Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

[Aria Bamdad]

I just set this up a few months ago.  It is very easy to do.  This is the 
manual I used :

 

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2ac9716b1992e4e0b85257554005ca806
 

 &aid=1

 

Aria

 

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Subject: Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

 

ty, Kris, I am trying to setup RSF (Remote Support Facility) fot our new z/196 
coming in soon and need to make one of the HMC adapters available to the IBM 
Support System via the internet. 





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My recent experience also shows that you need to obey the design:
- there is a private network between the HMC and both SEs
- it must not be part of your own LAN to get remote access to the HMC.
I had a case that was not set up well: there was only one LAN.  After applying 
some maintenance to the HMC and/or SEs, many things stopped working.

2011/1/19 Frank M. Ramaekers  
Each SE has an IP address (I think the zSeries has always had two SE’s). 

  

  


Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. 

 

  

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ty, Mark, this is very helpful. 

Does an SE have more than 1 IP address as well? 


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The SEs each have an IP address, and the HMC has an IP address on their own 
private network.  The HMC may also have another NIC that can be connected to 
another network, say to reach the outside world, or allow you to access from 
your own private network.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:00 AM, George Henke/NYLIC 
 wrote: 
HMC emulates an SE, but does it have separate IP addresses, separate 
interfaces, or are they the same as the SE? 

Does the SE have IP addresses or are they only for the HMC? 



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Re: DISKACNT records

[Aria Bamdad]

You must login to an account with Class A or E privilege.  Logon to MAINT
and issue from there. 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: DISKACNT records



cp q journal   

HCPJRL003E Invalid option - JOURNAL

Ready(3); T=0.01/0.01 10:29:11






Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.





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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: DISKACNT records



Is it possible you have turned off Journaling Facility?  Issue CP Q JOURNAL
and check your SYSTEM CONFIG file.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DISKACNT records



I'm only finding '01', '02' (mostly) and '0B' records generated.   I was
hoping for some '04' records.

Does anyone know why I wouldn't get any of these?  (password violations)




 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.




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Re: DISKACNT records

[Aria Bamdad]

Is it possible you have turned off Journaling Facility?  Issue CP Q JOURNAL
and check your SYSTEM CONFIG file.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DISKACNT records



I'm only finding '01', '02' (mostly) and '0B' records generated.   I was
hoping for some '04' records.

Does anyone know why I wouldn't get any of these?  (password violations)




 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.




Systems Programmer

MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE


American Income Life Insurance Co.

Phone: (254)761-6649


1200 Wooded Acres Dr.

Fax: (254)741-5777


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HIPER MCL for z10 processors

[Aria Bamdad]

Cross posted to IBMVM and Linux-390 lists.



FYI :



Last Friday there was a Hiper MCL released for z10 processors that addresses
Linux guests running under z10 processors.  If you have not seen it, you may
want to investigate and have your CE apply the update.



You can login to the IBM Resource Link site to view the HIPER .



Aria

Re: OSAExpress3

[Aria Bamdad]

This is a bit unrelated to your questions but one major difference between
the OSA2 and OSA3 100-Base-T card is that if you define a port on the OSA3
as an OSC channel for use as an OSA-ICC, then the second port on the card is
disabled and will not be used as an OSD or OSE type device.  Basically, one
port will be wasted.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Pace
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:30 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: OSAExpress3



I hope someone can confirm for me the difference between OSA2 and OSA3.
Next week I will be receiving a z10 to replace a z9. For the sake of
simplicity lets say I had 1 OSA2.  That would be 2 ports or 2 CHPIDs.  On
those CHPIDs I have 3 addresses each CHPID 1  100-103  -  CHPID 2  200-203.
Each CHPID is attached to a different network. So I know in TCPIP if I want
to go to one network I use a specific set of addresses and if I want to go
to the other network I use the other set of address.

Now the z10 is coming.  The OSA2 has been replaced with an OSA3 1000-baseT
-2P.   So now I have 1 CHPID with 2 ports. IF, and it's a big IF, I
understand how it works, I can still create the 2 address ranges on the 1
CHPID.  Port 0 goes to one network,  Port 1 goes to another network.  Then I
use the PORTNAME parameter on the Device Statement to determine which
network I want to get to.  What I'm having a hard time with is now is how do
I associate which port number is which PORTNAME.

-- 
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317

Re: SPXTAPE

[Aria Bamdad]

In addition to what Mike said, keep in mind that you can change the spool
volume name without having to dump all of your spool and reload.  As long as
keep the same slot numbers, you can re-label the volume.  Update your SYSTEM
CONFIG with the new label, shutdown, re-label the volume, IPL.  I am pretty
sure this will work but you must test carefully.



Aria

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:34 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SPXTAPE



Hi



If I use SPXTAPE to DUMP my spool volumes can I load them back to spool
volumes with different names?



Thank You,



Terry Martin

Lockheed Martin - Citic

z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support

Office - 443 348-2102

Cell - 443 632-4191

Re: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?

[Aria Bamdad]

Ok, I think by balanced or unbalanced they mean the amount of current draw
on an electrical panel or supply.  If you have a single phase, by definition
it is unbalanced since there is nothing to balance.  However, with more than
one phase, you can try to draw similarly between them.



The z10-BC Physical Planning manual (GC28-6875-03) has a section on
'Balancing power panel loads'.  In there it says:



"For z10 BC models that use three phase power, depending on the system

configuration, the phase currents can be fully balanced or unbalanced. For
each

possible drawer configuration (processor and I/O combinations), any given
system

presents a balanced or unbalanced load. If several unbalanced system

configurations are fed from the same power panel, the load on that panel
will be

unbalanced. Two phase currents will be equal and both will be, nominally,
57.8% of

the current on the third phase."



I think it's clear now.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of P S
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:19 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?



On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Aria Bamdad  wrote:

I am not totally clear as to what balanced and unbalanced power means.  I
plan to find out tomorrow when I speak to my CE.  Looking online and doing a
search for "balanced power systems" makes me think that it has something to
do with the current draw on each phase.  Being single phase, I can
understand why it cannot be balanced.  If I find the true answer, I will
post here. 



The more important thing is that it seems that with single phase power, you
cannot have beyond a specific amount of I/O drawers.

Indeed, I did notice that! Thanks, will be interesting to hear. With only
one phase, wouldn't it be balanced by definition -- how can you draw
differently on other phases that don't exist? :-) 

Re: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?

[Aria Bamdad]

I am not totally clear as to what balanced and unbalanced power means.  I
plan to find out tomorrow when I speak to my CE.  Looking online and doing a
search for "balanced power systems" makes me think that it has something to
do with the current draw on each phase.  Being single phase, I can
understand why it cannot be balanced.  If I find the true answer, I will
post here. 



The more important thing is that it seems that with single phase power, you
cannot have beyond a specific amount of I/O drawers.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of P S
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:58 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?



On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Aria Bamdad  wrote:

The question below was asked back in May with no real answer.  I recently
ran into a section in an IBM z10-BC systems assurance document (SA08-006)
that says:

3.5.1 Important Power Selection Considerations
As you select features for your z10 BC server, be aware of the following
when
choosing server power:
. If you choose single phase power, you can have a maximum of two I/O
drawers.
. If you choose single phase power, you will have unbalanced power.
. If you choose three phase power, you may have either balanced or
unbalanced power, depending on server configuration.
. If you choose three phase power, you can guarantee balanced power by
selecting FC3002, Balanced Power Plan Ahead. This feature adds two more
Bulk Power Regulators to each side of the power supplies, assuring adequate
and balanced power for all possible configurations.

So, something like the above may apply to a z890 as the original question
referenced.


What is "unbalanced" power? The Senate without the House? Congress without
the Supreme Court? Seriously, though -- what does it mean? 

Re: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?

[Aria Bamdad]

The question below was asked back in May with no real answer.  I recently
ran into a section in an IBM z10-BC systems assurance document (SA08-006)
that says:

3.5.1 Important Power Selection Considerations
As you select features for your z10 BC server, be aware of the following
when
choosing server power:
. If you choose single phase power, you can have a maximum of two I/O
drawers.
. If you choose single phase power, you will have unbalanced power.
. If you choose three phase power, you may have either balanced or
unbalanced power, depending on server configuration.
. If you choose three phase power, you can guarantee balanced power by
selecting FC3002, Balanced Power Plan Ahead. This feature adds two more
Bulk Power Regulators to each side of the power supplies, assuring adequate
and balanced power for all possible configurations.

So, something like the above may apply to a z890 as the original question
referenced.

Aria

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Brian Nielsen
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:42 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?
> 
> We're looking at power options for a z890 in a backup datacenter.  The
> Installation and Planning manual says that the z890 can run off either
> single phase or three phase power.  The site cost for a three phase
> supply
> is more than the cost for a single phase supply.  I understand what
> single
> and three phase power are (thanks Google), I just don't understand, and
> havn't been able to find, what the trade-offs/compromises are other
> than
> the cost.  This leaves me unable to evaluate the cost benefit of 3
> phase
> vs 1 phase, and hence make a recommendation.  Any help would be
> appreciated.  Reference to source material would be great.
> 
> Brian Nielsen

Re: postscript to pdf

[Aria Bamdad]

Others have mentioned various options on doing this.  For the record, I had
to setup something similar years ago to convert PS files to PDF.  What I did
was setup a PC with Adobe Acrobat and an FTP server.  In Acrobat you can
define a directory where a batch automated conversion will be performed for
any file that is placed in the directory.  The resulting output (PDF) will
be placed in an output directory.  Using this, I wrote an EXEC that would
transfer the PS file from CMS to the PC, and then transfer back the
resulting PDF.  Worked flawlessly.  It is not a pure CMS application
however.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: postscript to pdf



Does anyone know of a program/utility/whatever that will run on VM that will
convert a postscript file to a pdf file?  I know there is an html to pdf;
that is not what I want.  Ideally, it would be written in Rexx and/or
assembler.  I also have Cobol available and C+ on the mainframe.

I've googled but haven't come up with much.

