Re: where to find the real storage for a linux guest?

2009-08-17 Thread Kris Buelens
Use "CP IND USER userid" and look for RESIDENT, that's the number of pages
the given user has in real storage at that time.

2009/8/18 

> One of my Co-worker is interested in how much real storage WAS is used on
> z/VM. ?compare with z/OS
> We found on Perfsvm  FCX115
>
> Storage def. :1024MB
> Resident <2GB:   37680
> Resident >2GB:  219018
> Proj. WSET   :  256684
> Reserved pgs :   0
> Locked pages :   1
> XSTORE dedic.:   0MB
> XSTORE pages :5156
>
> Can I use Proj. WSET *4/1024 to answer the question?
> Should I add xstore pages?
>
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Re: SYSTEM CONFIG file question

2009-08-17 Thread Thomas Kern
I use gateway to differentiate between home and DRsite because I need
the nodename to be the same. I use CP QUERY GATEWAY to get the value. It
is a CP variable.

/Tom Kern

Gentry, Stephen wrote:
> Does anyone use the Gateway option on the System_Identifier  parameter
> in the SYSTEM  CONFIG  file?  I’ve tried using it and can’t get it do
> what I thought it would do.  System identifier is coded below (the cpuid
> has been replaces with x’s  but it is filled in correctly in the sys
> config file).
> 
> System_Identifier * xx  DRTEST   Gateway LLIC 
> 
> System_Identifier_Default ZVMV5R40  Gateway LLIC 
> 
> When I issue the CP  ID  command  I get: 
> 
> ITTS01   AT DRTEST   VIA *08/17/09 16:28:31 EDT  MONDAY
> 
> I expect to get:
> 
> ITTS01   AT LLIC   VIA  RSCS08/17/09 16:28:31 EDT  MONDAY
> 
> I do get the expected results when I code the information in the 
> SYSTEM  NETID  file on the  S  drive
> 
> Is my thinking correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve


Re: SYSTEM CONFIG file question

2009-08-17 Thread Kris Buelens
The IDENTIFY command is not a CP command, but a CMS command, it extracts its
information from SYSTEM NETID if availlable, else it uses the
System_Identifier;
The System_Identifier is used by CP Q USERID and displayed right bottom of
the 3270 terminals.
The Gateway is used when interconnecting VM systems in an ISFC collection.

2009/8/17 Gentry, Stephen 

>  Does anyone use the Gateway option on the System_Identifier  parameter in
> the SYSTEM  CONFIG  file?  I’ve tried using it and can’t get it do what I
> thought it would do.  System identifier is coded below (the cpuid has been
> replaces with x’s  but it is filled in correctly in the sys config file).
>
> System_Identifier * xx  DRTEST   Gateway LLIC
>
> System_Identifier_Default ZVMV5R40  Gateway LLIC
>
> When I issue the CP  ID  command  I get:
>
> ITTS01   AT DRTEST   VIA *08/17/09 16:28:31 EDT  MONDAY
>
> I expect to get:
>
> ITTS01   AT LLIC   VIA  RSCS08/17/09 16:28:31 EDT  MONDAY
>
>
>
> I do get the expected results when I code the information in the  SYSTEM
> NETID  file on the  S  drive
>
>
>
> Is my thinking correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>



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SYSTEM CONFIG file question

2009-08-17 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Does anyone use the Gateway option on the System_Identifier  parameter
in the SYSTEM  CONFIG  file?  I've tried using it and can't get it do
what I thought it would do.  System identifier is coded below (the cpuid
has been replaces with x's  but it is filled in correctly in the sys
config file).

System_Identifier * xx  DRTEST   Gateway LLIC  

System_Identifier_Default ZVMV5R40  Gateway LLIC  

When I issue the CP  ID  command  I get:  

ITTS01   AT DRTEST   VIA *08/17/09 16:28:31 EDT  MONDAY

I expect to get:

ITTS01   AT LLIC   VIA  RSCS08/17/09 16:28:31 EDT  MONDAY

 

I do get the expected results when I code the information in the  SYSTEM
NETID  file on the  S  drive

 

Is my thinking correct?

 

Thanks,

Steve



Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-17 Thread Scott Rohling
I'm not sure what you mean here..   of course this should work regardless of
how the guest is started - automatically or manually if things are setup
correctly.   Can you explain further?

