Re: zfcp questions

2010-06-08 Thread Phil Tully

Thanks for that clarification.

On 6/8/2010 2:40 PM, Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote:

IIRC, on SLES 10 that message "No configuration file for adapter 0.0.0800' is 
from the initrd doing
zfcp_disk_configure 0.0.0800 0x597208239950 0x000e 1
to put the LUN online.

mkinitrd didn't copy the unneeded file 
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800 into the initrd and 
zfcp_disk_configure issues that message when it doesn't find an existing 
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800  in the initrd to update as 
is its wont when it puts the LUN online.

So that message is expected and harmless.

I don't know about message: Cannot handle subsystem ''


   

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Philip Tully
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:30 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: zfcp questions

Hello,



I am in the beginning to implement FCP disk connections on a series of
linux
machines running SLES 10 sp2+, during startup I receive the following
series
of messages:

Configuring device 0.0.0800


scsi0 : zfcp


09:24:36 zfcp: The adapter 0.0.0800 reported the following
characteristics:


WWNN 0x5005076400caa584, WWPN 0xc05076efed800400, S_ID 0x00ab004f,


adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x2b, FC link speed 4 Gb/s


zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter
0.0.0800.


Activating zfcp disk 0.0.0800:0x597208239950:0x000e


No configuration file for adapter 0.0.0800


Configuring FCP disk 597208239950:000e



I have 2 questions:

1 The startup looks good except for the "No configuration file for
adapter
0.0.0800" message since I have the file

  /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800 included at the
bottom.

2 When I issue the command hwup 0.0.0800 I receive the following error
message:



cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # hwup 0.0.0800

Cannot handle subsystem ''



Regards,

Phil Tully







cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # cat hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800

!/bin/sh

#

# hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800

#

# Configuration for the zfcp adapter at CCW ID 0.0.0800

#



STARTMODE="auto"

MODULE="zfcp"

MODULE_OPTIONS=""

MODULE_UNLOAD="yes"



# Scripts to be called for the various events.

# If called manually the event is set to 'up'.

SCRIPTUP="hwup-ccw"

SCRIPTUP_ccw="hwup-ccw"

SCRIPTUP_scsi_host="hwup-zfcp"

SCRIPTDOWN="hwdown-scsi"

SCRIPTDOWN_scsi="hwdown-zfcp"



# Configured zfcp disks

ZFCP_LUNS="

0x597208239950:0x000e

0x597208239950:0x000f

0x597208239950:0x0010

0x597208239950:0x0012

0x597208239950:0x0014

0x597208239950:0x0016

0x597208239950:0x0017

0x597208239950:0x0018

0x597208239950:0x0019

0x597208239950:0x001a

0x597208239950:0x001b

0x597208239950:0x001c

0x597208239950:0x001d"

cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware #









 


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Re: zfcp questions

2010-06-08 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
IIRC, on SLES 10 that message "No configuration file for adapter 0.0.0800' is 
from the initrd doing
zfcp_disk_configure 0.0.0800 0x597208239950 0x000e 1
to put the LUN online.

mkinitrd didn't copy the unneeded file 
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800 into the initrd and 
zfcp_disk_configure issues that message when it doesn't find an existing 
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800  in the initrd to update as 
is its wont when it puts the LUN online.

So that message is expected and harmless.

I don't know about message: Cannot handle subsystem ''


> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Philip Tully
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:30 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: zfcp questions
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am in the beginning to implement FCP disk connections on a series of
> linux
> machines running SLES 10 sp2+, during startup I receive the following
> series
> of messages:
>
> Configuring device 0.0.0800
>
>
> scsi0 : zfcp
>
>
> 09:24:36 zfcp: The adapter 0.0.0800 reported the following
> characteristics:
>
>
> WWNN 0x5005076400caa584, WWPN 0xc05076efed800400, S_ID 0x00ab004f,
>
>
> adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x2b, FC link speed 4 Gb/s
>
>
> zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter
> 0.0.0800.
>
>
> Activating zfcp disk 0.0.0800:0x597208239950:0x000e
>
>
> No configuration file for adapter 0.0.0800
>
>
> Configuring FCP disk 597208239950:000e
>
>
>
> I have 2 questions:
>
> 1 The startup looks good except for the "No configuration file for
> adapter
> 0.0.0800" message since I have the file
>
>  /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800 included at the
> bottom.
>
> 2 When I issue the command hwup 0.0.0800 I receive the following error
> message:
>
>
>
> cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # hwup 0.0.0800
>
> Cannot handle subsystem ''
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil Tully
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # cat hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800
>
> !/bin/sh
>
> #
>
> # hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800
>
> #
>
> # Configuration for the zfcp adapter at CCW ID 0.0.0800
>
> #
>
>
>
> STARTMODE="auto"
>
> MODULE="zfcp"
>
> MODULE_OPTIONS=""
>
> MODULE_UNLOAD="yes"
>
>
>
> # Scripts to be called for the various events.
>
> # If called manually the event is set to 'up'.
>
> SCRIPTUP="hwup-ccw"
>
> SCRIPTUP_ccw="hwup-ccw"
>
> SCRIPTUP_scsi_host="hwup-zfcp"
>
> SCRIPTDOWN="hwdown-scsi"
>
> SCRIPTDOWN_scsi="hwdown-zfcp"
>
>
>
> # Configured zfcp disks
>
> ZFCP_LUNS="
>
> 0x597208239950:0x000e
>
> 0x597208239950:0x000f
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0010
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0012
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0014
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0016
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0017
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0018
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0019
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001a
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001b
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001c
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001d"
>
> cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware #
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: zfcp questions

2010-06-08 Thread Richard Troth
Phil --

I don't immediately see anything wrong with your adapter config file.
I would recommend using the scripts included in the S390 Tools
package.  In particular, ...

/sbin/zfcp_host_configure 0.0.0800 1
/sbin/zfcp_disk_configure 0l0.0800 0x597208239950
0x000e 1

The trailing "1" means "online" in both cases.  The latter statement,
of course, repeats per disk.  You may need to take everything back
down and then up again.  (Bring down the disks, one at a time, even if
they are not actually up, then bring down the adapter, then again
execute the sequence to get them all online.)

In SLES 9, you had to restamp 'mkinitrd' (and then also run 'zipl').
I have seen it go both ways with SLES 10:  Most often you don't have
to redo 'mkinitrd' and 'zipl', but other times it seems like you have
to do them or the disks are not present after reboot.

-- Rick;   <><





On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:29, Philip Tully  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am in the beginning to implement FCP disk connections on a series of linux
> machines running SLES 10 sp2+, during startup I receive the following series
> of messages:
>
> Configuring device 0.0.0800
>
>
> scsi0 : zfcp
>
>
> 09:24:36 zfcp: The adapter 0.0.0800 reported the following characteristics:
>
>
> WWNN 0x5005076400caa584, WWPN 0xc05076efed800400, S_ID 0x00ab004f,
>
>
> adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x2b, FC link speed 4 Gb/s
>
>
> zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.0800.
>
>
> Activating zfcp disk 0.0.0800:0x597208239950:0x000e
>
>
> No configuration file for adapter 0.0.0800
>
>
> Configuring FCP disk 597208239950:000e
>
>
>
> I have 2 questions:
>
> 1 The startup looks good except for the “No configuration file for adapter
> 0.0.0800” message since I have the file
>
>  /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800 included at the bottom.
>
> 2 When I issue the command hwup 0.0.0800 I receive the following error 
> message:
>
>
>
> cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # hwup 0.0.0800
>
> Cannot handle subsystem ''
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil Tully
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # cat hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800
>
> !/bin/sh
>
> #
>
> # hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800
>
> #
>
> # Configuration for the zfcp adapter at CCW ID 0.0.0800
>
> #
>
>
>
> STARTMODE="auto"
>
> MODULE="zfcp"
>
> MODULE_OPTIONS=""
>
> MODULE_UNLOAD="yes"
>
>
>
> # Scripts to be called for the various events.
>
> # If called manually the event is set to 'up'.
>
> SCRIPTUP="hwup-ccw"
>
> SCRIPTUP_ccw="hwup-ccw"
>
> SCRIPTUP_scsi_host="hwup-zfcp"
>
> SCRIPTDOWN="hwdown-scsi"
>
> SCRIPTDOWN_scsi="hwdown-zfcp"
>
>
>
> # Configured zfcp disks
>
> ZFCP_LUNS="
>
> 0x597208239950:0x000e
>
> 0x597208239950:0x000f
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0010
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0012
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0014
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0016
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0017
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0018
>
> 0x597208239950:0x0019
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001a
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001b
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001c
>
> 0x597208239950:0x001d"
>
> cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware #
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: MONDCSS segment update

2010-06-08 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Got it.  Thanks for all the help.

