Re: CRYPTO card query

2010-02-03 Thread Magat, Martin
Hi thanks!

How about 'detaching' crypto from zVM? So the CE can do maintenance?

q crypto apq 
AP 00 CEX3C Queue 11 is installed
AP 01 CEX3C Queue 11 is installed
AP 02 CEX3C Queue 11 is installed
AP 03 CEX3C Queue 11 is installed
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:24:23  
 

Best Regards,
Martin Magat


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Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CRYPTO card query

On Tuesday, 02/02/2010 at 10:47 EST, "Magat, Martin" 
 wrote:
> Yes thanks .. although a command on the zVM level will be more useful
> since I don't need to login to each linux guest console to check
whether
> it has access to crypto or not.

Your wish is granted.  (poof!)  With APAR VM64656, the USERS operand is 
added to QUERY CRYPTO APQS.  PTFs are available for z/VM 5.3, 5.4, and 
6.1.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CRYPTO card query

2010-02-03 Thread Magat, Martin
Thanks .. the command works (with the PTF applied)

Best Regards,
Martin Magat


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Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:41 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CRYPTO card query

Whoa, way cool. 
You guys need to advertise these new function things!


Marcy 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:34 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CRYPTO card query

On Tuesday, 02/02/2010 at 10:47 EST, "Magat, Martin" 
 wrote:
> Yes thanks .. although a command on the zVM level will be more useful
> since I don't need to login to each linux guest console to check
whether
> it has access to crypto or not.

Your wish is granted.  (poof!)  With APAR VM64656, the USERS operand is 
added to QUERY CRYPTO APQS.  PTFs are available for z/VM 5.3, 5.4, and 
6.1.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: 2010 IBM System z Technical Conferences, zExpo, Technical

2010-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
Will it come out in paperback? :)


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela 
> Christina (we have a bit of snow)
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:39 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: 2010 IBM System z Technical Conferences, zExpo, Technical
> 
> > what is the cost of the webcast?
> 
> I'm sorry. I don't understand your question.
> 
> My initial posting was about a face-to-face event (System z 
> Technical University).  There is no webcast associated with it.
> 
> Regards, Pam C
> 

Re: 2010 IBM System z Technical Conferences, zExpo, Technical

2010-02-03 Thread Pamela Christina (we have a bit of snow)
> what is the cost of the webcast?

I'm sorry. I don't understand your question.

My initial posting was about a face-to-face event
(System z Technical University).  There is no webcast
associated with it.

Regards, Pam C


Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Mike Walter
Congratulations, Rich! 

Good thing the move was on February 1, and not April 1, eh?
Perhaps your background working with Hobbit will help out?

Best wishes!

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



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Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.

As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity Software, Inc.

It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ years.  Working 
with Bob Kusche has been a absolutely wonderful experience.

Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David Kreuter of 
VM Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of VM and networking and 
is a fantastic resource.

I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!

Thanks.

-- 
Rich Smrcina
Velocity Software, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY






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Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
That lpar is running zOS 1.10.

Mark Jacobs


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of David Boyes
Sent: Wed 2/3/2010 4:23 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch
 
You need a very modern z/OS for layer 2 connections to work. You don't say what 
level of z.OS, but I think it has to be minimum 1.10 if not 1.11.




On 2/3/10 2:54 PM, "russell.gendr...@custserv.com" 
 wrote:

Greetings,


We currently have multiple Linux guest running on z/VM on both a layer 3 tcp/ip 
vswitch as well as a layer 2 vswitch.
On one particular z/VM we have a hipersocket link to a z/OS system for using 
the TSMTCS backup application.
Currently only the layer 3 guests use the hipersockets. We tried to define the 
hipersocket link on the z/OS system
To a layer 2 Linux guest but there is no connection for some reason.
Has anyone else tried this and if so were you successful?

Thanks
Russell Gendreau
Time Customer Service, Inc.
813-554-2064


Re: hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
You need a very modern z/OS for layer 2 connections to work. You don’t say what 
level of z.OS, but I think it has to be minimum 1.10 if not 1.11.




