter of remembering where all the bits and pieces are 
should something goes bump (or scratch) in the night that 
makes it more difficult to sleep.  But I've never needed them... so THERE! 
 One usually only need recovery tools when one didn't create them. Prepare 
for the worst, enjoy the best (z/VM)!

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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In the old days, an alternate directory area, was always built on another 
drive.

It was fairly easy.

On another CPOWNed pack, use CPFMTXA to format a few cylinders and mark it 
as directory area.
When you do a DIRECTXA, it reads the directory record:  DIRECTORY 123 3390 
520RES 
and put the directory on virtual address 123 volume 520RES.

Use rexx or something to update that record to 124 and 520W01 (for 
example) and do the DIRECTXA again.

I don't know how to do it nowadays, but when we IPL'ed, we had a option to 
say what pack the CP System areas were on.  Come to think of it, that was 
in the DMKSYS daysVM/SP.  wow!

My guess, is that you would need to put a CP Minidisk (such as CF3), on 
the same pack as your direct area, and IPL from that pack (when 
necessary).  But I'm just guessing...

So, in your method of putting another DRCT area on a pack, how would you 
ever use it?

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/2008 4:13 PM >>>
On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 09:46 EST, Aisik Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this 
alternate DRCT 
> avaialble ?

By the way, even though you can bring any directory online while the 
system is up, remember that the system will search for the first DRCT 
extents it can find at IPL (see the CP Planning book), which may not be 
the directory space you activated with DIRECTXA.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott





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Re: A little oddity

[Schuh, Richard]

Herman Hollerith invented it. That is why the initial CMS file system
had 80-byte fixed length records :)

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:47 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: A little oddity
> 
> I was just trying to do some housekeeping and got a strange 
> display to a simple listfile command.
> 
> It looks like the old Y2K bug is alive and well...
> I did not know we had CMS file system in 1908...
> 
> 
> 
> listfile * * b (d before 2000-11-18 full
> 
>  FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS 
> DATE TIME   
> DISKACNT PROFILE  B1 V 72 10  1 
> 11/10/2000 10:26:39 
> FLIST$PROFILE B2 V 78 31  1 
> 10/27/1908 13:13:14 
> FULIST   $PROFILE B2 V 78 16  1 
> 10/27/1908 13:14:11 
> FULRDR   $PROFILE B2 F 80 14  1 
> 10/27/1908 13:42:03 
> GENNOREA EXEC B1 V 63 26  1  
> 6/29/1993 13:55:53 
> NOREAD   ASM  B1 V 71210  3  
> 6/29/1993 13:07:36 
> PROFFLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 34  9 
> 10/27/1908 11:30:47 
> PROFRLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 18  5 
> 10/27/1908 11:30:47 
> SCAN EXEC B2 V 90269  4  
> 7/01/1988 11:24:07 
> SCAN HELPCMS  B2 V 79147  3  
> 8/21/1986 12:48:48 
> XBROWSE  HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 
> 11/11/1908 17:07:01 
> XBROWSE  MODULE   B1 V  65535 12153 
> 11/11/1908 17:07:01 
> XXBR HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 
> 11/11/1908 17:07:01  
> 

Re: Alt DRCT area

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 05:27 EST, Tom Duerbusch 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> So, in your method of putting another DRCT area on a pack, how would you 
ever 
> use it?

It was just an experiment.  Now you've made me gather more data.  (sigh) 
There are specific rules for bringing a directory online (diag 0x3C, used 
by DIRECTXA):
- If there is an active directory, DIRECTXA can only bring a new directory 
online if it is located on the same volume as the active directory.
- If there is NO active directory (IPL NODIRECT, directory volume is 
offline), DIRECTXA can bring a new directory online as long as the volume 
is in the CP-owned list.
- The minidisk must begin with cylinder 0 (not documented for diag 0x3C)

The experiment would fail on the last rule.  You can fake out DIRECTXA, 
but you can't get CP to accept it.  Well, that's *one* way not to make a 
light bulb, eh?  :-)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

A little oddity

[Huegel, Thomas]

I was just trying to do some housekeeping and got a strange display to a simple 
listfile command.

It looks like the old Y2K bug is alive and well...
I did not know we had CMS file system in 1908...



listfile * * b (d before 2000-11-18 full

 FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME   
DISKACNT PROFILE  B1 V 72 10  1 11/10/2000 10:26:39 
FLIST$PROFILE B2 V 78 31  1 10/27/1908 13:13:14 
FULIST   $PROFILE B2 V 78 16  1 10/27/1908 13:14:11 
FULRDR   $PROFILE B2 F 80 14  1 10/27/1908 13:42:03 
GENNOREA EXEC B1 V 63 26  1  6/29/1993 13:55:53 
NOREAD   ASM  B1 V 71210  3  6/29/1993 13:07:36 
PROFFLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 34  9 10/27/1908 11:30:47 
PROFRLST MODXEDIT B2 F   1024 18  5 10/27/1908 11:30:47 
SCAN EXEC B2 V 90269  4  7/01/1988 11:24:07 
SCAN HELPCMS  B2 V 79147  3  8/21/1986 12:48:48 
XBROWSE  HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 11/11/1908 17:07:01 
XBROWSE  MODULE   B1 V  65535 12153 11/11/1908 17:07:01 
XXBR HELPCMS  B1 V 81117  2 11/11/1908 17:07:01  

Re: Alt DRCT area

[Tom Duerbusch]

In the old days, an alternate directory area, was always built on another drive.

It was fairly easy.

On another CPOWNed pack, use CPFMTXA to format a few cylinders and mark it as 
directory area.
When you do a DIRECTXA, it reads the directory record:  DIRECTORY 123 3390 
520RES 
and put the directory on virtual address 123 volume 520RES.

Use rexx or something to update that record to 124 and 520W01 (for example) and 
do the DIRECTXA again.

I don't know how to do it nowadays, but when we IPL'ed, we had a option to say 
what pack the CP System areas were on.  Come to think of it, that was in the 
DMKSYS daysVM/SP.  wow!

My guess, is that you would need to put a CP Minidisk (such as CF3), on the 
same pack as your direct area, and IPL from that pack (when necessary).  But 
I'm just guessing...

So, in your method of putting another DRCT area on a pack, how would you ever 
use it?

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/2008 4:13 PM >>>
On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 09:46 EST, Aisik Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this 
alternate DRCT 
> avaialble ?

By the way, even though you can bring any directory online while the 
system is up, remember that the system will search for the first DRCT 
extents it can find at IPL (see the CP Planning book), which may not be 
the directory space you activated with DIRECTXA.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: XML on VM

[Huegel, Thomas]

There is such a thing, I played with it about a year or two ago, I don't 
remember too much about it.. It was maybe a XML parser in WEBSHARE ... I'll 
look at my notes to see if I wrote anything down about it.. If i find anything 
further I'll let you know. 

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Subject: XML on VM


Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts

We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system.

Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS.  With 
a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that may need to be 
sent down to one or more VSE systems.  So far, it works.

We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents.  I can 
write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the items of 
interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the XML 
world.  

Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file?

Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service 
machine, which will wake up and process it.

Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, 
and do everything really nifty .

I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails.  I'm only 
looking for VM responses in this email.

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

Re: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 04:58 EST, August Carideo 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not sure I read correctly, but I thought support for z/VM 4.3 had
> ended a while ago
> someone  is trying to tell me it ends April 2009
> won't be 1st time I am wrong
> 
> EOS 5/31/2005 from this link ?
> 
> http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML

You are correct.  April 2009 is the EoS date for z/VM *5*.3. 

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: Alt DRCT area

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 09:46 EST, Aisik Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this 
alternate DRCT 
> avaialble ?

By the way, even though you can bring any directory online while the 
system is up, remember that the system will search for the first DRCT 
extents it can find at IPL (see the CP Planning book), which may not be 
the directory space you activated with DIRECTXA.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

[Wandschneider, Scott]

I think z/VM 4.3's EOS was May 31, 2005 


Scott R Wandschneider

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-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
August Carideo
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:55 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

I am not sure I read correctly, but I thought support for z/VM 4.3 had ended a 
while ago someone  is trying to tell me it ends April 2009 won't be 1st time I 
am wrong

EOS 5/31/2005 from this link ?

http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML

thanks,
Augie

Re: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

[David Boyes]

"It's dead, Jim." 8-)

AFAIK, all the 32-bit only versions are dead and gone out of service. 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of August Carideo
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:55 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?
> 
> I am not sure I read correctly, but I thought support for z/VM 4.3 had
> ended a while ago
> someone  is trying to tell me it ends April 2009
> won't be 1st time I am wrong
> 
> EOS 5/31/2005 from this link ?
> 
> http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML
> 
> thanks,
> Augie

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

[Raymond Noal]

Installing FireFox 3.x is my planned next step. Thanks to all who responded.

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
David Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

> I've tried IE 6 and FireFox 2.0.0.6. In both cases the FTP transfer
> started and it no sooner started and then finished. The resultant file
of
> the transfer was only 1K for what should have been an 2-3GB source
file.