Thanks,

Steve

Re: SET CONFIGMODE ON fails

[Aria Bamdad]

Kris,



This should work fine on a z800.  When you updated the activation profile on
the HMC, are you sure you updated the profile that was assigned to be loaded
at power on?  Go to the same activation profile screen where you selected
Allow Dynamic I/O checkbox and make sure the 'Assign Profile' button is
pushed.  Once you click Assign Profile, you will see a blue text next to the
profile name that says something like 'Selected for Activation'.  If this is
not there right now, it means you did not activate with the profile you made
the change on.  Once you select this profile for activation, you have to
perform another power-on-reset.



Aria



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:05 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SET CONFIGMODE ON fails



I'm working on an old z800 machine for backup Recovery, that is running in
basic mode (no LPARs).  And SET CONFIGMODE ON fails: 
set configmode on   
HCPCCO6816E Dynamic I/O changes are not allowed on this system  
Ready(06816); T=0.01/0.01 16:12:18

On the HMC, I turned on "allow dynamic I/O configuration changes" in the
Activation profile, I performed a Power-on-Reset.  But still, it doesn't
work.  The SYSTEM CONFIG file should be OK: during IPL, CP tells:
16:03:42 HCPZPQ6857I System is enabled for dynamic I/O changes  

When I write the IOCDS, I get an error about the token:
IOCP L911QDIO ( WRTA0 DYN   
QUERY TOKEN command return code was: 6816   
Processing will continue with default token.
TOTAL MESSAGES FOR SYNTAX CHECKING: 0INFORMATIONAL: 0   
000WARNING: 0ERROR: 0   
TOTAL MESSAGES FOR  I/O DEVICE REPORT: 0INFORMATIONAL: 0
ION: 0WARNING: 0
TOTAL MESSAGES FOR CHANNEL PATH ID REPORT: 0INFORMATIONAL: 0
ION: 0WARNING: 0

 TIME 16.57 DATE 09.342 PAGE 507
IYP059I IOCP SUCCESSFULLY WROTE IOCDS A0

TOTAL IOCP MESSAGES: 1INFORMATIONAL: 1CAUTION: 0
 0ERROR: 0  
Ready; T=0.37/0.39 16:57:34 
query token 
HCPCCO6816E Dynamic I/O changes are not allowed on this system  
The target channel subsystem configuration token is:
VM-TOKEN11/13/0910:42:2811/13/0911:44:06
Ready(06816); T=0.01/0.01 16:57:52  

What can be wrong?

-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: zVM 'disk wiping'

[Aria Bamdad]

Thanks Alan.  Yes, I know that degaussing will mess the tape up.  In my
case, I do this when I want to retire the tapes and send them for recycling.

Where do one go to submit a requirement?

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:26 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: zVM 'disk wiping'
> 
> On Thursday, 10/08/2009 at 01:55 EDT, Aria Bamdad 
> wrote:
> > It would be nice if the CMS TAPE command had a DSE option.  I pass
> tapes
> > through a degausser but would feel a lot better if I ran a DSE
> command
> where
> > the tape was erased from beginning to end.
> 
> Yes, it would be.  But it won't ever be done if people don't submit
> requirements or get their names attached to existing ones.  :-)
> 
> The one thing you must not to do a tape cartridge is degauss it.  If
> you
> do, the servo tracks are destroyed and must be re-initialized before
> the
> tape can be used.
> 
> z/OS will prompt you and ask if it is ok to initialize a scrogged tape.
> z/VM will not.  (Another opportunity for a requirement.)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott

Re: zVM 'disk wiping'

[Aria Bamdad]

It would be nice if the CMS TAPE command had a DSE option.  I pass tapes
through a degausser but would feel a lot better if I ran a DSE command where
the tape was erased from beginning to end.

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of David Boyes
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:54 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: zVM 'disk wiping'
> 
> > Isn't it strange that I can find no requirements for the CMS TAPE
> > command
> > to support a "DSE" option?  And nothing about DSE for minidisk or
> tdisk
> > deallocation?  Apparently home-grown erasure solutions and shredding
> > are
> > good enough.
> 
> There were several a few years back, but IBM rejected them all because
> there were IPLable z/OS utilities (DSF was deemed "good enough") and
> third-party apps that performed the same task.
> 
> I can fix that lack if you prefer.
> 
> -- db

Re: zVM 'disk wiping'

[Aria Bamdad]

Scott,

 

The ‘passes’ cover the entire disk.  That is, you would write varying patterns 
of bits over the entire disk over and over again, each time picking a different 
bit pattern.  According to strict security standards, if you were to just 
format the drive a few times, writing the same pattern of bits each time, you 
can still read the previously written data from the drive if you tried hard 
enough.

 

If you are using ICKDSF, you can use TRKFMT function with the CYCLES and 
ERASEDATA to do multiple passes.

 

Aria

 

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:29 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: zVM 'disk wiping'

 

Working with a customer running Linux on zSeries under zVM...  discussing clean 
up of disk areas when a Linux server is removed.   The 'norm' according to the 
customer is to use anywhere from 3 to 35 'passes' to erase data, depending on 
sensitivity.   I'm wondering if anyone can provide input about how this relates 
to various cleanup available...   I'm confused on a couple of fronts:

-  I'm probably not understanding -- but writing 1's or 0's more than once to a 
disk area seems, well, silly.   Do 'passes' imply that each pass is covering 
more 'area' or something?   Whenever I do things like 0 a disk using the dd 
command -- I assume the entire disk is being written to and any subsequent dd 
commands are unnecessary and redundant.

- If we do a DIRM PURGE user CLEAN --  is that sufficient to meet any DoD 
rules, etc concerning securely wiping data?Same for CPFMTXA FORMAT and any 
other utilities used from zVM to 'clean' DASD...   does anyone actually run 
these more than once?

I'm sure I'm not understanding the context of 'passes' and just want to be able 
to talk intelligently as I can about how their concept of passes relates to how 
mainframe DASD is dealt with - especially at the zVM level.  This is always 
where I come to hear several points of view and get useful insight -- so any 
input would be most welcome!

Scott

p.s.  Considered posting this in Linux-390 .. but it's really more of a zVM 
thing to me - especially since I plan to use DIRMAINT CLEAN functions to remove 
Linux servers from zVM.

Re: DDR Dump Multiple Volumes

[Aria Bamdad]

And when you are reading back from tape with multiple volume dumps, use the
'SKIP n' option to position to the correct dump first.



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Pace
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:55 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR Dump Multiple Volumes



The key here is   (LEAVE   on the output tape.
OUT 181 TAPE (LEAVE 

That way the tape will stay in the same position at end of the dump.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Paul, Thomas  wrote:

Sorry - I forgot this was a tape dump... but still you can do it - the tape
is full, it'll call for a new mount.


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Billy R. Bingham
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DDR Dump Multiple Volumes

Hellp,

Excuse me for this probably simple question. I want to dump multiple 3390-3
DASD volumes to one 3590 volume. What would be the DDR command for this?


Thanks,

Billy

This email is intended for the recipient only.  If you are not the intended
recipient please disregard, and do not use the information for any purpose.




-- 
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317

Re: SSIDs anymore?

[Aria Bamdad]

The SSID shows up on the performance toolkit screens.  I am sure it appears
on reports generated by other performance monitors also.  

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:59 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: SSIDs anymore?
> 
> Subsystem IDs
> 
> I know you still have to define them in the controllers, but are they
> used anymore?
> We use to need them for EREP, but all the current hardware seems to
> have their own service processor that makes EREP useless.
> 
> Perhaps large shops still need them for something.
> 
> What happens now, if you have two controllers with the same SSIDs?
> 
> Obviously, one of the clients is installing a controller this weekend.
> Hence the subject came up.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting

Re: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?

[Aria Bamdad]

Three phase is more efficient than single phase.  You may save on electric
bills but I am not sure.  Also, I think if you take a short power hit on a
single phase unit (without battery backup), you have a higher chance of the
box going down than if you were to take a hit on a 3 phase powered unit.  

Here is a link that talks about efficiency
http://www.windstuffnow.com/main/3_phase_basics.htm

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Brian Nielsen
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:42 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: z890 power: 3 phase vs 1 phase?
> 
> We're looking at power options for a z890 in a backup datacenter.  The
> Installation and Planning manual says that the z890 can run off either
> single phase or three phase power.  The site cost for a three phase
> supply
> is more than the cost for a single phase supply.  I understand what
> single
> and three phase power are (thanks Google), I just don't understand, and
> havn't been able to find, what the trade-offs/compromises are other
> than
> the cost.  This leaves me unable to evaluate the cost benefit of 3
> phase
> vs 1 phase, and hence make a recommendation.  Any help would be
> appreciated.  Reference to source material would be great.
> 
> Brian Nielsen

Re: PDFs

[Aria Bamdad]

You can use a plugin like LiveHTTPHeaders for firefox but I don't think
you need this.  Did you try my suggestion to switch to binary?

Aria

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:46:16 -0700 Schuh, Richard said:
>I have on another server and it displays properly. How do I get to the
>HTTP headers from the browser?
>
>Regards,
>Richard Schuh
>

Re: PDFs

[Aria Bamdad]

I think I have your solution!

It's been a long time but I know this worked for me when I used Webshare
so I started up my old server and served a PDF file without any problem.

I then looked at my HTTPD CONFIG file and noticed that my config file
had 'binary' listed for file type of PDF  and mime type of application/pdf.

Here is my line:

type  pdf 0 application/pdf binary

When I changed it to 8bit, I got the same error message you are getting.
So, it should be set to binary.

Hope this helps.

Aria

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:13:00 -0400 Alan Altmark said:
>On Friday, 04/10/2009 at 04:45 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
>wrote:
>> I disabled the plug-in and got the same result.
>
>If you can get the PDF file to another web server where it DOES work, it
>would be interesting to know what the HTTP headers look like.
>
>It could be that the 'engine' in Acrobat is expecting to have received a
>chunk of data all at once and the chunk is spread across TCP segments,
>frustrating the code.  A change to the buffer allocations in profile tcpip
>might give different results.  It's reaching, I know, but I used up all my
>horses.  Zebras are all I have.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM Endicott
>

Re: DASD Response Time Oddity

[Aria Bamdad]

Dave,

Normally, when there is little to no activity on a device, the response
time may appear slower than devices that are busy.  At least this is
what I have observed.