On 2/3/10 2:54 PM, "russell.gendr...@custserv.com" 
 wrote:

Greetings,


We currently have multiple Linux guest running on z/VM on both a layer 3 tcp/ip 
vswitch as well as a layer 2 vswitch.
On one particular z/VM we have a hipersocket link to a z/OS system for using 
the TSMTCS backup application.
Currently only the layer 3 guests use the hipersockets. We tried to define the 
hipersocket link on the z/OS system
To a layer 2 Linux guest but there is no connection for some reason.
Has anyone else tried this and if so were you successful?

Thanks
Russell Gendreau
Time Customer Service, Inc.
813-554-2064




Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
Depends on your wine collection.


On 2/3/10 1:21 PM, "Mark Post"  wrote:

 On 2/3/2010 at 12:58 PM, "Schuh, Richard"  wrote:
>> Keep Barton, Tony, Rob, et.al., in line, if you can.
> 
> I think that's a hopeless task, at best.  :)
> 
> 
> Mark Post


Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Jeffry A. Kennedy
It's been a long time since we worked together, best of luck with your new 
position. 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:16 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Movin On...

Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.

As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity Software, Inc.

It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ years.  Working with 
Bob Kusche has been a absolutely wonderful experience.

Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David Kreuter of VM 
Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of VM and networking and is a 
fantastic resource.

I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!

Thanks.

--
Rich Smrcina
Velocity Software, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY


hipersockets on a VM layer 2 vswitch

2010-02-03 Thread russell . gendreau
Greetings,

 

 

We currently have multiple Linux guest running on z/VM on both a layer 3
tcp/ip vswitch as well as a layer 2 vswitch.

On one particular z/VM we have a hipersocket link to a z/OS system for
using the TSMTCS backup application.

Currently only the layer 3 guests use the hipersockets. We tried to
define the hipersocket link on the z/OS system

To a layer 2 Linux guest but there is no connection for some reason.

Has anyone else tried this and if so were you successful?

 

Thanks

Russell Gendreau

Time Customer Service, Inc.

813-554-2064

 



Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
Back in the days when Lyn Hadley had the title of Ombudsman, he took it 
personally if anyone said that something was BAD (for the newbies, Broken as 
Designed) or WAD (Working as Designed), and tried to eliminate that kind of 
response from the IBM vocabulary. If something is WAD, but the design had 
problems, he took action without requiring pleas from the user groups. Come on, 
Alan. He wasn't a bigger man than you, was he? :-) (Yeah, times have probably 
changed.)

There are times when a one size fits all solution will work very well. This, to 
me, seems to not be one of them. Chip's adjective works for me. 


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> > 
> > No, sorry.  If the documentation (procedures or 
> requirements) is not 
> > clear, then THAT is APARable.
> 
> Which makes the documented procedure or requirements just 
> plain FUGLY.  Time for a SHARE Requirement?
> 
> -Chip-
> 

Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
Thus the, "if you can". :) I gave him an out.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:22 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Movin On...
> 
> >>> On 2/3/2010 at 12:58 PM, "Schuh, Richard" 
>  wrote: 
> > Keep Barton, Tony, Rob, et.al., in line, if you can.  
> 
> I think that's a hopeless task, at best.  :)
> 
> 
> Mark Post
> 

Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/3/2010 at 12:58 PM, "Schuh, Richard"  wrote: 
> Keep Barton, Tony, Rob, et.al., in line, if you can.  

I think that's a hopeless task, at best.  :)


Mark Post


Re: mixed text in CP SMSG

2010-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
It the receiver of the SMSG folding it to upper case?


Regards,
Richard Schuh






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Aisik Chang
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: mixed text in CP SMSG

It still does not come out with the mixed case:
-
10:11:42
 8 *-* address command 'CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3:'  cpline
   >>>   "CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3: Testing"
10 *-* exit
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:42
ESATCP  : 10:11:42 MAINT   (3779) has issued command: ALERT ZVM-SEV3: TESTING
-

I used disg 8, but the same result.  What's missing here  ?