IE6 is known to fail reliably. 

Firefox 2 should work, although 3 is obviously better. 

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

[David Boyes]

> I've tried IE 6 and FireFox 2.0.0.6. In both cases the FTP transfer
> started and it no sooner started and then finished. The resultant file
of
> the transfer was only 1K for what should have been an 2-3GB source
file.

IE6 is known to fail reliably. 

Firefox 2 should work, although 3 is obviously better. 

Z/Vm 4.3 EOS ?

[August Carideo]

I am not sure I read correctly, but I thought support for z/VM 4.3 had
ended a while ago
someone  is trying to tell me it ends April 2009
won't be 1st time I am wrong

EOS 5/31/2005 from this link ?

http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML

thanks,
Augie

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

[Raymond Noal]

I've tried IE 6 and FireFox 2.0.0.6. In both cases the FTP transfer started and 
it no sooner started and then finished. The resultant file of the transfer was 
only 1K for what should have been an 2-3GB source file.


HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
Walter
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:20 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

To. Give Mark a head start: can you define " neither of them works."?
Some releases of IE are known to silently truncate files at 2G.

What happens with Firefox.

And what releases of each use you using?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates



- Original Message -
From: "Raymond Noal" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/17/2008 04:53 PM PST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z



Mark,

What do you recommend someone use to download files from the Novell site for 
zSeries Linux files? I've tried MS Internet Explorer and Mozilla/FireFox and 
neither of them works.

TIA

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS
Raymond E. Noal
Senior Technical Engineer
Office: (408) 970 - 7978

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
Post
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:28 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

Cross-posted to IBM-MAIN, IBMVM, and Linux-390

It's been what seems like forever coming, but Novell, David Boyes and I are 
happy to announce the immediate availability of the SUSE Linux Enterprise 
Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z.  To provide an overview of what 
the starter system is for, I'll quote from the installation guide:
"The SUSE Enterprise Linux Server (SLES) Starter System is a pre-built 
installatiostuan server for SLES that can be installed on your z/VM system 
using CMS tools, eliminating the need for coordinating access to a separate 
Linux or Unix system elsewhere on your network and minimizing the impact of 
network-based installation on your internal and external networks."

Typically, one of the biggest hassles of trying out mainframe Linux has been 
getting access to the installation media from the mainframe.  Novell is 
providing the starter system, at no cost, to eliminate that hassle, and get you 
moving on your SLES10 proof of concept project faster.  This will allow you to 
spend more time on the part of the project that your business really cares 
about: testing the applications you want to run on SLES for System z.

It's important to understand that the starter system is intended to be used 
_only_ as an installation server.  To again quote from the installation guide:
"The starter system image has been highly customized for use as an installation 
server for other SLES-based Linux servers running in virtual machines.  The 
starter system is NOT suitable for general use and you should not attempt to 
use it for any other purpose."

Note that the starter system does require having z/VM in-house.  Doing it that 
way made the whole project much easier to tackle and get out the door in a 
reasonable period of time.  If you don't already have z/VM, you need to do what 
a number of people have been saying for some time now: contact your IBM rep. 
and get a no-cost evaluation copy of z/VM.  You'll be glad you did, because it 
will make your life much easier.

To download the starter system, you need to have a Novell Customer Center 
account, just as for any other Novell product.  If your organization doesn't 
already have an NCC account, it doesn't cost you anything to create one.  
(Prior to joining Novell, I created an NCC account, and I didn't get any spam 
as a result, so don't let that keep you from signing up.)  Just go to
https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp
and fill in the form.

Once you have your NCC account and password established, go to
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=M5V5-w8h2M0~
and click on the "proceed to download" button.  You'll see a list of 12 files.  
One of them is a .iso file, which contains all the others.  It's not necessary 
to download it, but we wanted to make things convenient for anyone that wanted 
to actually create a DVD for whatever reason.

Before you download anything, I strongly recommend reading through the 
installation guide.  It's viewable online, via the "view" button for "Install 
instructions."  Or, you can download the PDF (or .txt) file to your desktop by 
clicking on the download button for s10sp1.pdf, or s10sp1.txt.  Hopefully, 
everything you'll need to know is contained in that document.  We tried to 
proof the document and the process as carefully possible, and make it as clear 
as possible.  If you have any suggestions for improvement, please sen

XML on VM

[Tom Duerbusch]

Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts

We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system.

Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS.  With 
a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that may need to be 
sent down to one or more VSE systems.  So far, it works.

We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents.  I can 
write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the items of 
interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the XML 
world.  

Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file?

Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service 
machine, which will wake up and process it.

Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, 
and do everything really nifty .

I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails.  I'm only 
looking for VM responses in this email.

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Kris Buelens]

Actually there have been 3277's that displayed mixed case.  The test
room in IBM BE was equipped with a mixture of both.  I always looked
for one that was mixed case capable.  Even when I had no luck, I tried
to work with mixed case but couldn't verify my typings then.

2008/11/18 Scully, William P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hmm.  OK, how about this.
>
> - He's on a real 3278 with the blue switch which selects:  a,A  /  A
>
> - Or perhaps a 3277, where the display is always in upper-case, even
> though the keyboard strokes are in mixed case.



--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Scully, William P]

Hmm.  OK, how about this.  

- He's on a real 3278 with the blue switch which selects:  a,A  /  A

- Or perhaps a 3277, where the display is always in upper-case, even
though the keyboard strokes are in mixed case.  
- Or, while we're grasping at straws, how about this:  Someone removed
that APAR from 1980-something which corrected the boo-boo where CP would
allow a 3270-data stream to be sent in a MSGNOH that could be used to
include like, "Hi Alan!<3270 invisible control char>CP
SHUTDOWN   Next time Alan presses the ENTER
key, KABOOM!

OK, I'm really just making stuff up now.  

(Why am I replying to Alan?  For some reason I didn't get the original
email.  And besides, it's fun to tease the animals in the zoo.)

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:58 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 11:30 EST, "Scully, William P" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan, doesn't the setting of CP TERM MODE have an effect on commands?
> In TERM MODE CP everything is uppercase.

Yes, TERM MODE CP would give the symptoms of upper case input redisplay,

but the example showed the "Ready;" message.  That means it was TERM
MODE 
VM.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: Guest LAN definition for z/OS guest

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 12:43 EST, Bruce Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Doesn't it depend on which type of guest LAN you defined?  I.e., TYPE
> HIPERS or TYPE QDIO?  The default is a hipersockets type.  (I have no
> z/OS experience!)
> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Neale Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > For a guest LAN what is the device type used in the DEVICE statement 
for a
> > z/OS guest? MPCOSA or MPCIPA (or something else)?
> >

MPCOSA is for OSA-2 (OSE) chpids.  MPCIPA is for HiperSockets (IQD) and 
OSA-Express2 (OSD).  See the z/OS IP Configuration Reference.

So for VM, use MPCIPA.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: Alt DRCT area

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 09:54 EST, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Note: you need a write link to a FULLPACK minidisk that covers the DRCT 
area.

... because DIRECTXA looks at the ALLOCATION MAP on the volume to find the 
DRCT area.  Kind of prehistoric, after a fashion, but it makes sense when 
you remember that DIRECTXA is also designed to run standalone.

As an experiment in the lab (always wear eye protection and use a fume 
hood):
1. Create a 1-cyl minidisk immediately in front of the DRCT area
2. Create a mindisk that deliberately and with malice of forethought 
overlaps both areas.
3. Link the 1-cyl disk, CPFMXTXA FORMAT, then DETACH
4. Link to the the mdisk that overlaps BOTH.
5. Then CPFMTXA ALLOC cyls 1-END as DRCT. 

In theory, you now have a minidisk that doesn't expose the entire volume 
but can be used by DIRECTXA.

It'd be nicer if DIRECTXA had an option to say "I know it's a minidisk. 
Now shut up and use it."

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: SSLSERV

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 03:06 EST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Yes, you have seen the specs or Yes, it will support more than 128
> connections?

Yes, I have seen the specs.  Yes, it will support more than 128 
connections.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: LPAR + Linux + Xen

[Mark Post]

>>> On 11/18/2008 at  3:13 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if anyone of you had already either installed or 
> configured Linuz on zSeries running natively on a LPAR with Xen. I know 
> that this might sound very weird for most of you , but a customer had 
> asked me about this and I need to understand the major drawbacks of this 
> implementation to try convincing them that this isn't  the best solution.

No.  Xen currently does not run on System z.  Hopefully your customer will find 
that a convincing reason.


Mark Post

Re: LPAR + Linux + Xen

[Richard Troth]

LPAR implies the s390 (or s390x) instruction set and architecture.
Xen implies the i386 (or ia64 or x86_64) instruction set and architecture.
The two are really unrelated.


