Re: August SHARE location?

2011-01-10 Thread zMan
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Hodge, Robert L
 wrote:
> Second paragraph at www.share.org

February 27 = "very, VERY early August"
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Re: August SHARE location?

2011-01-10 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Second paragraph at www.share.org

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Subject: EXTERNAL: August SHARE location?

Has the location for the August SHARE been announced?  If it has, it's not on 
the SHARE web site.


    Dennis

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Re: August SHARE location?

2011-01-10 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Sorry, I misunderstood. It hasn't been announced yet. 

http://www.share.org/Events/FutureConferences/tabid/127/Default.aspx

-Original Message-
From: Hodge, Robert L 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:20 PM
To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System'
Subject: RE: August SHARE location?

Second paragraph at www.share.org

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of O'Brien, Dennis L
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:11 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: EXTERNAL: August SHARE location?

Has the location for the August SHARE been announced?  If it has, it's not on 
the SHARE web site.


    Dennis

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and more time getting salt on the streets, New York roads might have been 
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August SHARE location?

2011-01-10 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Has the location for the August SHARE been announced?  If it has, it's not on 
the SHARE web site.


    Dennis

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and more time getting salt on the streets, New York roads might have been 
passable this week.."  -- Eric Felten, in The Wall Street Journal



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Re: CMDCOB PIPE looking for CBL

2011-01-10 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:08:33 -0500, Rich Greenberg  wrot
e:

>On: Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:45:29PM +0300,Sergio Lima Wrote:
>
>} We have a program here, got from this list, that is very usefull for u
s.
>} Unfortunatelly I don't remember the author of this program, may be 
Kris...
>} This program is wrote using PIPE command, and FIND all CALL 
instructions in all programas with FILETYPE of COBOL.
>} We already use this same program for FIND the EXEC commands in all JCL
 
here, and run very well.
>} Now, We need, locate the CBL commands, and my program don't want work.

>} The code is here : (A piece)
>
>} '| LOCATE ANYCASE 8-* / CALL /', /* Look for CALL Commands */
>
>This LOCATE is looking for blankCALL starting in col 8.  Suppose the
>CALL is in col 8, no match.
>
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COBOL has two types of "CBL" statements.  "CBL" contains COBOL Compiler 

Options and must start in column 8 or later and must end before column 72
 
and must appear in the program before the ID Division and before any 
comment records, (basically "CBL" must be first).  There can be 
multiple "CBL" statements if needed.  "CBL" can also be entered 
as "PROCESS" so you you would have have to look for either one of them. 
 
Either a multi-stream pipeline would have to be contructed or you 
could "cheat" :-) by using an ALL Pipe stage.  ALL unfortunately does not
 
support the ANYCASE parm or column ranges, but you could replace the 
LOCATE ANYCASE stage with:
'| ZONE 8-* CASEI ALL / CBL /!/ PROCESS /'

The other COBOL "CBL" statement is "*CBL" and is used to control the 
listing generated by the COBOL compiler.  "*CBL" must start in column 7 o
r 
later and can also be coded as "*CONTROL".  If that is what you are 
looking for, then you would need to replace both the 
'| NLOCATE 8 /*/',  
'| LOCATE ANYCASE 8-* / CALL /',
with
'| ZONE 8-* CASEI ALL /*CBL /!/*CONTROL /'

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Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread David Boyes
On 1/10/11 11:57 AM, "Jeff Gribbin"  wrote:

>Thanks guys - never would have found that by myself. ZArchitecture POP is
>n't
>exactly explicit on the matter but from a reading of SHUTTRAP and a readi
>ng
>of POP I now see it to be a form of the Service Signal External Interrupt
>.

Yeah. "Opaque" is a good word for it.

I submitted a RCF for the POP to note that SSEI is the vehicle used by
several OSes to trigger automated controlled shutdown from external
signal. No response yet, but at least the question has been asked. 


Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Jeff Gribbin
> Just a question of courosity, are you interested in a CMS application or are
> you looking for something in a different OS, ie zLINUX or zVSE?

I'm currently writing a z/VM Overview course and - once again - the
truism that, 'the best way to learn a subject is to teach it' applies
... I've known for a long time that the signalling mechanism exists
and I've even recently learned how to configure Linux to respond to
it, but I've never before had occasion to want to look into the
specifics of how it works. (I had assumed some kind of external or
machine-check interrupt, but didn't actually KNOW.)

It's so much better as a teacher to be able to say unequivocally, 'CP
virtualizes the LPAR Deactivation process which uses an External
Interrupt to signal to the guest that it needs to close' than,
'Somehow by some kind of magic that I do not fully know but which we
do not need to understand, CP tells the guest to close'.