Scott

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Kline, Martin wrote:

> >FYI... Rule #2: Don't annoy Security People.
>
> Clearly, at least to me NOW, I should have read the rules sooner.
>
> In any case, we have it working. Thanks for everyone's support.
>
> The answer(s) is/were to:
>
> 1) define the IP address we already had as the primary home address
> 2) define a vlink
> 3) add the 10.0.219.1 home address assigned to the vlink
> 4) define the LINUX guests with pre-assigned IP addresses in the 10.0.219
> subnet
> 5) define routes in each LINUX guest with the 10.0.219.1 destination
> 6) DO NOT START THE LINUX GUESTS AUTOMATICALLY!
>
> For some reason, starting the guests automatically prevents them from
> accessing the vswitch, and everything beyond that. Is this a
> documented/expected behavior? Has anyone else run into this issue?
>


where to find the real storage for a linux guest?

2009-08-17 Thread sunny . hu
One of my Co-worker is interested in how much real storage WAS is used on 
z/VM. ?compare with z/OS
We found on Perfsvm  FCX115

Storage def. :1024MB
Resident <2GB:   37680 
Resident >2GB:  219018 
Proj. WSET   :  256684 
Reserved pgs :   0 
Locked pages :   1 
XSTORE dedic.:   0MB
XSTORE pages :5156 

Can I use Proj. WSET *4/1024 to answer the question?
Should I add xstore pages?



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Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-17 Thread Dale R. Smith
Mark/Richard:

I'm guessing that the nightly compress of the MACLIB is done by some kind
 
of VM service machine.  If that's true, how about modifying the user code
 
to use the QUERY LINKS command to determive if the maintenance ID is 
linked to the MACLIB disk and if it is, don't allow updates.  Maybe issue
 
a message to let the user know that it is temporarily unavailable, go int
o 
a sleep loop and keep checking until the maintenance ID no longer has the
 
MACLIB disk linked, then allow updates again, or terminate the user code 

with a message, etc.  That might do the trick and wouldn't require a lot 

of work for a soon to be dead app, (we all know how "dead" things like to
 
stick around, like mainframes, VM, COBOL, etc.  :-)> ).

-- 
Dale R. Smith
"Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build
and nobody wants to do maintenance." 

- Kurt Vonnegut
 
 

On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:32:49 -0500, Mark Llewellyn  

wrote:

>Any veteran ISPF/PDF SMEs out there?
>
>We have an ancient and soon-to-be decommissioned ISPF/PDF application 

that 
>makes use of an enormous MACLIB on a shared mult-write minidisk.  Scary,
 
I 
>know, but that's the way ISPF works on CMS.
>
>This maclib can grow by millions of records per day, due to heavy 
activity 
>and inefficient old code.  Each night a maintenance routine copies this 

>maclib to a temp disk, compresses it, and copies it back to its home 
>disk.  There is an obvious vulnerability here - if the maclib is being 

>updated when being copied back to its usual home, it can corrupt the 
>file.  
>
>Although this system is going the way of the dinosaur soon, we need a 

>better way of regulating the size of the maclib if possible.  This is ou
r 
>only ISPF/PDF application, and the folks who designed it are years gone 

>from the company.
>
>Is there ANY way to persuade ISPF to squeeze the air out of the maclib o
n 
>the fly?  If not, is there a safe way to ask ISPF to suspend all update 

>activity while the backup/compress is occurring, then resume when the 

>maclib has been safely returned?
>
>Thanks! 
>
>Mark Llewellyn, Visa Inc.
>
=
===


Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
That may be a good measure for some, including you; however, it is not 
universal. We use V-disk for temp disks, so most of our CMS users have one or 
more V-disks. We would have to filter  the non-swap vdisks out of the results.

As noted, there is no one size fits all solution. You have to base your filters 
on knowledge of your system, conventions, and user base. If you want it to be 
nearly bullet-proof, you have to adopt some kind of convention and enforce it. 
(I couldn't even use machine size if we were mixing IFLs and regular CPUs in an 
LPAR - we have large, anywhere from 3.4 to 18 GB guests that are not Linux. In 
that situation, we could base it on whether the guest was IFL or other).


Regards,
Richard Schuh






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Subject: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

We use vdisk for swap.
So I find :
 q vdisk can tell me about the current running linux guests using Vdisk.

vmcp q vdisk |awk '{print($2)}' | sort -u



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How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-17 Thread sunny . hu
We use vdisk for swap.
So I find : 
 q vdisk can tell me about the current running linux guests using Vdisk.

vmcp q vdisk |awk '{print($2)}' | sort -u 



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Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2009-08-17 Thread Howard Rifkind
David,
 
Can you explain some more regarding the this process and how to set it up.
 