-- Rick;   <><





On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:13 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know if anyone of you had already either installed or
> configured Linuz on zSeries running natively on a LPAR with Xen. I know that
> this might sound very weird for most of you , but a customer had asked me
> about this and I need to understand the major drawbacks of this
> implementation to try convincing them that this isn't  the best solution.
>
> Any thoughts will be truly appreciated.
>
> With kind regards,
>
>
> Juari Alves D. dos Santos
> IBM  Brazil / FTSS
>

LPAR + Linux + Xen

[juarids]

Hi,

I would like to know if anyone of you had already either installed or 
configured Linuz on zSeries running natively on a LPAR with Xen. I know 
that this might sound very weird for most of you , but a customer had 
asked me about this and I need to understand the major drawbacks of this 
implementation to try convincing them that this isn't  the best solution.

Any thoughts will be truly appreciated.

With kind regards,


Juari Alves D. dos Santos
IBM  Brazil / FTSS

Re: SSLSERV

[Schuh, Richard]

Yes, you have seen the specs or Yes, it will support more than 128
connections? 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:01 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: SSLSERV
> 
> On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 02:51 EST, "Huegel, Thomas" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Has anyone  seen specs for the new CMS based SSL that will be 
> > available
> next 
> > month for 5.4  (maybe earlier releases too) Will it  
> support more 
> > than 128 connections?
> 
> Yes.  :-)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 

Re: SSLSERV

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 02:51 EST, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Has anyone  seen specs for the new CMS based SSL that will be available 
next 
> month for 5.4  (maybe earlier releases too)
> Will it  support more than 128 connections?

Yes.  :-)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 11:30 EST, "Scully, William P" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan, doesn't the setting of CP TERM MODE have an effect on commands?
> In TERM MODE CP everything is uppercase.

Yes, TERM MODE CP would give the symptoms of upper case input redisplay, 
but the example showed the "Ready;" message.  That means it was TERM MODE 
VM.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[RPN01]

Rather than posting your ³perceived solution² to your problem, can you tell
us what your actual problem is? What are you trying to solve, as opposed to
what you think the solution might be?

By the way: CMS has been able to accept lower case at the command line for
many years. CP tends to convert everything to upper-case, but not CMS.


-- 
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RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\
507-284-0844   Rochester, MN 55905   /( )\
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"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
 in practice, theory and practice are different."




On 11/18/08 9:07 AM, "Ray Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert to
> uppercase.
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?
>  
> Ray Waters
>  
>  
>  
> 
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Re: SSLSERV

[Huegel, Thomas]

Has anyone seen specs for the new CMS based SSL that will be available next 
month for 5.4 (maybe earlier releases too)
Will it support more than 128 connections?

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Suleiman Shahin
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:18 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SSLSERV


More light coming -:) Thanks so much.

Suleiman Shahin




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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:44 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SSLSERV
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

One per TCPIP stack. You need to use some kind of connection distribution 
outside the VM stack to manage distributing connections to multiple stacks (eg, 
LVS or a outboard load balancer with connection persistence capabilities).


On 11/18/08 1:06 PM, "Suleiman Shahin" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> wrote:



Greetings,

In the "light" of the restriction of 128  concurrent secured sessions on a 
system, can one (I) utilise more than one SSL server, and what mechanism can be 
used to have one server or the other service the connection?



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Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[David Boyes]

Sure. Send them to me and I'll put them up.

On 11/18/08 1:54 PM, "Thomas Kern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely
> distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it may
> have been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look at
> the copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out from.
> 
> Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download site?

Re: SSLSERV

[Suleiman Shahin]

More light coming -:) Thanks so much.

Suleiman Shahin





Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:44 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SSLSERV
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU





Re: SSLSERV


One per TCPIP stack. You need to use some kind of connection distribution 
outside the VM stack to manage distributing connections to multiple stacks (eg, 
LVS or a outboard load balancer with connection persistence capabilities). 





On 11/18/08 1:06 PM, "Suleiman Shahin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Greetings,



In the "light" of the restriction of 128  concurrent secured sessions on a 
system, can one (I) utilise more than one SSL server, and what mechanism can be 
used to have one server or the other service the connection? 


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Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Mike Walter]

>From a google search (even the names don't change often!) , and then more 
below...

--
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Thomas Kern
Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:51:07 -0800
If you do find a Sysprog or User's guide, I would like to get a copy. 
The last time I implemented the LARS/Purdue system, I had to plow 
through all of the source code to see how it was working. It has been 
a long time since then so I don't think I will remember any of the 
details of the inner workings. 

/Tom Kern

Shedlock, George wrote:

As I recall, the Lars system was comprised of 10-12 separate files on
tape. One (maybe more) of the files was a complete systems programming
and user guide. These were in a printed manual format (script?). Brain
cells are fuzzy this morning.

George Shedlock Jr
AEGON Information Technology
AEGON USA
502-560-3541

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Thomas Kern
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:48 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?

Not of the LARS/Purdue system. The copy Dave Jones supplied looks
complete. I don't remember there ever being any documentation except for
the source and the one end-user help file.

/Tom Kern

Shedlock, George wrote:

Tom,

The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones already 
supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? 

George Shedlock Jr
AEGON Information Technology
AEGON USA
502-560-3541

-Original Message-

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Kern 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?

There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available at 
different 
times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has already 
supplied that. 
The other was from SLAC and was meant for the High Energy Physics crowd. 
Both 
required mods to CP, and SLAC may have had mods to CMS as well. I am 
interested 
in BOTH.

/Tom Kern

Shedlock, George wrote:

Tom,

Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of the 
old 
VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several mods to both 
CP 
and CMS modules in order to function properly. I believe I have a copy 
hanging 
around . Somewhere. I'll look at home.

George Shedlock Jr
AEGON Information Technology
AEGON USA
502-560-3541

-Original Message-

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Kern 
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?

Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available from 
somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? 

/Tom Kern
--

Some years ago I send Dave Jones many 3490 tapes with years of 
VM Workshops, PC Tools, and VMSHARE logs.  I searched my primitive
index of those tapes, but the only pertinent LARS references were
to VMSHARE MEMO and NOTE files (see below).

Some of the old VMSHARE discussions of LARS can be found at:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=LARSBAT&ft=MEMO&args=KEYS#hit
and
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=LARSMODS&ft=NOTE&args=KEYS#hit

If Dave ever did supply both, perhaps he could be convinced to
to put it on his V/Soft web site for archeological reasons?  Dave?

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent 
the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely
distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it may
have been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look at
the copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out from.

Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download site?

/Tom Kern

Dave Wade wrote:
> Thom,
>  Is it freely distributable? Could it be put on a download site some 
where?
> 
> Dave Wade G4UGM
> Illegitimi Non Carborundum
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
>> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:19
>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
>>
>> I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch 
Subsystem.
>>
>> I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol Jobusch. (I
>> wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if I
>> could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
>> looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM still
>> does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so that i

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Shedlock, George]

If this is the same version of the code that I gave Tom, it originated from one 
of the old VM Workshop tapes...1988 or 1989...I believe.


George Shedlock Jr
AEGON Information Technology
AEGON USA
502-560-3541

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Thomas Kern
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:55 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely 
distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it may have 
been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look at the 
copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out from.

Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download site?

/Tom Kern

Dave Wade wrote:
> Thom,
>  Is it freely distributable? Could it be put on a download site some where?
>
> Dave Wade G4UGM
> Illegitimi Non Carborundum
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Thomas Kern
>> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:19
>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
>>
>> I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch Subsystem.
>>
>> I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol Jobusch.
>> (I wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if
>> I could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
>> looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM
>> still does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so
>> that is out (no CP/CMS mods at work). I will see if I can generate
>> some VMARC files and burn them to a CD/DVD for you. Send me your mailing 
>> address offline.
>>
>> /Tom Kern
>>
>> Lang, Louis wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> Dang I miss working on VM.
>>>
>>> Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete Jobusch
>>> on
>> the
>>> Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this
>>> code,
>> and if
>>> so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place
>>> it on
>> an
>>> FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives
>>> available to
>> me.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.
>>> Pretty awesome system.
>>>
>>> Thanks a million.
>>>
>>> Louis Lang
>>> ex-VM'er (for now)
>>>
>

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Lang, Louis]

When it was originally distributed, it was freely distributable since it
was funded by public monies.  We never did get money for it after the
fact.

Louis

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Wade
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

Tom,

Thanks for that, if it is ok I am sure I can find a site to store it on.
I
asked about restrictions because some of this old stuff came with "odd"
distribution restrictions, some of which might be hard to satisfy these
days...

Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum


> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:55
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
> 
> I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely
> distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it
may
> have been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look
at
> the copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out
from.
> 
> Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download
site?
> 
> /Tom Kern
> 
> Dave Wade wrote:
> > Thom,
> >  Is it freely distributable? Could it be put on a download site some
> where?
> >
> > Dave Wade G4UGM
> > Illegitimi Non Carborundum
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> >> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:19
> >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
> >>
> >> I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch
> Subsystem.
> >>
> >> I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol
Jobusch. (I
> >> wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if I
> >> could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
> >> looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM
still
> >> does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so that
is
> out
> >> (no CP/CMS mods at work). I will see if I can generate some VMARC
files
> >> and burn them to a CD/DVD for you. Send me your mailing address
> offline.
> >>
> >> /Tom Kern
> >>
> >> Lang, Louis wrote:
> >>> Hello All,
> >>> Dang I miss working on VM.
> >>>
> >>> Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete
Jobusch
> on
> >> the
> >>> Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this
code,
> >> and if
> >>> so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place
it
> on
> >> an
> >>> FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives
available
> to
> >> me.
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.
Pretty
> >>> awesome system.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a million.
> >>>
> >>> Louis Lang
> >>> ex-VM'er (for now)
> >>>
> >

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Dave Wade]

Tom,

Thanks for that, if it is ok I am sure I can find a site to store it on. I
asked about restrictions because some of this old stuff came with "odd"
distribution restrictions, some of which might be hard to satisfy these
days...

Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum


> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:55
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
> 
> I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely
> distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it may
> have been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look at
> the copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out from.
> 
> Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download site?
> 
> /Tom Kern
> 
> Dave Wade wrote:
> > Thom,
> >  Is it freely distributable? Could it be put on a download site some
> where?
> >
> > Dave Wade G4UGM
> > Illegitimi Non Carborundum
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> >> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:19
> >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
> >>
> >> I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch
> Subsystem.
> >>
> >> I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol Jobusch. (I
> >> wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if I
> >> could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
> >> looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM still
> >> does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so that is
> out
> >> (no CP/CMS mods at work). I will see if I can generate some VMARC files
> >> and burn them to a CD/DVD for you. Send me your mailing address
> offline.
> >>
> >> /Tom Kern
> >>
> >> Lang, Louis wrote:
> >>> Hello All,
> >>> Dang I miss working on VM.
> >>>
> >>> Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete Jobusch
> on
> >> the
> >>> Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this code,
> >> and if
> >>> so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place it
> on
> >> an
> >>> FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives available
> to
> >> me.
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.  Pretty
> >>> awesome system.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a million.
> >>>
> >>> Louis Lang
> >>> ex-VM'er (for now)
> >>>
> >

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Thomas Kern]

I haven't looked at the copyright statements, but it seemed freely
distributable when I first got a copy. I don't know for sure, but it may
have been on a Waterloo Mods tape for a couple of years. I will look at
the copyright, but I do not have a server that it can be served out from.

Would anyone like to volunteer to host these files on their download site?

/Tom Kern

Dave Wade wrote:
> Thom,
>  Is it freely distributable? Could it be put on a download site some where?
> 
> Dave Wade G4UGM
> Illegitimi Non Carborundum
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
>> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:19
>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
>>
>> I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch Subsystem.
>>
>> I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol Jobusch. (I
>> wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if I
>> could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
>> looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM still
>> does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so that is out
>> (no CP/CMS mods at work). I will see if I can generate some VMARC files
>> and burn them to a CD/DVD for you. Send me your mailing address offline.
>>
>> /Tom Kern
>>
>> Lang, Louis wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> Dang I miss working on VM.
>>>
>>> Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete Jobusch on
>> the
>>> Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this code,
>> and if
>>> so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place it on
>> an
>>> FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives available to
>> me.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.  Pretty
>>> awesome system.
>>>
>>> Thanks a million.
>>>
>>> Louis Lang
>>> ex-VM'er (for now)
>>>
> 

Re: SSLSERV

[David Boyes]

One per TCPIP stack. You need to use some kind of connection distribution
outside the VM stack to manage distributing connections to multiple stacks
(eg, LVS or a outboard load balancer with connection persistence
capabilities). 


On 11/18/08 1:06 PM, "Suleiman Shahin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> In the "light" of the restriction of 128  concurrent secured sessions on a
> system, can one (I) utilise more than one SSL server, and what mechanism can
> be used to have one server or the other service the connection? 

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Dave Wade]

Thom,
 Is it freely distributable? Could it be put on a download site some where?

Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum


> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> Sent: 18 November 2008 18:19
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Purdue Univ Batch System
> 
> I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch Subsystem.
> 
> I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol Jobusch. (I
> wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if I
> could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
> looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM still
> does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so that is out
> (no CP/CMS mods at work). I will see if I can generate some VMARC files
> and burn them to a CD/DVD for you. Send me your mailing address offline.
> 
> /Tom Kern
> 
> Lang, Louis wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > Dang I miss working on VM.
> >
> > Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete Jobusch on
> the
> > Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this code,
> and if
> > so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place it on
> an
> > FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives available to
> me.
> > :)
> >
> > At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.  Pretty
> > awesome system.
> >
> > Thanks a million.
> >
> > Louis Lang
> > ex-VM'er (for now)
> >

Re: Purdue Univ Batch System

[Thomas Kern]

I have the source and documentation for the LARS Purdue Batch Subsystem.

I got my first look at it when I worked with Pete and Carol Jobusch. (I
wonder if they are still around and watching). I wanted to see if I
could get it working on VM/370 on Hercules and on z/VM 5.3. I was
looking to replace the CP mods with modern z/VM commands but z/VM still
does not provide all of the features that those mods did, so that is out
(no CP/CMS mods at work). I will see if I can generate some VMARC files
and burn them to a CD/DVD for you. Send me your mailing address offline.

/Tom Kern

Lang, Louis wrote:
> Hello All,
> Dang I miss working on VM.  
> 
> Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete Jobusch on the
> Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this code, and if
> so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place it on an
> FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives available to me.
> :)   
> 
> At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.  Pretty
> awesome system.
> 
> Thanks a million.
> 
> Louis Lang
> ex-VM'er (for now)
> 

Re: SSLSERV

[Suleiman Shahin]

Now I see light -:) Thanks.

Suleiman Shahin





> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:13:31 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: SSLSERV
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> One SSLSERV per stack, but you can have multiple stacks each with their
> own IP address. When I get maintenance for TCPIP, it goes on a TCPTEST
> server with its own SSLTEST server, different IP address but I can get
> to the same system.
> 
> /Tom Kern
> 
> Suleiman Shahin wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > In the "light" of the restriction of 128  concurrent secured sessions on
> > a system, can one (I) utilise more than one SSL server, and what
> > mechanism can be used to have one server or the other service the
> > connection?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Suleiman Shahin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger
> > themepack now. Download now.
> > 

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Re: SSLSERV

[Thomas Kern]

One SSLSERV per stack, but you can have multiple stacks each with their
own IP address. When I get maintenance for TCPIP, it goes on a TCPTEST
server with its own SSLTEST server, different IP address but I can get
to the same system.

/Tom Kern

Suleiman Shahin wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> In the "light" of the restriction of 128  concurrent secured sessions on
> a system, can one (I) utilise more than one SSL server, and what
> mechanism can be used to have one server or the other service the
> connection?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Suleiman Shahin
> 
> 
> 
> Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger
> themepack now. Download now.
> 

SSLSERV

[Suleiman Shahin]

Greetings,

In the "light" of the restriction of 128  concurrent secured sessions on a 
system, can one (I) utilise more than one SSL server, and what mechanism can be 
used to have one server or the other service the connection? 

Thanks.

Suleiman Shahin


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Re: z/VM processor mode

[Quay, Jonathan (IHG)]

Two CP's, no IFLs.  The CMS virtual machines worked fine.  It wasn't
until IPLing the TPF guests that we discovered the issue.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bruce Hayden
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:48 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM processor mode

z/VM 5.3 will IPL in a "z/VM mode" LPAR on a z10, but it will only use
1 type of the CPUs.  In my experience I had both CPs and IFLs defined
to the partition, but 5.3 would only use the CPs.  It could see that
the IFLs were there, but they could not be varied online.  What kind
of CPUs were defined to your z/VM mode LPAR?  Maybe it only had IFLs?
But the real answer is to not use z/VM mode unless you're on 5.4.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We moved a z/VM 5.3 703 system from a z/990 to a z/10.  IPLed
> successfully.  When we attempted to IPL our TPF 4.1 guests, they would
> go through rollcall and then take an "HCP1455E CPU XX is not started
> because it is in check-stop state."  It turns out that the z/OS
sysprog
> who set up the LPAR had chosen "Z/VM" as the processor mode without
> realizing exactly what that meant.
>



-- 
Bruce Hayden
Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support
IBM, Endicott, NY

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Bob Bates]

Here's a straw to grasp at: 

Local mod that allowed SCREEN INREDISP UPPER

?? 


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-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ray Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:22 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

This is not the case. I am in Term Mode VM.

Ray

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

My money's on Bill Scully's suggestion, below.  Easily overlooked in the
stream of replies (and some replies seem to be coming out-of-order
today).
We all get used to what we've been running for ages.

Perhaps Ray is running with a different PROFILE EXEC, or without common
change to SYSPROF EXEC that existed before, one that included:
CP TERMINAL MODE VM

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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"Scully, William P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Alan, doesn't the setting of CP TERM MODE have an effect on commands?
In TERM MODE CP everything is uppercase.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:37 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to
uppercase
when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert
to

> uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott






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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Jack Woehr]

Ray Waters wrote:

This is not the case. I am in Term Mode VM.
  

