Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
On Thursday, 10/22/2009 at 10:41 EDT, Stephen Frazier wrote: > So SSI (zVM0 is HA (VMware) and Live Guest Relocation (zVM) is vmotion > (VMware). I don't know what "zVM0" is, so I can't answer your question. > The architecture is SSI or HA and LGR or vmotion is what you can do with > the architecture. As I said, LGR is *one* of the services intended to be provided by a z/VM SSI cluster. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE
I am not a PIPE expert The criteria is actually delete lines where word(1) = 'XX' and word(3) = 'YY' and substring(25,1) = 'a' etc Any sample around ? Thanks -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Breneman Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE Gonen, Please consider using the NLOCATE or the PICK stages. Doug Breneman Z/VM Development IBM Endicott Inactive hide details for Gonen Shoham ---10/22/2009 05:23:49 PM---I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet Gonen Shoham ---10/22/2009 05:23:49 PM---I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet specific criteria. From: Gonen Shoham To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/22/2009 05:23 PM Subject: Delete cms file record using PIPE Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet specific criteria. For example - Delete all line where (word,1) = 'XX' and (word,2) = 'YY' Can someone suggest a way to perform this task using PIPES ? Thanks
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Alan Altmark wrote: On Thursday, 10/22/2009 at 04:04 EDT, Stephen Frazier wrote: Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it Single System Image. Actually, no. "Single System Image" is a cluster architecture. "Live Guest Relocation" (which requires an SSI cluster) is just one of the services that an SSI cluster will provide. [See my other post.] Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott So SSI (zVM0 is HA (VMware) and Live Guest Relocation (zVM) is vmotion (VMware). The architecture is SSI or HA and LGR or vmotion is what you can do with the architecture. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Adesse. That's the name I couldn't remember, only the final e was upside down. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:21 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 > > Until Romney does, Gerald Depass (and perhaps Romney) started Adesse. > Adesse had some pretty nifty products! > > IIRC, Single System Image was Romney's idea, after he started > VM/CMS Unlimited. > > It was the Thursday afternoon before we (Hewitt Associates) > were going live with a production implementation of SSI > coupling an Amdahl and an IBM > 4381 when we were informed that Romney was leaving VM/CMS > Unlimited. Alex > (Kodat?) at VM/CMS Unlimited was a terrific tech, but he > wasn't Romney. I could not put the fate of Hewitt's VM > system, and a very complex set of mods, into the hands of > company that just lost its senior leader. Before 5PM on > Friday we canceled all the production cutover plans and > changed our VM direction to go with a larger processor. > > Mike Walter > Hewitt Associates > The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. > > > > "Hughes, Jim" > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > 10/22/2009 04:00 PM > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 > > > > > > > Romney was with another outfit before VM/CMS Unlimited. For > some reason the name Gerald Depass jumps out at me. Perhaps > Romney can clear up all doubt. > > > Jim Hughes > 603-271-5586 > "It is fun to do the impossible." > > ==>-Original Message- > ==>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On ==>Behalf Of Schuh, Richard > ==>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:56 PM > ==>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > ==>Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct > 23 ==> ==>That Company was VM/CMS Unlimited, IIRC. > ==> > ==>Regards, > ==>Richard Schuh > ==> > ==> > ==> > ==>> -Original Message- > ==>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System ==>> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes > ==>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:43 PM ==>> To: > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==>> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. > targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 ==>> ==>> On 10/22/09 4:03 > PM, "Stephen Frazier" > wrote: > ==>> > ==>> > On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from > one ==>> ESX machine ==>> > to another without the operating > systems running on the virtual ==>> > machine knowing it. > ==>> > There are many good ideas from zVM that have been > copied by VMware. > ==>> > This is an example going the other way - zVM is using > a VMware idea. > ==>> > Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they > ==>> don't get ideas ==>> > from the other - but as an > administrator of both systems I can see ==>> > what is happening. > ==>> > Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a > vmdk on ==>> VMware. A ==>> > vSwitch on VMware is ... > ==>> > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it > ==>> Single System Image. > ==>> > ==>> It's a little older than that. In the VM/SP and HPO > days, ==>> there was a VM/SSI add-on from a 3rd party > company. It ==>> implemented a truly enormous number of CP > mods to allow ==>> virtual machines to move between a group > of physical systems ==>> with the SWITCH command. Worked > extremely well, till VM/XA ==>> came along. > ==>> > > > > > > > The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying > documents may contain information that is confidential or > otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the > intended recipient of this message, or if this message has > been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the > sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, > including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or > other use of the contents of this message by anyone other > than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All > messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be > monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to > ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect > our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed > to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or > destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have > accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. >