We recommend using a separate minidisk for each product and using VMLINK
with a shared NAMES file to access them as needed. Lets you do
indirection and gets you a way to easily catalog who is using which
product and how often it's used. At this point, the small real storage
savings is unlikely to outweigh the amount of time it takes to sort out
what files you need when you do an upgrade. 


--- On Mon, 5/19/08, David Boyes  wrote:


From: David Boyes 
Subject: Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 10:47 AM


> Thank you for this hint. Well I am also much more in favour to do the
> installation on a separate disks, however in my case IBM install
> instructions of the SDO (Semi-VMSES/E Licenced Products) tell to
install
> it
> on MAINT 19E. 

Save yourself a lot of pain. Don't. Mixing stuff up on the 19E is just a
recipe for a lot of heartache when you have to upgrade. 

We recommend using a separate minidisk for each product and using VMLINK
with a shared NAMES file to access them as needed. Lets you do
indirection and gets you a way to easily catalog who is using which
product and how often it's used. At this point, the small real storage
savings is unlikely to outweigh the amount of time it takes to sort out
what files you need when you do an upgrade. 

> Therefore I do it in the recommended way but only for IBM
> products ;-)

If there's a feedback form, submit it with the comment that this is a
REALLY bad idea. 



  

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-17 Thread Kline, Martin
>FYI... Rule #2: Don't annoy Security People.

Clearly, at least to me NOW, I should have read the rules sooner.

In any case, we have it working. Thanks for everyone's support.

The answer(s) is/were to:

1) define the IP address we already had as the primary home address
2) define a vlink 
3) add the 10.0.219.1 home address assigned to the vlink
4) define the LINUX guests with pre-assigned IP addresses in the 10.0.219
 
subnet
5) define routes in each LINUX guest with the 10.0.219.1 destination
6) DO NOT START THE LINUX GUESTS AUTOMATICALLY!

For some reason, starting the guests automatically prevents them from 
accessing the vswitch, and everything beyond that. Is this a 
documented/expected behavior? Has anyone else run into this issue?


Re: Links to a real device

2009-08-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
AhhhThanks!

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710


 


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Is there a way to determine the links (mdisks) to a device other than
via the directory (either with MDISKMAP or DIRMAP)?

DASD 0140 CP SYSTEM TM2000   4< 4 links, but who and what vdev

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Re: Links to a real device

2009-08-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
The "QUERY SYSTEM rdev" command will tell you who has links and at what virtual 
address. You can use "QUERY MDISK USER userid vdev DETAILS" to see who owns the 
minidisk and the owner's virtual address. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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> 
> Is there a way to determine the links (mdisks) to a device 
> other than via the directory (either with MDISKMAP or DIRMAP)?
> 
> DASD 0140 CP SYSTEM TM2000   4< 4 links, but who and what vdev
> 
> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
> Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
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Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-17 Thread Les Koehler
Ok, then they've already Bet The Business, so it's not your 
problem.


Les

Schuh, Richard wrote:
Unfortunately, that is not possible. This is a legacy application that is enterprise wide and the users have no knowledge that they are using it. It cannot be decommissioned until its replacement is fully operational sometime next month (assuming there are no delays). Management is fully aware of the problems with it and, like the people responsible for keeping it alive until then, hopes like hell that nothing major happens to either the application or its replacement in the interim. Fortunately, the main problems with the app can usually be fixed by restoring a backup and telling the users to redo what they have don since the restore point. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 


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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:34 PM
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Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

Explain the problem to management and let them decide if they 
want to Bet The Business on the current exposure. If not, let 
them announce to everyone when ISPF will be unavailable and 
FORCE all the users and take the ISPF disk away by whatever 
means are available (I'm retired and was not a SysProg, just 
a developer!)


Les

Schuh, Richard wrote:
Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking 
down the SVM would simply kill all of the protective 
mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep the users from trashing 
the file because of the MW links. In the absence of knowledge 
about its purpose, I would not suggest blindly taking it 
down. I really do not like to play the game of "My gun. My 
bullet. My body part." I might be able to get along ok if I 
only hit a little toe, but with my hands, parts higher up, 
such as a knee (bet you thought I was referring to something 
else), would also be vulnerable.