How many lowercase EBCDIC characters can dance on the head of a pin?

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Re: z/VM processor mode

[Bruce Hayden]

z/VM 5.3 will IPL in a "z/VM mode" LPAR on a z10, but it will only use
1 type of the CPUs.  In my experience I had both CPs and IFLs defined
to the partition, but 5.3 would only use the CPs.  It could see that
the IFLs were there, but they could not be varied online.  What kind
of CPUs were defined to your z/VM mode LPAR?  Maybe it only had IFLs?
But the real answer is to not use z/VM mode unless you're on 5.4.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We moved a z/VM 5.3 703 system from a z/990 to a z/10.  IPLed
> successfully.  When we attempted to IPL our TPF 4.1 guests, they would
> go through rollcall and then take an "HCP1455E CPU XX is not started
> because it is in check-stop state."  It turns out that the z/OS sysprog
> who set up the LPAR had chosen "Z/VM" as the processor mode without
> realizing exactly what that meant.
>



-- 
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Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support
IBM, Endicott, NY

Re: Guest LAN definition for z/OS guest

[Bruce Hayden]

Doesn't it depend on which type of guest LAN you defined?  I.e., TYPE
HIPERS or TYPE QDIO?  The default is a hipersockets type.  (I have no
z/OS experience!)

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Neale Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For a guest LAN what is the device type used in the DEVICE statement for a
> z/OS guest? MPCOSA or MPCIPA (or something else)?
>



-- 
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Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support
IBM, Endicott, NY

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Ray Waters]

This is not the case. I am in Term Mode VM.

Ray

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
Walter
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

My money's on Bill Scully's suggestion, below.  Easily overlooked in the
stream of replies (and some replies seem to be coming out-of-order today).
We all get used to what we've been running for ages.

Perhaps Ray is running with a different PROFILE EXEC, or without common
change to SYSPROF EXEC that existed before, one that included:
CP TERMINAL MODE VM

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Alan, doesn't the setting of CP TERM MODE have an effect on commands?
In TERM MODE CP everything is uppercase.

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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to
uppercase
when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert
to

> uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott






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Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

[Mark Post]

>>> On 11/17/2008 at  7:53 PM, Raymond Noal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Mark,
> 
> What do you recommend someone use to download files from the Novell site for 
> zSeries Linux files? I've tried MS Internet Explorer and Mozilla/FireFox and 
> neither of them works.

I try to use wget as much as possible, whether from a Linux or Windows system.  
Failing that, I use Firefox.  The version on my SLED 10 SP2 system is 2.0.0.17.


Mark Post

z/VM processor mode

[Quay, Jonathan (IHG)]

We moved a z/VM 5.3 703 system from a z/990 to a z/10.  IPLed
successfully.  When we attempted to IPL our TPF 4.1 guests, they would
go through rollcall and then take an "HCP1455E CPU XX is not started
because it is in check-stop state."  It turns out that the z/OS sysprog
who set up the LPAR had chosen "Z/VM" as the processor mode without
realizing exactly what that meant.  

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Mike Walter]

My money's on Bill Scully's suggestion, below.  Easily overlooked in the 
stream of replies (and some replies seem to be coming out-of-order today).
We all get used to what we've been running for ages.

Perhaps Ray is running with a different PROFILE EXEC, or without common 
change to SYSPROF EXEC that existed before, one that included: 
CP TERMINAL MODE VM

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Alan, doesn't the setting of CP TERM MODE have an effect on commands?
In TERM MODE CP everything is uppercase.

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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to
uppercase 
when 
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert
to 

> uppercase.
> 
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that 
illustrates your problem.

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Guest LAN definition for z/OS guest

[Neale Ferguson]

For a guest LAN what is the device type used in the DEVICE statement for a
z/OS guest? MPCOSA or MPCIPA (or something else)?

question on changing IP and routes

[Larry Macioce]

We have our z box on public addresses hence VM and all virtual Linux 
servers are also. We have finally stared a push to move them onto 10 
addresses. We have a layer 3 vswitch defined. The network group has given
 
me test ip addresses, subnet mask, and gateway addreses.  
My problem is I can make the change to a given machine with ifconfig and 

then view it through VM and see it has changed. But when I try to change 

the routing info(using route add/del) I get "network unreachable".
we can ping the 10 gateway from VM  and from the linux machine(before the
 
change).
When I make the ip change it takes a few minutes and then on VM it is 
reported that the machine is there.
Is it possible that changing this info on virtualized and this
(ifconfig/route) would only work on grey boxes with individual real nic 

cards?
Or what have I missed??
thanks
Mace

Purdue Univ Batch System

[Lang, Louis]

Hello All,
Dang I miss working on VM.  

Back in the good ol' days, I worked with Tom Wilson and Pete Jobusch on t
he
Purdue Batch System.  I was wondering if someone still has this code, and
 if
so, would they be willing to ship me a copy on CD or DVD (or place it on 
an
FTP site?)  Sorry, I don't have 3420 or 3480/90 tape drives available to 
me.
:)   

At least I can still play with a VM system thanks to Hercules.  Pretty
awesome system.

Thanks a million.

Louis Lang
ex-VM'er (for now)

Re: z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure

[Marcy Cortes]

Absolutely.   For quite a few months now.  

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Buettner, Wolfgang
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:24 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure


Is there somebody having some experiences with that combination already?
 
Regards,
Wolfgang Buettner


Software AG - Sitz/Registered office: Uhlandstraße 12, 64297 Darmstadt, 
Germany, - Registergericht/Commercial register: Darmstadt HRB 1562 - Vorstand/ 
Management Board: Karl-Heinz Streibich (Vorsitzender/Chairman), David 
Broadbent, Mark Edwards, Holger Friedrich, Dr. Peter Kürpick, Arnd Zinnhardt; - 
Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Frank F. Beelitz 
- http://www.softwareag.com  

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Richard Troth]

What a mess!  Very confusing.  For clarification, Ray is asking (and
please confirm, Ray) about the ECHOING of certain commands.  UCENG (or
other SET LANG) would apply to RESPONSES from commands.  Vewy
diffewent.


In my experience, commands echoed by CMS are echoed as entered and
have been for a very long time.  (VM/SP R1?  certainly R5)  But
commands echoed by CP are echoed in upper case to this day (5.4).


Anyway ... we're talking about command redisplay, not input case
sensitivity nor command output (SET LANG).


Just trying to get everyone on the same scree... er, uh, the same
page.  Are we?


-- Rick;   <><





On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase
> when the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert
> to uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?
>
>
>
> Ray Waters
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Ray Waters]

The LANG does not make a difference:

q lang
AMENG
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:29:05
ind
AVGPROC-050% 03
XSTORE-00/SEC MIGRATE-/SEC
MDC READS-001384/SEC WRITES-74/SEC HIT RATIO-096%
PAGING-3/SEC STEAL-000%
Q0-4(0)   DORMANT-00025
Q1-8(0)   E1-0(0)
Q2-4(0) EXPAN-002 E2-0(0)
Q3-00024(0) EXPAN-002 E3-0(0)
PROC -050% CP   PROC 0001-050% CP
PROC 0002-050% CP
LIMITED-0
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:29:08

set lang uceng
READY; T=0.01/0.01 11:29:21
q lang
UCENG
READY; T=0.01/0.01 11:29:24
ind
AVGPROC-050% 03
XSTORE-00/SEC MIGRATE-/SEC
MDC READS-001321/SEC WRITES-72/SEC HIT RATIO-095%
PAGING-4/SEC STEAL-000%
Q0-4(0)   DORMANT-00026
Q1-8(0)   E1-0(0)
Q2-4(0) EXPAN-002 E2-0(0)
Q3-00024(0) EXPAN-002 E3-0(0)
PROC -051% CP   PROC 0001-050% CP
PROC 0002-050% CP
LIMITED-0
READY; T=0.01/0.01 11:29:31

Ray

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
Walter
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:21 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case


As someone suggested earlier, perhaps on 5.2 you were running with 'CP SET 
LANGuage UCENG'?  That's UpperCase English.
Perhaps when you upgraded to z/VM 5.4 you chose AMENG (American English) 
instead?  It's an easy thing to change at install time, and an easy one to test 
(if you installed the NSSes) by entering: SET LANG UCENG

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.


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There is NO problem. Every thing works as before. I just noticed a difference 
between our prior VM systems and 5.4.

Our prior systems would convert anything typed in CMS to upper case once the 
enter key was pressed. Now with 5.4 the translation does not occur.

With 5.4:
q alloc = q alloc
q t = q t
ind = ind

With 5.2:
q alloc = Q ALLOC
q t = Q T
ind = IND

Not sure what changed. Maybe during the install I answered something different 
with 5.4 compared to prior installs. Is there a SET command to change this?