Thanks,

Ann




On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Hayden 
mailto:bjhay...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Put it in your exec as:
Address Command  'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
And if 'VMUSER' is the userid and not a variable, put it in the quotes too:
Address Command  'CP SMSG  VMUSER'  tline

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Aisik Chang 
mailto:a829...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I have an exec:
>
> /*  */
> tline = 'This is a testing'
> 'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
> exit
> 
> VMUSER received all uppercase text.
>  Is there was to send mixed case  with the command  CP SMSG ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ann



--
Bruce Hayden
z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
IBM, Endicott, NY



Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
Sorry to lose you; welcome back.

Keep Barton, Tony, Rob, et.al., in line, if you can.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:16 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Movin On...
> 
> Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.
> 
> As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity 
> Software, Inc.
> 
> It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ 
> years.  Working with Bob Kusche has been a absolutely 
> wonderful experience.
> 
> Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David 
> Kreuter of VM Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of 
> VM and networking and is a fantastic resource.
> 
> I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Rich Smrcina
> Velocity Software, Inc.
> Phone: 414-491-6001
> http://www.velocitysoftware.com
> 
> Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
> WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
> 

Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Congratulations Rich all of the gang at Velocity are great folks and
have helped me immensely during my initial struggles and continue to
help me with both z/VM basics as well as trying to thoroughly understand
the performance nuances of the z/VM and z/Linux environments.  I do a
fair amount of talking with the Velocity folks so I am sure we will be
talking also at some point.

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191
WFH - Wed and Fri.


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Edward M Martin
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:15 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Movin On...

Congratulations.  You always do well!

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
ext 35050

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:16 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Movin On...

Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.

As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity Software,
Inc.

It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ years.  Working

with Bob Kusche has been a absolutely wonderful experience.

Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David Kreuter of 
VM Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of VM and networking and 
is a fantastic resource.

I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!

Thanks.

-- 
Rich Smrcina
Velocity Software, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY


Re: First time DR exercise

2010-02-03 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks Mike for the time that you put into your answer it is
appreciated! 

Again thanks to all who replied! 

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191
WFH - Wed and Fri.


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:08 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: First time DR excercise

Is  your management 100% certain that YOU will survive the unplanned 
disaster?  Do you agree with them?  What happens when there is a natural

disaster where you do survive, but your family needs you immediately?
Do 
you choose to go to the D.R. site for an unspecified period of time, 
hoping that someone else will take care of your family's needs (some
could 
involve hospitalization, right?). 

In that vein, see below for alternative to which I am naturally partial 
since it allows easy, well-tested, automated changes when running on a 
different CPUs.  That's especially handy when an experienced systems 
programmer is not available.  I have always tied to write my VM D.R.
plan 
so that a typical VM operator, or even a non-VM manager (!) could bring
up 
the VM system at least to the point that program product cpuid keys need

to be updated for the recovery CPU.

First, if you plan to restore your production SPOOL data at your D.R. 
site, placement (slot numbers) of the SPOOL volumes in the SYSTEM
CONFIG's 
"OWN"ed list does not matter *if* you are formatting them and restoring 
from an SPXTAPE backup (or a product that calls SPXTAPE, such as 
VM:Spool).  However, I share with you that...
:religion on
1) it is always a "Best Practice" to place your SPOOL volumes in the 
SYSTEM CONFIG either starting in SLOT 1, 
2) with plenty of RESERVED slots below for adding more (RESERVED slots 
have very little overhead, IBM won't even charge you more for them!)
e.g. 
PRODVM: RECOVERY: CP_Owned   Slot  1   VMSP01 OWN 
PRODVM: RECOVERY: CP_Owned   Slot  2   VMSP02 OWN 
PRODVM: RECOVERY: CP_Owned   Slot  3   VMSP03 OWN 
  CP_Owned   Slot  4   RESERVED 
... and more RESERVED slots for future SPOOL growth as needed... 
3) or in the very last slots (i.e. ending with SLOT 255 backing up from 
there with plenty of RESERVED slots above),