Regards,
Richard Schuh

 


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Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Llewellyn, 
Mark 

wrote:

The MACLIB is updated via PDF dialog table services, driven
by a number of older REXX EXECs.  It contains hundreds of members, 
which can be updated at any time, and new members are added every 
day.

I'm unsure if ISPF/PDF "locks" a member, or a table row,
each time it's updated.  Nevertheless, in order to compress the 
maclib we'd like to completely halt any possible update activity.  
Some sort of global ISPF command that I haven't found yet, perhaps.

The application runs ISPF in the users' individual virtual
machines.  ISPF does have a service machine, which runs mysterious 
"ISPF Services."


Take down the ISPF machine?





Gavin Appleton is out of the office.

2009-08-17 Thread Gavin Appleton

I will be out of the office starting  17/08/2009 and will not return until
20/08/2009.

I will respond to your message when I return.


Re: Links to a real device

2009-08-17 Thread Hodge, Robert L
CP Q SYS 140

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Subject: Links to a real device

Is there a way to determine the links (mdisks) to a device other than
via the directory (either with MDISKMAP or DIRMAP)?

DASD 0140 CP SYSTEM TM2000   4< 4 links, but who and what vdev

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
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Re: Links to a real device

2009-08-17 Thread Marcy Cortes
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Is there a way to determine the links (mdisks) to a device other than
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DASD 0140 CP SYSTEM TM2000   4< 4 links, but who and what vdev

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
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Links to a real device

2009-08-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Is there a way to determine the links (mdisks) to a device other than
via the directory (either with MDISKMAP or DIRMAP)?

DASD 0140 CP SYSTEM TM2000   4< 4 links, but who and what vdev

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
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Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
Unfortunately, that is not possible. This is a legacy application that is 
enterprise wide and the users have no knowledge that they are using it. It 
cannot be decommissioned until its replacement is fully operational sometime 
next month (assuming there are no delays). Management is fully aware of the 
problems with it and, like the people responsible for keeping it alive until 
then, hopes like hell that nothing major happens to either the application or 
its replacement in the interim. Fortunately, the main problems with the app can 
usually be fixed by restoring a backup and telling the users to redo what they 
have don since the restore point. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:34 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance
> 
> Explain the problem to management and let them decide if they 
> want to Bet The Business on the current exposure. If not, let 
> them announce to everyone when ISPF will be unavailable and 
> FORCE all the users and take the ISPF disk away by whatever 
> means are available (I'm retired and was not a SysProg, just 
> a developer!)
> 
> Les
> 
> Schuh, Richard wrote:
> > Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking 
> down the SVM would simply kill all of the protective 
> mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep the users from trashing 
> the file because of the MW links. In the absence of knowledge 
> about its purpose, I would not suggest blindly taking it 
> down. I really do not like to play the game of "My gun. My 
> bullet. My body part." I might be able to get along ok if I 
> only hit a little toe, but with my hands, parts higher up, 
> such as a knee (bet you thought I was referring to something 
> else), would also be vulnerable.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Richard Schuh
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> >> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of P S
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:50 PM
> >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Llewellyn, 
> Mark 
> >> wrote:
> >>> The MACLIB is updated via PDF dialog table services, driven
> >> by a number of older REXX EXECs.  It contains hundreds of members, 
> >> which can be updated at any time, and new members are added every 
> >> day.
> >>> I'm unsure if ISPF/PDF "locks" a member, or a table row,
> >> each time it's updated.  Nevertheless, in order to compress the 
> >> maclib we'd like to completely halt any possible update activity.  
> >> Some sort of global ISPF command that I haven't found yet, perhaps.
> >>> The application runs ISPF in the users' individual virtual
> >> machines.  ISPF does have a service machine, which runs mysterious 
> >> "ISPF Services."
> >>
> >> Take down the ISPF machine?
> >>
> > 
> 

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
A straw at which I cannot grasp.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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> 
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Schuh, 
> Richard wrote:
> > Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking 
> down the SVM would simply kill all of the protective 
> mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep the users from trashing 
> the file because of the MW links. In the absence of knowledge 
> about its purpose, I would not suggest blindly taking it 
> down. I really do not like to play the game of "My gun. My 
> bullet. My body part." I might be able to get along ok if I 
> only hit a little toe, but with my hands, parts higher up, 
> such as a knee (bet you thought I was referring to something 
> else), would also be vulnerable.
> 
> Ah, true. Urgh.
> 
> Got FlashCopy? Yes, I'm grasping at straw...
> 

