Re: One last question, before aiming at my foot...
Title: One last question, before aiming at my foot... Actually, your math's just a hair flawed (not your fault); we're on a mod-27. -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT)Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:25 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: One last question, before aiming at my foot... If my math’s correct, If your 520RES is a mod9 I think XLINK FORMAT records will occupy at least 20 tracks to map the 10017 cyls. 15 tracks per cyl means the map is on cyls 0 thru 1. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nix, Robert P.Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:56 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: One last question, before aiming at my foot... What is the layout of Cylinder zero on the 520RES pack? What tracks contain SAL, and are there other tracks reserved there? Are there any unforeseen issues with having the 520RES appear as an XLINK shared volume? XLINK FORMAT defaults to track 2 in cyl 0, which would probably work for every other drive, but I'm unsure about the fit for 520RES. Any hints, opinions, or outright reasons for not protecting links on 520RES? (We do share a single 520RES between two systems now, so link protection is something we'd like to implement for it….) -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: support mod-27
We're completely mod-27 now, and moved to these before implementing zVM 5.2, so yes, 5.1 does support them. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duane Weaver Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: support mod-27 Does zVM 5.1 support or recognize a mod-27?
Re: Odd CSE problem...
That was it. Thanks John... -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Franciscovich Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Odd CSE problem... It could be the userid that you issued Q NAMES from. The "AT" default for Q NAMES is different depending on which userid the command is issued from. If the userid is either of the CSE exclusion lists, the default is "AT *", otherwise it is "AT ALL". The system operator and CVM are automatically included in the CSE exclusion lists. John Franciscovich z/VM Development
One last question, before aiming at my foot...
Title: One last question, before aiming at my foot... What is the layout of Cylinder zero on the 520RES pack? What tracks contain SAL, and are there other tracks reserved there? Are there any unforeseen issues with having the 520RES appear as an XLINK shared volume? XLINK FORMAT defaults to track 2 in cyl 0, which would probably work for every other drive, but I'm unsure about the fit for 520RES. Any hints, opinions, or outright reasons for not protecting links on 520RES? (We do share a single 520RES between two systems now, so link protection is something we'd like to implement for it….) -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Odd CSE problem...
Title: Odd CSE problem... Having gotten most of my real systems up and running, I wanted to go back and experiment on the CSE xlink stuff. I can't randomly IPL my live systems, so I created a new set of CP Owned packs and created two virtual machines to use them, copying the running system to these new packs. (Spool failed miserably, but I've gotten past that; Thanks everyone for the conversions about DCSSBKUP recently…) I have everything running the way it is on the current systems, except one odd thing: I can do INDICATE LOAD AT system, and it will talk back and forth between the systems and get me the information I want. But when I do a Q NAMES, I expect to see all the users logged in on both systems. I do see this on the live systems, but my test systems show only the users logged into the local system. Q NAMES AT ALL works, but on the live systems this seems to be the default. Why is it not the default on my second-level systems? -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: So close you can almost taste it... (Yuck!)
Never mind; When working with CTCAs, it pays to verify which tab is inserted in what slot, before spending several days trying all sorts of options for getting them to talk to one another... CSE is implemented and working. Thanks for everyone's help and attentiveness. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message----- From: Nix, Robert P. Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:05 AM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: So close you can almost taste it... (Yuck!) There's some little incantation that I've missed, but I'm dogged if I know what it is at this point. I'm soo close to having a Share presentation... It just needs a happy ending. Is there anyone doing CSE that might have this last little magic that will tie everything together?
So close you can almost taste it... (Yuck!)