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Dean, David (I/S)
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:16 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

Have the nss segment done
Have monwrite user set up
Doing xautolog monwrite from maint
Why does it keep saying inactive??


q mon
MONITOR EVENT INACTIVEBLOCK4 PARTITION0
MONITOR DCSS NAME - MONDCSS
CONFIGURATION SIZE   68 LIMIT 1 MINUTES
CONFIGURATION AREA IS FREE
USERS CONNECTED TO *MONITOR - MONWRITE   PENDING-CONFIG



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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Dean, David (I/S)
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

I am positive I did not do what I want.  I can kill the users since they are 
part of this project.  If I do that and run saveseq mondcss will this 
straighten it out? 



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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:30 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S)  wrote:
> Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how 
> do I get rid of one?

No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will
activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you
can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to
*MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so).
And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not
sure you did what you wanted to do.

Rob

>
>
> 0011 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  R  2   N/A       N/A
> 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS       N/A    01F00  01FFF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0009 CMSFILES DCSS       N/A    01900  01BFF   SR  A  3   N/A       N/A
> 0008 SVM      DCSS       N/A    01900  019FF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS       N/A    01800  018FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0005 INSTSEG  DCSS       N/A    01400  016FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0003 DOSINST  DCSS       N/A    00900  0090F   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0038 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  S  0   N/A       N/A
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Barton Robinson
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update
>
> Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so
> the monitor does need to stop and start.
>
> Dean, David (I/S) wrote:
>> Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run
>> over memory being used somewhere else?
>>
>> David M. Dean
>> Information Systems
>> BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: MONDCSS segment update

2010-06-08 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Have the nss segment done
Have monwrite user set up
Doing xautolog monwrite from maint
Why does it keep saying inactive??


q mon
MONITOR EVENT INACTIVEBLOCK4 PARTITION0
MONITOR DCSS NAME - MONDCSS
CONFIGURATION SIZE   68 LIMIT 1 MINUTES
CONFIGURATION AREA IS FREE
USERS CONNECTED TO *MONITOR - MONWRITE   PENDING-CONFIG



-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Dean, David (I/S)
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

I am positive I did not do what I want.  I can kill the users since they are 
part of this project.  If I do that and run saveseq mondcss will this 
straighten it out? 



-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:30 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S)  wrote:
> Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how 
> do I get rid of one?

No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will
activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you
can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to
*MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so).
And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not
sure you did what you wanted to do.

Rob

>
>
> 0011 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  R  2   N/A       N/A
> 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS       N/A    01F00  01FFF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0009 CMSFILES DCSS       N/A    01900  01BFF   SR  A  3   N/A       N/A
> 0008 SVM      DCSS       N/A    01900  019FF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS       N/A    01800  018FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0005 INSTSEG  DCSS       N/A    01400  016FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0003 DOSINST  DCSS       N/A    00900  0090F   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0038 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  S  0   N/A       N/A
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Barton Robinson
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update
>
> Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so
> the monitor does need to stop and start.
>
> Dean, David (I/S) wrote:
>> Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run
>> over memory being used somewhere else?
>>
>> David M. Dean
>> Information Systems
>> BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 
>> E-mail disclaimer:  http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
> -
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>



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zfcp questions

2010-06-08 Thread Philip Tully
Hello,

 

I am in the beginning to implement FCP disk connections on a series of li
nux
machines running SLES 10 sp2+, during startup I receive the following ser
ies
of messages:

Configuring device 0.0.0800
 
   
 
 
  

scsi0 : zfcp 
 
 
 
 
  

09:24:36 zfcp: The adapter 0.0.0800 reported the following characteristic
s:
 
 
  

WWNN 0x5005076400caa584, WWPN 0xc05076efed800400, S_ID 0x00ab004f,   
  
 
 
  

adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x2b, FC link speed 4 Gb/s 
   
 
 
  

zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.0800. 
  