Ray

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Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:37 AM
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase
when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert to

> uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: CP mod to HCPBIS

[Shimon Lebowitz]

THANK YOU!! I was assuming that SIE was taking the REAL cpuid
of the hardware, but I just tested your suggestion that I 
modify the virtual CPUID in the VMDBK, and it solves the
problem.
Thank you,
Shimon

 Original message 
>Date:   Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:04:41 -0500
>From:   Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject:   Re: CP mod to HCPBIS  
>To:   IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>
>On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 04:45 EST, Shimon Lebowitz 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>
>> Thank you Alan for the information, but it is still not
totally clear to 
>me 
>> what is happening. 
>> It vaguely occurred to me that perhaps somehow SIE was 
doing it all 
>> now (as I wrote "bypass the simulation") at least when no 
CPUID had 
>> been set by the user, so I *did* do a CP SET CPUID to a 
different serial 
>
>> number, and it still did NOT pass control to HCPBIS. 
>> So, how can I control the value if I do not get control 
passed to me? 
>> SIE just saved the CPUID (including the user's SET CPUID 
serial) in 
>> user storage, and I got no chance to alter it. (For 
reasons I won't go
>> into now, the part I have been modifying is the model 
number).
>> Is there perhaps some way to "degrade" my CP back to 
software 
>> simulation of that particular instruction? 
>
>Rather than focusing on interception, focus instead on 
changing the CPU ID 
>assigned to the virtual machine.  Then you don't care about 
simulation vs. 
>SIE.
>
>The field VMDCPUID contains the guest CPU ID.  SET CPUID 
just changes the 
>serial number within it; you need to change the model.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM Endicott

z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure

[Buettner, Wolfgang]

Is there somebody having some experiences with that combination already?
 
Regards,
Wolfgang Buettner
 
Software AG - Sitz/Registered office: Uhlandstra?e 12, 64297 Darmstadt, 
Germany, - Registergericht/Commercial register: Darmstadt HRB 1562 - Vorstand/ 
Management Board: Karl-Heinz Streibich (Vorsitzender/Chairman), David 
Broadbent, Mark Edwards, Holger Friedrich, Dr. Peter Kurpick, Arnd Zinnhardt; - 
Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Frank F. Beelitz 
- http://www.softwareag.com

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Mike Walter]

As someone suggested earlier, perhaps on 5.2 you were running with 'CP SET 
LANGuage UCENG'?  That's UpperCase English.
Perhaps when you upgraded to z/VM 5.4 you chose AMENG (American English) 
instead?  It's an easy thing to change at install time, and an easy one to 
test (if you installed the NSSes) by entering: SET LANG UCENG

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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There is NO problem. Every thing works as before. I just noticed a 
difference between our prior VM systems and 5.4.

Our prior systems would convert anything typed in CMS to upper case once 
the enter key was pressed. Now with 5.4 the translation does not occur.

With 5.4:
q alloc = q alloc
q t = q t
ind = ind

With 5.2:
q alloc = Q ALLOC
q t = Q T
ind = IND

Not sure what changed. Maybe during the install I answered something 
different with 5.4 compared to prior installs. Is there a SET command to 
change this?

Ray

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:37 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase
when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert to

> uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Scully, William P]

Alan, doesn't the setting of CP TERM MODE have an effect on commands?
In TERM MODE CP everything is uppercase.

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Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:37 AM
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to
uppercase 
when 
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert
to 

> uppercase.
> 
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that 
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Marcy Cortes]

Was your default language set to UCENG before? 
(Q LANG)


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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:09 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

There is NO problem. Every thing works as before. I just noticed a
difference between our prior VM systems and 5.4.

Our prior systems would convert anything typed in CMS to upper case once
the enter key was pressed. Now with 5.4 the translation does not occur.

With 5.4:
q alloc = q alloc
q t = q t
ind = ind

With 5.2:
q alloc = Q ALLOC
q t = Q T
ind = IND

Not sure what changed. Maybe during the install I answered something
different with 5.4 compared to prior installs. Is there a SET command to
change this?

Ray

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Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:37 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to 
> uppercase
when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert 
> to

> uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Ray Waters]

There is NO problem. Every thing works as before. I just noticed a difference 
between our prior VM systems and 5.4.

Our prior systems would convert anything typed in CMS to upper case once the 
enter key was pressed. Now with 5.4 the translation does not occur.

With 5.4:
q alloc = q alloc
q t = q t
ind = ind

With 5.2:
q alloc = Q ALLOC
q t = Q T
ind = IND

Not sure what changed. Maybe during the install I answered something different 
with 5.4 compared to prior installs. Is there a SET command to change this?

Ray

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan 
Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:37 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase
when
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert to

> uppercase.
>
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Neale Ferguson]

Isn't it to do with the SET LANG option? One of the options is UCAMENG or
something like that? This one is upper case only.

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:46 EST, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> 
> > What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
> > illustrates your problem.
> 
> I did notice that the logon command is echoed in mixed case by CP on
> z/VM 5.3. It seems to have changed between z/VM 3.1 and z/VM 5.3 (not
> tried to narrow it down further).

That's the result of the support for password phrases.  They are mixed 
case with blanks and special characters allowed.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Huegel, Thomas]

I run into the exact opposite problem.. ie when entering a pipe on the terminal 
nothing gets translated to upper case, so one must remember that a 'FIND' or 
'LOCATE' must be typed in upper case (assuming upper is what one is looking 
for).

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Mike,



I no longer have my 5.2 system up.



Our 5.4 after pressing enter:

q t

TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08

CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07



In 5.2 it would be:

Q T

TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08

CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07



Ray




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Ray,

I'm confused. To my knowledge, nothing changed between 5.2 and 5.4 with the way 
CMS commands are handled. Do you have an example?

Thanks!
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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Wandschneider, Scott]

I don't yet have a 5.4 system, but here is a sample from a 2.3, 3.1, 4.4, 5.2, 
and 5.3 system.

q cplevel  
VM/ESA Version 2 Release 3.0, service level 0101   
Generated at 03/11/02 16:44:14 EST 
IPL at 08/17/03 03:40:50 EST   
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:50:06
q t
TIME IS 10:50:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08  
CONNECT= 00:00:10 VIRTCPU= 000:00.03 TOTCPU= 000:00.06 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:50:07

q cplevel   
z/VM Version 3 Release 1.0, service level 0401 (32-bit) 
Generated at 01/15/04 18:31:55 EST  
IPL at 09/27/06 13:16:57 EST
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:47:26  
q t 
TIME IS 10:47:27 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08   
CONNECT= 00:00:07 VIRTCPU= 000:00.03 TOTCPU= 000:00.05  
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:47:27  

q cplevel   
z/VM Version 4 Release 4.0, service level 0501 (64-bit) 
Generated at 03/31/06 16:54:42 EST  
IPL at 01/06/08 03:22:00 EST
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:52:37  
q t 
TIME IS 10:52:38 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08   
CONNECT= 00:00:09 VIRTCPU= 000:00.02 TOTCPU= 000:00.06  
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:52:38  

q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0602 (64-bit)  
Generated at 07/17/08 09:30:41 CST   
IPL at 08/24/08 13:53:31 CST 
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:53:06  
q t  
TIME IS 09:53:07 CST TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:00:08 VIRTCPU= 000:00.04 TOTCPU= 000:00.12   
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:53:07  

q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 3.0, service level 0701 (64-bit)  
Generated at 05/29/2007 22:21:12 EST 
IPL at 09/20/2008 23:51:56 EST   
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:47:55  
q t  
TIME IS 10:47:59 EST TUESDAY 11/18/2008  
CONNECT= 00:44:29 VIRTCPU= 000:00.08 TOTCPU= 000:00.15   
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:47:59   


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Nor on our z/VM 5.1 and z/VM 5.4 systems (note the lower-case cp q
cplevel):
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q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 1.0, service level 0501 (64-bit) Generated at 09/04/08 
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cp q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 0801 (64-bit) Generated at 08/04/08 
16:27:40 CST IPL at 11/02/08 07:23:23 CST
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Even if you had a "Q EXEC", the input redisplay would not be uppercased. 
Are you running some shell exec that accepts commands, redisplays them
(uppercased) and then executes them?

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I don't see this effect on 5.2.

LOGON AT 10:37:23 CDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
z/VM V5.2.02008-08-20 15:41
Ready; T=0.12/0.18 10:37:23
q t
TIME IS 10:37:26 CDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:00:03 VIRTCPU= 000:00.26 TOTCPU= 000:00.60 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 
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Ray Waters wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> I no longer have my 5.2 system up.
> 
> 
> 
> Our 5.4 after pressing enter:
> 
> q t
> 
> TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08
> 
> CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02
> 
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07
> 
> 
> 
> In 5.2 it would be:
> 
> Q T
> 
> TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08
> 
> CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02
> 
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07
> 
> 
> 
> Ray

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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

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Nor on our z/VM 5.1 and z/VM 5.4 systems (note the lower-case cp q 
cplevel):
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q cplevel 
z/VM Version 5 Release 1.0, service level 0501 (64-bit) 
Generated at 09/04/08 16:26:13 CST 
IPL at 11/16/08 20:54:17 CST 

cp q cplevel 
z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 0801 (64-bit) 
Generated at 08/04/08 16:27:40 CST 
IPL at 11/02/08 07:23:23 CST 
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Even if you had a "Q EXEC", the input redisplay would not be uppercased. 
Are you running some shell exec that accepts commands, redisplays them 
(uppercased) and then executes them?