... and more RESERVED slots above for future SPOOL growth as needed...  
  CP_Owned   Slot  252 RESERVED 
PRODVM: RECOVERY: CP_Owned   Slot  253  VMSP03 OWN
PRODVM: RECOVERY: CP_Owned   Slot  254  VMSP02 OWN 
PRODVM: RECOVERY: CP_Owned   Slot  255  VMSP01 OWN 
  4) Regardless of their top or bottom location, include "flashing 
red-neon" comments (that's just a point of emphasis, don't search IBM
doc 
for "flashing red-neon" comments), warning you and your sysprog heirs to

NEVER CHANGE SPOOL VOLUME SLOT NUMBERS WITHOUT A CURRENT SPXTAPE BACKUP 
(and a thorough plan already tested on a 2nd level system, and ... an 
off-site copy of your resume)!
:religion off

Now, about that SYSTEM CONFIG file. 
--- 
Let's presume that your normal product system runs on  an ancient,
creaky 
old z800, with serial number 12345.

And that your employer has a number of shiny newer boxes with known
serial 
numbers, upon any of which you might be able to RECOVER your production 
z/VM system should your creaky rusted decrepit old z800 crash and take a

while to repair -- as parts are shipped from some far-off location where

old machines are stored (maybe in the desert near all old those old 
aircraft?).

If none of those "RECOVERY" systems are available (i.e. it really was a 
*true* DISASTER), then you'll come up on a disaster recovery provider's 
"DISASTER" machine.

Consider including in the SYSTEM CONFIG something along the lines of:

--  
/* --- */ 
/* Standard operating environment.  See also "NODAL CONFIG Y"  */ 
/* which contains some hard-coded device addresses that change */ 
/* when running on different systems based upon the defined*/ 
/* "System_Identifer" from this file.  */ 
/* Warning!: The last (of duplicate) System_ID record with */ 
/* matching model and cpuid value overrides previous System_IDs*/ 
/* --- */ 
System_ID 2066 %%2345 PRODVM 
System_ID 2094 %%nnn1 RECOVERY 
System_ID 2094 %%nnn2 RECOVERY 
System_ID 2097 %%nnn3 RECOVERY 
System_ID 2097 %%nnn4 RECOVERY 
 
/* Use DISASTER only when we're not in our data center so */ 
/* that extensive D.R. automation can take place on various   */ 
/* service machines when running PROFILE EXEC/PROFILE GCS's.  */ 
System_Identifier_Default DISASTER 

/**/

/*Timezone Definitions*/

/* 

Re: 2010 IBM System z Technical Conferences, zExpo, Technical University

2010-02-03 Thread Louis . Gaines
what is the cost of the webcast


Re: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM

2010-02-03 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Me too.   :-)

CF1, CF2 and CF3 come off the (virtual) tape in z/VM 5.4 with them
defined to MAINT as RR, so I didn't have to do anything. Our starter
USER DIRECT for z/VM 5.4 (on MAINT 2CC disk) has them set up that way.
I also don't recall having to make them that way in 5.3 or 4.4. They
are RR in the old 4.4 directory I have saved.

Never had a 3.1 system, but in VM/ESA 2.3 CF1 and CF2 were MR. (I save
a lot of useful stuff!) Must have been the ghosts in the machine that
changed it but not sure when.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, David Boyes  wrote:
> Yeah, you could do that. Although it's one more config change to document
> and maintain, and I'm a lazy man. 8-)
>
>
>
> On 2/3/10 11:21 AM, "Ron Schmiedge"  wrote:
>
>> We have our CF1 and CF2 (and CF3 now that it exists) defined as RR in
>> the VM directory. This means no messages complaining about the disks
>> at IPL.
>>
>> When MAINT needs to update CF1, after doing a "CPREL A", we issue "CP
>> LINK * CF1 CF1 W" and access it.
>


Re: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
Yeah, you could do that. Although it's one more config change to document
and maintain, and I'm a lazy man. 8-)



On 2/3/10 11:21 AM, "Ron Schmiedge"  wrote:

> We have our CF1 and CF2 (and CF3 now that it exists) defined as RR in
> the VM directory. This means no messages complaining about the disks
> at IPL.
> 
> When MAINT needs to update CF1, after doing a "CPREL A", we issue "CP
> LINK * CF1 CF1 W" and access it.