 
 
  

Activating zfcp disk 0.0.0800:0x597208239950:0x000e  
  
 
 
  

No configuration file for adapter 0.0.0800   
  
 
 
  

Configuring FCP disk 597208239950:000e

 

I have 2 questions: 

1 The startup looks good except for the “No configuration file for adap
ter
0.0.0800” message since I have the file 

 /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800 included at the bott
om.

2 When I issue the command hwup 0.0.0800 I receive the following error me
ssage:

 

cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # hwup 0.0.0800

Cannot handle subsystem ''

 

Regards,

Phil Tully

 

 

 

cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # cat hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800

!/bin/sh

#

# hwcfg-zfcp-bus-ccw-0.0.0800

#

# Configuration for the zfcp adapter at CCW ID 0.0.0800

#

 

STARTMODE="auto"

MODULE="zfcp"

MODULE_OPTIONS=""

MODULE_UNLOAD="yes"

 

# Scripts to be called for the various events.

# If called manually the event is set to 'up'.

SCRIPTUP="hwup-ccw"

SCRIPTUP_ccw="hwup-ccw"

SCRIPTUP_scsi_host="hwup-zfcp"

SCRIPTDOWN="hwdown-scsi"

SCRIPTDOWN_scsi="hwdown-zfcp"

 

# Configured zfcp disks

ZFCP_LUNS="

0x597208239950:0x000e

0x597208239950:0x000f

0x597208239950:0x0010

0x597208239950:0x0012

0x597208239950:0x0014

0x597208239950:0x0016

0x597208239950:0x0017

0x597208239950:0x0018

0x597208239950:0x0019

0x597208239950:0x001a

0x597208239950:0x001b

0x597208239950:0x001c

0x597208239950:0x001d"

cdlvmeng001:/etc/sysconfig/hardware #

 

 

 
 

 


Re: MONDCSS segment update

2010-06-08 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
I am positive I did not do what I want.  I can kill the users since they are 
part of this project.  If I do that and run saveseq mondcss will this 
straighten it out? 



-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:30 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S)  wrote:
> Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how 
> do I get rid of one?

No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will
activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you
can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to
*MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so).
And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not
sure you did what you wanted to do.

Rob

>
>
> 0011 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  R  2   N/A       N/A
> 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS       N/A    01F00  01FFF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0009 CMSFILES DCSS       N/A    01900  01BFF   SR  A  3   N/A       N/A
> 0008 SVM      DCSS       N/A    01900  019FF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS       N/A    01800  018FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0005 INSTSEG  DCSS       N/A    01400  016FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0003 DOSINST  DCSS       N/A    00900  0090F   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0038 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  S  0   N/A       N/A
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Barton Robinson
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update
>
> Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so
> the monitor does need to stop and start.
>
> Dean, David (I/S) wrote:
>> Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run
>> over memory being used somewhere else?
>>
>> David M. Dean
>> Information Systems
>> BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee
>>
>>
>>
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Re: MONDCSS segment update

2010-06-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S)  wrote:
> Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how 
> do I get rid of one?

No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will
activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you
can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to
*MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so).
And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not
sure you did what you wanted to do.

Rob

>
>
> 0011 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  R  2   N/A       N/A
> 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS       N/A    01F00  01FFF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0009 CMSFILES DCSS       N/A    01900  01BFF   SR  A  3   N/A       N/A
> 0008 SVM      DCSS       N/A    01900  019FF   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS       N/A    01800  018FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0005 INSTSEG  DCSS       N/A    01400  016FF   SR  A  9   N/A       N/A
> 0003 DOSINST  DCSS       N/A    00900  0090F   SR  A  0   N/A       N/A
> 0038 MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    09000  09FFF   SC  S  0   N/A       N/A
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Barton Robinson
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update
>
> Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so
> the monitor does need to stop and start.
>
> Dean, David (I/S) wrote:
>> Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run
>> over memory being used somewhere else?
>>
>> David M. Dean
>> Information Systems
>> BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 
>> E-mail disclaimer:  http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
> -
> Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 
> E-mail disclaimer:  http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
>



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Re: MONDCSS segment update

2010-06-08 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how do 
I get rid of one?  