I am no expert but my assumption is that when there are vary few
I/O operations done, then the chances of the seeks being 'closer' to
each other is lower and hence the higher response time.  During
normal active periods, this is less true and you may see better
response time number.  I am sure others will correct me if I am wrong.

Aria.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:20:06 -0500 David L. Craig said:
>I was collecting monitor data on the Monday holiday
>to see what idle looks like on our 7060 running
>VM/ESA 2.2 and noticed DASD Response Time was being
>reported every ten minutes around 4 ms for the most
>part, when 1-2 is normal.  The average for the whole
>day (8 AM to 6 PM) was only 1.6, though.  I've put an
>analysis at http://www.radix.net/~dlc/DASD_Response.pdf
>for anyone interested to look at that includes the same
>numbers for Tuesday, a more normal sample.  Is this
>just a bug in VMPRF or is something else going on here?
>
>--
>
>May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!
>
>Dave Craig
>
>-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
>"'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
> You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
> Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'"
>
>--from _Nightfall_  by Asimov/Silverberg
>

Re: Using REXX/VM

[Aria Bamdad]

I would move the 'all ...' stage after the specs 1-16 stage to be safe.
Otherwise, you may pickup some lines that you did not intend to if the
characters you are searching for exist as part of other VM account names
or headers, etc..  That's why I used find in my post.

Re: Using REXX/VM

[Aria Bamdad]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:28:22 -0600 Wilson, Roger said:
>
>I am writing an exec that reads a file pulls certain lines out and write
>this data to an output file. Simple.
>
snip...
>

Roger,

Take advantage of PIPE command to do all the work for you.  Something
like this should get you started:

'pipe vmc' where 'user | strip | stem mondata.'
'pipe stem mondata. | find CICS | specs 1-16 1 >> SUMUSE LOG A'
repeat above for other uses or write a multi stage pipeline to do all in
one step.

You can use the same 'specs' stage to pull the parts of the records you
want.  You may have to modify the 1-16 field as I have a placed a strip
stage that removes the leading blanks.

Aria

>I am trying to use the CHARIN() and CHAROUT and I am failing miserably.
>
>
>
>Right now I queue the commands:
>
>
>
>   parse arg where
>
>   if where =3D '' then where =3D 'PERFSVM ' =
>
>
>   'PIPE VMC ' where ' USER ',
>
>' | stem results. ',
>
>' | > FCX112 RESULTS A'
>
>  QUEUE 'BOTTOM'
>
>  QUEUE 'GET RUNDATE'
>
>  QUEUE 'XEDIT FCX112 RESULTS A'
>
>  QUEUE '/CICS'
>
>  QUEUE 'PUT'
>
>  QUEUE 'QQUIT'
>
>  QUEUE 'GET'
>
>  QUEUE 'XEDIT FCX112 RESULTS A'
>
>  QUEUE '/DOSVSE'
>
>  QUEUE 'PUT'
>
>  QUEUE 'QQUIT'
>
>  QUEUE 'GET'
>
>  QUEUE 'XEDIT FCX112 RESULTS A'
>
>  QUEUE '/COMP'
>
>  QUEUE 'PUT'
>
>  QUEUE 'QQUIT'
>
>  QUEUE 'GET'
>
>  QUEUE 'FILE'
>
>'XEDIT SUMUSE LOG A (NOM'
>
>'WAKEUP   +00:01:00'
>
>EXIT
>
>
>
>This puts the whole line. I just want to put the first 16 characters of
>the line found.
>
>Also I need to pull data from columns 35 to 65 of a file and put it into
>pos 1 -30 of the output file.
>
>
>
>I'm pretty green as far as REXX/VM is concerned, so any help would be
>appreciated.
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>
>Roger Wilson
>
>
>
>--_=_NextPart_001_01C95C87.6F66CCB8
>Content-Type: text/html;
>   charset="us-ascii"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>
>
>
>charset=3Dus-ascii">
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>I am writing an exec that reads a file pulls certain =
>lines
>out and write this data to an output file. Simple.
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'> 
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>I am trying to use the CHARIN() and CHAROUT and I am =
>failing
>miserably. 
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'> 
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>Right now I queue the commands:
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'> 
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>   parse arg
>where   &n=
>bsp;   &nb=
>sp;   &nbs=
>p;=
>; 
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>   if where =3D '' then where =3D 'PERFSVM
>'=
>&=
>nbsp;  
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>   'PIPE VMC ' where ' USER
>',=
>;=
>
> 
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>' | stem results.
>',=
>;=
>&=
>nbsp;   &n=
>bsp;  
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>' | > FCX112 RESULTS
>A'=
>;=
>&=
>nbsp;   
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE
>'BOTTOM'   =
>;=
>&=
>nbsp;   &n=
>bsp;   
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE 'GET
>RUNDATE'  =
>&=
>nbsp;   &n=
>bsp;   &nb=
>sp;
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE 'XEDIT FCX112 =
>RESULTS
>A'=
>;=
>   
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE
>'/CICS'   =
>&=
>nbsp;   &n=
>bsp;   &nb=
>sp;
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE
>'PUT'   &n=
>bsp;   &nb=
>sp;   &nbs=
>p;=
>;  
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE
>'QQUIT'   =
>&=
>nbsp;   &n=
>bsp;   &nb=
>sp;
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE
>'GET'   &n=
>bsp;   &nb=
>sp;   &nbs=
>p;=
>;  
>
>
>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>font-family:Arial'>  QUEUE 'XEDIT FCX112 =
>RESULTS
>A' 

Re: I need ideas for getting a synchronous response from a Virtual Machine

[Aria Bamdad]

I have been using the following code segment in a CGI I have for years.
It send a message to another DVM and waits for a reply.  I know you didn't
want an PIPE stage but in case you changed your mind.  I am no pipe expect
so I am sure it can be written much nicer but it works!

Aria

address command 'CP SET MSG IUCV'
ADDRESS COMMAND 'PIPE (end ? name SendRequest)',
'  hole',
'| literal +5',/* wait max of 5 sec   */
'| delay',
'| g: gate',   /* Shut the gate   */
'? starmsg *MSGALL',   /* wait for messages */
'| g:',/* Until the interval expires  */
'| specs w2-* 1',  /* remove the id part. */
'| var reply',
'| pipestop',  /* stop when we got a reply*/
'? hole', /* ask DVM in 1 sec.  to be sure we are listening   */
'| literal SMSG _dvmid_ _dvmCommand_' ,
'| CP',/* send message to DVM */
'| hole'



On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:47:13 +0100 Colin Allinson said:
>
>I am working with a Web CGI script and need to request information off
>another Virtual machine and get a synchronous response back (eg: in a
>PIPE).
>
>I could use REXEC but this could be a bit cludgey for a number of reasons
>(mainly to do with checking the userid in not logged on at the time).
>
>I could try pre-building the data into a filepool directory and retrieving
>it from there but the data is fairly dynamic so it would need to be
>rebuilt constantly.
>
>The CA routines for running an EXEC on another user and getting the output
>seem to need a logon first (this will be a widely used page and public
>data)
>
>I could get into a complicated PIPE in the CGI script that waits on a
>STARMSG with a time-out breaking the GATE but I would prefer not to do
>that.
>
>I am convinced that I am missing something very obvious - but I cannot
>think what.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas??
>
>Colin Allinson
>
>Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
>

Re: Moving DASD to a new volume range

[Aria Bamdad]

Make sure your old 7xxx range DASD is unavailable before you IPL
your 8xxx copies or you will have duplicate volumes which would
not be a good thing.

Aria
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:49:19 -0600 Juarez, David T. (AITC) said:
>Hi there z/VM gurus. We are going to move our z/VM 5.3 and Red Hat Linux
>5.2 DASD volumes from address range 7xxx to 8xxx using FDR full volume
>physical backups/restores and keep the same volume labels.  We will
>modify the system config file to vary online the 8xxx range and IPL off
>the new 8xxx RES pack. Is there anything else we need to change or be
>aware of?  We are using EMC DASD but I don't think that matters.  FDR
>runs on z/OS.  Thanks!
>
>
>David Ju rez
>
>Department of Veterans Affairs
>
>z/OS and z/VM Systems Programmer

Re: Shark Retiring

[Aria Bamdad]

You can try using ICKDSF and write patterns of data on it to clear what
was there.  This may not be good enough for some organizations but
is good enough for most.  You can try something like the following:

TRKFMT UNIT(xxx) NVFY ERASEDATA CYLRANGE(,) CYCLES(x)

Aria.
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:52:29 -0500 Mary Zervos said:
>We are about to retire a 2105-F20 Shark, which will be resold.  The best
>way to totally delete all our data from the Shark?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mary Zervos
>Systems Programmer
>Binghamton University
>

Re: Interface control check

[Aria Bamdad]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:44:31 -0500 Mrohs, Ray said:
>Update and heads-up: Our problem turned out to be a bad MCL update on
>the z890 that only affected apps doing long CCW chains. We are fortunate
>enough to have a backup system to move VM to while the problem was being
>investigated and patched. There is a lesson here about "non-disruptive"
>MCL changes on a live system, though.=20
>

Ray,

Do you have any specifics about which microcode patch caused your problems?
Perhaps others can avoide the same problem until a fix is introduced.

Thanks,
Aria.

Re: Slow SSH response

[Aria Bamdad]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:19:16 -0600 Steve Mitchell said:
>
>The puzzle:  Why did the SSH process fail?  I'm not certain where to look
>for an explanation.  I've checked the Velocity reports,  VM was doing some
>paging during both of these times, could that have done it?  CPU
>consumption was not excessive at approx 50%.  Where else might I look?
>

I have seen slow SSH response during the login and password prompt part
of the session that was caused by an incorrect or non-working DNS server
setup on the host.  The delay was caused by a non working or invalid primary
DNS server, then when the secondary DNS server was asked (after a timeout)
the SSH connection/prompt was presented.

Aria.

Re: Hardware service providers

[Aria Bamdad]

Thanks August.

Aria.