Re: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM

2010-02-03 Thread Ron Schmiedge
We have our CF1 and CF2 (and CF3 now that it exists) defined as RR in
the VM directory. This means no messages complaining about the disks
at IPL.

When MAINT needs to update CF1, after doing a "CPREL A", we issue "CP
LINK * CF1 CF1 W" and access it.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:59 AM, David Boyes  wrote:
> On 2/3/10 1:00 AM, "Gregg C Levine"  wrote:
>
>> Subject: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced
>> R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
>>
>> HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
>> HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF2 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
>
> These are normal. What it's telling you is that you just tried to access a
> minidisk in R/W mode when another user (in this case CP) has an exclusive
> R/O link.
>
> CF1 and CF2 are the CP minidisks that hold SYSTEM CONFIG. MAINT has R/W
> links to them in it's directory entry because it needs to access them to
> update them, but you have to CPRELEASE them before the R/W links will work.
>
> This is a safety measure. Don't defeat it.
>


Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Edward M Martin
Congratulations.  You always do well!

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
ext 35050

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:16 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Movin On...

Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.

As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity Software,
Inc.

It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ years.  Working

with Bob Kusche has been a absolutely wonderful experience.

Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David Kreuter of 
VM Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of VM and networking and 
is a fantastic resource.

I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!

Thanks.

-- 
Rich Smrcina
Velocity Software, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY


Re: mixed text in CP SMSG

2010-02-03 Thread Mike Walter
Ahhh... it all becomes a little bit clearer now.

Issued from a REXX-language exec:
address command 'CP SMSG OPERATOR Please ignore this mixed case 
message.' 
Note that we are running CA's VM:Operator on the userid OPERATOR. 
VM:Operator is set here to accept the CP SMSG data.

VM:Operator displays that message as:
Please ignore this mixed case message. 

So, we have proof that CP is not uppercasing all SMSG command text issued 
within quotes.  (Different results will be observed when entering the 
command outside of quotes in rexx, and without the 'address command' 
environment, and from the CMS command line.)

But you are sending the CP SMSG data to ESATCP, a different application 
program.  Apparently, ESATCP is upper-casing the message text.

Look in ESATCP for additional clues.  FWIW, the good folks at Velocity 
Software monitor the list pretty closely, but you probably should contact 
them directly for product assistance.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



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It still does not come out with the mixed case:
-
10:11:42   

 8 *-* address command 'CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3:'  
cpline
   >>>   "CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3: 
Testing"  
10 *-* 
exit
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 
10:11:42
ESATCP  : 10:11:42 MAINT   (3779) has issued command: ALERT ZVM-SEV3: 
TESTING  
-
 
I used disg 8, but the same result.  What's missing here  ?
 
Thanks,
 
Ann
 


 
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Hayden  wrote:
Put it in your exec as:
Address Command  'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
And if 'VMUSER' is the userid and not a variable, put it in the quotes 
too:
Address Command  'CP SMSG  VMUSER'  tline

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Aisik Chang  wrote:
> I have an exec:
>
> /*  */
> tline = 'This is a testing'
> 'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
> exit
> 
> VMUSER received all uppercase text.
>  Is there was to send mixed case  with the command  CP SMSG ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ann



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Re: mixed text in CP SMSG

2010-02-03 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Aisik Chang  wrote:

It still does not come out with the mixed case:

-
10:11:42
 8 *-* address command 'CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3:'  cpline
   >>>   "CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3: Testing"
10 *-* exit
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:42
ESATCP  : 10:11:42 MAINT   (3779) has issued command: ALERT ZVM-SEV3:
TESTING

-

I used disg 8, but the same result.  What's missing here  ?