0011 MONDCSS  CPDCSS N/A09000  09FFF   SC  R  2   N/A   N/A
0010 GUICSLIB DCSS   N/A01F00  01FFF   SR  A  0   N/A   N/A
0009 CMSFILES DCSS   N/A01900  01BFF   SR  A  3   N/A   N/A
0008 SVM  DCSS   N/A01900  019FF   SR  A  0   N/A   N/A
0007 CMSPIPES DCSS   N/A01800  018FF   SR  A  9   N/A   N/A
0005 INSTSEG  DCSS   N/A01400  016FF   SR  A  9   N/A   N/A
0003 DOSINST  DCSS   N/A00900  0090F   SR  A  0   N/A   N/A
0038 MONDCSS  CPDCSS N/A09000  09FFF   SC  S  0   N/A   N/A

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Barton Robinson
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update

Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so 
the monitor does need to stop and start.

Dean, David (I/S) wrote:
> Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run 
> over memory being used somewhere else?
>  
> David M. Dean
> Information Systems
> BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee
>  
>  
>  
> 
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Re: Automated Logoff of CMS user

2010-06-08 Thread Michael Coffin
 

Of course, VM's ability to disconnect the session from the virtual machine 

accomplishes the same thing, but it's rather heavy handed.

 

Alan Altmark

z/VM Development

IBM Endicott

 

  _  

 

There are actually two different controls being discussed here (both under
NIST SP 800-53):

 


1.1.1AC-11:  Session Lock


 


NIST SP 800-53 Control:  The information system prevents further access to
the system by initiating a session lock that remains in effect until the
user reestablishes access using appropriate identification and
authentication procedures.





NIST SP 800-53 Control Enhancements:  None.

 

We have successfully argued that the workstation screensaver provides this
functionality and satisfies this control.  Hence, it is an inherited
control.

 


1.1.2AC-12:  Session Termination


 


NIST SP 800-53 Control:  The information system automatically terminates a
session after 15 minutes of inactivity.





NIST SP 800-53 Control Enhancements:  None.

 

We argued that, in it's literal sense, Session Termination means forcing the
z/VM virtual machine off (not FORCE DSC, since the "session" is arguably
still active when disconnected), and that this "heavy handed" action would
result in potential data loss and lost work (e.g. open Xedit sessions,
TDisk/VDisk usage, etc. - any number of things).  We were not successful in
getting (Federal) auditors to waive the requirement, but once they
understood the environment they agreed that taking such action is
inappropriate in a z/VM environment.  We took what is called a "Risk Based
Decision" (RBD) that can be easily defended to both Management and Security
types.

 

 

 

It's very unfortunate, but these "security standards" that ALL Information
Systems are supposed to adhere to were written WITHOUT consideration of
individual platform architecture(s) and capabilities.  We spend the majority
of our time during Federal security audits explaining WHY the control is not
applicable to z/VM systems.

 

One of my favorites is the requirement to regularly run software approved
for the purpose of identifying and controlling "malicious code".  There is
no such thing in a z/VM CMS environment, since there is no "malicious code"
no "malicious code scanning program" has ever been written.  We always have
to take an RBD on a control this simply does not apply, and spend hours
explaining how "files" might be transmitted to a virtual machine, but
require explicit user interaction to load/run them and/or receive them from
the virtual card reader.  