Re: Hardware service providers

[Aria Bamdad]

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:52:51 -0400 August Carideo said:
>I think it would have helped to state where you are located, sending you
>hardware support names from small companies from NY, NJ may not
>help you


Good point.  I am in the Washington DC Metro area.

Hardware service providers

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi,

Sorry this is off topic.

I wanted to know who others use (other than IBM) to provide hardware
service support for their IBM equpipment such as processors and disks.

For years I have been keeping our CPU under IBM service but the recent
numbers I am getting from IBM basically make it impossible for a smaller
shop to use zSeries hardware.

If others are using non-IBM service, I would like to know who and
what is your experience with the company.  Please reply directly to
me as I do not want to bother the list any more than I have already.

Thanks in advance,
Aria

Re: CPFMTXA VOLUME FORMATTING QUESTION

[Aria Bamdad]

When you use CPFMTXA command, you can specify the from/to cylinder
for your format command.  Specify cyl 0 and then properly allocate the
device as PERM.

As a general procedure, I do not attach any new device to my system
before I CPFMTXA the complete volume.

Re: Preparing a 3390-27 for Linux

[Aria Bamdad]

Placing them all on one mod 27 may not give you the best performance.

Aria.

Re: DB2 on VM

[Aria Bamdad]

Thanks Roland.  I am aware of the VMDSS issues with 5.3 and have those
APARs applied.

Thanks again.
Aria.

DB2 on VM

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi List,

Anyone using an older version of DB2 for VM on a later version (5) of
VM?  I am moving to zVM 5.3 and have a DB2 7.1 server that needs to
move with it.  I want to know if there are any 'problems' running
an older 7.1 server on zVM version 5.  I would rather not upgrade
DB2 if I don't have to.

Thanks in advance.
Aria

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

[Aria Bamdad]

Terry,

You can add the page volumes to any available slot in the config file
but you cannot change the ORDER of the spool volumes in the config file.
CP saves this information at shutdown time and uses it to reconstruct
the spool files at IPL time, so the order of the volumes in the slots
for spool must stay the same.

You can add your newly added page voluems to any available slot in the
system config file.  They don't have to match the slot number you used
when you dynamically defined it.

One last note about adding paging volumes that I think others mentioned
but is very important Make sure that you ICKDSF format all of the
appropriate cyls for the new paging device and then allocate the same cyls.
If for instance you format all but one cyl for a volume and define an
place the volume in use, everything will go just fine.  However, 2 days
or 2 years later, when CP decides to use that one cyl for paging is when
you see the problem.

Aria..


On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:22:12 -0400 Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) said:
>
>Hi
>
>
>
>The PAGE ADD worked well. I have one other question pertaining to this.
>I have some SLOTS in my SYSCONFIG that contain PAGE VOLUMES that are no
>longer available. Can I replace those SLOTS with the new PAGE VOLUMES
>that I ADDED dynamically? When I added them dynamically they occupied
>SLOTS 15-18. I assume in the CONFIG file they do not need to occupy the
>same SLOTS. I am assuming that the SLOTS are re-numbered at IPL time. Am
>I thinking correctly here?
>
>
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   1  530RES
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   2  530SPL
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   3  530PAG
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   4  VP5105I want to remove SLOTS 4-7 and 9-12 and
>replace them with the NEW PAGE VOLUMES
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   5  VP5106
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   6  VP5107
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   7  VP5108
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   8  VP5109
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   9  VP510A
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   10  VP510B
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   11  VP510C
>
>CP_OWNED   SLOT   12  VP510D
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   13  530W01
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   14  530W02
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   15  RESERVED
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   16  RESERVED
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   17  RESERVED
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   18  RESERVED
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   19  RESERVED
>
>CP_Owned   Slot   20  RESERVED
>
>
>
>Thank You,
>
>
>
>Terry Martin
>
>Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
>
>z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
>
>Cell - 443 632-4191
>
>Work - 410 786-0386
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

[Aria Bamdad]

Also be sure to add the same information to your SYSTEM CONFIG
files located on the PARM disks of MAINT (CF1, CF2, CF3) in the
same slot number.  That way, the next time you IPL, your new
page device will be there also.

Aria.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:01:21 -0700 Brandt, Mark H said:
>
>Hi Terry,
>
>Yes ...
>for full volumes
>Format and allocate paging volume .. (keep cyl 1 as perm  the rest
>should be page)
>
>Then :
>Q CPOWNED (Determine next slot number.
>
>CP DEFINE CPOWNED SLOT nn volid
>
>ATT xxx SYSTEM (Attach the device to the system
>
>CP START DASD realaddr PAGE
>
>
>
>
>From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:55 AM
>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>Subject: Adding Paging Dynamically
>
>
>
>Hi
>
>
>
>Is there a way to add PAGING packs to my z/VM 5.3 system dynamically as
>in z/OS?
>
>
>
>Thank You,
>
>
>
>Terry Martin
>
>Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
>
>z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
>
>Cell - 443 632-4191
>
>Work - 410 786-0386
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>

Re: A simple question, but not for the youngsters

[Aria Bamdad]

Glen,

Do a Google search for the following:  power requirements ibm 3490-A10
and you will get exactly what you are looking for.

Aria


On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:34:31 -0500, Glen Gunselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:

>I've tried that a couple of times.  Did not find A10's or B40's.  The la
ter
models (Cxx and Fxx) are there. I did find a re-seller who forgot about Y
2K
and is showing the current year as 108.
> 
>Thanks,
>Glen
>
 "McBride, Catherine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/18/2008 1:50 PM >>>
>Google GC22-7064, you'll find it
>
>-Original Message-
>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

>Behalf Of Glen Gunselman
>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:48 PM
>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
>Subject: A simple question, but not for the youngsters
>
>
>Good afternoon (I'm in CDT today :) ),
>
>Could I get someone to open a real manual?  
>
>Either
>
>GC22-7064  (IBM System/360, System/370, 4300, and 9370 Processors
>Input/Output Equipment Installation Manual - Physical Planning)
>
>or
>
>GC22-7072   (IBM General Information Installation Manual - Physical Plan
n=
>ing)
>
>and tell me the power requirements and output BTUs for an "IBM 3490 Magn
e=
>tic
>Tape Subsystem Model" A10 and a B40.
>
>
>I'm not sure which one has the info (although they both may have it) but
 =
>I
>cannot find it in softcopy and our operations guy has retired (at least 
a=
>t
>past employers it was the operations folks who kept physical planning gu
i=
>des
>- they would only share if you asked real nice).
>
>
>Thanks and have a good weekend (whatever your time zone),
>
>Glen Gunselman
>Systems Software Specialist
>TCS
>Emporia State University
>

Re: 2105-800 FICON IOCP problem

[Aria Bamdad]

Ed and Steve,

Thanks for the clarifications.  Since I am using direct attached ESCON,
I don't have any preferred paths.  All the paths are online and attached.

I could never find any manual that stated one way or the other if
there was any improvement or not.  Thanks Steve for clearing that up.


On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:45:08 -0400 Steve Wilkins said:
>
>The number of control units doesn't make a difference to VM.   From a
>performance perspective, just make sure you always have at least 1
>preferred path on-line to each DS6000 disk.
>
>Steve Wilkins
>z/VM I/O Strategy
>

Re: 2105-800 FICON IOCP problem

[Aria Bamdad]

Like Mark, I too do not have the UNITADD on the IODEVICE lines.  If I
recall correctly, you use this parameter to reassign the device number
to something else.  In your case, having them all 00 should/would cause
a problem.

This makes me wonder about my IOCP.  I am not using a real 2105 but an
emulated 2105 (EMC box).  Your IOCP has 8 CNTLUNIT macros with the
768 devices spread across all of them.  My IOCP has 3 CNTLUNIT macros
with the 768 devices on them (256 on each).

>From the VM point of view, does anyone know if there is a performance
or other difference between having more or fewer control units defined?


Aria

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:03:26 -0400 Mark Pace said:
>
>About the only thing I see different between mine and yours is the UNITADD
>on the IODEVICE.  I don't have that in mine.
>
>On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:47 AM, daver++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, we are in the process of migrating from an ESCON attached 2105-F20
>> to a FICON attached 2105-800. This is my first FICON IOCP, and I am
>> having some issues. We are on a z/800 running VSE (3.1.2) under VM
>> (5.2). The 2105-800 is attached directly to the z/800, no director. Here
>> is the IOCP I am trying:
>>
...snip

Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

[Aria Bamdad]

The added cycles for software encryption is a problem for me also.
I use an drive enclosure made by Addonics that encrypts everything on
the drive using various levels of encryption.  It's all hardware based
and to get to the data on the drive, you need to plug in the encryption
key before you turn the drive on.

Aria.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:38:01 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
>Hi Tom,
>
>Yep, we were also looking at Dave's VM/Encrypt product and I REALLY
>loved what I saw, but we didn't have the cycles available on the IBM
>2066-0B1 to use it in production.  Then it was "decided" that the TS1120
>would be the "approved means" of encrypting mainframe tapes so.. :(
>
>-Mike

Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

[Aria Bamdad]

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
>Hi Aria,
>
>We are on an IBM 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels to an IBM 9393, running
>with a full system load.  It would probably only take about 10 minutes
>on a big z9 (or z10) box, lightly loaded with FICON channels. :)

I wish!!! I am on a 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels also.  The DASD is
an EMC 8430 with lots of cache however.

Aria.

Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

[Aria Bamdad]

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:42:13 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
>have to COPYFILE (PACK the output from DDR2CMS.   DDR2CMS takes around
>47 minutes/spindle, and the COPYFILE takes around 38 minutes - the FTP
>only takes around 17 minutes!  So we are really wasting nearly 90
>minutes/spindle just prepping the data to be transmitted.

Michael,

47 minutes seems way too long to me to DDR a 3390-3 pack.  I tried using
PIPEDDR to dump a 3390-3 and it took 9 minutes.

Aria.

Re: Filezilla and SSL FTP

[Aria Bamdad]

It may be unrelated but looking at the change log for filezilla client
shows "Compatibility improvements with VMS and z/VM servers".  This
may or may not have anything to do with your problem.  From what you
said however, it sounds like you are having some sort of certificate
problem.

Aria.
On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:23:33 -0400 Mrohs, Ray said:
>We have been using Filezilla 3.0.3 for SSL file transfers between
>Windows and z/VM 5.2. More recent versions of Filezilla, 3.0.4 and
>beyond, no longer work. Sessions drop during the first few packet
>exchanges, and before the certificate gets displayed or user
>authentication. Before we go into debug mode, has anyone else seen/dealt
>with this?  =20
>

DB2 7.5 Question

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi,

I wanted to know if anyone is using DB2/VM version 7.5 on any z/VM release
prior to 5.2.

The program directory for DB2 7.5 states that it is supported on zVM 5.2
or later.  I am upgrading a zVM 4.3 system to 5.3 and was wondering if
it's safer to upgrade DB2 first (before VM upgrade) or later (after VM
upgrade).  It's kind of a chicken and egg problem.

Thanks in advance.
Aria.

Re: Faking out SERVICE EXEC

[Aria Bamdad]

Just taking a guess here.  Did you define your virtual storage
high enough before starting the process?

Aria.
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:57:27 -0600 Adam Thornton said:
>So, I'm trying to apply service to our ancient 4.4 system, in
>preparation for moving its bits and pieces off to a slightly more
>modern system.
>
>SERVICE ALL blah...
>
>Worked, albeit with warnings.
>
>PUT2PROD is failing in SEGMENTS.
>
>When I try to build CMSBAM I get:
>
>DMSDCS343E Storage in range 00B0D000-00B37FFF for CMSBAM in use.
>DMSSGN239E Cannot build segment.  ReIPL CMS, ACCESS (NOPROF, and
>rebuild segment
>VMFBDS1965E The command, $BAMGEN$ B0D000 CMSBAM, failed with return
>code 41
>VMFBDS2219I Processing object CMSDOS.SEGMENT
>VMFBDS2012E Storage in range 00B0-00B0CFFF for CMSDOS in use.
>VMFBLD1851E (1 of 1) VMFBDSEG completed with return code 100. Some
>objects were
>
>Now, here's the thing.  That and CMSDOS are, I think, things I
>couldn't actually care less about.  Is there some way I can fake out
>SERVICE to just ignore those segments and keep going?
>
>Adam
>

Re: Adding optional components from install tapes?

[Aria Bamdad]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:53:34 -0500 David Boyes said:
>> What are "Potional Items"? :-) My first guess would be items that
>> witches use when concocting a potion.
>
>Eye of newt, toad spawn, TSM/VM... hmm. Is there a pattern here?
>

That was caused by the caugh syrup I spilled on my keyboard!

Re: Adding optional components from install tapes?

[Aria Bamdad]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:19:45 -0500 David Boyes said:
>
>I've just inherited a 4.4 system where I need to add some of the
>optional products that were omitted during the original install. The 4.4
>program dir doesn't seem to have instructions on how to do that. Does
>anyone have a quick cookbook for doing that (I'd really rather not do a
>full 2nd level install just to get the DSM* ids)?


David,

You can do post installation add of products by following the
"Post Install Load of Potional Items" appendinx in the ZVM installation
manual.

Aria

Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

[Aria Bamdad]

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:44:02 -0500 Hilliard, Chris said:
>
>I need a short lesson on backing up DASD volumes using DDR.
>
snip

Chris,

Others have made good suggestions.  Over time, you may have more DASD
that you want to dump or use multiple virtual machines that you want to
use simultaniously to dump from.  Here is one way to address that:

Define one dummy user that owns a full pack minidisk on each volume:

USER $VOLS$  NOLOG
  ACCOUNT SYSTEM SYSTEM
  MDISK A00 3390  3339 VOLA00 RR
  MDISK A01 3390  3339 VOLA01 RR
  MDISK A02 3390  3339 VOLA02 RR
  MDISK A03 3390  3339 VOLA03 RR
  MDISK A04 3390  3339 VOLA04 RR


Now define multiple dump users that do the dumping to tape.  These users
will have access to the dummy account disks above.  To make it simpler,
just define a user profile first then use that in each dump account:


PROFILE SYSDMPPR
*  Profile for SYSDUMP users
  ACCOUNT SYSUTIL SYSTEM
  MACHINE XC
  IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
  CONSOLE 009 3215
  SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
  SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
  SPOOL 00E 1403 A
  LINK MAINT 190 190 RR
  LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR
  LINK $VOLS$ A00 A00 RR
  LINK $VOLS$ A01 A01 RR
  LINK $VOLS$ A02 A02 RR
  LINK $VOLS$ A03 A03 RR
  LINK $VOLS$ A04 A04 RR

Now each new dump account can be define using:

USER SYSDUMP PASSWORD 5M 25M G
  INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
  MDISK 191 3390   zz W
  *
USER SYSDUMP2 PASSWORD 5M 25M G
  INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
  MDISK 191 3390   zz W


Now each dump account has a virtual address that matches the real
address of a real DASD.  You can then do a DDR with input statements
that point to the virtual address.

Remember to never make this LINK or MDISK statements in write mode.  Everything
should be in read only mode.

Aria

Re: RSU703

[Aria Bamdad]

I have 0703 applied (2nd level) and did not see any problems.

Aria.
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:09:46 -0600 Huegel, Thomas said:
>
>Just wondering befor I call support.
>Has anyone put on RSU703 for z/VM 5.3?
>Any problems?
>When I try I get these messages:
>VMFSIP2500E Requisite error, missing requisite 5VMSES30 for PRODID
>5VMREX30%REXX
>VMFSIP2503E PRODID 5VMREX30%REXX has a status of APPLIED but has
>requisites that have not been APPLIED
>VMFREQ2806W The following requisites for product :PPF SERVP2P REXX
>:PRODID 5VMREX30%REXX are not satisfied:
>VMFREQ2806W Type  Product  ComponentPTF
>-   -
>VMFREQ2806W Prerequisite  5VMSES30
>VMFINS2604E Product :PPF SERVP2P REXX :PRODID 5VMREX30%REXX cannot be
>processed because its requisites are not satisfied
>

Re: AW: z/VM 5.2 Absurd System shutdown - PJBR

[Aria Bamdad]

Cylinder zero is ok for other CP areas but NOT for TDISK.  Don't
define a TDSK area on cylinder zero.

Aria.

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:29:15 +0100 Fritz, Wilhelm said:
>Thanks for the clarification, Rob.
>I didn't know that.
>
>Willy
>
>
>On Jan 4, 2008 2:09 PM, Fritz, Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Why does your paging device start on cyl 0?!?:
>
>> Shouldn't it start on Cyl 1, like 520PAG?
>
>Does not have to. CP knows enough to stay out of the first track(s)
>but I think most folks do keep the first cylinder out.
>In his case, those might be the only tracks where CP could page on that =
>disk :-)
>
>Rob
>

Re: CMS TSM admin client

[Aria Bamdad]

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:06:47 -0700 Mark Post said:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at  2:21 PM, in message
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aria Bamdad
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:=20
>-snip-
>> Why is it that z/Linux can talk to a channel attached 3590 but TSM
>> can't?
>
>According to one of my contacts, it's because there are some SCSI commands =
>that TSM uses, which are not available on FICON channels.  Note that it's =
>not impossible, just not their preference.  Once again, Tivoli is in =
>serious need of the clue stick.
>
>
>Mark Post
>

But I am not using FICON attached tape.  I use an ESCON attached 3590
that is in reality a SCSI drive but connected to a ESCON attached
controller.

Re: CMS TSM admin client

[Aria Bamdad]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:31:10 -0500 David Boyes said:
>> Why is it that z/Linux can talk to a channel attached 3590 but TSM
>> can't?
>
>Cynical speculation: it's not that it wouldn't work, but it would take
>additional testing which Tivoli doesn't have time or resources to do in
>order to certify it.=20
>
>It would also cut into sales of new tape drives and SAN hardware.
>

Seems to be that if you want to sell a product (TSM) on a platform,
you would want to offer it in a way so that the majority of the existing
sites would have the ability to use it.  I would assume that the
majority of s/390 & z/Series sites have channel attached tape.

I never understand the marketing thinking behind Tivoli products.

Re: CMS TSM admin client

[Aria Bamdad]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:35:54 -0500 David Boyes said:
>>I had occasion to attempt to use the TSM 3.1 admin client on CMS
>today.
>> With a few changes to DSM OPT, that admin client can talk quite nicely
>> with
>> my TSM 5.4 server on z/Linux.  I sure miss the CMS TSM server, but
>having
>> a
>> CMS TSM admin client is quite handy.
>
>Providing an iSCSI target server virtual machine for CMS that understood
>channel-attached tape drives would cure a lot of my complaints about
>losing the CMS TSM server.  (The Linux TSM server understands iscsi
>targets).
>

I was ready to move my VM TSM Server data to the a z/Linux TSM server
but the fact that the z/Linux TSM does not understand how to operate
a 3490/3590 channel attached tape make the product useless to me.

Why is it that z/Linux can talk to a channel attached 3590 but TSM
can't?

Re: Netstat Block at the Vswitch level

[Aria Bamdad]

Alan & David,

Thank you both for your comments.

I was pretty sure it couldn't be done but figured I ask.  Actually,
I am not trying to replace a firewall, I already have external boxes
that firewall and filter using ACL.  What I was trying to implement is
something similar to what I have for my VM web servers but for Linux.

Currently, on VM, if a web server sees someone trying to login using
incorrect userid/password, it will prompt them to stop/get help, if they
don't, via the VM TCPIP stack, the client is blocked.  Kind of like a
dynamic firewall rule that lasts for a predefined period of time.

I wanted to implement the same for my linux guests but at the VM level
so that I don't incur the overhead of running iptables on each guest.
This way, if a guest sees repeated login attempts or sometimes
you see hackers asking for web pages for common admin tools, then
the guest would inform VM that controls the switch to block that
external IP address for a specific time.

Thanks.
Aria.


On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:48:23 -0500 David Boyes said:
>> I am pretty sure this can't be done at the vswitch level but
>> thought I ask if anyone has done something similar.  I know I can
>> block at the guest level but wanted to block all guests at the switch
>> level.
>
>IP addresses are layer 3 entities. VSWITCH deals with layer 2 frames.
>The most you could do with the VSWITCH is block the guest from attaching
>to the VSWITCH in question via GRANTs.=20
>
>You could put that guest on a different VLAN and use a Linux guest as a
>router between the VLANs. You could then use iptables in the Linux guest
>to limit where it can go and what it can connect to, but at the price of
>doing packet inspection on the 390 CPU.=20
>
>You could also do the above trick on an outboard box if your network is
>set up in that form, but you still need to insert some kind of filtering
>device. It's most efficient to do that outside the box, so that might be
>your best bet -- ACLs in a router are very efficient.=20
>

Netstat Block at the Vswitch level

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi,

I currently have an application that issues a NETSTAT BLOCK command for a
specific IP address to block requests from an external client
to the VM stack.

I want to implement this on a VSWITCH level.  For example, I
want to be able to block an IP address from accessing
any guest (in my case linux guests) connected to the VSWITCH.

I am pretty sure this can't be done at the vswitch level but
thought I ask if anyone has done something similar.  I know I can
block at the guest level but wanted to block all guests at the switch level.

Thanks in advance.
Aria.

Re: TCPIP restarting server too soon

[Aria Bamdad]

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:10:38 -0500 Mike Walter said:
>
>Couldn't the stack design be changed to provide some sort of
>communications (even SMSG) that tells the stack that "I'm busy... PLEASE
>Chuckie, don't force me"?
>
>If the start-up exit (or whatever) is coded to issue "I'm busy - maybe
>with a site-defined status indicator" at regular intervals, the problem is
>solved.   No need to even tell the stack "I'm all done now, start normal
>monitoring."
>
>Mike Walter
>Hewitt Associates
>Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily
>represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.


Or allow the server to tell the stack via SMSG to ignore stop monitoring
this server for active port connections for xx seconds.  Kind of like
excluding this server from the list of servers that the stack keeps an
eye on for a predefined number of seconds.  That ensures that the
server doesn't exclude itself and then dies trying to do what it is.

Re: TCPIP restarting server too soon

[Aria Bamdad]

Alan,

This is a problem not just for what I need done but in general for
any exit processing.  If an exit processing routine is provided and
documented for use, then the stack needs to allow the server some
known time window to do it's job.  As it is now, the time window changes
each time.  It could be a few seconds, to tens of seconds.  I am not
sure what it is dependent on but I know it is not consistent.

It would be helpful if the server could be aware of exit processing
so that it can allow for the exit to finish properly.


On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:10:33 -0400 Alan Altmark said:
>On Wednesday, 08/29/2007 at 03:06 EDT, Aria Bamdad
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I have a local exit defined in my DTCPARMS file for my SMTP servers.
>> When a server is started the exit is called with the 'BEGIN' parameter.
>> During this time, the server will process the log files that exist on
>> it's A disk.  However, this may take some time and at times, the server
>> does not finish before TCPIP notices that the server is not listening
>> and force/autologs the server.  This messes up the log processing
>routine!
>>
>> Is there a way to prevent TCPIP from restarting servers for a window of
>> time to allow for server exit processing to complete.
>
>No, sorry.  I would suggest using the exit to swap disks and then signal
>another virtual machine that it can link, access, and process the logs or
>maybe just SENDFILE them to another virtual machine.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM Endicott
>

TCPIP restarting server too soon

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi,

I have a local exit defined in my DTCPARMS file for my SMTP servers.
When a server is started the exit is called with the 'BEGIN' parameter.
During this time, the server will process the log files that exist on
it's A disk.  However, this may take some time and at times, the server
does not finish before TCPIP notices that the server is not listening
and force/autologs the server.  This messes up the log processing routine!

Is there a way to prevent TCPIP from restarting servers for a window of
time to allow for server exit processing to complete.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Encryption options for DDR

[Aria Bamdad]

Rick,

Thanks.  Yes, I have looked at V/Soft's solution also.  A minor
correction, their web site has a dash in the domain name:

http://www.vsoft-software.com

Aria.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:19:22 -0400 Rick Giz said:
>Hi. I did some research on this issue a while back.  A hardware =20
>solution seemed to be the most prevalent, but if you're looking for a =20
>software solution, you might want to check the products at:
>
>http://www.vsoftsoftware.com/products.html
>
>Although similar in name to my organization, we are not affiliated.  =20
>We get no money for referrals; wish we did.  :)
>
>Rick Giz
>Virtual Software Systems, Inc.
>www.vsoftsys.com
>
>
>Quoting Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> On Tuesday, 06/12/2007 at 10:58 AST, Aria Bamdad
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Has anyone developed any solutions for encrypting DDR DASD dump output
>> on
>>> tape?
>>>
>>> I am looking into encrypting DASD dumps by DDR that will be used for
>>> disaster recovery.
>>>
>>> One solution would be to use VMBackup's encryption option and do a
>>> physical dump of a DASD but was wondering if there are other options
>>> that are native to CMS.
>>
>> No, there are no IBM-provided native CMS data encryption functions.
>> (Someday, maybe.)  For now you will need 3rd-party function or an
>> encrypting tape drive (TS1120).
>>
>> Alan Altmark
>> z/VM Development
>> IBM Endicott
>>

Re: Encryption options for DDR

[Aria Bamdad]

Thanks Adam,

I have thought about using the DDR to file option but that will slow
down the process too much and will require a lot more staging area
during the backup process.

For now, the only thing that comes to mind is VMBackup.

I wish IBM would add an encrypt option to DDR!

Aria.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:12:28 -0500 Adam Thornton said:
>
>You could use ddr2cmsx, encrypt the result, and then dump that to
>real tape.  With the (compact option it'll probably save you some
>tape space too.  Obviously this requires restore-to-disk, decrypt,
>restore-to-real-target disk, so it makes your DR process take longer
>and require some temporary holding space.
>
>I am unaware of CMS-based encryption tools, but that by no means
>implies they don't exist.  Me, I'd then VMARC my CMSDDR files (to
>eliminate blocksize issues and further shrink them), send 'em over to
>Linux, run them through something-openssl-based, ship 'em back, and
>stick them on tape, but that's a sort of icky workflow.
>
>Adam

Encryption options for DDR

[Aria Bamdad]

Has anyone developed any solutions for encrypting DDR DASD dump output on
tape?

I am looking into encrypting DASD dumps by DDR that will be used for
disaster recovery.

One solution would be to use VMBackup's encryption option and do a
physical dump of a DASD but was wondering if there are other options
that are native to CMS.

Thanks.
Aria.

Re: PERFKIT error

[Aria Bamdad]

This was a known bug.  Please apply the latest service.



On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:15:35 +0800 Mikhael Ramirez Joaquin said:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>We are running z/VM 4.4 in one of our z9 box and we implement PERFKIT to
>monitor our z/VM. But when I'm running the PERFKIT after a few hours
>(almost a day) the PERFKIT dumps and give me an error like the one
>below:
>
>Dumping LOC R0979
>
>Dumping LOC R097A
>
>Dumping LOC R097B
>
>Dumping LOC R097C
>
>Dumping LOC R097D
>
>Dumping LOC R097E
>
>Dumping LOC R097F
>
>Command complete
>
>RDR FILE 0040 SENT FROM PERFSVM  PRT WAS 0040 RECS 411K CPY  001 A
>NOHOLD NOKEEP
>DMSABE141T Operation exception occurred at 80E4BCA8 in routine PERFKIT
>
>
>Has anyone experience this before?
>
>Thanks for your replies!
>
>Regards,
>
>Mikhael

Re: Multiple VM SMTP servers

[Aria Bamdad]

Thanks to all who responded.  I think the least disruptive thing to
do is to add one or more SMTP IDs all listening on port 25 and dealing
with incoming and outgoing mail needing no updates to the desktop
mail clients.

Hopefully this will address some of the timeouts we are seeing on PC
mail clients during heavy SMTP busy times.

Thanks.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:06:37 -0600 Alan Ackerman said:
>On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:05:28 -0500, Aria Bamdad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Is anyone running multiple VM SMTP servers to address problems with
>>mail agents getting timeouts because VM SMTP is busy?
>>
>>I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same port
>.
>>Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another for
>>outgoing?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
>
>We run two SMTP servers on each VM system. The inbound one is called ISMT
>P and it listens on
>port 25. Nothing special about it. The outbound one is called SMTP, it li
>stens on port 8025, but
>never gets any incoming mail. It uses IPMAILER ALL to send all outgoing m
>ail to our cMTA
>(Corporate Mail Transfer Agent).
>
>I have two so that ISMTP can access DNS while SMTP does NOT. Details a wh
>ile back on this list. I
>didn't do this for performance, but I don't see why you could not have IS
>MPT1,2,3,... all listening
>on port 25.

Re: Multiple VM SMTP servers

[Aria Bamdad]

That helps thanks.  I have 2 more questions:

1-If I move the outgoing servers to a different port, I also need to tell
all my clients to send mail on that port.  That's kind of a pain.  Would
it make sense to just add servers to port 25 and let them all send/receive?

2-The manual says that MaxMailBytes is the maximum number of bytes to accept
on a TCP connection.  Wouldn't setting this to 1 also restrict local
clients from sending mail!!  There is no mention of incoming or outgoing
in the description.

Thanks.


On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:12:42 -0500 Alan Altmark said:
>On Thursday, 03/08/2007 at 10:39 EST, "A. Harry Williams"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:05:28 -0500 Aria Bamdad said:
>> >I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same
>port.
>> >Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another for
>> >outgoing?
>>
>> We have 1 incoming, and several outgoing.  Have your outgoing "listen"
>> on a different port, and have a MAXMAILBYTES of 1.
>
>And if you want multiple incoming servers, specify each server in the PORT
>statement for port 25, but don't set MAXMAILBYTES to 1.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM Endicott

Multiple VM SMTP servers

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi,

Is anyone running multiple VM SMTP servers to address problems with
mail agents getting timeouts because VM SMTP is busy?

I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same port.
Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another for
outgoing?

Thanks.

Re: IOCP for EMC 8430

[Aria Bamdad]

Dale, thanks for the sample IOCP.

I guess my question still stands.  It seems that you don't have to
have a one to one correspondence between 'real' control units and
CNTLUNIT macros.  Based on your sample, you define as many CNTLUNIT
macros as you need to satisfy your number of devices where each
control unit can have 256 devices.

The way these statements look on paper do not appear as good from a
performance point of view.  This may not matter but it seems that
each set of 256 devices are accessible only thru one control unit.
For example, something like this:


CU#800   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=800,
   CUADD=0,
   PATH=(80,E9,88,E5),
   LINK=(F8,FB,F8,FB),
   UNIT=2105,
   UNITADD=((00,256))

DA#5000  IODEVICE ADDRESS=(5000,256),
   CUNUMBR=(800),
   STADET=Y,
   UNIT=3390

As compared to something like this for the old 3990/3390 control units:


   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A00,PATH=(07,13),UNIT=3990,
   UNITADD=((00,256))
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A01,PATH=(08,14),UNIT=3990,
   UNITADD=((00,256))
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A02,PATH=(15,09),UNIT=3990,
   UNITADD=((00,256))
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A03,PATH=(16,0A),UNIT=3990,
   UNITADD=((00,256))
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(A00,256),CUNUMBR=(A00,A01,A02,A03),
   UNIT=3390,UNITADD=00


In this case, the devices have four control units backing them rather
than just one.

Can someone shed some light on this?

Thanks.

IOCP for EMC 8430

[Aria Bamdad]

Hi List,

I was wondering if someone will be willing to share an example IOCP for
and EMC 8430 or 8530 Symmetrix configured with lots of 3390 mod 9 and mod
3 drives.

My problem is that in the past, it was my understanding that you code one
CNTLUNIT macro statement for each REAL control unit in the box.  However
since each one is limited to 256 addresses or devices, then we run into
a problem when we define the IODEVICE statement.

With newer boxes having so much capacity, you can define thousands of
3390's.  In my case I will have over 500 devices.  How do you code this
and still keep the number of CNTLUNIT macros the same as real control
units in the box?  I guess the same applies for IBM ESS systems.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Stuck RSCS LPR printers procedure

[Aria Bamdad]

How do you know that the printer is stuck?  If the job has been in
the queue or partly sent by RSCS, it could be that the printer needs
intervention, like needing paper or toner.  Doing what you do will cause
these jobs to restart and hang again!

Aria.
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:48:10 -0500 you said:
>
>Greetings,
>
>
>
>I am trying to set up some automation to try to retry "stuck" LPR
>printing. Currently, every 30 minutes we check the RSCS queues for files
>that are older than 2 hours old and if there are some to have our help
>desk do the following commands on a stuck printer.
>
>
>
>DRAIN printerid
>
>FLUSH printerid spid HOLD
>
>START printerid FORM *
>
>CHANGE printerid spid NOHOLD
>
>
>
>Now I've decided to have the procedure which detects the stuck printer
>do the commands to try to fix it and if the status doesn't change the
>next time it is called to e-mail our clients help desk.
>
>
>
>While checking out the RSCS book I see that maybe the RSCS STOP command
>, followed by the START command can do the equivalent.
>
>
>
>Is there a difference or a better way?
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>
>Mike Horlick

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

[Aria Bamdad]

This may sound crazy but if you really have to meet DOD standards,
and if your equipment is old and has no real value, it may be
cheaper and faster to remove the disks out of the system and
have them destroyed by a certified company.


On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:03:56 -0500 Cliff Brenner said:
>Hi Folks,
>
> We are in the process of 'decommissioning' our mainframe platform
>(MP3000 runing v/VM 3.1).  We formatted all our internal and external
>DASD (3380s and 3390s) using ICKDSF R16 with the following command:
>
>   CPVOLUME FORMAT UNIT(nnn) NOVERIFY VOLID(Lnnn) -
>where nnn is the real pack address
>
>We formatted most of the packs on VM, then shut down the system and
>formatted the CP-owned packs using ICKDSF standalone.
>
> Now that the work is done, we are getting questions as to whether
>ICKDSF formatting conforms to certain Department of Defense standards
>which recommends multiple formats to guarantee all data has been
>removed.
>
> The ICKDSF manual reads that CPVOLUME FORMAT writes CP information
>to cylinder 0 and then lays out 4K pages on the remaining cylinders.
>Does anyone know whether this means 4K pages comprising of binary
>zeroes?  Since our DASD are CKD, what happens to any tracks (if any)
>that don't fall into 4K boundaries?  Is formatting a pack once good
>enough to insure all data is irrecoverable?  Any assistance with these
>questions would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
>
>Cliff Brenner
>Pace University Computer Systems Dept.

Re: Problem moving spool files from z/vm 3.1 to z/vm 5.2 using spxtape

[Aria Bamdad]

A while ago there was a discussion about SPXTAPE increasing the number
of reserved DUMP pages when you do a SPXTAPE dump or load.  This
may be the reason why you ran out of spool space.  One way around this
is to SET DUMP OFF before you do the SPXTAPE and then back to on
using SET DUMP DASD after the load/dump of spool files is done.

However, I suspect you must have been using a high percentage of your spool
to begin with.

Aria
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:48:47 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>We just migrated from 4.4 to 5.2 RSU 0601 and we saw a similar
>condition. The spool filled up prematurely while migrating 50,000 spool
>files to 5.2 using SPXTAPE. The spool area completely filled, and when
>we purged out all the visible spool files, not SDFs, utilization still
>showed 17%. When we reIPLed, utilization dropped to 2%. One 3390 mod-9
>should have given us enough space when compared to the 4.4 system which
>used 5 mod-2s (2226 cyl. each). We had to scramble and set up 2 more
>mod-9s to finish the cutover. Since we had only a 2 hour window,
>needless to say things got a little challenging!
>
>We didn't have time to IPL again after the SPXTAPE LOAD. Should we
>anticipate a big reduction in spool usage stats after the next outage?
>
>
>Ray Mrohs
>U.S. Department of Justice
>202-307-6896
>
>-Original Message-
>From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Hans Rempel
>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:26 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Problem moving spool files from z/vm 3.1 to z/vm 5.2 using
>spxtape
>
>Thanks Mike. I read you e-mail earlier but didn't have a chance to
>reply.
>You're correct. I used a spxtape to backup of nss files from 5.2 system
>and found that it used much more space than necessary about 13% when I
>loaded them the 5.2 syste. I than IPL'ld and it dropped to 3%. So its
>not just between releases. SPXTAPE 5.2 is bad.
>
>Your comments made me comfortable to proceed with the spxtape load. I
>just added an additional 3 spool volumes to the 4 I had.
>
>Hans

Re: VSWITCH problem regarding connection between different VSWITCH guests

[Aria Bamdad]

I ran into this problem on zVM 5.2.  There is a fix for this problem
and it is on the 0601 put tape for 5.2.  It could be the same issue
on 4.4.  Contact the support center.

Aria.
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:58:39 +0200 Wolfgang Engel said:
>Hi,
>
>I setup several Linux guests using a VSWITCH in z/VM 4.4. But unfortunately the
> Linux guests which are using the same VSWITCH are not able to
>talk to each other via network. Network connections to other hosts on the
>nework
> where the OSA card (from VSWITCH) is connected
>are just fine.
>
>Can anyone give me a hint ?
>
>--
>
>With kind regards/Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
>
> your/Ihr SuSE S/390 Team
> Wolfgang Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>---
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>Maxfeldstr. 5Fax:   +49-911-7417755
>90409 Nuernberg,  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Germany   WWW:   http://S390.suse.com
>---
>

Re: SFS Question?

[Aria Bamdad]

Richard,

Some SFS commands are 'atomic requests'.  There is more about this in
the CMS Application Dev. Guide.  Your EXEC (pipes) creates a default work unit
that stays active during the execution of the exec.  In order to call
the SFS commands you have, you must first close that work unit, then
call the command.

Below is a sample Rexx procedure you can call to close the default work unit.
Then issue the command.

Hope this helps.
Aria.

RelWorkUnit: Procedure
   CSLRC = 0
   CSLRESC = 0
   WU = 0
   CALL CSL 'DMSRETWU CSLRC CSLRESC WU'
   If (CSLRC ^= 0) | (CSLRESC ^= 0) then do
  Say 'Error calling DMSRELWU, RC='CSLRC 'ReasonCode='CSLRESC
  Say 'Error releasing default workunit.'
   End
Return







On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:25:00 -0700 Schuh, Richard said:
>I have a service machine that is an administrator for one of our file =
>pools. I am trying to get it to clean up the file pool when a userid is =
>deleted from the system. My method is to first, enroll the userid for 0 =
>blocks, then issue a delete user command. I can log on to this machine =
>and enter the commands from the CMS command line and everything works as =
>expected. When I try to do it from the driver EXEC for the machine, I am =
>greeted with:=20
>
>enroll user JDOE sfsa (blocks 0  =
>  =20
>DMSJEN1157E Work unit already active when atomic request is issued for =
>work unit 1
>
>The delete user fails the same way (different message number, same =
>information).=20
>
>How can I determine what is causing the work unit to be active when I =
>try this? Alternatively, how can I insure that no work unit will be =
>active?=20
>
>Regards,
>Richard Schuh
>

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

[Aria Bamdad]

Roland,

Without knowing more about CHPID numbers and addresses, we can't provide
you with an IOCP that will work on your system.  This is something
that has to be taylored to each machine.

Below, I have included two IOCP files.  One is a fragment of a MP2003
IOCP, the other is from an MP3000. The machine type doesn't matter much.

You can look at these and build an IOCP for your machine.  The OSA
cards in these two IOCPs are  for an ethernet card but you have an TR
card.

Hope this helps.
Aria

-
   ID   MSG1='MULTIPRISE 20003',SYSTEM=(2003,1)
   CHPIDPATH=((00)),TYPE=OSA
   CHPIDPATH=((08)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((09)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((0A)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((10)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((11)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((12)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((14)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((15)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((16)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((18)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((19)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((1A)),TYPE=BL
*
* MEMOREX 5450/1 TAPE DRIVE
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=510,PATH=18,SHARED=N,UNIT=3480,X
   UNITADD=((10,16)),PROTOCL=S
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(510,02),CUNUMBR=510,UNIT=3480
*
*  3174 CONTROL UNIT
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=000,PATH=14,SHARED=N,UNIT=3174,X
   UNITADD=((00,32)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(000,32),CUNUMBR=000,UNIT=3278
*
*IBM 3380-CJ2
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=B20,PATH=10,SHARED=N,UNIT=3880,X
   UNITADD=((20,16)),PROTOCL=S
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(B20,16),CUNUMBR=(B20),UNIT=3380
*
*OSA-2
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=3F0,PATH=00,UNIT=OSA
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(3F0,4),CUNUMBR=(3F0),UNIT=OSA,UNITADD=00
*IOCP END
-
-
   ID   MSG1='20040508',SYSTEM=(7060,1),   X
   TOK=('VM-TOKEN',F0F161F0F361F0F4F1F27AF0F57AF0F240404040X
   ,,'05/09/04','00:05:50','','')
   CHPIDPATH=(00),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(01),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(04),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(05),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(06),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(07),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(08),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(09),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0A),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0B),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0C),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0D),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0E),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0F),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(10),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(11),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(12),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(13),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(1E),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(1F),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(FC),TYPE=EIO
*
*  3174 CONTROL UNIT
*  CHPID 08
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=000,PATH=08,SHARED=N,UNIT=3174,X
   UNITADD=((00,32)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(000,32),CUNUMBR=000,UNIT=3278
*
*4245 PRINTER
*  CHPID 08
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=070,PATH=08,SHARED=N,UNIT=4245,X
   UNITADD=((70,08)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(077,1),CUNUMBR=070,UNIT=4245
*
*  3174 CONTROL UNIT
*  CHPID 11
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=400,PATH=11,SHARED=N,UNIT=3174,X
   UNITADD=((00,32)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(400,32),CUNUMBR=400,UNIT=3278
*
* MEMOREX 3281/8 TAPE DRIVE
*  CHPID 0B
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=500,PATH=0B,SHARED=Y,UNIT=3803,X
   UNITADD=((00,08)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(500,02),CUNUMBR=500,UNIT=3420
*
* MEMOREX 5450/1 TAPE DRIVE
*  CHPID 0B

Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2

[Aria Bamdad]

Yes,
I reported this problem over a month ago.  It also doesn't happen in
a way I can reproduce but it does happen.  I don't think there is a
fix for it today but I am sure they are working on it.

Aria.
On Wed, 3 May 2006 13:45:21 -0400 Horlick, Michael said:
>Aria,
>
>I have opened an issue. I don't see any hits with Service Link. What I
>have done so far with a PC emulated NON 3278 Model 2 device is: =20
>
>1) IPLed the CMS 190 minidisk from 2nd level at 1st level and everything
>works fine.
>2) Accessed the 1st level system through an SNA network and then did a
>DIAL to my 2nd level. This worked fine.
>
>For some strange reason only if I go through my TCP/IP stack first level
>and then do the DIAL into 2nd level that I have this problem. I have no
>problem dialing into a 2nd level zVM 3.1 system.=20
>
>I remember once doing, I think, a CP TRACE command to trace the I/O's to
>a device. Not sure on usage and how I could decipher the 3270 datastream
>but will investigate.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike=20
>=20
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
>Sent: May 3, 2006 1:08 PM
>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>Subject: Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2
>
>Mike,
>
>I this is a known problem for 5.2.  Please call the support center.
>
>Aria.
>On Tue, 2 May 2006 14:03:06 -0400 Horlick, Michael said:
>>I just tried with PCOMM as well and am getting the same symptoms.=3D20
>>
>>Using Extra I am creating a TN3270 session connecting to Port 2300 (I
>>use Port 23 for CA-TPX) through my first level VM TCP/IP stack. I have
>>no problems with first level. I have extended attributes, any model
>>(Model 2,3,4,5) configuration. Never a problem.
>>
>>After getting our first level logo I clear the screen and DIAL into my
>>zVM 5.2 system. Everything looks ok until I XEDIT a file. If I'm
>defined
>>as a model 4 I can browse any file no problem, I can FLIST ok, it just
>>seems to be XEDIT.=3D20
>>
>>Maybe it's time to open a call to IBM support center.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of Eric Schadow
>>Sent: May 2, 2006 1:27 PM
>>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2
>>
>>I dialed to z/VM 5.2 second level from z/vm 5.1 and xedit worked ok for
>>me on Extra 6.5 SP2.
>>
>>How are you attaching to the first level system?
>>
>>
>>
>>At 01:18 PM 5/2/2006, you wrote:
>>>Hello Eric,
>>>
>>>Thanks for your response. What's interesting is that it works fine for
>>>zVM 3.1 but not for zVM 5.2. What could be different to account for
>>>this? I went to the Attachmate site and could not find any hits for
>>this
>>>type of error.=3D3D20
>>>
>>>Mike =3D3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On
>>>Behalf Of Eric Schadow
>>>Sent: May 2, 2006 1:04 PM
>>>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>>>Subject: Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Extra has the same issues with VSE consoles.
>>>
>>>If you have a current support contract withe Attachmate  I would
>report
>>>the issue to them.
>>>
>>>
>>>eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Eric Schadow
>>>Mainframe Technical Support
>>>www.davisvision.com=3D3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>-
>>-
>>>The information contained in this communication is intended
>>>only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. It may
>>>contain information that is privileged or confidential, and
>>>may be protected by State and/or Federal Regulations. If
>>>the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
>>>you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
>>>distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of
>>>its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>>>this communication in error, please return it to the sender
>>>immediately and delete the original message and any copy
>>>of it from your computer system. If you have any questions
>>>concerning this message, please contact the sender.
>>>

Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2

[Aria Bamdad]

Mike,

I this is a known problem for 5.2.  Please call the support center.

Aria.
On Tue, 2 May 2006 14:03:06 -0400 Horlick, Michael said:
>I just tried with PCOMM as well and am getting the same symptoms.=20
>
>Using Extra I am creating a TN3270 session connecting to Port 2300 (I
>use Port 23 for CA-TPX) through my first level VM TCP/IP stack. I have
>no problems with first level. I have extended attributes, any model
>(Model 2,3,4,5) configuration. Never a problem.
>
>After getting our first level logo I clear the screen and DIAL into my
>zVM 5.2 system. Everything looks ok until I XEDIT a file. If I'm defined
>as a model 4 I can browse any file no problem, I can FLIST ok, it just
>seems to be XEDIT.=20
>
>Maybe it's time to open a call to IBM support center.
>
>Mike
>
>-Original Message-
>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Eric Schadow
>Sent: May 2, 2006 1:27 PM
>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>Subject: Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2
>
>I dialed to z/VM 5.2 second level from z/vm 5.1 and xedit worked ok for
>me on Extra 6.5 SP2.
>
>How are you attaching to the first level system?
>
>
>
>At 01:18 PM 5/2/2006, you wrote:
>>Hello Eric,
>>
>>Thanks for your response. What's interesting is that it works fine for
>>zVM 3.1 but not for zVM 5.2. What could be different to account for
>>this? I went to the Attachmate site and could not find any hits for
>this
>>type of error.=3D20
>>
>>Mike =3D20
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of Eric Schadow
>>Sent: May 2, 2006 1:04 PM
>>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Prog 754 on Graphic device 2nd level zVM 5.2
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>Extra has the same issues with VSE consoles.
>>
>>If you have a current support contract withe Attachmate  I would report
>>the issue to them.
>>
>>
>>eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Eric Schadow
>>Mainframe Technical Support
>>www.davisvision.com=3D20
>>
>>
>>
>>---
>-
>>The information contained in this communication is intended
>>only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. It may
>>contain information that is privileged or confidential, and
>>may be protected by State and/or Federal Regulations. If
>>the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
>>you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
>>distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of
>>its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>>this communication in error, please return it to the sender
>>immediately and delete the original message and any copy
>>of it from your computer system. If you have any questions
>>concerning this message, please contact the sender.
>>---
>-
>
>Eric Schadow
>Mainframe Technical Support
>www.davisvision.com=20
>
>
>
>
>The information contained in this communication is intended
>only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. It may
>contain information that is privileged or confidential, and
>may be protected by State and/or Federal Regulations. If
>the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
>you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
>distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of
>its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>this communication in error, please return it to the sender
>immediately and delete the original message and any copy
>of it from your computer system. If you have any questions
>concerning this message, please contact the sender.
>

Re: OT

[Aria Bamdad]

In Eudora, you can tell the client to show or not show specific mail headers.
Please go to the Eudora support web site  www.eudora.com and click on
support.  In the search field, type: hide headers

Look at the following:

http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2186hq.html
and
http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1868hq.html

Aria



On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:04:45 -0400 Jim Bohnsack said:
>I am using Eudora.  I don't know what's running on the mail servers, but
>that is a possibility.  There is some kind of anti-spam filtering going on
>such that if a piece of mail is judged to be "almost certainly" spam and I
>don't have any idea regarding the criterion.  If it "may" be spam but
>doesn't trigger the filter, you are shown the ratings.  I think that all of
>the IBMVM shows some ratings.  Perhaps "IBMVM" is more likely to indicate
>spam than "VMESA-L".  I'm still seeing some stuff that I don't need in the
>headings that I didn't see on VMESA-L and I don't really need.  What I'm
>referring to are these lines:
>
>List-Help: ,
>
>List-Unsubscribe: 
>List-Subscribe: 
>List-Owner: 
>List-Archive: 
>
>It's good information, but is not needed for every posting.  I did change
>my subscription heading to SHORT but maybe it takes a certain time to be in
>effect.
>Jim
>
>At 08:41 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote:
>
>>There are lots of headers in an RFC822 note.  It's up to the client to =
>>decide what headers it's going to display.
>>
>>It's possible (though arguably illegitimate) that your mail server might =
>>be messing with the format.
>>
>>What client are you using?  What mail server?
>>
>>...phsiii
>
>Jim Bohnsack
>Cornell Univ.
>(607) 255-1760