I forget whether ESATCP uppercases input -- I suspect it does. This works
for me:

'CP SM RSCS Q SYS'
 Link Line
 Name Status Type Addr LU Name  Logmode  Queueing
 

call diag 8, 'SM RSCS Q sys'
 Location sys is not defined

Same for ADDRESS COMMAND.


Re: mixed text in CP SMSG

2010-02-03 Thread Aisik Chang
It still does not come out with the mixed case:
-
10:11:42

 8 *-* address command 'CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3:'
cpline
   >>>   "CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3:
Testing"
10 *-*
exit
Ready; T=0.01/0.01
10:11:42
ESATCP  : 10:11:42 MAINT   (3779) has issued command: ALERT ZVM-SEV3:
TESTING
-

I used disg 8, but the same result.  What's missing here  ?

Thanks,

Ann




On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Hayden  wrote:

> Put it in your exec as:
> Address Command  'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
> And if 'VMUSER' is the userid and not a variable, put it in the quotes too:
> Address Command  'CP SMSG  VMUSER'  tline
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Aisik Chang  wrote:
> > I have an exec:
> >
> > /*  */
> > tline = 'This is a testing'
> > 'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
> > exit
> > 
> > VMUSER received all uppercase text.
> >  Is there was to send mixed case  with the command  CP SMSG ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ann
>
>
>
> --
> Bruce Hayden
> z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
> IBM, Endicott, NY
>


Re: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
On 2/3/10 1:00 AM, "Gregg C Levine"  wrote:

> Subject: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced
> R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
> 
> HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
> HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF2 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM

These are normal. What it's telling you is that you just tried to access a
minidisk in R/W mode when another user (in this case CP) has an exclusive
R/O link. 

CF1 and CF2 are the CP minidisks that hold SYSTEM CONFIG. MAINT has R/W
links to them in it's directory entry because it needs to access them to
update them, but you have to CPRELEASE them before the R/W links will work.

This is a safety measure. Don't defeat it.


Re: mixed text in CP SMSG

2010-02-03 Thread Aisik Chang
Thank you all ! !

Ann

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Hayden  wrote:

> Put it in your exec as:
> Address Command  'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
> And if 'VMUSER' is the userid and not a variable, put it in the quotes too:
> Address Command  'CP SMSG  VMUSER'  tline
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Aisik Chang  wrote:
> > I have an exec:
> >
> > /*  */
> > tline = 'This is a testing'
> > 'CP SMSG'  VMUSER  tline
> > exit
> > 
> > VMUSER received all uppercase text.
> >  Is there was to send mixed case  with the command  CP SMSG ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ann
>
>
>
> --
> Bruce Hayden
> z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
> IBM, Endicott, NY
>


Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
On 2/2/10 9:48 PM, "O'Brien, Dennis L" 
wrote:

> Richard Schuh wrote,
>> Dennis, You said 16 hours to upload the files. Are you using a 56KB dial-up
>> connection?  >My PC is about 1000 miles from the VM system, so I thought it
>> might be slower than the >33 minutes it took. I was hoping for something
>> better than 16 hours, but I didn't >expect it to be as fast as it was.
> 
> I'm using DSL.  I ran a speed test today, and got a download speed of 2555
> kbps and an upload speed of 435 kbps.  The speed test site says the transfer
> rates are 319.4 KB/sec and 54.4 KB/sec, respectively.

Ding! Asymmetric connection.

And to think our colleagues in Japan are getting 100 Mbit/sec symmetric
connections for about $40/month.

*sigh*

-- db


Re: Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Macioce, Larry
Rich,
When we first got VM you and David were a God send to me
Sorry to see you go, but you really aren't going far
mace

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Subject: Movin On...

Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.

As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity Software,
Inc.