 

Federal audits are NOT fun, Federal audits of z/VM systems are the hardest
of the bunch!  J

 

-Mike



Re: Help - Help

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, Bob.  I found that I was accessing Maint's 401 disk.  Removing the
access fixed the problem.
My comment in the profile exec for this disk does not match what it is
really for.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Bob Bates wrote:

>  First thing I would do it check the disks that are accessed from that id.
> Logon and do AC ( NODISK at the prompt, or if you don't get the prompt IPL
> CMS then do the AC ( NODISK. Try HELP and see if you still get the problem.
> Then I would start accessing things you normally have and keep trying the
> HELP command until it shows up again.
>
> In short take it one step at a  time until it breaks.
>
>
> Bob Bates
> Enterprise Hosting Services
>
> w. (469)892-6660
> c. (214) 907-5071
>
> *“This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information.  If
> you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee,
> you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message
> or any information herein.  If you have received this message in error,
> please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this
> message.  Thank you for your cooperation."*
>
>
>
>  --
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Pace
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:35 AM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Help - Help
>
> I've done something to my CMS id and now all my help looks odd.  I don't
> know what I've changed, and so don't know how to fix it.
>
> HELP CP
>   COMMANDS CP   All Help
> Information
> (c) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2009
>
>
>
>  CP
>
>
>
>
>  
> >>--CP--.-.-><
>  '-command-'
>
>
>
>  "çüç["
>
>
>
> "á ñîä¡äìäEäì"
>
>
>
>  "ãÍáÕ"
>
>
>
>  CMS"¢¾¢nàªàuàuàòäà"z/VM"ãDãqäPä¨äBä[äw¢¾¢nàpä«äuä]äóàãåêåààþà®ànàgà¸"CP
>
> "ä«äuä]äóàãç¶á¶àýàuàþä "
>
>
> I assumed my Language was messed up, but
>  q language
> AMENG
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:32:28
>
> This is the only CMS id that has this problem.  The others I've logged onto
> show Help correctly.
> Do'es anyone have a clue how to fix this?
>
> z/VM 6.1 - 1002
>
> --
> Mark Pace
> Mainline Information Systems
> 1700 Summit Lake Drive
> Tallahassee, FL. 32317
>



-- 
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317


Re: Help - Help

2010-06-08 Thread Bob Bates
First thing I would do it check the disks that are accessed from that id. Logon 
and do AC ( NODISK at the prompt, or if you don't get the prompt IPL CMS then 
do the AC ( NODISK. Try HELP and see if you still get the problem. Then I would 
start accessing things you normally have and keep trying the HELP command until 
it shows up again.

In short take it one step at a  time until it breaks.


Bob Bates
Enterprise Hosting Services

w. (469)892-6660
c. (214) 907-5071

"This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information.  If you 
are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must 
not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any 
information herein.  If you have received this message in error, please advise 
the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message.  Thank you for 
your cooperation."




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Mark Pace
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:35 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Help - Help

I've done something to my CMS id and now all my help looks odd.  I don't know 
what I've changed, and so don't know how to fix it.

HELP CP
 COMMANDS CP   All Help Information
(c) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2009

 CP

 >>--CP--.-.-><
 '-command-'

 "çüç["

"á ñîä¡äìäEäì"

 "ãÍáÕ"

 CMS"¢¾¢nàªàuàuàòäà"z/VM"ãDãqäPä¨äBä[äw¢¾¢nàpä«äuä]äóàãåêåààþà®ànàgà¸"CP
"ä«äuä]äóàãç¶á¶àýàuàþä "

I assumed my Language was messed up, but
q language
AMENG
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:32:28

This is the only CMS id that has this problem.  The others I've logged onto 
show Help correctly.
Do'es anyone have a clue how to fix this?

z/VM 6.1 - 1002

--
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317


Help - Help

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Pace
I've done something to my CMS id and now all my help looks odd.  I don't
know what I've changed, and so don't know how to fix it.

HELP CP
 COMMANDS CP   All Help
Information
(c) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2009



 CP



 >>--CP--.-.-><
 '-command-'



 "çüç["



"á ñîä¡äìäEäì"



 "ãÍáÕ"



 CMS"¢¾¢nàªàuàuàòäà"z/VM"ãDãqäPä¨äBä[äw¢¾¢nàpä«äuä]äóàãåêåààþà®ànàgà¸"CP

"ä«äuä]äóàãç¶á¶àýàuàþä "


I assumed my Language was messed up, but
q language
AMENG
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:32:28

This is the only CMS id that has this problem.  The others I've logged onto
show Help correctly.
Do'es anyone have a clue how to fix this?

z/VM 6.1 - 1002

-- 
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317