OK... RSCS is up and running on both machines, and connected to each other. Sending files works fine, so I can finish up Dirmaint and Dirmsat with no problem at this point. PVM is up and running on both systems, and the links are active. However, CSECOM on both systems are waiting on something... I have no idea what. And CSE spooling, logon protection, indicate and query names support is not working yet. There's some little incantation that I've missed, but I'm dogged if I know what it is at this point. I'm soo close to having a Share presentation... It just needs a happy ending. Is there anyone doing CSE that might have this last little magic that will tie everything together? Many thanks to everyone who has nudged me this way and that during this entire implementation. We were talking about it yesterday, and realized that in less than four weeks, we've completely replaces all our CPUs, we've completely replaced all our DASD, and we've upgraded from 5.1 to 5.2... It's small wonder I can't think straight at this point. I feel like Alice... Nothing is as it was, ... Or as it should be. :-) -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fran Hensler Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: A rose by any other name... Renaming the RSCS userid... Robert - Here's a quick and dirty way to get your RSCSXXX running without an IPL of GCS: I did this from my VM USER OPERATOR (I don't know what priviliges are required): cp set secuser gcs * HCPCFX6768I SECUSER of GCS initiated. Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:54:23 cp send gcs CONFIG AUTHUSER ADD RSCSXXX GCS : 'RSCSXXX' can now IPL as an authorized virtual machine. Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:54:48 GCS : Ready; o make this permanent add to your PROFILE GCS on the GCS machine: 'CONFIG AUTHUSER ADD RSCSXXX' /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 43 years [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.724.738.2153 "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock" On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:47:37 -0500 Nix, Robert P. said: >This is the first time we've brought up RSCS on our systems, and I got >it running on one and waiting for the NJE connection from the other box. > >On the other box, I need to have it run with a different userid (common >CP Directory), and it starts to come up there, but abends with: > >GCTABD232E Abend 0C2- occurred during abend ESTAE processing >GCTABD226E Application 'RSCS' failed - System abend B78- > >The B78 CMS description talks about using an invalid subpool for a >getmain. I couldn't find a GCS messages manual on the CDs. > >Both RSCS and GRIZRSCS have the same amount of memory. Both had the same >number of links and auths defined; I dropped a bunch of sample links >from the GRIZRSCS config. I also thought that, possibly, the config >filename needed to match the virtual machine name, so I copied RSCS >CONFIG to GRIZRSCS CONFIG, with the same results. > >Would anyone know what I need to do to get RSCS to run under a different >userid? > >-- > .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation > /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW >/( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 >^^-^^ - >"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but > in practice, theory and practice are different." > > >
Re: Multiple HOSTS LOCAL files to match multiple TCPIP files?
That also leaves the TCPIP DATA file, located on the TCPMAINT 592 minidisk. This file contains the userid of your TCPIP stack, which actually could be different on different machines, and the host name, which is, hopefully, different on different machines. Without correcting this file to match the machine you're on, the various tcpip tools, such as the FTP client, won't work. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Cluster Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Multiple HOSTS LOCAL files to match multiple TCPIP files? I'm trying to configure my TCP/IP virtual machines so that when they're restored to our DR environment they will work correctly without any changes. I have multiple TCPIP files, one for each CPU, because the selection of the filename to be used is based on the nodeid from the SYSTEM NETID file, with PROFILE TCPIP being used if there is no match. However, that leaves the HOSTS LOCAL file. I can't find a similar way to automate the selection of this file (as well as its two generated files). Perhaps a better question to ask is this: Do I really need to worry about the HOSTS LOCAL file? We only use VM TCP/IP for TN3270 and FTP, and both seem to work perfectly well even if the HOSTS LOCAL file is for the wrong IP stack. Our HOSTS LOCAL files contain only a single HOST and a single GATEWAY statement. When I restore my production system to my DR system, TN3270 and FTP work fine on the DR system even though the HOSTS LOCAL file contains entries for the production system. - Tom. Tom Cluster County of Sonoma Santa Rosa, CA (707) 565-3384 (Tuesdays and Wednesdays only)
One step further... RSCS NJE via FCTC
Once the second rscs starts, It's link immediately deactivates. The message I see is: DMTNCR916E Invalid NJE signon connection record received -- Link POLAR is being deactivated. On the other node's RSCS I see: DMTNET951I Sign-off record received -- Link GRIZZLY being deactivated. After which it cycles and restarts. I tried adding matching RLPASS, RNPASS, TLPASS, and TNPASS parms on the PARM records for the two links. Same results. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Barlow Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: A rose by any other name... Renaming the RSCS userid... The first obvious question is did you include GRIZRSCS in the GCS group on your second system? Rick Barlow Systems Engineering Consultant Nationwide Services Co., Enterprise Business Intelligence Services Mainframe, z/VM and zSeries Linux Support One Nationwide Plaza 3-20-13 Columbus OH 43215-2220 U.S.A Voice: (614) 249-5213Fax: (614) 677-0821 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The IBM z/VM Operating System wrote on 09/22/2006 10:47:37 AM: > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > This is the first time we've brought up RSCS on our systems, and I > got it running on one and waiting for the NJE connection from the other box. > On the other box, I need to have it run with a different userid > (common CP Directory), and it starts to come up there, but abends with: > GCTABD232E Abend 0C2- occurred during abend ESTAE processing > GCTABD226E Application 'RSCS' failed - System abend B78- > The B78 CMS description talks about using an invalid subpool for a > getmain. I couldn't find a GCS messages manual on the CDs. > Both RSCS and GRIZRSCS have the same amount of memory. Both had the > same number of links and auths defined; I dropped a bunch of sample > links from the GRIZRSCS config. I also thought that, possibly, the > config filename needed to match the virtual machine name, so I > copied RSCS CONFIG to GRIZRSCS CONFIG, with the same results. > Would anyone know what I need to do to get RSCS to run under a > different userid? > -- > .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation > /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW > /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 > ^^-^^ - > "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but > in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: A rose by any other name... Renaming the RSCS userid...