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
On Thursday, 10/22/2009 at 04:04 EDT, Stephen Frazier wrote: > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it Single System Image. Actually, no. "Single System Image" is a cluster architecture. "Live Guest Relocation" (which requires an SSI cluster) is just one of the services that an SSI cluster will provide. [See my other post.] Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Until Romney does, Gerald Depass (and perhaps Romney) started Adesse. Adesse had some pretty nifty products! IIRC, Single System Image was Romney's idea, after he started VM/CMS Unlimited. It was the Thursday afternoon before we (Hewitt Associates) were going live with a production implementation of SSI coupling an Amdahl and an IBM 4381 when we were informed that Romney was leaving VM/CMS Unlimited. Alex (Kodat?) at VM/CMS Unlimited was a terrific tech, but he wasn't Romney. I could not put the fate of Hewitt's VM system, and a very complex set of mods, into the hands of company that just lost its senior leader. Before 5PM on Friday we canceled all the production cutover plans and changed our VM direction to go with a larger processor. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Hughes, Jim" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 10/22/2009 04:00 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 Romney was with another outfit before VM/CMS Unlimited. For some reason the name Gerald Depass jumps out at me. Perhaps Romney can clear up all doubt. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "It is fun to do the impossible." ==>-Original Message- ==>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On ==>Behalf Of Schuh, Richard ==>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:56 PM ==>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==>Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 ==> ==>That Company was VM/CMS Unlimited, IIRC. ==> ==>Regards, ==>Richard Schuh ==> ==> ==> ==>> -Original Message- ==>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System ==>> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes ==>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:43 PM ==>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==>> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 ==>> ==>> On 10/22/09 4:03 PM, "Stephen Frazier" wrote: ==>> ==>> > On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one ==>> ESX machine ==>> > to another without the operating systems running on the virtual ==>> > machine knowing it. ==>> > There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. ==>> > This is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. ==>> > Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they ==>> don't get ideas ==>> > from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see ==>> > what is happening. ==>> > Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on ==>> VMware. A ==>> > vSwitch on VMware is ... ==>> > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it ==>> Single System Image. ==>> ==>> It's a little older than that. In the VM/SP and HPO days, ==>> there was a VM/SSI add-on from a 3rd party company. It ==>> implemented a truly enormous number of CP mods to allow ==>> virtual machines to move between a group of physical systems ==>> with the SWITCH command. Worked extremely well, till VM/XA ==>> came along. ==>> The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Romney was with another outfit before VM/CMS Unlimited. For some reason the name Gerald Depass jumps out at me. Perhaps Romney can clear up all doubt. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "It is fun to do the impossible." ==>-Original Message- ==>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On ==>Behalf Of Schuh, Richard ==>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:56 PM ==>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==>Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 ==> ==>That Company was VM/CMS Unlimited, IIRC. ==> ==>Regards, ==>Richard Schuh ==> ==> ==> ==>> -Original Message- ==>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System ==>> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes ==>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:43 PM ==>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==>> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 ==>> ==>> On 10/22/09 4:03 PM, "Stephen Frazier" wrote: ==>> ==>> > On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one ==>> ESX machine ==>> > to another without the operating systems running on the virtual ==>> > machine knowing it. ==>> > There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. ==>> > This is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. ==>> > Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they ==>> don't get ideas ==>> > from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see ==>> > what is happening. ==>> > Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on ==>> VMware. A ==>> > vSwitch on VMware is ... ==>> > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it ==>> Single System Image. ==>> ==>> It's a little older than that. In the VM/SP and HPO days, ==>> there was a VM/SSI add-on from a 3rd party company. It ==>> implemented a truly enormous number of CP mods to allow ==>> virtual machines to move between a group of physical systems ==>> with the SWITCH command. Worked extremely well, till VM/XA ==>> came along. ==>>
Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: > Now a question for those more deeply involved in Pipelines than me, is there > any advantage, other than perceived beauty, of using the "not pick wn == > ,XX," construct vs. "pick wn ^== ,XX,"? I would think not, but I may be > wrong. The two would both do the same comparison and send the records down > the same streams. I can see the advantage of having a visually simpler pipe > by using "not lookup autoadd" when only the records that become the masters > are wanted. To me the advantage is that I can remember "not" better than the trigraph for the "not equal" operator. But "not" is more than just syntactical sugar, but really is another pipeline stage that gets dispatched etc. So there is a small cost involved in passing the records through it. Depending on how trivial the subject stage is, the overhead becomes more visible. I suspect that "not cms" will be less of an issue, but I try very hard to get rid of my habit to use "not chop" :-) This does not apply to using "nlocate" vs "locate" to avoid messing with the secondary output. Only "not locate" would be more expensive than "nlocate" Rob
Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE
It will only work if the two words are separated by exactly the number of blanks in the pick stage. If the record was "XX YY Banana", it would be passed to the next stage. To handle a variable number of blanks requires something more: 'PIPE (end ?) < input-file|p: not pick w1 == ,XX,|f: faninany|> output-file?p: not pick w2 == ,YY,|f:' Now a question for those more deeply involved in Pipelines than me, is there any advantage, other than perceived beauty, of using the "not pick wn == ,XX," construct vs. "pick wn ^== ,XX,"? I would think not, but I may be wrong. The two would both do the same comparison and send the records down the same streams. I can see the advantage of having a visually simpler pipe by using "not lookup autoadd" when only the records that become the masters are wanted. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:33 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Gonen Shoham > wrote: > > I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet > specific > > criteria. > > > > For example - > > > > Delete all line where (word,1) = 'XX' and (word,2) = 'YY' > > > > > > Can someone suggest a way to perform this task using PIPES ? > > Deleting lines is only through writing the file again, but > skip the unwanted lines. > > PIPE < input file | not pick w1-2 == ,XX YY, | > output file a > > This is very much cheating, because it exploits the fact that > your check words are adjacent. For a general approach to > handle more complicated criteria you would need to look at > multi-stream pipelines > > Rob >
Re: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM
He needs DB2 connect. As I've understood the manual, DB2 VMVSE can participate in a federated database. I don't know if it would also require DB2 UDB or not. But it does show that a DB2 UDB system can support the federated structure and can access DB2/VM. Tom Duerbusch Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Anthony Pignataro Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:27:39 To: Subject: Fw: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM My customer just indicated what he meant to say was he wanted to go from a 'Federated' environment on AIX to a DB2/VM database. SOrry for the misinformation. Any idea what they would have to do to go from AIX to a DB2 server on VM? Tony Pignataro Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY, (845) 433-7617, Tie Line 8-293-7617 - Forwarded by Anthony Pignataro/Poughkeepsie/IBM on 10/22/2009 10:25 AM - From: Anthony Pignataro/Poughkeepsie/IBM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/22/2009 09:31 AM Subject:Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM Hello.. I have a customer who is looking to access a Federated Database residing in AIX from VM. No database in the VM environment. So VM would strictly be a 'launching pad' or the requestor environment and the Federated database in AIX would be the server. Can this be done? If so, is it documented anywhere or does anyone have an idea how to do it. DRDA? TCP/IP? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Tony Pignataro IBM - Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY
Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Gonen Shoham wrote: > I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet specific > criteria. > > For example - > > Delete all line where (word,1) = 'XX' and (word,2) = 'YY' > > > Can someone suggest a way to perform this task using PIPES ? Deleting lines is only through writing the file again, but skip the unwanted lines. PIPE < input file | not pick w1-2 == ,XX YY, | > output file a This is very much cheating, because it exploits the fact that your check words are adjacent. For a general approach to handle more complicated criteria you would need to look at multi-stream pipelines Rob
Re: Delete cms file record using PIPE
Gonen, Please consider using the NLOCATE or the PICK stages. Doug Breneman Z/VM Development IBM Endicott From: Gonen Shoham To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/22/2009 05:23 PM Subject:Delete cms file record using PIPE Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet specific criteria. For example - Delete all line where (word,1) = 'XX' and (word,2) = 'YY' Can someone suggest a way to perform this task using PIPES ? Thanks
Delete cms file record using PIPE
I have a CMS file in which I need to delete lines that meet specific criteria. For example - Delete all line where (word,1) = 'XX' and (word,2) = 'YY' Can someone suggest a way to perform this task using PIPES ? Thanks
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Here is a link to an article from February 1988 that has a bit of a description. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0SMG/is_n2_v8/ai_6289666/ Bob -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 That Company was VM/CMS Unlimited, IIRC. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:43 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 > > On 10/22/09 4:03 PM, "Stephen Frazier" wrote: > > > On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one > ESX machine > > to another without the operating systems running on the virtual > > machine knowing it. > > There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. > > This is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. > > Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they > don't get ideas > > from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see > > what is happening. > > Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on > VMware. A > > vSwitch on VMware is ... > > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it > Single System Image. > > It's a little older than that. In the VM/SP and HPO days, there was a > VM/SSI add-on from a 3rd party company. It implemented a truly > enormous number of CP mods to allow virtual machines to move between a > group of physical systems with the SWITCH command. Worked extremely > well, till VM/XA came along. > = This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited.