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I don't see this effect on 5.2.

LOGON AT 10:37:23 CDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
z/VM V5.2.02008-08-20 15:41
Ready; T=0.12/0.18 10:37:23
q t
TIME IS 10:37:26 CDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:00:03 VIRTCPU= 000:00.26 TOTCPU= 000:00.60
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:37:26


Ray Waters wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> I no longer have my 5.2 system up.
> 
> 
> 
> Our 5.4 after pressing enter:
> 
> q t 
> 
> TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08 
> 
> CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02 
> 
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07 
> 
> 
> 
> In 5.2 it would be:
> 
> Q T 
> 
> TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08 
> 
> CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02 
> 
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07 
> 
> 
> 
> Ray

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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Mark Pace]

This from 5.2
q t
TIME IS 11:46:12 EDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:11:47 VIRTCPU= 000:00.03 TOTCPU= 000:00.05
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:46:12
q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0601 (64-bit)
Generated at 08/02/06 11:10:50 EDT
IPL at 09/15/08 08:34:34 EDT
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:46:20

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> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
> > illustrates your problem.
>
> I did notice that the logon command is echoed in mixed case by CP on
> z/VM 5.3. It seems to have changed between z/VM 3.1 and z/VM 5.3 (not
> tried to narrow it down further).
>
> Rob
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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Brian France]

FYI -
  My 5.2 and 5.4 2nd level are the same. The q t is NOT converted to 
upper case. Nor are other commands like q alloc page or q xst.



At 10:31 AM 11/18/2008, Ray Waters wrote:

Mike,

I no longer have my 5.2 system up.

Our 5.4 after pressing enter:
q t
TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07

In 5.2 it would be:
Q T
TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07

Ray


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Ray,

I'm confused. To my knowledge, nothing changed between 5.2 and 5.4 
with the way CMS commands are handled. Do you have an example?


Thanks!
Mike Donovan


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With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to 
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Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Rob van der Heij]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that
> illustrates your problem.

I did notice that the logon command is echoed in mixed case by CP on
z/VM 5.3. It seems to have changed between z/VM 3.1 and z/VM 5.3 (not
tried to narrow it down further).

Rob

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Rich Smrcina]

I don't see this effect on 5.2.

LOGON AT 10:37:23 CDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
z/VM V5.2.02008-08-20 15:41
Ready; T=0.12/0.18 10:37:23
q t
TIME IS 10:37:26 CDT TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:00:03 VIRTCPU= 000:00.26 TOTCPU= 000:00.60
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:37:26


Ray Waters wrote:

Mike,

 


I no longer have my 5.2 system up.

 


Our 5.4 after pressing enter:

q t

TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08  

CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02 

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07

 


In 5.2 it would be:

Q T

TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08  

CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02 

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07

 


Ray


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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 10:09 EST, Ray Waters 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase 
when 
> the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert to 

> uppercase.
> 
> Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

What command is causing you a problem?  Please post a snippet that 
illustrates your problem.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Ray Waters]

Mike,

I no longer have my 5.2 system up.

Our 5.4 after pressing enter:
q t
TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07

In 5.2 it would be:
Q T
TIME IS 10:29:07 EST TUESDAY 11/18/08
CONNECT= 00:04:20 VIRTCPU= 000:00.01 TOTCPU= 000:00.02
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:29:07

Ray


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Ray,

I'm confused. To my knowledge, nothing changed between 5.2 and 5.4 with the way 
CMS commands are handled. Do you have an example?

Thanks!
Mike Donovan


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With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase when 
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Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

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The Novell site can be very particular.  I, too, use Mozilla / Firefox 3
successfully, but only when the Novell site deems me worthy.


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Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

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Ray,

I'm confused.  To my knowledge, nothing changed between 5.2 and 5.4 with
the way CMS commands are handled.  Do you have an example?

Thanks!
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Re: CP mod to HCPBIS

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On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 04:45 EST, Shimon Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Thank you Alan for the information, but it is still not totally clear to 
me 
> what is happening. 
> It vaguely occurred to me that perhaps somehow SIE was doing it all 
> now (as I wrote "bypass the simulation") at least when no CPUID had 
> been set by the user, so I *did* do a CP SET CPUID to a different serial 

> number, and it still did NOT pass control to HCPBIS. 
> So, how can I control the value if I do not get control passed to me? 
> SIE just saved the CPUID (including the user's SET CPUID serial) in 
> user storage, and I got no chance to alter it. (For reasons I won't go
> into now, the part I have been modifying is the model number).
> Is there perhaps some way to "degrade" my CP back to software 
> simulation of that particular instruction? 

Rather than focusing on interception, focus instead on changing the CPU ID 
assigned to the virtual machine.  Then you don't care about simulation vs. 
SIE.

The field VMDCPUID contains the guest CPU ID.  SET CPUID just changes the 
serial number within it; you need to change the model.

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Re: 3590: problems reading

[Mike Hammock]

Yes, I had suggested that to the customer and it would be possible.   It
would require some work (HCD/IODF, etc.) to make the volumes
available/known to the zOS system and then to set up and run the DFDss dump
jobs.   They are trying to avoid this extra effort  since they already have
the DDR dumps automated and ready to go.  (I also get the impression that
they are just more "comfortable" with DDR, which I certainly understand.)

Mike

C. M. (Mike) Hammock
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zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
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And, as z/OS can use the tapes, what about using an MVS utility to take a
physical backup of the z/VM disks.

2008/11/18 Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Normally yes, but... Their FLEX system will die tomorrow (or perhaps
  the next day)  but they are not getting a replacement System z for
  another
  month or so.   (Yes, they will be out of action for a while lonnngg
  story...).  So, by the time the z10 comes in, the FLEX system will be
  dead
  and cold... Not the best planning, for sure, but we just got involved
  with
  this user very recently and they apparently did not realize that their
  FLEX
  license was about to expire.  Plus, they have some 'internal issues' that
  are slowing the process of getting a new system.
  They are currently backing up to SCSI attached 3490, but that obviously
  takes a lot more time and "cartridge feeding" than a 3590 would,
  something
  they hoped to avoid with the 3590.
  Mike
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  Mike, would it be possibe to network connect the two systems, and avoid
  using tape at all?

  Mike Hammock wrote:
  > Thanks Alan, we can certainly give that a try..  But... I assumed
  (there
  is
  > that problem word) that if we mounted the tape cartridge, did a "TAPE
  REW"
  > then a "TAPE DUMP * * A" that it would wipe out any standard label on
  the
  > cartridge... that it would become a no-label tape no matter what it was
  > before...
  > As far as I know (!), he has no tape management software or anything
  else
  > that would be monitoring or looking for standard labels.
  > I will mention the SL issue to him though, just in case
  > Thanks
  > Mike
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Re: Alt DRCT area

[Kris Buelens]

Note: you need a write link to a FULLPACK minidisk that covers the DRCT
area.

2008/11/18 Rich Greenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:40:01AM -0500,Aisik Chang Wrote:
>
> } I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this alternate
> } DRCT avaialble ?
> } Do I need to IPL or  Is there way to dynamically make new DRCT area
>  active
> } ?
>
> Just change the DIRECT statement in the source directory to point to the
> new volume, get a write link  to it if not already, and run DIRECTXA.
> Part of the processing that DIRECTXA does is to do a DIAGNOSE that tells
> CP that the directory is now on that volume.
>
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> 1353
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> CP-67
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Re: 3590: problems reading

[Kris Buelens]

And, as z/OS can use the tapes, what about using an MVS utility to take a
physical backup of the z/VM disks.