Thank you; It's been a long time since I used GCS for anything :-) -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: A rose by any other name... Renaming the RSCS userid... Did you train the GCS segment to know about RSCSXXX ? David
A rose by any other name... Renaming the RSCS userid...
Title: A rose by any other name... Renaming the RSCS userid... This is the first time we've brought up RSCS on our systems, and I got it running on one and waiting for the NJE connection from the other box. On the other box, I need to have it run with a different userid (common CP Directory), and it starts to come up there, but abends with: GCTABD232E Abend 0C2- occurred during abend ESTAE processing GCTABD226E Application 'RSCS' failed - System abend B78- The B78 CMS description talks about using an invalid subpool for a getmain. I couldn't find a GCS messages manual on the CDs. Both RSCS and GRIZRSCS have the same amount of memory. Both had the same number of links and auths defined; I dropped a bunch of sample links from the GRIZRSCS config. I also thought that, possibly, the config filename needed to match the virtual machine name, so I copied RSCS CONFIG to GRIZRSCS CONFIG, with the same results. Would anyone know what I need to do to get RSCS to run under a different userid? -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: Initially setting up CSE
Removing the xlink_include statements got the system up with the rest of the CSE entries intact. I tried the XLINK FORMAT command from MAINT for 123 520RES, and got the response "Operand missing or invalid." According to the help file, the device address and label are the only two parameters. Any hints there? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initially setting up CSE Remove the volumes from XLINK_INCLUDE in SYSTEM CONFIG. Do not forget to protect the CSE area by a dummy minidisk so that you don't place other minidisk on top of it. Kris, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Initially setting up CSE
My impression was that the CSE area was within Cyl 0 on the volume. Is this not correct? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initially setting up CSE Remove the volumes from XLINK_INCLUDE in SYSTEM CONFIG. Do not forget to protect the CSE area by a dummy minidisk so that you don't place other minidisk on top of it. Kris, IBM Belgium, VM customer support "Nix, Robert P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 2006-09-18 22:33 Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Initially setting up CSE I finally got all the pieces, and started working on a zVM v5.2 system with CSE. My problem is that, when I try to turn on CSE in the SYSTEM CONFIG, I get then get several of the following messages in the IPL: HCPLNM2880E MAINT 0190 is not linked, CSE LINK I/O ERROR, Code 02 The description of the error implies that XLINK FORMAT needs to be run on the device, but how do you do that initially, without the system running? I seem to be caught in a "chicken and egg" type loop?. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Initially setting up CSE
Title: Initially setting up CSE I finally got all the pieces, and started working on a zVM v5.2 system with CSE. My problem is that, when I try to turn on CSE in the SYSTEM CONFIG, I get then get several of the following messages in the IPL: HCPLNM2880E MAINT 0190 is not linked, CSE LINK I/O ERROR, Code 02 The description of the error implies that XLINK FORMAT needs to be run on the device, but how do you do that initially, without the system running? I seem to be caught in a "chicken and egg" type loop…. -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
What is an FXREC, and how can I stop it from filling my EREP?
Title: What is an FXREC, and how can I stop it from filling my EREP? After years of never seeing anything useful in EREP, I'm suddenly filling its disk in 10 minutes time with records listed as "FXREC" and CPEREPXA doesn't report any useful information (I may need to bring CPEREPXA up to date...) What is this record type, and why am I suddenly getting millions of them? What is it that needs to be addressed that we need to look at? -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Testing zVM 5.2 and Vswitch second level...
Title: Testing zVM 5.2 and Vswitch second level... I'm bringing up a zVM 5.2 system second level, and have gotten to the point that I want to configure Vswitch and TCPIP. I put a NICDEF into the virtual machine and granted it access at the first level, then brought it up and tried the IPWIZARD script, defining it as a QDIO interface, but it can't find any of the IP addresses I gave it. I then tried defining a Vswitch in the second level machine, and haven't had much luck there either. I thought before I went too much further, I'd see if anyone here had any suggestions. What would be the best, most likely working, method of connecting a second level zVM system to the outside world, in such a way as to emulate its ultimate environment as closely as possible? Also: Are DTCVSW1 and DTCVSW2 the Vswitch controllers? I haven't seen them mentioned in any of the documentation yet, but saw them come up on the first full IPL. (I almost said "boot"... I so fear that I'm becoming a Linux person...) -- .~. Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\ RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: Linux mainframe game machine....