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
That Company was VM/CMS Unlimited, IIRC. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:43 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23 > > On 10/22/09 4:03 PM, "Stephen Frazier" wrote: > > > On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one > ESX machine > > to another without the operating systems running on the virtual > > machine knowing it. > > There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. > > This is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. > > Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they > don't get ideas > > from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see > > what is happening. > > Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on > VMware. A > > vSwitch on VMware is ... > > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it > Single System Image. > > It's a little older than that. In the VM/SP and HPO days, > there was a VM/SSI add-on from a 3rd party company. It > implemented a truly enormous number of CP mods to allow > virtual machines to move between a group of physical systems > with the SWITCH command. Worked extremely well, till VM/XA > came along. >
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
On 10/22/09 4:03 PM, "Stephen Frazier" wrote: > On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one ESX machine to > another without the operating systems running on the virtual machine > knowing it. > There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. This > is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. > Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they don't get ideas > from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see what > is happening. > Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on VMware. A > vSwitch on VMware is ... > Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it Single System Image. It's a little older than that. In the VM/SP and HPO days, there was a VM/SSI add-on from a 3rd party company. It implemented a truly enormous number of CP mods to allow virtual machines to move between a group of physical systems with the SWITCH command. Worked extremely well, till VM/XA came along.
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Many years ago at the University of Waterloo, multiple VM systems were connected together in a Single System Image and running virtual machines were moved from one physical system to another based on need. This is nothing new. This is just finally coming out from IBM. Thank you Romney. /Tom Kern On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:03:12 -0500, Stephen Frazier wrote: >On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one ESX machine to >another without the operating systems running on the virtual machine >knowing it. >There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. This >is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. >Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they don't get ideas >from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see what >is happening. >Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on VMware. A >vSwitch on VMware is ... >Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it Single System Ima ge. > >Alain Benveniste wrote: >> I'm not sure what should be understood by "Single System Image" ? >> Could you give me a brief explanation of this meaning ? >-- >Stephen Frazier >Information Technology Unit >Oklahoma Department of Corrections >3400 Martin Luther King >Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 >Tel.: (405) 425-2549 >Fax: (405) 425-2554 >Pager: (405) 690-1828 >email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
On VMware you can move a running virtual machine from one ESX machine to another without the operating systems running on the virtual machine knowing it. There are many good ideas from zVM that have been copied by VMware. This is an example going the other way - zVM is using a VMware idea. Both VMware and zVM developers will tell you that they don't get ideas from the other - but as an administrator of both systems I can see what is happening. Same thing different names - a minidisk on zVM is a vmdk on VMware. A vSwitch on VMware is ... Now zVM is adding vmotion from VMware, so they call it Single System Image. Alain Benveniste wrote: I'm not sure what should be understood by "Single System Image" ? Could you give me a brief explanation of this meaning ? -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Fw: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM
My customer just indicated what he meant to say was he wanted to go from a 'Federated' environment on AIX to a DB2/VM database. SOrry for the misinformation. Any idea what they would have to do to go from AIX to a DB2 server on VM? Tony Pignataro Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY, (845) 433-7617, Tie Line 8-293-7617 - Forwarded by Anthony Pignataro/Poughkeepsie/IBM on 10/22/2009 10:25 AM - From: Anthony Pignataro/Poughkeepsie/IBM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/22/2009 09:31 AM Subject:Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM Hello.. I have a customer who is looking to access a Federated Database residing in AIX from VM. No database in the VM environment. So VM would strictly be a 'launching pad' or the requestor environment and the Federated database in AIX would be the server. Can this be done? If so, is it documented anywhere or does anyone have an idea how to do it. DRDA? TCP/IP? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Tony Pignataro IBM - Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY
Re: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM
My customer had this backwards.. My apologies.. They want to go from a Federated environment in AIX to a DB2 server on VM. Tony Pignataro Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY, (845) 433-7617, Tie Line 8-293-7617 From: Rich Smrcina To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/22/2009 10:16 AM Subject:Re: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System I'm not sure if Federated Support is available in DB2 for VSE & VM, but minimally the DB2 for VM 7.5 client code would need to be installed on VM, which is basically everything except the database engine. I would suggest starting with the General Information manual. Or maybe the product announcement. Since you are in product support, I'm sure there are people in Toronto that you can ask. Anthony Pignataro wrote: > > Hello.. > > I have a customer who is looking to access a Federated Database > residing in AIX from VM. No database in the VM environment. So VM > would strictly be a 'launching pad' or the requestor environment and > the Federated database in AIX would be the server. Can this be done? > If so, is it documented anywhere or does anyone have an idea how to do > it. DRDA? TCP/IP? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. > > Tony Pignataro > > > IBM - Information Technology Services America > DB2/VM Support > Poughkeepsie, NY > -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
Re: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM
I'm not sure if Federated Support is available in DB2 for VSE & VM, but minimally the DB2 for VM 7.5 client code would need to be installed on VM, which is basically everything except the database engine. I would suggest starting with the General Information manual. Or maybe the product announcement. Since you are in product support, I'm sure there are people in Toronto that you can ask. Anthony Pignataro wrote: Hello.. I have a customer who is looking to access a Federated Database residing in AIX from VM. No database in the VM environment. So VM would strictly be a 'launching pad' or the requestor environment and the Federated database in AIX would be the server. Can this be done? If so, is it documented anywhere or does anyone have an idea how to do it. DRDA? TCP/IP? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Tony Pignataro IBM - Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
Re: Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM
There is a "DB2 Client" feature for VM. It provides what you need: the DRDA code for use by DB2 programs, without requiring to buy the SW for a DB2 Server. Some more official title: The DB2 Client Edition on VM 7.5 - program nbr: 5697-F42 (was available as PRPQ P10154 in V7.3) 2009/10/22 Anthony Pignataro > Hello.. > > I have a customer who is looking to access a Federated Database residing in > AIX from VM. No database in the VM environment. So VM would strictly be a > 'launching pad' or the requestor environment and the Federated database in > AIX would be the server. Can this be done? If so, is it documented anywhere > or does anyone have an idea how to do it. DRDA? TCP/IP? Any help or > suggestions would be appreciated. > > Tony Pignataro > > > IBM - Information Technology Services America > DB2/VM Support > Poughkeepsie, NY > > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Accessing a Federated DB in AIX from VM
Hello.. I have a customer who is looking to access a Federated Database residing in AIX from VM. No database in the VM environment. So VM would strictly be a 'launching pad' or the requestor environment and the Federated database in AIX would be the server. Can this be done? If so, is it documented anywhere or does anyone have an idea how to do it. DRDA? TCP/IP? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Tony Pignataro IBM - Information Technology Services America DB2/VM Support Poughkeepsie, NY
Re: z/VM 6.1 G.A. targeted for this Friday, Oct 23
Alan I suppose we could compare this to a z/OS complex. And is it true to say that if I pay to use 30mips for one VM, i could divide the work to 4 VM, each one having 30mips for the same price ? Alain Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 22 oct. 2009 à 08:05, Alan Altmark a écrit : On Wednesday, 10/21/2009 at 12:36 EDT, Alain Benveniste wrote: I'm not sure what should be understood by "Single System Image" ? Could you give me a brief explanation of this meaning ? A Single System Image will be a cluster of 2, 3, or 4 z/VM LPARs that has the following characteristics: a) All member systems are in an ISFC collection created by FICON CTC connections b) All members are connected to the same SANs and Ethernet LAN segments, with the same access rights c) They share dasd volumes. d) With special exceptions, the users have identical directory entries on each system e) The users all have the same "security context". That is, users have the same privileges and access rights without regard to which of the member systems they log onto. Attributes of the cluster include: 1) System programmer-defined cluster configuration (the systems can share a single SYSTEM CONFIG) 2) Except for those above-mentioned special exceptions, a user can logon to only one member of the cluster at a time 3) Subject to those same exceptions, users can access their spool files from any member of the cluster, regardless of which system they were logged onto when they created them. (The cluster member must be up in order to see spool files created on that member.) 4) Class G users will generally experience a single image. I.e. QUERY NAMES shows the users from all of the systems. TELL ALAN works without regard to the system ALAN is logged on to. SET SECUSER doesn't care where in the cluster either user is located. 5) There are cross-system LINK protections (similar to XLINK-protected disks) 6) The ability to maintain (SERVICE) all of the member systems from a single system. 7) The capability to move most running Linux guests from one member to another without having to hibernate it or shut it down 8) Built-in data and virtual server integrity protections during guest relocation 9) Other cool stuff Except for item 7, people may recognize this as being similar to Cross System Extensions. It's true that CSE provided inspiration, but unlike CSE, a single system image (SSI) cluster is managed by CP himself and has more capabilities than CSE. Note that the above are a Statement of Direction. "Such statements are subject to change or withdrawal without notice and represent goals and objectives only." Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