It's also nice to simply, 'know' these things - I HATE, 'magic'.


Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Huegel
Jeff,
Just a question of courosity, are you interested in a CMS application or are
you looking for something in a different OS, ie zLINUX or zVSE?

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Neale Ferguson wrote:

> And POP won’t tell you how to use the SERVC operation to register that you
> want to receive that particular signal.
>
>
>
> On 1/10/11 11:57 AM, "Jeff Gribbin"  wrote:
>
>   Thanks guys - never would have found that by myself. ZArchitecture POP
> is
> n't
> exactly explicit on the matter but from a reading of SHUTTRAP and a readi
> ng
> of POP I now see it to be a form of the Service Signal External Interrupt
> .
>
> Happily I don't need to code a handler solely from the information provid
> ed
> in POP - to do so would, I feel, be  "challenging".
>
> Another one bites the dust :-)
>
>


Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Neale Ferguson
And POP won't tell you how to use the SERVC operation to register that you want 
to receive that particular signal.


On 1/10/11 11:57 AM, "Jeff Gribbin"  wrote:

Thanks guys - never would have found that by myself. ZArchitecture POP is
n't
exactly explicit on the matter but from a reading of SHUTTRAP and a readi
ng
of POP I now see it to be a form of the Service Signal External Interrupt
.

Happily I don't need to code a handler solely from the information provid
ed
in POP - to do so would, I feel, be  "challenging".

Another one bites the dust :-)



Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Jeff Gribbin
Thanks guys - never would have found that by myself. ZArchitecture POP is
n't
exactly explicit on the matter but from a reading of SHUTTRAP and a readi
ng
of POP I now see it to be a form of the Service Signal External Interrupt
.

Happily I don't need to code a handler solely from the information provid
ed
in POP - to do so would, I feel, be  "challenging".

Another one bites the dust :-)


Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Huegel
On the VM Download Page there is a package 'SHUTTRAP' that includes an
assembler program that receives the shutdown signal and takes action.
If you are assembler minded this is a good place to look to se what
happens.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Jeff Gribbin wrote:

> I've been hunting the doc's for more detail on how SIGNAL SHUTDOWN actually
> works - assuming that somewhere the process would be documented in terms of
> what the to-be-signalled guest has to do to establish the environment and
> how CP actually transmits the signal to the said guest.
>
> So far no luck - it's either in none of the, 'obvious' places or I've
> missed it.
>
> Would some kind soul that knows the answer please point me to the
> appropriate doc?  No need to describe the process here - a pointer is
> really
> exactly and all that I need.
>
> With thanks once again in anticipation.
>
> Jeff G.
>


Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread David Boyes
On 1/10/11 10:24 AM, "Jeff Gribbin"  wrote:

>I've been hunting the doc's for more detail on how SIGNAL SHUTDOWN actual
>ly
>works - assuming that somewhere the process would be documented in terms
>of
>what the to-be-signalled guest has to do to establish the environment and
>
>how CP actually transmits the signal to the said guest.
>
>So far no luck - it's either in none of the, 'obvious' places or I've mis
>sed it.

It's a particular type of external interrupt. The POP has the description
(it's the LPAR deactivation external interrupt). The guest has to set up
to react to that interrupt.

See the SHUTTRAP package on the VM Download library for the least ugly
description of what needs to be done.

-- db


Re: Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Neale Ferguson
Go to VM download site (www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages) and look for 
SHUTTRAP. It will show you what needs to be done.


On 1/10/11 10:24 AM, "Jeff Gribbin"  wrote:

I've been hunting the doc's for more detail on how SIGNAL SHUTDOWN actual
ly
works - assuming that somewhere the process would be documented in terms
of
what the to-be-signalled guest has to do to establish the environment and

how CP actually transmits the signal to the said guest.

So far no luck - it's either in none of the, 'obvious' places or I've mis
sed it.

Would some kind soul that knows the answer please point me to the
appropriate doc?  No need to describe the process here - a pointer is rea
lly
exactly and all that I need.

With thanks once again in anticipation.

Jeff G.



Another Info Request: SIGNAL SHUTDOWN process ...

2011-01-10 Thread Jeff Gribbin
I've been hunting the doc's for more detail on how SIGNAL SHUTDOWN actual
ly
works - assuming that somewhere the process would be documented in terms 
of
what the to-be-signalled guest has to do to establish the environment and

how CP actually transmits the signal to the said guest.

So far no luck - it's either in none of the, 'obvious' places or I've mis
sed it.

Would some kind soul that knows the answer please point me to the
appropriate doc?  No need to describe the process here - a pointer is rea
lly
exactly and all that I need.

With thanks once again in anticipation.

Jeff G.