2008/11/18 Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Normally yes, but... Their FLEX system will die tomorrow (or perhaps
> the next day)  but they are not getting a replacement System z for another
> month or so.   (Yes, they will be out of action for a while lonnngg
> story...).  So, by the time the z10 comes in, the FLEX system will be dead
> and cold... Not the best planning, for sure, but we just got involved with
> this user very recently and they apparently did not realize that their FLEX
> license was about to expire.  Plus, they have some 'internal issues' that
> are slowing the process of getting a new system.
> They are currently backing up to SCSI attached 3490, but that obviously
> takes a lot more time and "cartridge feeding" than a 3590 would, something
> they hoped to avoid with the 3590.
> Mike
> C. M. (Mike) Hammock
> Sr. Technical Support
> zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
> (404) 643-3258
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Mike, would it be possibe to network connect the two systems, and avoid
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> Mike Hammock wrote:
> > Thanks Alan, we can certainly give that a try..  But... I assumed (there
> is
> > that problem word) that if we mounted the tape cartridge, did a "TAPE
> REW"
> > then a "TAPE DUMP * * A" that it would wipe out any standard label on the
> > cartridge... that it would become a no-label tape no matter what it was
> > before...
> > As far as I know (!), he has no tape management software or anything else
> > that would be monitoring or looking for standard labels.
> > I will mention the SL issue to him though, just in case
> > Thanks
> > Mike
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> > (404) 643-3258
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> >> A zVM 5.3 user (not even one of our customers) is trying to use a 3590
> > to
> >> migrate from their current ( about to expire) FLEX-ES system to a system
> > z
> >> and is having problems.
> >
> >> From zVM he can (apparently) write to the tape and do all the control
> >> commands (rewind, unload, wtm, etc.).  But he cannot read anything that
> > was
> >> written by VM.  If he does a DDR DUMP, he gets an I/O error on the DDR
> >> RESTORE.  If he does a VMFLPC2  or TAPE DUMP, the corresponding LOAD
> > fails
> >> with a DMSP2C057E " Invalid Record Format".   My best guess is that the
> >> drive is writing in one mode (COMP/NOCOMP) and trying to read in the
> >> other... but
> >> - I think that when reading, the drive should detect the mode used to
> > write
> >> the tape and  handle it either way
> >> - We tried various combinations of  MODE COMP/NOCOMP to try to force it
> > to
> >> the right mode, with no apparent improvement.
> >> I don't believe he has tried a stand-alone DDR, but I'm not optimistic
> > that
> >> would be any better.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >
> > Has he used DDR, MOVEFILE, DITTO, PIPE, whatever to simply look at the
> > tape?  Perhaps it has a standard label on it, something easily handled by
> > z/OS.  If so, TAPE FSF to skip the label, then TAPE LOAD.
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Re: Alt DRCT area

[Rich Greenberg]

On: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:51:55AM -0500,Rich Greenberg Wrote:

} On: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:40:01AM -0500,Aisik Chang Wrote:
} 
} } I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this alternate
} } DRCT avaialble ?
} } Do I need to IPL or  Is there way to dynamically make new DRCT area  active
} } ?
} 
} Just change the DIRECT statement in the source directory to point to the
} new volume, get a write link  to it if not already, and run DIRECTXA.
} Part of the processing that DIRECTXA does is to do a DIAGNOSE that tells
} CP that the directory is now on that volume.

If you are using a directory manager such as DIRMAINT, VM/Secure or
VM/Direct, use the facilities of that program to change the DIRECT
statement.  And change thier link to point to the new volume.  Change
links by hand, write the directory, change links in the directory
program's directory entry so the next restart will pick up the correct
volume.

-- 
Rich Greenberg  N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com  + 1 239 543 1353
Eastern time.  N6LRT  I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val, Red, Shasta & Casey (RIP), Red & Zero, Siberians  Owner:Chinook-L
Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

[Ray Waters]

With 5.2, CMS (not xedit) anything entered in CMS converted to uppercase when 
the enter key was pressed. With 5.4, the characters no longer convert to 
uppercase.
Can this be changed via a command to CP or CMS?

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Re: Alt DRCT area

[Rich Greenberg]

On: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:40:01AM -0500,Aisik Chang Wrote:

} I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this alternate
} DRCT avaialble ?
} Do I need to IPL or  Is there way to dynamically make new DRCT area  active
} ?

Just change the DIRECT statement in the source directory to point to the
new volume, get a write link  to it if not already, and run DIRECTXA.
Part of the processing that DIRECTXA does is to do a DIAGNOSE that tells
CP that the directory is now on that volume.

-- 
Rich Greenberg  N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com  + 1 239 543 1353
Eastern time.  N6LRT  I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val, Red, Shasta & Casey (RIP), Red & Zero, Siberians  Owner:Chinook-L
Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

Alt DRCT area

[Aisik Chang]

GM, Listers,l

I defined DRCT area on one of CP owned pack, How do I make this alternate
DRCT avaialble ?
Do I need to IPL or  Is there way to dynamically make new DRCT area  active
?

Thanks for you info in advance,

Ann

Re: 3590: problems reading

[Mike Hammock]

Normally yes, but... Their FLEX system will die tomorrow (or perhaps
the next day)  but they are not getting a replacement System z for another
month or so.   (Yes, they will be out of action for a while lonnngg
story...).  So, by the time the z10 comes in, the FLEX system will be dead
and cold... Not the best planning, for sure, but we just got involved with
this user very recently and they apparently did not realize that their FLEX
license was about to expire.  Plus, they have some 'internal issues' that
are slowing the process of getting a new system.
They are currently backing up to SCSI attached 3490, but that obviously
takes a lot more time and "cartridge feeding" than a 3590 would, something
they hoped to avoid with the 3590.
Mike
C. M. (Mike) Hammock
Sr. Technical Support
zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
(404) 643-3258
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Mike, would it be possibe to network connect the two systems, and avoid
using tape at all?

Mike Hammock wrote:
> Thanks Alan, we can certainly give that a try..  But... I assumed (there
is
> that problem word) that if we mounted the tape cartridge, did a "TAPE
REW"
> then a "TAPE DUMP * * A" that it would wipe out any standard label on the
> cartridge... that it would become a no-label tape no matter what it was
> before...
> As far as I know (!), he has no tape management software or anything else
> that would be monitoring or looking for standard labels.
> I will mention the SL issue to him though, just in case
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> C. M. (Mike) Hammock
> Sr. Technical Support
> zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
> (404) 643-3258
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Monday, 11/17/2008 at 07:09 EST, Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> A zVM 5.3 user (not even one of our customers) is trying to use a 3590
> to
>> migrate from their current ( about to expire) FLEX-ES system to a system
> z
>> and is having problems.
>
>> From zVM he can (apparently) write to the tape and do all the control
>> commands (rewind, unload, wtm, etc.).  But he cannot read anything that
> was
>> written by VM.  If he does a DDR DUMP, he gets an I/O error on the DDR
>> RESTORE.  If he does a VMFLPC2  or TAPE DUMP, the corresponding LOAD
> fails
>> with a DMSP2C057E " Invalid Record Format".   My best guess is that the
>> drive is writing in one mode (COMP/NOCOMP) and trying to read in the
>> other... but
>> - I think that when reading, the drive should detect the mode used to
> write
>> the tape and  handle it either way
>> - We tried various combinations of  MODE COMP/NOCOMP to try to force it
> to
>> the right mode, with no apparent improvement.
>> I don't believe he has tried a stand-alone DDR, but I'm not optimistic
> that
>> would be any better.
>>
>> Any sugg

Re: 3590: problems reading

[Dave Jones]

Mike, would it be possibe to network connect the two systems, and avoid using 
tape at all?

Mike Hammock wrote:

Thanks Alan, we can certainly give that a try..  But... I assumed (there is
that problem word) that if we mounted the tape cartridge, did a "TAPE REW"
then a "TAPE DUMP * * A" that it would wipe out any standard label on the
cartridge... that it would become a no-label tape no matter what it was
before...
As far as I know (!), he has no tape management software or anything else
that would be monitoring or looking for standard labels.
I will mention the SL issue to him though, just in case
Thanks
Mike

C. M. (Mike) Hammock
Sr. Technical Support
zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
(404) 643-3258
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On Monday, 11/17/2008 at 07:09 EST, Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

A zVM 5.3 user (not even one of our customers) is trying to use a 3590

to

migrate from their current ( about to expire) FLEX-ES system to a system

z

and is having problems.



From zVM he can (apparently) write to the tape and do all the control
commands (rewind, unload, wtm, etc.).  But he cannot read anything that

was

written by VM.  If he does a DDR DUMP, he gets an I/O error on the DDR
RESTORE.  If he does a VMFLPC2  or TAPE DUMP, the corresponding LOAD

fails

with a DMSP2C057E " Invalid Record Format".   My best guess is that the
drive is writing in one mode (COMP/NOCOMP) and trying to read in the
other... but
- I think that when reading, the drive should detect the mode used to

write

the tape and  handle it either way
- We tried various combinations of  MODE COMP/NOCOMP to try to force it

to

the right mode, with no apparent improvement.
I don't believe he has tried a stand-alone DDR, but I'm not optimistic

that

would be any better.

Any suggestions?


Has he used DDR, MOVEFILE, DITTO, PIPE, whatever to simply look at the
tape?  Perhaps it has a standard label on it, something easily handled by
z/OS.  If so, TAPE FSF to skip the label, then TAPE LOAD.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



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Re: 3590: problems reading

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 11/18/2008 at 08:54 EST, Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Thanks Alan, we can certainly give that a try..  But... I assumed (there 
is
> that problem word) that if we mounted the tape cartridge, did a "TAPE 
REW"
> then a "TAPE DUMP * * A" that it would wipe out any standard label on 
the
> cartridge... that it would become a no-label tape no matter what it was
> before...

I missed that point.  Yes, that scenario will wipe out the label.  Since 
he's on 5.3, he should contact the Support Center.  You could diagnose 
this by crawling through all the RDC and SENSE data provided by the drive 
as well as tracing the I/O, but that will take a fair bit of time.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott