Z800 for SALE

[Duane Weaver]

Z800model 0A1.   FOR SALE

8g memory

2 two port FICON cards
2 -24 port Escon cards

w/HMC and software


If interested, contact Bruce Boda at 614-247-6016 or bod...@osu.edu

ESCON Director ---cheap

[Duane Weaver]

Anyone interested in a ESCON director?

CHEAP.

Contac Bruce Boda at bod...@osu.edu or 614-247-6106

lack of TOD key

[Duane Weaver]

I need to reset the time on a VM system, however the keyboard for the 
HMC does NOT have a TOD set key.


Is there another way to accomplish this?

Re: How long is YOUR signature/disclaimer?

[Duane Weaver]

This is OFF TOPIC. GET with IT!



At 03:05 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Or just copy & paste back and forth between the web page interface and any
software that does spell checking.  I do that for selected replies I make,
sometimes just the word I think I might have misspelled.

Brian Nielsen



On Wed, 13 May 2009 06:45:11 +0200, Kris Buelens 
wrote:

>When using Mozilla Seamonkey, you can turn on spell checking for any
>edit area in the browser.
>
>2009/5/13 Alan Ackerman 
>>
>> There is a way around all this -- I am using it now. I do not use email
to
>> post to this list, I sign on to a web page. My signature is two lines.
It
>> is plain text because the LISTSERV software that provides this web pages
>> works that way.
>>
>> The link I use is to read and write here is
>> .
>>
>> There is one limitation -- my PC does not spellcheck my posts. My Mac at
>> home spellchecks eveythign, so I prefer to use the Mac.

Re: dial to 2nd level vm?

[Duane Weaver]

We did a ENABLE ALL on the 2nd level and it did not help.  We have 
not checked the RDEV's for addtional consoles that Deniis suggested.


Duane


At 04:10 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote:

> However, we are not able to DIAL to it.  I put in some SPECIAL
> statements in definition within USER DIRECT which were of no
> help.  I thinking there might be something on 2nd level VM system
> that needs to be changed or turned on.  Suggestions?



Did you do a  CP ENABLE  on the 2nd level system to make
those devices active?

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dial to 2nd level vm?

[Duane Weaver]

IF you recall, I asked about running a 2nd level VM recently.The 
2nd level VM came up with no problem.


The 2nd level VM is a 5.3 system, which uses a VSWITCH.   Someone 
responded that the 1st level VM 5.2 system did not need to run a 
switch. However the VSWITCH in the 2nd level did require additional 
OSA Ports since the switch is defined to a rdev of a port address. I 
was not expecting that.


However, we are not able to DIAL to it.  I put in some SPECIAL 
statements in definition within USER DIRECT which were of no help.  I 
thinking there might be something on 2nd level VM system that needs 
to be changed or turned on.  Suggestions?


Thanks,
Duane

VM guest system using a VSWITCH

[Duane Weaver]

I am setting up a guest VM system that will be using VSWITCH.   Does 
this require the first level host VM system to be running a vswitch?

Re: VM size for a 2nd level VM

[Duane Weaver]

Well here is the scoop. We acting as a DR site for another 
university. The other university wants to bring in their zVM 5.3 and 
run it under our zVM 5.2 system.

Our z800 is running in basic mode with 1 lpar, running the zVM 5.2.

At this point, we have no idea how few Linux servers they are 
bringing and their function.








At 11:33 AM 8/28/2008, you wrote:

Are you saying you want to run a second level production z/VM? Why?

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Duane Weaver
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:52 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: VM size for a 2nd level VM


Are there any guidelines for assigning virtual machine size to a 2nd
level VM system that will run  a few Linux guests?

I am running a standard zVM 5.2 system with the usual service
machines. It is also running a ZOS guest with 500m virtual machine
size and another ZOS guest with 1024m machine size.

The cpu is a z800 running 1 lpar of zVM.

VM size for a 2nd level VM

[Duane Weaver]

Are there any guidelines for assigning virtual machine size to a 2nd 
level VM system that will run  a few Linux guests?


I am running a standard zVM 5.2 system with the usual service 
machines. It is also running a ZOS guest with 500m virtual machine 
size and another ZOS guest with 1024m machine size.


The cpu is a z800 running 1 lpar of zVM.

Enough!!!!! Re: Seeking (former) Adventurers

[Duane Weaver]

Enough of this topic.

Re: Impromptu XEDIT Survey

[Duane Weaver]

At 01:56 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote:

I have the unsubstantiated general impression that people from 
"blue" states seemed to want it on the right, and people from "red" 
states seem to want it on the left.  If that is correct, the 
universe shall come to an end soon.  Where's the restaurant, and my blanket?

What about the independents? 

Change time/date for a VM guest?

[Duane Weaver]

Is there a way to change the date and time for a VM guest to make the 
guest think it is a different day?

Re: CA and B&B old versions

[Duane Weaver]

Please dont expect help from CA. Your versions of CA90, CA-11, VIEW, 
DELIVER, OPSMVS II and GSS are unsupported.   Both VIEW and DELIVER 
were dropped from support at the end of Feb 07.   OPSMVS II version 
4.4 has been out of support for some time.


I would like to ask or at least suggest this. When converting to the 
z9,  convert to current software.  When we went to a z800 4 yrs ago, 
we went straight from OS/390 to zOS 1.3.  By the time we went live 
with zOS 1.3, we also had zVM 4.4 running in a separate 
partition.  Bring the machine in, and install the new operating 
system while still running the old hardware.




At 09:15 AM 7/17/2007, you wrote:

Hello friends!

We are moving from a 9672 with OS/390 2.7 to a z9 with OS/390 2.10 under

zVM 5.3. We have the following products from CA and B&B (BMC):

 JOBTRAC   CA3.5
 CA90  CA1.0
 CA-11 CA2.2
 VIEW  CA2.0
 TLMS  CA5.5
 DELIVER   CA1.7
 SPOOL CA2.0
 OPSMVS II CA4.4
 GSS   CA2.7.2
 EASYTRIEVE PLUS   CA6.3
 BOOLE/CICSB&B   5.5.01
 BOOLE/DB2 B&B   7.1.0
 BOOLE/DASDB&B   2.4.1

Does anybody know where can I find compliance information of these
products to the new environment?

Thanks

Antonio

Re: set run on

[Duane Weaver]

Thanks guys. I am not sure what caused AUTOREAD to be set on. I even 
logged Operator off and back on to make sure there was something 
setting autoread on.


Now that I know, I will keep watch to see what happens.
duane


At 09:09 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote:
I see that all of the time on OPERATOR ids.  Enter SET AUTOREAD OFF 
in addition to SET RUN ON.

Why??  Who knows.
Jim

Duane Weaver wrote:
The Operator on my system has SET RUN ON.  Yet it still shows a VM 
READ all the time.


Why?





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set run on

[Duane Weaver]

The Operator on my system has SET RUN ON.  Yet it still shows a VM 
READ all the time.


Why?

anonymous ftp?

[Duane Weaver]

Is TCPIP on zVM set up by default for anonymous ftp?   How do i check 
to make sure this is turned off on my system?

Enough ENough PLEASE! Re: OT: Superbowl ad

[Duane Weaver]

Back to the topic of the list please!

Re: ISPF and ISPF/PDF

[Duane Weaver]

Who knows. The list is not very active.   I am sure there are a few 
vm sites on the list.


duane

At 03:06 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Duane,

  Thanks.  Is it pretty much a z/OS ISPF list or do they "speak VM"?

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Re: ISPF and ISPF/PDF

[Duane Weaver]

At 02:53 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:

>  We still have it.
>
> Are you on the list?


Dennis,

  No, I wasn't aware of a list for ISPF/PDF.  Can you please
  send me the particulars?   Thanks.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Re: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

[Duane Weaver]

Larry,


The devices should be added to the Offline_at_IPL statement in the 
SYSTEM CONFIG file for the VM system, located on MAINT's CF1 disk.






At 09:42 AM 12/20/2006, you wrote:

From mvs (master console) you'd cf(config) the chipid online(on),then
vary the path and the devices online. What I don't know is what you'd do
to have it offline to VM so those devices wouldn't rec an interrupt from
VM.

Mace

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Behalf Of Shimon Lebowitz
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:02 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

This looks like an MVS question, but it's really not -
I do all the IOCP preparation from VM, for both the
VM and the MVS boxes, and have to
explain to the MVS people why it's not necessary to
do it in MVS for that box.

In my IOCP I have CVC channels (ESCON Converter
to parallel [bus/tag] devices) defined with
 PART=(MVSPROD,REC)
so that they will be reconfigurable.

In the IOCP listing, these channels show up with
MVSPROD as the Accesslist, and all other LPARs
as 'C' - the Candidate list.

In order to move the channel from MVSPROD to
a different LPAR, we used the 'Reconfigure' item
in the HMC, but our MVS consultant says we should
have been able to just vary the path online in the other
MVS. He suggested that I change the PART=
to read like this:
 PART=((MVSPROD),(MVSTEST,SYSTST),REC)

I tried compiling an IOCP like that, and it looked to
me like all I achieved was to *decrease* my candidate
list from *all* LPARs, to only the named ones.

Does anyone here have experience with moving
reconfigurable paths from within an O/S, without
going to the HMC? What needs to be done to
enable that function?

It occurs to me that perhaps I just need to
change the IODF of the other MVS to know
about this channel, even though it finds it offline.
Would that do the trick? If so, what would be
the solution for VM LPARs? (Hmm.. put the
offline channels in DMKRIO?? )

Thanks,
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Kill this thread PLEASE! Re: VM web site

[Duane Weaver]

Time to kill this thread please!

Re: Another long slow decline.

[Duane Weaver]

On top of that is back up power supply.  We are increasing our UPS 
and other back up power supplies over the next several years.   They 
wont look at what increasing the servers are doing to other requirements.


They simply see the cost of the mainframe is x.They never  see 
the cost of servers. As Steve pointed out, they likely dont even know 
the tco of servers. But that is not important. The mainframe is too 
expensive in their mind.   The mainframe is too passe.


duane



At 02:25 PM 11/6/2006, you wrote:

On Monday, 11/06/2006 at 01:43 EST, Duane Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The first issue is the philosophical issue that it can be done
> cheaper on client/server.  Management refuses to look at the total
> cost of operation (TCO) of the client/server setup.

Keep an eye on the horizon for the great equalizer:  Power.  When the
electric company says "No more power is available to this building" and
you have to build/buy a new building to house the ever-growing server
farm, the price tag may generate some second thoughts.  It might be
educational to discover how close you are to the limits of your data
centers.  Some folks don't pay attention to electricity until too late.

Not only does a discrete server consume power,  it also gives off heat.
The more racks you put in, the more cooling you need.  And let's not
forget the bigger UPS and generators, too.

Of course, this is no way reduces the *desire* of some people to get off
the mainframe.  Just their ability.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: Another long slow decline.

[Duane Weaver]

Steve,

Your email is very interesting. Here, there are two issues that are 
determining the future of mainframe and client/server Open systems 
environment (ie UNIX).
The first issue is the philosophical issue that it can be done 
cheaper on client/server.  Management refuses to look at the total 
cost of operation (TCO) of the client/server setup.  I am simply told 
to get with it, this is the way of the future. Yet they see the big 
cost of the mainframe.  They never compare apples for apples.  It was 
recently announced that a HP Superdome was installed here.   In 
a  nut shell, a mainframe version of client/server, but we wont call 
it that.


For what we have spent in client/server hardware over the past 10yrs 
to for People Soft, we could have bought several mainframes from IBM.
It recently came to light that we have not had good backups of all of 
the client/server systems.One manager started to panic and a 
mainframe solution came to light . Work began on implementing 
it.   Then it was quickly halted as it wasa mainframe 
solution.We would shudder to think of having shoddy backups of 
the mainframe.  Yet it is ok for other systems?



The second issue here is the funding model. The mainframe has always 
been a cost recovery model.   We charge our mainframe users for CPU 
and disk space based on what it is costing us. Yet the systems 
supporting People Soft, are centrally funded.   More or less a black 
hole as they pretty much get what they want.   As more 
departments use less of the mainframe, we have to cut more and more 
of the mainframe budget.There appears to be no constraints on the 
open systems side.


I wont even touch the topic of money spent on consultants here for 
People Soft.   We were even mentioned in Information Week 10yrs ago 
about our investment in consultants for People Soft and it continues.


Fortunately the mainframe will be here long for me to get my 30yrs in.
Duane
(As with Colin, these comments are my own.)

ordering 5.2

[Duane Weaver]

I am in the process of ordering zVM 5.2 through ShopzSeries.

There are options for EREP, Cd-ROM set and other products.  Doesn't 
EREP come with VM?   Also the documentation set on CD-Rom?


Duane

Re: zVM 5.2 and z9

[Duane Weaver]

OK. I am just now placing the order for zVM 5.2, so I will get the latest
RSU.
duane
At 09:37 AM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
VM 5.2 will run on
the z9.  I would highly recommend that you put the latest RSU
tape(s) on if the VM 5.2 
version is not current on maint.  The problem with
SPXTAPE when 5.2 was first shipped 
will eventually get you if you don't have the most current
maint on.  It got us and a few others on this list. 
Other then that, it's been running great. 
Fixes are generally carried forward(incorporated) from
release to release unless there are major changes in 
the newest version. 
Steve G. 

Duane Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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10/20/2006 07:18 AM 
Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System 
    
   
To:   
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cc:     
   
Subject:    zVM 5.2 and z9


I am presently running zVM
5.1.   We have just placed an order for a 
z9.   I understand that zVM 5.1 needs some fixes to run on a
z9.
Can anyone tell me if those fixes are built into zVM 5.2.   I
am 
thinking that since i need to go to 5.2 anyway, I may as well
upgrade.
Duane

zVM 5.2 and z9

[Duane Weaver]

I am presently running zVM 5.1.   We have just placed an order for a 
z9.   I understand that zVM 5.1 needs some fixes to run on a z9.


Can anyone tell me if those fixes are built into zVM 5.2.   I am 
thinking that since i need to go to 5.2 anyway, I may as well upgrade.


Duane

look at ZOS dasd via VM?

[Duane Weaver]

I have a zOS volume meant for a zOS guest I need to examine and I 
cannot put over on our zOS system due to duplicate volsers.


IS there anyway in VM to look at the list of files on a zOS volume?

duane

support mod-27

[Duane Weaver]

Does zVM 5.1 support or recognize a mod-27?

Re: DFDSS

[Duane Weaver]

When we were running some Linux guests, we used FDR UPSTREAM to
dump the linux guests.    

At 04:17 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote:
See
recent Linux390 list archives for all the reasons why this is a bad idea.
Short version: if you can afford to shut down the VM system completely,
you can use methods outside VM and/or Linux to do reliable dumps of VM
volumes. If you dump an active system (particularly one hosting Linux
systems), you are likely to get garbage. 
 
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates


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mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:00 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DFDSS
 

Anybody backing up VM volumes using this on z/OS? 


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- z/VM and z/Linux 
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Re: DFDSS

[Duane Weaver]

We use FDR on zOS to backup VM volumes.

At 03:45 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote:
Anybody backing up
VM volumes using this on z/OS?  

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Re: Newbie on SMTP

[Duane Weaver]

Why on earth would someone even do email on VM these days.   


At 03:44 PM 9/1/2006, you wrote:

MAILBOOK is a comercial product ($$$)

www.mailbook

software.com


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[
mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Horlick, Michael

Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:42 PM

To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Subject: Re: Newbie on SMTP

David,


 

I just picked up MAILIT and am looking
at it now. Where would I find MAILBOOK.? I don't see it on the VM
Downloads page. 


 

Let me ask. Is it possible to imbed
lines within a CMS file (such as the Subject or Reply-To lines) and just
use the standard SENDFILE command to send that file to the outside world?
What exactly does MAILIT and MAILBOOK do to have these attributes? 


 

Mike    


 



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[
mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes

Sent: September 1, 2006 3:23 PM

To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Subject: Re: Newbie on SMTP


 

NOTE has crude support for what you
want. If you are serious about mail on CMS, get Richard Schafer's
MAILBOOK. 


 

David Boyes


Sine Nomine Associates



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[
mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Horlick,
Michael

Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:31 PM

To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Subject: Newbie on SMTP


 

Greetings,


 

Somehow I got lucky and set up SMTP on my zVM 3.1 system
that actually works J 


 

I created a NAMES file with a PC e-mail recipient and
have used SENDFILE to send some CMS files to him. 


 

My questions are: How to send with a subject line, how
to change "from" address and any other options I can
potentially use. Is this documented somewhere? 


 

Thanks,


 

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Re: Vswitch Question from newbie

[Duane Weaver]

At 01:44 PM 8/29/2006, you wrote:

On Tuesday, 08/29/2006 at 01:21 AST, Mary Elwood
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


As a newbie, I hope you'll take the opportunity to attend the System z9
and zSeries Expo in October in Orlando.  Go to
http://www.vm.ibm.com/events and click on the link for the Expo.  We're
providing a lot of education on the VSWITCH and Guest LANs!

Mary,

IF you cant make it to the Z Expo, please consider the next SHARE 
which will be in Tampa the week of Feb 11.  Plenty of good sessions 
there including a few by Alan himself.


Duane 

Re: Any resale value for an MP2003, 3174, 7171

[Duane Weaver]

Try QSGI at

David Rubin 
Senior Account Executive
QSGI 
Telephone: 651-365-0202 
Toll-free: 866-303-9672 
Fax: 651-365-0302 
Cell: 612-703-0462 

www.QSGI.com 

At 11:51 AM 7/17/2006, you wrote:
David Boyes wrote:
The 7171 probably still has some
value for parts (particularly line
cards). AFAIK, the others are pretty much crusher-fodder. 
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates

  Thanks David.  Any idea where we could find a
vendor for the  7171 ?

Re: Can I verify zVM is running on an IFL?

[Duane Weaver]

I dont feel the question was answered properly.   The user wanted to 
know if running in an IFL could be determined say from REXX.  Is 
there some flag or system variable that might indicate the lpar is an 
IFL or not?



What if a site does not have a ZOS guest to ipl.

I do know if you attempt to bring up ZOS native in a IFL, the lpar will croak.

duane


At 12:33 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

I don't think that will tell you if it's running on an IFL.  I know of a

site where z/OS was accidentally IPL'd in an IFL LPAR (and brought back

down quickly as soon as the error was discovered).

Brian Nielsen

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:36:31 -0500, Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

>Yes there is, James. Create a new guest virtual machine, and attempt to
>IPL z/OS in it. If z/OS comes up, then your z/VM system is running on
>standard processors, if not, then it's on IFL ones.;-)
>
>DJ
>
>Sterling James wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Is there a way to detect the processor type zVM is running on IFL vs
>> General, with REXX?
>> TIA.

Re: help to get removed from list

[Duane Weaver]

Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with the text

UNSUBSCRIBE IBMVM

At 10:08 AM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
How do I remove
myself from this list?
 
Bill Fairchild

[no subject]

[Duane Weaver]

Folks
Send your  SET command to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

not to the list at IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU





At 02:05 PM 3/17/2006, you wrote:

"SET  IBMVM
DIGEST"