It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ years.  Working

with Bob Kusche has been a absolutely wonderful experience.

Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David Kreuter of 
VM Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of VM and networking and 
is a fantastic resource.

I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!

Thanks.

-- 
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Velocity Software, Inc.
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http://www.velocitysoftware.com

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WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY

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Movin On...

2010-02-03 Thread Rich Smrcina

Cross posted to vse-l, ibmvm and linux-390; sorry for dups.

As of February 1, 2010 I've taken a position with Velocity Software, Inc.

It is with a heavy heart that I leave VM Assist after 5+ years.  Working 
with Bob Kusche has been a absolutely wonderful experience.


Lately, I've also had the great pleasure to work with David Kreuter of 
VM Resources, LTD.  David has great knowledge of VM and networking and 
is a fantastic resource.


I plan to still attend SHARE and WAVV and will see you all there!

Thanks.

--
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Velocity Software, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY


Re: SFS Lock question

2010-02-03 Thread Colin Allinson
Kris Buelens  wrote :-

> You could use Q FILEPOOL CONFLICT to see wait conditions

> SFS guarantees read integrity, that is, if someone has a file in read, 
SFS keeps that image 
> of the file until the last reader closes it (this image is kept in 
shadow tables).  
> And -just tested- you can indeed ERASE the file while someone has it 
open.  
> The user reading it can just continue.

> Maybe you can to stop using the lock files by using SFS CREATE LOCK 
commands

Thanks, Kris, for your very helpful answer. 

Yes, the Q FILEPOOL CONFLICT is a good idea if I can catch it again. The 
last time it happened was at the weekend and I did not have any chance to 
investigate.

Your information on the ERASE is great - that gives me a strategy (limited 
to one simple sub EXEC on the upload server (A) ) to overcome any 
potential conflicts. 

Yes, using the SFS standard locking mechanism would have been a good idea 
if I were starting from scratch but the code in Server B would need to be 
modified to deal with finding a lock in place. As it is, it will not start 
scanning the file if the code defined lock file is in place. I want to 
avoid any changes that are too widespread due to the sensitivity of the 
application (there are daily production logs). 

Thanks anyway. I now have a way to proceed.


Colin Allinson
VM Systems Support
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH


Re: FW: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM

2010-02-03 Thread Kris Buelens
The reason is that the SYSTEM CONFIG file contains CPACCESS commands  for
MAINT CF1 and CF2, and LINKs them in the default mode fro CPACESS: STABLE.
MAINT itself has MDISK statements with most probably MR as LINK mode.  The
STABLE link established for SYSTEM via the SYSTEM CONFIG make the MR link
revert to READ and the message to appear.

No need to worry for the mlessage at logon time, but they aren't nice... So:
As I need to explain this, I do not suggest to change the link mode in
SYSTEM CONFIG, but to change the MDISK definitions of MAINT CF1 and CF2 in
the CP directory.
  From MDISK CF1   MR
  Into   MDISK CF1   RR

2010/2/3 Gregg C Levine 

> Hello!
> I haven't had a reason to post anything to the list in a very long while.
> Perhaps too long. However while going over a large amount of a backlog of
> e-mail, I came across the item below.
>
> For reasons I am unable to explain the action, the correspondent sent it
> directly to me, (then), rather then to the list, and then to me. I am
> forwarding it to the list, in hopes that someone can provide a workable
> explanation for this individual.
> --
> Gregg C Levine hansolofal...@worldnet.att.net
> "The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kraig.thelen@offutt.af.mil [mailto:
> kraig.thelen@offutt.af.mil]
>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:54 PM
> To: hansolofal...@worldnet.att.net
> Subject: Multiple messages at login to MAINT; HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced
> R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
>
> HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF1 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
> HCPLNM101E DASD 0CF2 forced R/O; R/O by SYSTEM; stable by SYSTEM
>
> I am recieving these errors while loging into the IBM Legacy Host z/VM 3.1
> system hat is running on an IBM x Series eServer model 232, it has licensed
> software form all vendors and they include FLEX-ES software as the
> underlying s390 OS thta allows z/VM and my legacy VM/SP system to run on
> top
> of SCO UNIX.
>
> Note, I just took over the position of day to day z/VM maintenance on this
> system as the previous IBM system programmer retired after 40 years and is
> unreachable.
>
> I am conserned with these errors I get when logging in to the system as
> user
> ID MAINT.
>
> The system runs fine but I am picky an hate to see messages ending with an
> E!
>
> Can this error be resolved?
>
> If So How?
>
> An IBM Redbook said to ignore it and just hit the enter key of which I have
> done for some time now, but I wish to resolve this error.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated...
>
> Please advise...
>
> Thanks!
>