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
Advice that Chuckie would be proud of :-)

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:28 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance
> 
> Schuh, Richard wrote:
> > The developers of the application chose to have the data 
> maintained in a single, ever-increasing, highly used, 
> frequently updated ISPF library, with no maintenance 
> routines, and no good way to identify obsolete members. The 
> application was already firmly entrenched when Mark and I 
> arrived at Visa. There have been at least three unsuccessful 
> attempts to replace in during my tenure here. The current 
> attempt is nearing completion. With luck, we only have to 
> keep the application running for a few more months..
> >
> >   
> Don't worry about it breaking. If the old one dies then that 
> is a great incentive for the developers to get the new one 
> working quickly. :)
> 
> 
> I didn't say that. Who me. Never.
> 
> -- 
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> 

Looking for someone to SHARE their Disaster Recovery story

2009-08-17 Thread Rick Barlow
I am the Project Manager for the VM Project at SHARE.  We have a Disaster
Recovery panel discussion session planned for SHARE in Denver next week.
One of the participants has had to back out because they are not going to be
able to travel.  I am looking for another customer site who is willing and
able to answer questions related to their experience Disaster Recovery in a
virtual environment.  This will not require a big, formal presentation -
just be willing to share your experience and answer questions.  If you would
be willing to participate with us and will be in Denver next week, please
contact me off list and I can provide more details.


Thank you!
Rick Barlow
VM Project Manager, SHARE


Re: ipwizard problem

2009-08-17 Thread Billy R. Bingham
In this case the IPWIZARD encounterd an error of some sort. IE: The OSA device 
was not online to VM or the LPAR. 

I ran into this same problem. The hardware guy gave me the wrong OSA addresses 
to use. Once I had the correct addresses the wizard completed and I was able to 
connect to TCP/IP.


Billy
 Tony Bergenza  wrote: 
> Hi ,
> Installed 5.4, exec IPWIZARD but failed with mes.
> dtcifc2605e tcp/ip stack tcp/ip is not available.
> do we hve to configure TCP/IP
> Any help will be appreciated
> Regards
> Tony


Re: PTK USRLIMITS by shifts?

2009-08-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
No, but I have run into this after a new z/VM installation.   I wondered about 
this as well, but have not had the chance to pursue.

Yes, it doesn't make sense that it seems to understand the command, seems to 
adjust the values, but doesn't use the new values in it's operation.

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710


 


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Shimon Lebowitz
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: PTK USRLIMITS by shifts?

You mean It is IMPOSSIBLE to change thresholds without 
stopping and restarting the PERFSVM? :-(
Isn't it strange that PTK *does* know about my 
new settings (as shown in results of
FC USRLIMIT QUERY) but doesn't obey them?

And doesn't anyone else have shifts with differing 
job characteristics?

Strange

Shimon



 Original message 
>Date:   Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:11:56 +0200
>From:   Eginhard Jaeger   
>Subject:   Re: [?? Probable Spam]  PTK USRLIMITS by shifts?  
>To:   IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>
>    
>   Shimon, see usage note 1 for the FC USRLIMIT
>   command: it tells you that PerfKit will associate
>   the user limit values with a user that were set at
>   the time the first set of performance data was
>   collected for that user (either PerfKit start or
>   first  user logon). Later changes will not affect
>   users that are already logged on, sorry ..
>
>   Eginhard Jaeger 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Shimon Lebowitz
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:48 PM
> Subject: [?? Probable Spam] PTK USRLIMITS by
> shifts?
> Hi,
> I set up events to change my PTK settings of
> USRLIMITS according to shifts.
> The main batch machines are not supposed to be
> gobbling resources during prime time,
> but at night they can run wild. So, while the
> usual USRLIMIT for %CPU is 30,
> at 17:00 I want to do FC USRLIMIT 
> %CPU   75 5/10.
>  
> I put several of these commands in an exec with
> 'FCONCMD FCSTACK',
> and the exec ran. I also did FC USRLIMIT QUERY and
> verified that the
> new settings are recognized.
>  
> But... I still get daytime exception messages at
> night.
>  
> What else do I need to do?
>  
> Thanks,
> Shimon
>  

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ipwizard problem

2009-08-17 Thread Tony Bergenza
Hi ,
Installed 5.4, exec IPWIZARD but failed with mes.
dtcifc2605e tcp/ip stack tcp/ip is not available.
do we hve to configure TCP/IP
Any help will be appreciated
Regards
Tony