Actually, originally, it was ADVENT, for Adventure. Advent was a FORTRAN program, and my first exposure was on a Digital DECsystem-1090. Zork followed Advent. (My age is beginning to show.) -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shimon Lebowitz Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux mainframe game machine ZORK? On 10 Jul 2006 at 11:56, Edward M. Martin wrote: > That was the one with the cave and the secret words (XYZZY and > PLUGH) >
Re: Finding DUPS in a CMS file
Fanout your input. Using the lookup stage previously given, you could get a list of the duplicate keys. Feed this list of keys into a second lookup input stream 2 as the keys to look for, and feed the second output stream of the fanout into this lookup as input. Output only the records that match the keys found there. The online help for lookup doesn't show the autoadd or keyonly options, and says that input stream 2 MUST be connected, which I don't see in any of the examples that have been shown. However, assuming that these options exist and are just undocumented, the above pattern should be able to give you a complete list of the non-unique records, in the order they existed in the original file. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin AllinsonSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:30 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: Finding DUPS in a CMS file That is fairly easy. PIPE the records through a UNIQUE stage into a hole. Label the UNIQUE stage and take the secondary output into a STEM (for instance). Then, if the stem has any entries you know there are duplicates (and have some idea what to look for). Regards Colin Allinson "Wakser, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: All: I appreciate the answers (and was relatively surprised at how easily this could be accomplished). HOWEVER, I need the capability of possibly merely issuing an error message, instead of "blindly" deleting one of the records, because the entire records are not duplicates, merely the first 20 bytes. And someone would need to look at the input data to see why the data is duplicated. For those that are curious and desire more details, I am putting together a method for our Help Desk to know who is on call at any given time. Considering the varied schedules that I and my co-workers have, this gets sort of complicated, and the Help Desk always seems to get it wrong! In general, one of us is on call for entire week, 24 hours a day. However, since I get up at 4:00 AM I would prefer that my co-workers are not called at that time, since I am up anyway! The identification of duplicates is to ensure that two people have not been assigned duty in the same time period! These would be "exceptions" (or overrides) to the default on-call person. For example, let's assume I am "on call" July 1 thru July 7. However, on July 3rd I have an appointment from 6:00 PM to 7:00 PM. I would set the "default" on-call record for the entire week with my name, and then have specific date/time records for the times that OTHER people would cover for me, which override the "default". I need to ensure that, except for the "default" record, no two people are assigned coverage for the same time period. Records consist of a date, a time (all times assume a thirty-minute interval), and the on-call person's name. Once I have sorted them by date and time, there should NOT be any duplicates. If there are, how can I identify them? I MIGHT possibly want to selectively delete one, but at this point in time I need to IDENTIFY that fact that there are dups and issue a message. I hope this explains things so that your solutions are more helpful! David Wakser InfoCrossing
Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information
Only slightly off topic, but long ago, just to see what would happen, we allocated an MVS dataset, and then mapped a CMS minidisk over the dataset's allocation, and everyone was still happy and running. As long as everyone agrees to what's been done, there shouldn't be any fussing. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: Moving directory, warmstart, and checkpoint areas off SYSRES
I take exception to the statement "you would need different names anyway". I have two LPARs on different CECs sharing the same 510RES volume. The first IPL of the second LPAR was a fairly scary moment, but so far it's worked well and without problem. Once you get into the mind-set, running multiple systems from the same sysres really isn't too long a reach. zOS does it routinely, and all the necessary features are in zVM as well. SYSTEM CONFIG can be conditioned using the system serial numbers and names assigned there. The common userid list needs to be changed, or the sysaffin feature in the CP directory needs to be used to isolate the common userid's data. Separate checkpoint, warmstart, and CP Directory areas have to be defined. Separate spool and page needs to be allocated. But all your systems can IPL the same sysres, if desired. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:58 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving directory, warmstart, and checkpoint areas off SYSRES On 6/5/06, Leland Lucius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless you're doing a full re-install with each release, I think you don't want to have system data on a volume named 510RES. In shops with more than one LPAR you would need different names anyway, so I would opt for a volser based on the system name rather than the release.
zVM Performance Toolkit newbie...
Title: zVM Performance Toolkit newbie... Maybe it's just me, but the manual for the zVM Performance Toolkit seems overly vague as to just where it is supposed to be running and how to set it up. Is it really intended to run on the system operator's userid? I get that impression, but it never really comes out and says that. Is there a disconnected machine that collects the monitor data, or do I actually have to have a physical terminal attached and dedicated to it 24/7? The manual comes just short of telling you how to actually set it up, teasing at times with small amounts of vague data, but never really telling you anything useful. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."
Re: I'll never understand
At least in 5.1 and above, wouldn't the proper response, after waiting a bit, be to do a "FORCE VMEABCD IMMED", rather than a full system IPL? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844Rochester, MN 55905 - "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I'll never understand Isn't this typically related to a hung I/O nowadays? On Friday 02 June 2006 2:01 pm, Huegel, Thomas wrote: > After 40 years of developement and millions of lines of code why this will > still cause a VM IPL. > > HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user VSEABCD