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Re: SFS Lock question

2010-02-03 Thread Kris Buelens
You could use Q FILEPOOL CONFLICT to see wait conditions

SFS guarantees read integrity, that is, if someone has a file in read, SFS
keeps that image of the file until the last reader closes it (this image is
kept in shadow tables).  And -just tested- you can indeed ERASE the file
while someone has it open.  The user reading it can just continue.

Maybe you can to stop using the lock files by using SFS CREATE LOCK commands

2010/2/3 Colin Allinson 

>
> Sorry for the long preamble but I need to explain what I see happening :_
>
> I inherited an application that was not very well designed or written but
> is too complex an critical to make wholesale changes. The way it works is
> that :-
>
> 1) Server A loads a cumulative log into an SFS (file control)
> directory. Every time it sees the log has increased in size it uploads the
> new log overwriting the previous one (because it is cumulative).
>
> 2) Server B is looking in the SFS directory for log that are larger
> than it previous position pointer and it will then process the remaining
> lines of the log.
>
> 3) Server A creates lock files before it overwrites a log and
> erases them afterwards. Server B does not create any lock file when it
> starts to examine the log.
>
> 4) There are (infrequent) occasions where Server A is not only
> unable to copy the log to the SFS directory but this condition persists
> permanently until the server is recycled.  So far I have not been able to
> trap what is happening (it is infrequent) but I think it is something to do
> with an SFS lock condition that is not being cleared. A re-IPL of the server
> does clear the problem.
>
> The questions I have are :-
>
> a) Has anyone any more detailed idea what may be happening - and
> how to programmatically resolve it.?
> b) If I got Server A to rename the log and then erase it before
> uploading the new one - what would happen to Server B if it was reading the
> log at the time? Would I risk a long running lock as a result of a failed
> ERASE?
>
> Any thoughts or guidance would be welcome.
>
>
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SFS Lock question

2010-02-03 Thread Colin Allinson
Sorry for the long preamble but I need to explain what I see happening :_

I inherited an application that was not very well designed or written but 
is too complex an critical to make wholesale changes. The way it works is 
that :-

1)  Server A loads a cumulative log into an SFS (file control) 
directory. Every time it sees the log has increased in size it uploads the 
new log overwriting the previous one (because it is cumulative).

2)  Server B is looking in the SFS directory for log that are larger 
than it previous position pointer and it will then process the remaining 
lines of the log.

3)  Server A creates lock files before it overwrites a log and erases 
them afterwards. Server B does not create any lock file when it starts to 
examine the log. 

4)  There are (infrequent) occasions where Server A is not only unable 
to copy the log to the SFS directory but this condition persists 
permanently until the server is recycled.  So far I have not been able to 
trap what is happening (it is infrequent) but I think it is something to 
do with an SFS lock condition that is not being cleared. A re-IPL of the 
server does clear the problem.

The questions I have are :-

a)  Has anyone any more detailed idea what may be happening - and how 
to programmatically resolve it.?
b)  If I got Server A to rename the log and then erase it before 
uploading the new one - what would happen to Server B if it was reading 
the log at the time? Would I risk a long running lock as a result of a 
failed ERASE?

Any thoughts or guidance would be welcome.

 

Colin Allinson
VM Systems Support
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH




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